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Conference 7.286::golf

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Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2129
Total number of notes:21499

1268.0. "overlap vs interlock grips" by CHRLIE::HUSTON () Fri Jun 07 1991 11:40

    
    What are the advantages of an overlap grip as opposed to an interlock
    grip?
    
    I use to use an overlap (small finger of right hand overlaps the left
    hand), several years ago I switched to an interlock grip (small finger
    of right hand is interlocked with index finger of left hand).
    
    I have noticed that most golfers (from pro on down to hackers) seem
    to use the overlap. There are a few notable exceptions, like
    Jack Nicklaus (and me :-) )
    
    The reason I ask is that this year I have developed a major league
    slice, working on my swing, the best I can do is control it into a 
    fade. This is the first year I have not had a nice draw. I never
    use to slice, fade, miss right etc. I used to hit nice draws and 
    occasionally a nice little duck hook. So I am beginning to think
    maybe I should switch back to the overlap grip, the one shot I hit
    with it, out of curiosity, went straight, but it sure did feel 
    strange.
    
    --Bob (who needs a confidence booster and a scapegoat)
    
    
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1268.1NEWPRT::JOHNSON_DOFri Jun 07 1991 16:4714
    The grip used is combination of factors.  The size of the fingers and
    the amount of right hand needed to keep the club on line.  I have been
    told that the overlap causes both hands to work together more since
    only8-9 of the fingers actually touch the club.
    
    The interlock creates 9+ fingers and then there is the 10 finger grip
    and the baseball grip(thumbs not down the shaft).  Surprisingly enough,
    there are a few on the tour with 10 finger grips.
    
    You may be slicing because you are squeezing to tight, and the overlap
    effectively loosens your grip pressure.  I am about ready to use the
    Wayne Gretzky grip and run up on the ball.
    
    SCD
1268.2Probably should wear skate instead of spikesCHRLIE::HUSTONFri Jun 07 1991 16:5818
    
    I read someplace (can't remember where) that the interlock was better
    for small, stubby fingers. The part about squeezing to tight is 
    probably part of the problem, I know I am gripping to tight, but I
    believe this is a result of poor play rather than a cause. I am
    not confident at all when standing on the tee, and I tend to 
    squeeze.
    
    Any other info of the advantages/disadvantages of each??
    
    > I am about ready to use the
    >Wayne Gretzky grip and run up on the ball.
    
    Maybe I should try this, I use to play hockey and had a decent slap
    shot :-)
    
    --Bob
    
1268.3some thoughtsCSC32::J_KLEINFri Jun 07 1991 22:5615
    
    I started out using the interlock grip and after several years I began
    to use the overlap. At first the overlap felt awkward but I soon felt
    that my hands worked more as one than they did with the interlock.
    
    I think the interlock gives you more hands/wrist flexibility that
    may produce better release thru the ball (some added distance), 
    but it also exagerates any timing problem and makes it more difficult 
    to be square at the ball. 
    
    If you've started to slice, possibly you're right hand is not playing
    an equal part in the swing (with your left hand), which is the tendency 
    with the interlock. I used to fade with the interlock, now I draw with 
    the overlap.
                            -Joe
1268.4NEWPRT::JOHNSON_DOMon Jun 10 1991 15:296
    Question?
    
    How do you draw with and overlap? Which hand do you hold the crayon
    in?What happens when the crayons get to short?
    
    SoCalDandy
1268.5TOLKIN::HOGANTue Jun 11 1991 15:4818
    
    	I really don't think it's your grip providing it is a standard grip
    with an interlock ( right hand or left not to strong ). I have just
    recently made a grip change and I really started to look at peoples
    grips pro and amature alike. I think you would be surprised to find how
    many pros use the intrlock. Nichalaus, Kite, I think Sluman and at
    least 3 other I just can't remember thier names. I would change the
    grip last. Relax over the ball, keep your head behind the ball. it's
    probably something very basic you stopped doing. Go back to the basics
    abd be sure your machanics are good first. Warning! Go back to square
    one and work on machanics, basic stuff. If you still can't hit the shot
    you want see a pro. I once got into this and tried to solve the problem
    myself and almost destroyed my swing. It's still not quite right but I
    know what I should be doing or what my problem is. I spent 3 weeks
    changing everything from my grip to my underware and he picked out the
    problem in five minutes. 
    
    Pete
1268.6interlocker says stay with the gripAKOCOA::BREENBill Breen Ako2-3 244-7984Tue Jun 11 1991 17:2220
    .3 and .5 coincide with my experience as an interlock user.  I think
    overlap grip became "taught" method from 70s on but as I recall the
    original grip was called the Vardon grip and interlocked - I also
    believe that Hogan had the interlock but may be wrong.
    
    I went from an Art Wall grip to the interlock and started to slice
    drives and only truly can manage not to slice the driver by something
    akin to what the pros are calling (sic) ? Swing checks (or something
    like that).  My check is to bring the club back straight vertical and
    not flat. 
    
    However I draw and often hook irons with the interlock - I tried to
    change (briefly) after viewing a tape which emphasized the overlap as
    being the entire heart of an approach to golf but couldn't get to
    square 1.
    
    By the way .4 (so Cal) - don't stop with the corny jokes, I enjoy them.
    
    Bill
    (also I am a lefty for what its worth)
1268.7Clarification...SQGUK::NOCKA close approximation to realityWed Jun 12 1991 08:295
    Vardon grip == overlapping 
    
    Hogan's book preaches the overlapping so I assume that's what he used.
    
    Paul
1268.8NEWPRT::JOHNSON_DOWed Jun 12 1991 16:297
    re:6
    
    Hey Bill, the you need to practice everything in the mirror.  Try the
    cross handed grip...or use right handed clubs and swing them upside
    down.. This game is just ripe with opportunity.  
    
    SCD
1268.9NEWPRT::JOHNSON_DOWed Jun 12 1991 16:314
    Re: grips and club throwing
    
    Maybe golf clubs should have a thong like a racquetball racquet has?? 
    What a country...what a game.
1268.10HandyESSB::SONEILLThu Aug 15 1991 13:355
    I believe Nicklaus popularised the interlock grip.  The general
    recommendation is to use interlock if you have small hands and overlap
    if you have big hands.  
    
    Shane
1268.11That's my name !BTOQA::SHANEThu Aug 15 1991 13:3810
    
    re: -1
    
    Caught me off gaurd for a minute there when I saw who wrote the
    last reply. :-)
    
    There aren't alot of us out there.
    
    The other Shane