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Conference 7.286::golf

Title:Welcome to the Golf Notes Conference!
Notice:FOR SALE notes in Note 69 please! Intros in note 863 or 61.
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2129
Total number of notes:21499

1109.0. "-< COURSE RATINGS >" by MFGMEM::LONGO () Fri Nov 09 1990 13:38

I thought that a good GOLF topic for this off-season might be 

                      COURSE RATINGS

This information could be useful to all of us, whenever we are in the 
process of playing in a strange course.

If I may, I like uo suggest the following format:

- Area/states alphabetically 
- Name of course(s) alphabetically within each area
- Name of town/city
- Course distance and rating for 
          - Championship tees (usually blue)
          - Men's regular tees (usually white)
          - Woman's tees (usually red)

i.e.

CONNECTICUT

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COURSE           | LOCATION |    DISTANCE (yrds)    |    RATING & SLOPE   
                 |          | Champ | Men's | Women | Champ | Men's | Women
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 |          |       |       |       |       |       |
                 |          |       |       |       |       |       |



MASSACHUSSETTS

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COURSE           | LOCATION |    DISTANCE (yrds)    |    RATING & SLOPE   
                 |          | Champ | Men's | Women | Champ | Men's | Women
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cranberry Valley |Harwich   | 6745  | 6296  | 5518  |  72.4 |  70.4 | 71.3
                 |          |       |       |       |  N/A  |  123  | 115
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------


ETC.... ETC....

- The information can be extracted from score cards most of the time.
- CRANBERRY VALLEY statistics are actual values.

I feel that people could be sending data in notes ans some volonteer or
the moderator could combine them together.

WHAT A LIBRARY!
                            
T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name
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1109.1Just a couple more for now...MSEE::KELLEYGolf club repair/custom clubsFri Nov 09 1990 14:5652
    
    
    
    
    I added two course to Bert's list (the only two I have cards for in 
    my office).
    
    The easies may (that I know of) for any of you have some courses that
    you would like to add to the list, to do so, is to extract this reply
    and edit it. Then get back into notes and get to this note (1109) and
    do a REPLY "file name that you just edited". I will periodicly delete
    the old lists...
    
    Regards
    Gene
    
    
CONNECTICUT

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COURSE           | LOCATION |    DISTANCE (yrds)    |    RATING & SLOPE   
                 |          | Champ | Men's | Women | Champ | Men's | Women
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 |          |       |       |       |       |       |
                 |          |       |       |       |       |       |



MASSACHUSSETTS

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COURSE           | LOCATION |    DISTANCE (yrds)    |    RATING & SLOPE   
                 |          | Champ | Men's | Women | Champ | Men's | Women
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cranberry Valley |Harwich   | 6745  | 6296  | 5518  |  72.4 |  70.4 | 71.3
                 |          |       |       |       |  N/A  |  123  | 115
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------


New Hampshire
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COURSE           | LOCATION |    DISTANCE (yrds)    |    RATING & SLOPE   
                 |          | Champ | Men's | Women | Champ | Men's | Women
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Charmingfare GC  | Candia   | 6586  | 6337  | 5594  | 71.2  | 70.0  | 72.3
                 |          |       |       |       | 122   | 120   | 130
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hoodkroft CC (9) | Derry    |       | 6436  | 5212  |       | 70.7  | 68.8
		 |          |       |       |       |       | 124   | 111
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                            
1109.2{one more}BOSOX::WEWINGFri Nov 09 1990 15:3237
    
CONNECTICUT

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
COURSE           | LOCATION |    DISTANCE (yrds)    |    RATING & SLOPE   
                 |          | Champ | Men's | Women | Champ | Men's | Women
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 |          |       |       |       |       |       |
                 |          |       |       |       |       |       |



MASSACHUSSETTS

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
COURSE           | LOCATION |    DISTANCE (yrds)    |    RATING & SLOPE   
                 |          | Champ | Men's | Women | Champ | Men's | Women
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cranberry Valley |Harwich   | 6745  | 6296  | 5518  |  72.4 |  70.4 | 71.3
                 |          |       |       |       |  N/A  |  123  | 115
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hillview GC      |N.Reading |       | 5754  | 5184  |       |  66.0 | 68.7
		 |          |       |       |       |       |  106  | 108
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

