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1217.1 | | ASABET::VARLEY | | Mon Apr 22 1991 17:35 | 4 |
| I use a Yonex ADX 200, and have never hit the Callaway. The Yonex is
great, but I hear great things about the Callaway.
--Jack
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1217.2 | just another sales gimmic...? | TRLIAN::GORDON | | Mon Apr 22 1991 19:06 | 10 |
| re: .1
common Jack, tell us all the truth, does the yonex REALLY give 40 yds
more on tee shots and if so WHY doesn't every pro and top am in the
world have one?
I tried one and wasn't really that impressed...but I've heard lots
of "stories" as to how far people are bustin the ball with them..
what is the real scoop???
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1217.3 | "Sure, I LIKE Persimmon, But..." | ASABET::VARLEY | | Wed Apr 24 1991 17:41 | 18 |
| It's longer and lighter, so you get more speed in a bigger arc to
boot. Nothing will give anyone 40 yards more, if the fairways are soft
as they should be, but this club IS longer and straighter. You gotta go
after it UGLY to hit it left (Which I did at a Pro-Am at Hampden
yesterday).
Pro's don't like it because:
1. They're long enough now.
2. You can't "work" the ball as well with it.
3. It's DOG ugly.
I know they could hit the Yonex further, though. I prefer persimmon,
but I'm gettin' old and fat and I don't want to give up the distance
(At least, until my Nicklaus 271's come back from re-finishing...).
Next stop - a "Test Drive" with "Big Bertha..."
--Jack
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1217.4 | Love that ADX !! | RAYBOK::COOPER | One-ton Tomato ! | Tue Apr 30 1991 20:27 | 7 |
| I also use the Yonex and have hit some incredibly long drives.
Mostly I hit it a lot straighter than any other driver I have used.
Usually I get about 250-260 with it but have hit the occaisional 300
plus screamer. I have heard though that once you wrap your hands
around BIG BERTHA you won't want to let'er go !!
Mad Hacker
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1217.5 | Any clones for Yonex/Bertha?? | POBOX::RAHEJA | | Tue Aug 20 1991 12:11 | 12 |
| I have gone from a very nice draw/straight drives to an ugly slice.
Have tried making all kinds of adjustments to my swing and am finding
that the only way I seem to cure it is to speed up on my downswing.
I am now at the point of looking for answers in equipment but don't
have a lot of money to spend. Does anyone know if there are clones
available of the Yonex or Big Bertha drivers?? If so, in which catalog
might they be found??
Thanks,
Dalip
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1217.6 | Calloway avail. | DPDMAI::VENEZIO | never drink SLICE while golfing | Tue Aug 20 1991 18:23 | 9 |
| I just built a clone to the Calloway woods. Identical to the real
thing. I'm playing with a Driver (Not Big Bertha) 3 and 5 also avail.
Can't remember the number.
I'll have to give you the name and address. They will only sell to
people in the business. No hobbiest's. Irons are also avail.
I've sold 2 sets in two weeks. They also have the Founder woods.
Ken
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1217.7 | new hi-tech driver=no slice??? | TRLIAN::GORDON | | Wed Aug 21 1991 12:09 | 3 |
| re: .5
answers to swing problems cannot be found in equipment...{;^)..
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1217.8 | Oh Yeah!!!! | POBOX::RAHEJA | | Wed Aug 21 1991 14:07 | 28 |
| re: .7
Yeah, but it might make me feel better and give me some hope for a
while.
On the swing thing, I went to the driving range and made all these
adjustments concurrently.....
1. Aim for the bottom left quadrant(as you are facing the target from
behind the ball)
2. Tried to stick my right elbow as close to the body as possible,
both during the backswing and the downswing.
3. Aim my feet to the right of the target.
4. Speed up my downswing.
5. Bring my right hand over a little stronger on my grip
It seemed to work in that I got rid of my slice(about 80-85%) of it.
My problem is, I don't know which one of my adjustments is doing the
trick.
Oh well, back to looking for a Bertha clone.........
Dalip
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1217.9 | Yonex ADX clone | NEURON::VIOLA | it ain't paradise, but it used to be | Wed Aug 21 1991 14:38 | 8 |
| Dalip,
You may want to try your local Service Merchandise store.
They carry a Yonex ADX200 clone called a 'Pinemeadow'. The shaft
is a Adilda boron/graphite, Gold Pride grips, graphite head.
Looks like an exact clone. If I recall, the driver sells for $79.95
-Marc
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1217.10 | | USCTR2::NAHEARN | | Wed Aug 21 1991 15:54 | 8 |
| re: .8,
May sound too simple, but one of the easiest cures for a slice is to
stand closer to the ball.
Hope this helps,
Nelly
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1217.11 | | EPAVAX::OBRIEN | Certifiable golfer | Thu Aug 22 1991 14:48 | 9 |
| RE: .6
>> -< Calloway avail. >-
Ken,
How come you haven't told us about this in the "other" conference?
