Conference 7.286::golf

    the white shark all the way.
    these things are almost always two days so expect
    nine on sat. and nine on sun.
    did you see this past weekend.  they played two man
    scramble on sunday.  one of the teams was -12 on sunday.
    
    black nicklaus
    

    
    I think Greg will go home with the most money... It is his type
    of event...
    
    Ya, the RMCC (Ronald McDonald etc...) the tourney that Grag hosts
    was quite interesting... With Couples and Floyd being the winning
    team by 5 shots... The event donates something in the neighborhood
    of $1,000,000 to Ronald McDonald House...!
    
    Regards
    Gene

    I selected my order of finish this way:
    
    Norman
    Faldo
    Strange
    Jack
    
    Jack may get shut out. I watched alittle of the RMCC and he hit some
    POOOOOR shots. We'll see what the desert brings. It's a two day event
    for sure. 9 Sat. and 9 Sun. TV both days. ABC 3:30 Eastern Sat. not
    sure about Sun.

    
    This type of event is an agressive players dream and a consitent, par
    mackers nightmare.
    
    Unless they change playing style, Faldo may get shutout. True, he is
    an awesome golfer and a favorite in any tournament, but he gets that
    way, not by making lots of birdies, but by not making bogeys.
    
    Norman on the other hand makes a ton of birdies, but also lots of 
    bogeys at times.  
    
    In the skins you won't win squat with a par, you have very little to
    loose by being agressive, you figure out of 4 pros, 2 will make
    par so you need to go for it.
    
    I predict:
    
    Norman 
    Nicklause (if he gets rolling he can be a birdie machine)
    Faldo/Strange (toss up, but neither will make much)
    
    I sure hope that Nick and Curtis loosen up, don't the players usually
    have microphones on?
    
    --Bob
    

    I think Strange got shut-out last year...I'll bet on him to win...
    
    none of those pro's like to be shut out and usually come back strong
    the following year to "prove" it was a fluke the year before...

    someone just told me strange WON last year....can't trust that memory
    anymore....I'll still go with him...
    

    True, Faldo's a par-making machine, but so is/was Strange (who got shut
    out year before last, then won it last year). It's not how many birdies
    you make, it's when you make 'em. I think Faldo will do all right, and
    like his chances to come in first (though I'll be rooting for Norman).
    
    		Frank

    
    Final results:
    
    Strange - 220,000
    Norman  -  90,000
    Nicklaus & Faldo 70,000

    
    Ya, congrats to Strange... He played great...!
    
    There were some great shots made... I don't think I ever saw so many
    balls go for a swim as I did in this tourney though...
    
    It was also interesting that the only hole that Jack won, which was
    for two skins, he won with a "PAR"...!
    
    Then the sudden death with Faldo and Strange appeared like it would
    last for ever (then Faldo finally put one in the water on what was the
    fifth or sixth hole of sudden death)...! Faldo wanted to call it a draw
    and just split the money... ;-)
    
    BTW, they also announced the players that will be playing in the
    seniors skins. Due to a tie in the voting there will be 5 players
    in the seniors skins; Nicklaus, Trevino, Palmer, Player, and Chi Chi.
    

    re 1114.5 Strange was the defending champ he won $265K last year.  Was
    shut out the year before.

    
    	Regarding 1990 Skins game:
    
    		B - O - R - I - N - G !!!!!!!!!!!!
    

    
    
    RE: .11
    
    	All though this years skins game was a little mundane, I thought
    	the were some moments of interest/excitement...!
    
    	Curtis's great shot from the rocks, standing on the rocks barefoot
    	and knocking it to within about 10 feet...! Curtis's shot when he
    	was reading to tear apart the person that snapped a picture during
    	his swing, then he saw the shot ended up two feet from the hole...!
    	Jack needing to make about an eight footer on the 1st hole of
    	sudden death to be able to continue on, and missing (he had the
    	shortest of the three birdie putts...!)...! Greg almost getting
    	home in two on the LONG par 5 with driver/driver (not sure how long
    	the hole is, but I think the announcer said something about is tee
    	shot having gone over 300 and having about 300 left to the hole)..!
    	The first day for the first few holes they were ribbing each other
    	pretty good, but that didn't last to long. They just aren't the
    	foursome that will give you the laughs and side action stuff that
    	a Trevino, Chi Chi, Zoller, etc... will give you, but there was
    	still some real good golf played...
    
    	my 2 cents worth...
    	Gene

    
    Hi,
    	I guess it didn't quite live up to it's potential considering
    	the talent  involved. It's a bummer to see people out of the hole
    	right off the tee... tough course or what !
    
    	But as Gene said, there were some great shots! Can Faldo putt or
        what?  His chipping needs a little work ;) .... Curtis looks like
    	he found a putter he'll be keeping. Jack really struggled with his
    	game... tough sport, even if you know how/what to do, if you're
    	not putting in the time "Poof" it goes away.
    