New Hampshire
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
COURSE           | LOCATION |    DISTANCE (yrds)    |    RATING & SLOPE   
                 |          | Champ | Men's | Women | Champ | Men's | Women
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Charmingfare GC  | Candia   | 6586  | 6337  | 5594  | 71.2  | 70.0  | 72.3
                 |          |       |       |       | 122   | 120   | 130
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hoodkroft CC (9) | Derry    |       | 6436  | 5212  |       | 70.7  | 68.8
		 |          |       |       |       |       | 124   | 111
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                            
1109.3some of these additions are from VERY old scorecards...KEEMO::R_MAILLETMon Nov 12 1990 12:0637

   INDIANA			CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pleasant Run MGC   Indianapolis			5918 72.4	     67.3
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------



   MASSACHUSETTS		CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Berlin CC	   Berlin			4626 62.9 108	4164
Cranberry Valley   Harwich   	6745 72.4 N/A	6296 70.4 123	5518 71.3 115
Ellinwood CC	   Athol	6061		5751		5068
Gardner MGC	   Gardner	6097 68.0 	5974 68.0	5566 73.0
Grand View CC	   Leominster			6744		6274
Heritage CC	   Charlton	6355		5905 69.7 113	5505 70.3 115
Hillview GC	   N.Reading			5754 66.0 106	5184 68.7 108
Leicester Hill	   Leicester			6100		5565
Pakachoag GC	   Auburn			6510 70.8 118	6474 71.0 119
Twin Springs (9)   Bolton			5462
Westminster CC	   Westminster	6473		6223		5495
Winchendon Sch CC  Winchendon			5317 65.2	5107 68.0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------



   NEW HAMPSHIRE		CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Charmingfare GC    Candia	6586 71.2 122	6337 70.0 120	5594 72.3 130
Hoodkroft CC (9)   Derry			6436 70.7 124	5212 68.8 111
Sagamore-Hampton   N.Hampton			6479		6331
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1109.4Not me, last program I wrote was in BAL.DNEAST::STEVENS_JIMMon Nov 12 1990 14:198
    Now, if some compute type guru could create a database with all
    this information, grant us all access to it, we could extract
    courses by State, slope, alpha, etc, etc.
    
    Any volunteers ?
    
    Jim
    
1109.5recommendations, not ratingsCSC32::J_KLEINTue Nov 13 1990 00:3112
    
    I like this idea with one exception:
    
    If I'm traveling and would like info about a course in the area, I can
    usually get course names, par and rating etc from the yellow pages.
    What I'd like to see is a geographical listing that includes comments
    and recommendations to help me decide which course to play. Ratings
    etc don't tell me anything about the condition, beauty, difficulty
    and enjoyment a course offers.
    
                                          -Joe
    
1109.6I've added some of my favoritesSCAACT::ONAKABorn to GolfTue Nov 13 1990 02:1788
   
    


   CALIFORNIA    		CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*see footnote
Industry Hills     City of  Blk 7213 75.8   Wht 6712 72.8       5637 72.7
Eisenhower Course  Industry Blu 6712 72.8   Gld 5967 69.1
    
Mesa Verde C.C.    Costa Mesa   6771 73.1       6289 70.2       5763 72.2
Anaheim Hills G.C. Anaheim      6330 70.5       6050 68.0       5659 71.0
Rancho Park G.C.   Los Angeles  6585 71.2       6216 69.0       5928 73.0
Indian Hills C.C.  Riverside    6476 69.5       6049 67.2       5750 70.2
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    

   HAWAII        		CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Makena Resort G.C. Maui         6739 71.9       6210 69.4       5441 70.1
Kapalua - Bay      Maui         6761 73.1 139.9 6151 69.8 131.3 5278 69.2 115
Kauai Lagoon-Kiele Kauai        7070            6637            5417         
Kauai Lagoon-LagoonKauai        6942            6545            5607         
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    
   INDIANA			CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pleasant Run MGC   Indianapolis			5918 72.4	     67.3
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------