There's on competition in there. :-)
KO
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1217.12 | | NEWPRT::JOHNSON_DO | | Fri Aug 23 1991 17:23 | 5 |
| re:9
Do you standing closer to the ball before or after you hit it?
SCD
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1217.13 | | USCTR2::NAHEARN | | Mon Aug 26 1991 18:30 | 6 |
| re: -1,
Huh?
Nelly
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1217.14 | Some Driver. | WELCLU::BWALKER | Come on you Hatters. | Tue Aug 27 1991 14:02 | 7 |
| Re. 12.
Well if you are standing closer to the ball after you've hit than at
adress then you have either gone sprinting after it or have not hit a
very good drive.
Barry
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1217.15 | Huh??Duh, I don't get it... | NEWPRT::JOHNSON_DO | | Tue Aug 27 1991 15:44 | 6 |
| Exactly, in fact my pro pointed out the major flaw in my game
recently...he said..."your problem is you are standing to close to the
ball after you hit it" He suggested I take a few weeks off, then give
the game up.
SCD
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1217.16 | Quotable | BUSY::PEASLEE | | Tue Aug 27 1991 16:02 | 5 |
| "He suggested I take a few weeks off, then give the game up"
From what I read recently your pro and Jimmy Demeret had the same
thought.
gp
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1217.17 | Read Business Week | ESSB::MCKNIGHT | I just wanna be a ... | Thu Sep 12 1991 11:58 | 4 |
| There's an article in Business Week Sept 16 about Calloway and his company
and also about big Bertha and How it compares to 'conventional' drivers.
Mike
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1217.18 | BIG BERTHA IS BIG WITH THE SENIORS | MR4DEC::DIAZ | Octavio, SME International | Fri Sep 20 1991 16:06 | 11 |
| I don't know if it was reading the BusinesWeek article and then spending
two days working at the Classic, but my impression is that anything from
40 to 60% of the pros there were using Calloway's "Big Bertha".
I wonder how is it on the regular tour.
I asked at Nashawtuc's Pro shop and the graphic shaft Big Bertha sells in
the mid $200's. Not that I will buy one now, but has anyone seen them at
a better price?
Tavo
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1217.19 | My search for a new driver.... | TEAM01::TURCOTTE | Oh King eh? very nice... | Tue Jun 20 1995 14:36 | 44 |
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My playing partner just purchased a Big Bertha Warbird, 9 degree loft
stiff graphite shaft. Price was about 225.00.
We went to the range together, as I have been contemplating the
purchase of a BB, after hitting a guys who had the steel shaft, and
my buddy always has to buy it first if I'm thinking about it. Thats
okay tho' he has that kinda money, and I get to test drive it for free.
I've been playing a BB knockoff, and have been striking it well, but
have not gotten the distance that I think my good contact has deserved.
This after trying several differnt Ball's. (my long drives are probably
about 235-240, and I average about 220-230).
So anyways we go to the range, and his old driver is a Taylor-Made
Midsize 10 degree, with a stiff shaft. After hitting the BB and the
TM, let me say that both are solid drivers, the 9 degree loft of the
BB posed no problem for me, and in 10 balls hit, 7 carried 230 and
went past the 250 sign, and a couple of poor swings still netted 210
yds. The BB is easy to fade/slice it seemed to me.
The TM I hit more of, probably 30 balls or so, of which between
15-20 carried and went as far as the BB. The TM is much easier to draw
and hook (I horribly hooked serveral drives) but on average played to
nice very small draw. The TM club face set up slightly closed to my
eye, which I found that I like, and the face doesn't seem to turn as
much at impact as the BB on mishits.
To make a short story long, tho I went expecting the BB to win me over
(and it is a fine driver) the TM was the one I was most impressed with.
It was easier to hit IMO, and gave me a more disireable ball flight,
went as far as the BB on solid and mishits, and as long as my tempo
was controlled it would'nt snap hook and rarely if ever sliced. The
slice being my biggest nemisis. I'm sure I could buy my friends TM
for cheap, its two or three yrs old, but I would really like one with
a 9 degree loft, does anyone know if they made a 9 degree midsize?
I don't believe that Taylor Made make this driver anymore, I've seen
it in the Danmark mail-order catalog for $99 (10.5 loft,graphite) and
my buddy paid $250 two years ago for it! Anyways any input on either
driver is welcome and I'll see if I can use the TM for a couple of
rounds before I make a decision.
Turk
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1217.20 | Good Deal @ $99 | SLICER::LNGDRV::rod | | Wed Jun 21 1995 11:50 | 15 |
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$99 for a TM Midsize graphite it really a good price. I recently
tried out a steel shaft 9.5 at my local club. I really liked it
after playing a Burner 9.5 graphite for a few years. The club
wanted $120 for a steel shaft, $210 for a graphite shaft. Both
higher than I thougth. I went to a local store in Minneapolis
( GolfSport ) and they had a rack of them at $79 for the steel
(can't remember the price on the graphite). They didn't have a
RH 9.5, so I asked the clerk. He said, "Sure, we have a bunch
in the back". Second best invesment I've made so far. Am now
able to hit one across the water, cutting off the dogleg on our
signature hole. BTW, the best investment was my complete set of
stiff Taylor Made ICW5 irons and Burner Metals for $400 (brand new).
