| The 17th hole at my old club at Gleddoch in Scotland may not be my favourite
hole but it certainly was the most interesting. It was 398 yards long with
an almost 90 degree dogleg in the middle, blind tee shot, blind approach,
a 200 foot drop from tee to green and last but not least out of bounds down
both sides!
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OUT OF BOUNDS OUT OF BOUNDS
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OUT OF BOUNDS | from Tee |
FOREST O | |
FOREST U | |______________________
T | | O B
FOREST | | U O
O | | T U
FOREST F | | N
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FOREST B | | F S
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U | |
FOREST N | |______________
D | | 160 FOOT DROP
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The fairway was quite wide about 50-60 so the out of bounds didn't really
come into play unless you hit too far and straight or unless you tried to
chew too much off the corner. The ideal line and landing area is protected
by the two fairway bunkers and required a carry of about 220 yards because of
the height of the trees. If you take this line then you left with a shot of
around 130 yards but the greenside bunkers come into play.
I usually hit a four iron down to the corner and leave myself another 4 iron
of about 200 yards to the green hoping to avoid a hook or a pull. Any other
ideas of how you would play it?
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| Blind Par Four's are poor excuses for golf holes. To me, they are an
excellent display of bad architecture. I don't know if par 5's with
blind tee shots qualify here, but if they do, we have a great one on
our course.
625 yard par 5
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Any time you can't see your target, it is a bad hole. I don't even
like elevated greens where you can't see the bottom of the pin, so you
can guage what part of the green to hit it to. A golf hole can offer
so much in varying designs without "hiding" things from the golfer.
MHO of course.
-rick
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The only time I feel a blind hole makes sense, is when you missed
a tee-shot etc. and ended up in a poor location. Like if you didn't
get over the crest of a hill, or didn't quite make the dogleg...
But if the blind part of the hole can't be avoided even if you hit
a PERFECT shot ... YECH !!!!!!!! Golf is tough enough .
Walta
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| I just got back from Tamarron in SW Colorado, where I got to play the
course 3 times. This course is rated in Golf Digest's top 75 resort
courses. There are two blind par 4s, both on the back side. The first
goes out about 200 yards with trees on both sides, then drops about
40-50 feet nearly straight down. There is a lake below and left and
the fairway is quite narrow at this point, so it was best to lay up
with an iron off the tee and then shoot about 150 to the green, which
is well protected by the lake and large traps.
The second and much more dramatic hole has an elevated tee and a well
defined "landing area" out about 200 yards. From there, you turn 90
degrees left and drop off a cliff, down maybe 150 ft or more. There is
actually a sign nailed high in a tree above the green to give you a
target. If your tee shot lies near the edge of the cliff, you have
about 150 in, and can easily see the green (and the lakes, and the
traps!) below. If you play it safe and are sitting back, it's closer
to 200 yds in, and completely blind. I did par it on day 2, but when
you don't par it...ouch!
Although the holes seemed a bit "trick" at first, I came to enjoy them;
and once you know what to expect, they played fairly.
btw, this was one beautiful course. Play it if you get the chance.
pjd
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