   MASSACHUSETTS		CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Berlin CC	   Berlin			4626 62.9 108	4164
Cranberry Valley   Harwich   	6745 72.4 N/A	6296 70.4 123	5518 71.3 115
Ellinwood CC	   Athol	6061		5751		5068
Gardner MGC	   Gardner	6097 68.0 	5974 68.0	5566 73.0
Grand View CC	   Leominster			6744		6274
Heritage CC	   Charlton	6355		5905 69.7 113	5505 70.3 115
Hillview GC	   N.Reading			5754 66.0 106	5184 68.7 108
Leicester Hill	   Leicester			6100		5565
Pakachoag GC	   Auburn			6510 70.8 118	6474 71.0 119
Twin Springs (9)   Bolton			5462
Westminster CC	   Westminster	6473		6223		5495
Winchendon Sch CC  Winchendon			5317 65.2	5107 68.0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------



   NEVADA        		CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sahara C.C.        Las Vegas    6815 72.0       6418 70.0       5761 71.5
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    

   NEW HAMPSHIRE		CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Charmingfare GC    Candia	6586 71.2 122	6337 70.0 120	5594 72.3 130
Hoodkroft CC (9)   Derry			6436 70.7 124	5212 68.8 111
Sagamore-Hampton   N.Hampton			6479		6331
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


* Industry Hills is a 600-acre $63 million complex built in late '70s.
  It has two 18 hole championship courses, 17 tennis courts, an Olympic
  size swimming and diving pool, Equestrian center and an 11-story hotel.
  The golf club includes pro shop, beverage facility, Ralph W. Miller
  Memorial Golf Library and the men's and women's locker rooms with saunas,
  jacuzzis, billiards and health spa. The Dwight D. Eisenhower course
  opened on November, 1979 with tough rough (4-6 in.) 108 traps, lakes,
  and really large undulated greens. They have 5 tees; black, blue, white,
  gold and red. The black tee is rated at 75.8 and was the second hardest
 course in the United States and onlly players allowed to use it are
  with valid handicap of 7 or less.  There are several video cameras
  placed on the course and monitored in the pro shop. I played from
  blue tee and had one of my best golfing and shot 80 (my HDCP at the
  time was 4) The green was PERFECT, true and smoooooth but fast as
  putting on marble.
1109.7more for new hampshire..CSS::GORDONTue Nov 20 1990 17:3592
   CALIFORNIA    		CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*see footnote
Industry Hills     City of  Blk 7213 75.8   Wht 6712 72.8       5637 72.7
Eisenhower Course  Industry Blu 6712 72.8   Gld 5967 69.1
    
Mesa Verde C.C.    Costa Mesa   6771 73.1       6289 70.2       5763 72.2
Anaheim Hills G.C. Anaheim      6330 70.5       6050 68.0       5659 71.0
Rancho Park G.C.   Los Angeles  6585 71.2       6216 69.0       5928 73.0
Indian Hills C.C.  Riverside    6476 69.5       6049 67.2       5750 70.2
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    

   HAWAII        		CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Makena Resort G.C. Maui         6739 71.9       6210 69.4       5441 70.1
Kapalua - Bay      Maui         6761 73.1 139.9 6151 69.8 131.3 5278 69.2 115
Kauai Lagoon-Kiele Kauai        7070            6637            5417         
Kauai Lagoon-LagoonKauai        6942            6545            5607         
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    
   INDIANA			CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pleasant Run MGC   Indianapolis			5918 72.4	     67.3
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------



   MASSACHUSETTS		CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Berlin CC	   Berlin			4626 62.9 108	4164
Cranberry Valley   Harwich   	6745 72.4 N/A	6296 70.4 123	5518 71.3 115
Ellinwood CC	   Athol	6061		5751		5068
Gardner MGC	   Gardner	6097 68.0 	5974 68.0	5566 73.0
Grand View CC	   Leominster			6744		6274
Heritage CC	   Charlton	6355		5905 69.7 113	5505 70.3 115
Hillview GC	   N.Reading			5754 66.0 106	5184 68.7 108
Leicester Hill	   Leicester			6100		5565
Pakachoag GC	   Auburn			6510 70.8 118	6474 71.0 119
Twin Springs (9)   Bolton			5462
Westminster CC	   Westminster	6473		6223		5495
Winchendon Sch CC  Winchendon			5317 65.2	5107 68.0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------



