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Conference 7.286::golf

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Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
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1036.0. "Blind Holes" by RAYBOK::COOPER (MAD HACKER) Thu Jul 26 1990 21:35

         There is always a lot of talk in this notesfile about blind
    holes . Many courses have them including some of the worlds great
    ones. My favorite blind hole is at the Lake Chabot muni in
    Oakland ,Cal. #13 is approx. 390 yds, par 4 with a 50 foot hill
    across the fairway about 75 yards out. What you do is walk up the
    right side about 50 feet and climb up on a platform where they
    have a periscope for you to look through !!! It is great to
    line up on the next group, especially if they are slow, and
    dream of firing a three torpedo spread into them ! Whoosh,
    boom, gurgle, gurgle! Other than that the hole is pretty non-
    descript ! What is your favorite blind hole ?
    
    Mad Hacker
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1036.1at least you could see the view of the riverVIVIAN::P_MCSKEANEFri Jul 27 1990 13:3842
The 17th hole at my old club at Gleddoch in Scotland may not be my favourite
hole but it certainly was the most interesting. It was 398 yards long with
an almost 90 degree dogleg in the middle, blind tee shot, blind approach, 
a 200 foot drop from tee to green and last but not least out of bounds down
both sides!


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            OUT OF BOUNDS                   OUT OF BOUNDS
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__________________________________ x 200 yards  | 70 FOOT DROP
      OUT OF BOUNDS              |   from Tee   |
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                  FOREST       U |              |______________________
                               T |              | O   B
        FOREST                   |              | U   O
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                 FOREST        F |              |     N
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     FOREST                    B |              | F   S
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                               U |              |
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                               D |              | 160 FOOT DROP
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The fairway was quite wide about 50-60 so the out of bounds didn't really 
come into play unless you hit too far and straight or unless you tried to
chew too much off the corner. The ideal line and landing area is protected
by the two fairway bunkers and required a carry of about 220 yards because of
the height of the trees. If you take this line then you left with a shot of 
around 130 yards but the greenside bunkers come into play. 

I usually hit a four iron down to the corner and leave myself another 4 iron
of about 200 yards to the green hoping to avoid a hook or a pull. Any other
ideas of how you would play it?
1036.2LOOK OUT!LABC::MCCLUSKYFri Jul 27 1990 17:112
    NONE.  They are too dangerous!
    Big Mac
1036.3I like this one!GRANPA::RFAGLEYMon Jul 30 1990 18:2251
    Blind Par Four's are poor excuses for golf holes.  To me, they are an
    excellent display of bad architecture.  I don't know if par 5's with
    blind tee shots qualify here, but if they do, we have a great one on 
    our course.
    
    625 yard par 5
    
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1036.4blind holes = pet peeveDEMSUP::BLAISDELLSign up for Challenge Cup 90Mon Jul 30 1990 19:519
    
    
      Any time you can't see your target, it is a bad hole.  I don't even
    like elevated greens where you can't see the bottom of the pin, so you
    can guage what part of the green to hit it to.  A golf hole can offer
    so much in varying designs without "hiding" things from the golfer.
    MHO of course.
    
    -rick
1036.5Blind shot for a penaltyWALTA::LENEHANJust Maui'dMon Jul 30 1990 20:1711
    
    	The only time I feel a blind hole makes sense, is when you missed
    a tee-shot etc. and ended up in a poor location. Like if you didn't 
    get over the crest of a hill, or didn't quite make the dogleg...
    
    	But if the blind part of the hole can't be avoided even if you hit
    a PERFECT shot ... YECH !!!!!!!! Golf is tough enough .
    
    	Walta
    
    	
1036.6Tamarron has twoDENVER::DIGNANSo much to read, so little timeWed Aug 08 1990 02:5025
    I just got back from Tamarron in SW Colorado, where I got to play the
    course 3 times. This course is rated in Golf Digest's top 75 resort
    courses.  There are two blind par 4s, both on the back side.  The first
    goes out about 200 yards with trees on both sides, then drops about
    40-50 feet nearly straight down.  There is a lake below and left and
    the fairway is quite narrow at this point, so it was best to lay up
    with an iron off the tee and then shoot about 150 to the green, which
    is well protected by the lake and large traps.
    
    The second and much more dramatic hole has an elevated tee and a well
    defined "landing area" out about 200 yards.  From there, you turn 90
    degrees left and drop off a cliff, down maybe 150 ft or more.  There is
    actually a sign nailed high in a tree above the green to give you a
    target.  If your tee shot lies near the edge of the cliff, you have
    about 150 in, and can easily see the green (and the lakes, and the
    traps!) below.  If you play it safe and are sitting back, it's closer
    to 200 yds in, and completely blind.   I did par it on day 2, but when
    you don't par it...ouch!   
    
    Although the holes seemed a bit "trick" at first, I came to enjoy them;
    and once you know what to expect, they played fairly.
    
    btw, this was one beautiful course.  Play it if you get the chance.
    
    pjd