    	Walta

    Is it just me, or was the whole pro tour a really the boring, who gives
    a flying youknowwhat it seemed this year. The Senior tour was
    interesting early, but it proceeded to become somnambuistic too. 
    Regular tour was a whole bunch of guys named "joe" winning their first
    events. Faldo is the best golfer in the world, but he isn't exciting to
    watch. Norman still needs to conquer that six inches between his ears,
    Strange went south, Jack is over le hill, etc., etc. moanmoanmaon.
    
    Anybody else less than excited by the caliber of golf played on tour
    this year?  

    re: .14
    
    I tend to agree and think it is because of saturation....too many
    good players today. It's the same in pro football/basketball/etc.
    add your own sport. Also good golf is not exciting but very much
    like chess in that the steady boring player will come out on top
    8 outa 10 times. 
    	Now if we could only get norman/calc/lenny wadkins/ken green
    into a skins game it might be more interesting to watch but this last
    weekend we had one agressive player and two "grinders" and a "once
    was" which didn't make for interesting golf. Am looking forward to
    senior skins with chi chi/lee, outa be a good show from entertainment
    standpoint the golf will have to wait and see....

    
    RE:14
    
    	I don't recall there being all that many first time winners...!
    	And what is wrong with first time winners...?
    
    	I personally didn't find it to be a boring year of tourney
    	watching.
    	
    
    	Regards
    	Gene

    
     I have one thing I would like to mention. With all the charities
    and all the needy people in the world today. The homeless, abused
    children, battered wives, aids and all the childhood deseases that
    pleague our society how can Jack Nichauls and Greg Norman donate thier
    % of the winnings to Junior Golf. I mean are these guys living in the
    same world as I am? Jack says " yes I am donating to the junior golf
    program that I have an endowment fund in and have controll of the
    funds". Gag me with a silver spoon. Strange donated to the abused
    children of Virginia, Faldo to a London hospital he had visited and
    I see them in a new light today for it. I see them a
    compassionate,sensitive, real people. I see Jack and Greg. Well two
    wrongs don't make a right. I don't feel the same about them.
    
    Pete

    re: .17
    Should we eliminate Junior Golf?  What charities shall we fund, only
    those you see as important?  Which diseases shall we try to conquer,
    Cancer, Alcoholism, AIDS, Luekimia...?  Should all funds go first to
    feed the starving, homes for the homeless, ...  Be certain that all 
    of your discreationary funds go to these things, no entertainment,
    eat only beans and cheap nourishing meals, etc.  Before you judge
    Norman and Nicklaus, maybe you should know to what charities and
    programs they already give - they may use personal funds and give far
    more than Faldo or Strange and to much more fitting things.  I gave
    25 years to Little League as coach and leader, should I be
    horse-whipped?  What about those Scout meetings and Junior Achievement?
    
    Big Mac

    Back to golf....
    
    I enjoyed seeing Curtis back on the course.  He wasn't very hungry this
    year, and consequently played poorly.  He looked like he's about 90% in
    the Skins, maybe next year the best player in the U.S. will be back!
    
    Rick

    
    RE .18
     You ask if we should eliminate Junior Gold. Of course not. I did not
     suggest or imply Junior Golf should be eliminated.
    
     You ask what funds should we fund, only the ones I see as
     important? Of course not. I did not suggest or imply my priorties
     should be that of others. 
    
     My point was that this was a chance for these two individuals to make
    it known to the thousands of people viewing and listening what was
    important to them. They did. 
    
     Should you be horse-whipped for giving 25 years of your time as a
    coach and leader? Of course not. Unless of course you know something I
    don't. I do know plenty of Little League coaches and leaders that
    should be horse-whipped.
    
     Oh and by the way. I would love to walk in thier mocassins.
    
    Big Pete 
            

    RE: .17
    
    	It's their progative which charities they donate their money. Also
    what's wrong with supporting the sport we love? May be YOU should quit
    playing and donate all the money you spend on golf to the charities.
    

    
    re .17
    
     Well maybe I just see things differently than some. I do contribute to 
    several charity organizations in the community but that is not what
    this notes file is intended to dicuss. I just intended to voice an
    opinion and obviously struck a nerve. so for the sake of the rest of
    the noters who don't wish to read the differences in our opinions lets
    let it lie. no hard feeling intended. We could could probably argue the
    point till the cows come home. That's a very popular term here in vt..
    
    pete
     

    
     You know who I love to see in Skins is Lee Trevino. Now that guy is
    fun to watch play golf. I think it because he is having so much fun.
    He's like a little kid out there. Always laughing and joking and
    talking to the crowd. If you could pick a foursome for a skins match
    who would you pick? I would pick; Lee Trevino
                                      Fuzzy
                                      Peter Jacobson
                                      Ray Floyd
    Hows about you?
    
    Pete

    re .19
    
    During the event (which I thought was great!, I'm going to try coding
    barefoot!!) they talked to Curtis about the less than great year he
    had.  He said (more or less) that he was so focused on winning a 
    third straight US OPEN that when he didn't he lost his concentration and 
    focus for the remainder of the year.