   NEVADA        		CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sahara C.C.        Las Vegas    6815 72.0       6418 70.0       5761 71.5
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    

   NEW HAMPSHIRE		CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Charmingfare GC    Candia	6586 71.2 122	6337 70.0 120	5594 72.3 130
Hoodkroft CC (9)   Derry			6436 70.7 124	5212 68.8 111
Sagamore-Hampton   N.Hampton			6479		6331
Abenaqui	   Rye Beach	6247 71.2	6101 69.2	5472 70.8
Great Bay G.C.	   P.A.F.B.	6035 68.6 110	5817 67.5 109	5266 69.5 115
		   Newington
Cochecho C.C.	   Dover	6317 69.7 119	6111 69.5 117	5563 73.4 129
Rochester C.C.	   Gonic	6585 71.5 120	6317 68.7 116	5326 71.2 121
Laconia C.C.	   Laconia			6253		5642
Amherst C.C.	   Amherst	6520 70.5 119	6000 68.2 115	5532 71.5 123
Rockingham C.C.(9) Newmarket			5960 65.2 104	5244      113
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


* Industry Hills is a 600-acre $63 million complex built in late '70s.
  It has two 18 hole championship courses, 17 tennis courts, an Olympic
  size swimming and diving pool, Equestrian center and an 11-story hotel.
  The golf club includes pro shop, beverage facility, Ralph W. Miller
  Memorial Golf Library and the men's and women's locker rooms with saunas,
  jacuzzis, billiards and health spa. The Dwight D. Eisenhower course
  opened on November, 1979 with tough rough (4-6 in.) 108 traps, lakes,
  and really large undulated greens. They have 5 tees; black, blue, white,
  gold and red. The black tee is rated at 75.8 and was the second hardest
 course in the United States and onlly players allowed to use it are
  with valid handicap of 7 or less.  There are several video cameras
  placed on the course and monitored in the pro shop. I played from
  blue tee and had one of my best golfing and shot 80 (my HDCP at the
  time was 4) The green was PERFECT, true and smoooooth but fast as
  putting on marble.
1109.8More From CaliforniaRAYBOK::COOPEROne-ton Tomato !Wed Nov 28 1990 16:56133
                 <<< MSEE::USER$1:[NOTES$LIBRARY]GOLF.NOTE;2 >>>
                      -< The TRUE Head Game... ;-)...:-{ >-
================================================================================
Note 1109.7                    -< COURSE RATINGS >                        7 of 7
CSS::GORDON                                          92 lines  20-NOV-1990 14:35
                         -< more for new hampshire.. >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   CALIFORNIA    		CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*see footnote
Industry Hills     City of  Blk 7213 75.8   Wht 6712 72.8       5637 72.7
Eisenhower Course  Industry Blu 6712 72.8   Gld 5967 69.1
    