It was a special deal from the manufacturer to 3M's company store.
At the time it was below wholesale. Should have bought two sets.
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1217.21 | More thoughts. | LJSRV2::OSTROM | Internet Business Grp. Prod Mgmt. | Tue Jun 27 1995 04:35 | 19 |
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It's sort of off topic (TM vs Big Bertha), but I'll chime in, too.
I bought the Taylor Made mid-size driver last year, 10.5deg, stiff
FTG+ shaft. This year I bought the 3 wood. Although I've also taken
a couple of lessons, these clubs have made a DRAMATIC change in my
play off the tees. I've always been pretty long, but quite wild.
Now I think I'm hitting it considerably longer, and MUCH straighter.
I haven't measured distances, but a solid driver on the 4th hole,
south course, at Stow last time out was at the base of the hill,
leaving a wedge, and on the 9th, I was hitting an easy 8 iron from
well past the last tree on the right.
Like the earlier author, I feel like I know I'm set up right when I
stand over the club -- when I tried the Bertha I didn't have the same
confidence. I wonder if there's something to the fact that the
Bertha is the most popular driver on the Senior PGA tour, and the
Taylor Made is more popular on the "regular" tour.
Andy Ostrom
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1217.22 | update TM Midsize driver.... | TEAM01::TURCOTTE | Oh King eh? very nice... | Tue Jun 27 1995 15:30 | 15 |
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Well I did some looking around for a TM Midsize 9 degree loft. Yes
they make them, 8 degree lofts also. The "midsize" driver is dis-
continued, basically replaced by the Burner Bubble drives and woods.
Some golf stores are having specials on the TM Midsize. I found the
steel shafted drivers @ $99, and the Graphite @ $149. As I said in an
earlier note, I can get the 10.5 degree loft graphite shaft from the
danmark catalog for $99, so thats still the best deal. I'm hoping
someone has seen a graphite shafted TM (in various lofts) for about
that price ($99). I'm gonna give Nevada Bobs a call and see what they
charge, anyone reccomend or supply 800 numbers for any other mail
orders houses I can check,
Thanks Turk
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1217.23 | Twist | STOWOA::ODIAZ | Octavio, MCS/SPS | Tue Jun 27 1995 20:04 | 11 |
| Re: <<< Note 1217.22 by TEAM01::TURCOTTE "Oh King eh? very nice..." >>>
Turk,
Keep in mind that TM came with an "updated" Midsize, the one with the
Twistflex Plus shaft, same head. When this one came out the old one
was on sale. I bought my midsize 3 wood and Raylor 21 degrees with
the old shaft (no plus) at about $160 in 1993.
Tavo
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1217.24 | Mail order woes.... | TEAM01::TURCOTTE | Oh King eh? very nice... | Wed Jun 28 1995 14:45 | 13 |
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Tavo,
Is that the FTS-? shaft, thats what all the graphites I've
looked at seem to have, I called Danmark and of course they
have sold out of the TM graphites at $99. Nevada Bobs no longer
does mail order, and there are no stores close to me. Edwin
Watts has the club for $119 in various lofts, and the 1-800
operator doesn't have a listing for Las Vegas Golf, anyone have
any other mail order suggestions.??
Thanks
Turk
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1217.25 | re: .22 - other mailorders houses | TRLIAN::GORDON | | Thu Jun 29 1995 12:41 | 63 |
1217.26 | FTS and FTS+ | STOWOA::ODIAZ | Octavio, MCS/SPS | Thu Jun 29 1995 14:04 | 7 |
| Re: <<< Note 1217.24 by TEAM01::TURCOTTE "Oh King eh? very nice..." >>>
Yes, the original shaft is the FTS, the newer one is FTS+. The
original ones is two toned (black/silver). I believe the new one is
one tone only.
Tavo
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1217.27 | | TEAM01::TURCOTTE | Oh King eh? very nice... | Thu Jun 29 1995 15:56 | 20 |
| <<< Note 1217.25 by TRLIAN::GORDON >>>
-< re: .22 - other mailorders houses >-
Thanks for the listing in .25, it was very helpful, I called probably
a dozen randomly selected numbers, many were "knockoff" suppliers, who
were eager to send me a catalog, which I accepted. Those that carried
the TM Midsize had prices ranging from $119 (Edwin Watts) to $199
(The Golf Place) for the same driver!!
Anyway I'm gonna call a few more (I used my buddies TM again last
night in our league, and hit it well, so I'm pretty much sold on the
thing) and see what the best price I can get is, try to get my local
store to match it, and if not order it.
Tavo, thanks for the shaft info, my buddies is the two-tone FTS (no +)
and a 10.5 degree loft, I'd perfer an 8.5 or 9 degree loft if I can
get a good price, and the FTS+ shaft would be bonus. Thanks again
Turk
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