Mesa Verde C.C.    Costa Mesa   6771 73.1       6289 70.2       5763 72.2
Anaheim Hills G.C. Anaheim      6330 70.5       6050 68.0       5659 71.0
Rancho Park G.C.   Los Angeles  6585 71.2       6216 69.0       5928 73.0
Indian Hills C.C.  Riverside    6476 69.5       6049 67.2       5750 70.2
Oakhurst C.C.      Clayton      6739 73 129     5843 68.8 118   5285 70.1
Poppy Hills        Pebble Beach 6850 74.6 141   6219 71.7 134
Rancho Canada East Carmel       6118 68.9 114   5772 67.3 111
Laguna Seca        Monterey     6110 70.4 123   5711 68.5 119
Lake Tahoe GC      So.Lake Tahoe 6707 70.6 117  6169 67.9 110
Lake Chabot GC     Oakland                      6180 65.9 114
Harding Park       Daly City                    6637 71.3 119
Frankilin Canyon   Rodeo        6800 72.6 130   6400 70.7 126
Forest Meadows     Murphys      3985 57.5  97
Dryden Park        Modesto      6531 69.3 119   6238 67.9 116
Escalon GC         Escalon                      1520 52.6  67
Dry Creek Ranch    Galt         6707 71.6 111   6464 70   116
De Laveaga         Santa Cruz                   5979 70.1 130
Bouldr Creek GC    Boulder Creek                4279 61.8 101
Aptos Seascape     Aptos                        6123 69.6 124
Summitpointe GCC   Milpitas     6329 70   121   6062 68.7 117
Sunol Valley GC    Sunol (Palm) 6895 72.2 118   6464 70.3 114
  "     "     "     " (Cypress) 6185 69.1 115   5806 67.2 112 
Swenson Park GC    Stockton                     6407 69   110 
Tilden  Park       El Cerrito   6924 69.9 118   5823 67.8 114
Van Buskirk GC     Stockton                     6572 69.2 110
Springtown GC      Livermore                    5710 65.9 104
San Jose Muni      San Jose     6659 70.1 108   6362 68.7 105
Santa Clara G&T    Santa Clara  6853 72.2 121   6474 70.5 118
Santa Theresa GC   San Jose     6742 71.1 121   6430 70   119
Riverside GC       Coyote       6850 70.8 116   6580 69.4 113
Ridgemark GCC      Hollister    6603 72.4 127   6032 69.8 121
Pajaro Valley GC   Watsonville  6234 69   116   6065 68.2 114
Manteca GC         Manteca      6447 70.2 119   6281 69.2 115
Mare Island GC     Vallejo                      6045 68.8 110
Mace Meadow GCC    Pioneer      6285 70.1 122   6010 68.8 120
Lone Tree GC       Antioch      6298 69.8 116   5946 67.8 112
Lake Don Pedro GCC La Grange    6244 68.5 112   6017 67.4 112
    
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    

   HAWAII        		CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Makena Resort G.C. Maui         6739 71.9       6210 69.4       5441 70.1
Kapalua - Bay      Maui         6761 73.1 139.9 6151 69.8 131.3 5278 69.2 115
Kauai Lagoon-Kiele Kauai        7070            6637            5417         
Kauai Lagoon-LagoonKauai        6942            6545            5607         
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    
   INDIANA			CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pleasant Run MGC   Indianapolis			5918 72.4	     67.3
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------



   MASSACHUSETTS		CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Berlin CC	   Berlin			4626 62.9 108	4164
Cranberry Valley   Harwich   	6745 72.4 N/A	6296 70.4 123	5518 71.3 115
Ellinwood CC	   Athol	6061		5751		5068
Gardner MGC	   Gardner	6097 68.0 	5974 68.0	5566 73.0
Grand View CC	   Leominster			6744		6274
Heritage CC	   Charlton	6355		5905 69.7 113	5505 70.3 115
Hillview GC	   N.Reading			5754 66.0 106	5184 68.7 108
Leicester Hill	   Leicester			6100		5565
Pakachoag GC	   Auburn			6510 70.8 118	6474 71.0 119
Twin Springs (9)   Bolton			5462
Westminster CC	   Westminster	6473		6223		5495
Winchendon Sch CC  Winchendon			5317 65.2	5107 68.0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------



   NEVADA        		CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sahara C.C.        Las Vegas    6815 72.0       6418 70.0       5761 71.5
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    

   NEW HAMPSHIRE		CHAMPIONSHIP_	_____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Charmingfare GC    Candia	6586 71.2 122	6337 70.0 120	5594 72.3 130
Hoodkroft CC (9)   Derry			6436 70.7 124	5212 68.8 111
Sagamore-Hampton   N.Hampton			6479		6331
Abenaqui	   Rye Beach	6247 71.2	6101 69.2	5472 70.8
Great Bay G.C.	   P.A.F.B.	6035 68.6 110	5817 67.5 109	5266 69.5 115
		   Newington
Cochecho C.C.	   Dover	6317 69.7 119	6111 69.5 117	5563 73.4 129
Rochester C.C.	   Gonic	6585 71.5 120	6317 68.7 116	5326 71.2 121
Laconia C.C.	   Laconia			6253		5642
Amherst C.C.	   Amherst	6520 70.5 119	6000 68.2 115	5532 71.5 123
Rockingham C.C.(9) Newmarket			5960 65.2 104	5244      113
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


* Industry Hills is a 600-acre $63 million complex built in late '70s.
  It has two 18 hole championship courses, 17 tennis courts, an Olympic
  size swimming and diving pool, Equestrian center and an 11-story hotel.
  The golf club includes pro shop, beverage facility, Ralph W. Miller
  Memorial Golf Library and the men's and women's locker rooms with saunas,
  jacuzzis, billiards and health spa. The Dwight D. Eisenhower course
  opened on November, 1979 with tough rough (4-6 in.) 108 traps, lakes,
  and really large undulated greens. They have 5 tees; black, blue, white,
  gold and red. The black tee is rated at 75.8 and was the second hardest
 course in the United States and onlly players allowed to use it are
  with valid handicap of 7 or less.  There are several video cameras
  placed on the course and monitored in the pro shop. I played from
  blue tee and had one of my best golfing and shot 80 (my HDCP at the
  time was 4) The green was PERFECT, true and smoooooth but fast as
  putting on marble.
1109.9-<FLORIDA ADDITION >MFGMEM::LONGOThu Nov 29 1990 14:00153


	CALIFORNIA

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    COURSE         PLACE         CHAMPIONSHIP   _____MEN_____	 ___WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*see footnote
Industry Hills     City of  Blk 7213 75.8   Wht 6712 72.8       5637 72.7
Eisenhower Course  Industry Blu 6712 72.8   Gld 5967 69.1
    
Mesa Verde C.C.    Costa Mesa   6771 73.1       6289 70.2       5763 72.2
Anaheim Hills G.C. Anaheim      6330 70.5       6050 68.0       5659 71.0
Rancho Park G.C.   Los Angeles  6585 71.2       6216 69.0       5928 73.0
Indian Hills C.C.  Riverside    6476 69.5       6049 67.2       5750 70.2
Oakhurst C.C.      Clayton      6739 73 129     5843 68.8 118   5285 70.1
Poppy Hills        Pebble Beach 6850 74.6 141   6219 71.7 134
Rancho Canada East Carmel       6118 68.9 114   5772 67.3 111
Laguna Seca        Monterey     6110 70.4 123   5711 68.5 119
Lake Tahoe GC      So.Lake Tahoe 6707 70.6 117  6169 67.9 110
Lake Chabot GC     Oakland                      6180 65.9 114
Harding Park       Daly City                    6637 71.3 119
Frankilin Canyon   Rodeo        6800 72.6 130   6400 70.7 126
Forest Meadows     Murphys      3985 57.5  97
Dryden Park        Modesto      6531 69.3 119   6238 67.9 116
Escalon GC         Escalon                      1520 52.6  67
Dry Creek Ranch    Galt         6707 71.6 111   6464 70   116
De Laveaga         Santa Cruz                   5979 70.1 130
Bouldr Creek GC    Boulder Creek                4279 61.8 101
Aptos Seascape     Aptos                        6123 69.6 124
Summitpointe GCC   Milpitas     6329 70   121   6062 68.7 117
Sunol Valley GC    Sunol (Palm) 6895 72.2 118   6464 70.3 114
  "     "     "     " (Cypress) 6185 69.1 115   5806 67.2 112 
Swenson Park GC    Stockton                     6407 69   110 
Tilden  Park       El Cerrito   6924 69.9 118   5823 67.8 114
Van Buskirk GC     Stockton                     6572 69.2 110
Springtown GC      Livermore                    5710 65.9 104
San Jose Muni      San Jose     6659 70.1 108   6362 68.7 105
Santa Clara G&T    Santa Clara  6853 72.2 121   6474 70.5 118
Santa Theresa GC   San Jose     6742 71.1 121   6430 70   119
Riverside GC       Coyote       6850 70.8 116   6580 69.4 113
Ridgemark GCC      Hollister    6603 72.4 127   6032 69.8 121
Pajaro Valley GC   Watsonville  6234 69   116   6065 68.2 114
Manteca GC         Manteca      6447 70.2 119   6281 69.2 115
Mare Island GC     Vallejo                      6045 68.8 110
Mace Meadow GCC    Pioneer      6285 70.1 122   6010 68.8 120
Lone Tree GC       Antioch      6298 69.8 116   5946 67.8 112
Lake Don Pedro GCC La Grange    6244 68.5 112   6017 67.4 112
    


	FLORIDA

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   COURSE         PLACE          CHAMPIONSHIP    ____MEN_____    ____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
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Doral-Blue Crs   Miami          7065 73         7727 73         6189 



	HAWAII   

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   COURSE         PLACE          CHAMPIONSHIP    ____MEN_____    ____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
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Makena Resort G.C. Maui         6739 71.9       6210 69.4       5441 70.1
Kapalua - Bay      Maui         6761 73.1 139.9 6151 69.8 131.3 5278 69.2 115
Kauai Lagoon-Kiele Kauai        7070            6637            5417         
Kauai Lagoon-LagoonKauai        6942            6545            5607         
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	INDIANA

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   COURSE             PLACE      CHAMPIONSHIP    _____MEN_____   ____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
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Pleasant Run MGC   Indianapolis			5918 72.4	     67.3
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	 MASSACHUSETTS

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   COURSE          PLACE         CHAMPIONSHIP    ____MEN_____    ____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
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Berlin CC	   Berlin			4626 62.9 108	4164
Cranberry Valley   Harwich   	6745 72.4 N/A	6296 70.4 123	5518 71.3 115
Ellinwood CC	   Athol	6061		5751		5068
Gardner MGC	   Gardner	6097 68.0 	5974 68.0	5566 73.0
Grand View CC	   Leominster			6744		6274
Heritage CC	   Charlton	6355		5905 69.7 113	5505 70.3 115
Hillview GC	   N.Reading			5754 66.0 106	5184 68.7 108
Leicester Hill	   Leicester			6100		5565
Pakachoag GC	   Auburn			6510 70.8 118	6474 71.0 119
Twin Springs (9)   Bolton			5462
Westminster CC	   Westminster	6473		6223		5495
Winchendon Sch CC  Winchendon			5317 65.2	5107 68.0
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	 NEVADA

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  COURSE          PLACE          CHAMPIONSHIP   _____MEN_____	____WOMEN____
  				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
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Sahara C.C.        Las Vegas    6815 72.0       6418 70.0       5761 71.5
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	 NEW HAMPSHIRE
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  COURSE           PLACE         CHAMPIONSHIP    _____MEN_____   ____WOMEN____
				 YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP    YD  RTNG SLP
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Charmingfare GC    Candia	6586 71.2 122	6337 70.0 120	5594 72.3 130
Hoodkroft CC (9)   Derry			6436 70.7 124	5212 68.8 111
Sagamore-Hampton   N.Hampton			6479		6331
Abenaqui	   Rye Beach	6247 71.2	6101 69.2	5472 70.8
Great Bay G.C.	   P.A.F.B.	6035 68.6 110	5817 67.5 109	5266 69.5 115
		   Newington
Cochecho C.C.	   Dover	6317 69.7 119	6111 69.5 117	5563 73.4 129
Rochester C.C.	   Gonic	6585 71.5 120	6317 68.7 116	5326 71.2 121
Laconia C.C.	   Laconia			6253		5642
Amherst C.C.	   Amherst	6520 70.5 119	6000 68.2 115	5532 71.5 123
Rockingham C.C.(9) Newmarket			5960 65.2 104	5244      113
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* Industry Hills is a 600-acre $63 million complex built in late '70s.
  It has two 18 hole championship courses, 17 tennis courts, an Olympic
  size swimming and diving pool, Equestrian center and an 11-story hotel.
  The golf club includes pro shop, beverage facility, Ralph W. Miller
  Memorial Golf Library and the men's and women's locker rooms with saunas,
  jacuzzis, billiards and health spa. The Dwight D. Eisenhower course
  opened on November, 1979 with tough rough (4-6 in.) 108 traps, lakes,
  and really large undulated greens. They have 5 tees; black, blue, white,
  gold and red. The black tee is rated at 75.8 and was the second hardest
 course in the United States and onlly players allowed to use it are
  with valid handicap of 7 or less.  There are several video cameras
  placed on the course and monitored in the pro shop. I played from
  blue tee and had one of my best golfing and shot 80 (my HDCP at the
  time was 4) The green was PERFECT, true and smoooooth but fast as
  putting on marble.