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Conference 7.286::golf

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Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2129
Total number of notes:21499

995.0. "skins game" by ASABET::STORY () Mon Jul 02 1990 08:25

    hello,
    could anyone tell me how they pick the players for the skins game?.
    is it by invitation?, or do they pick the top four players who have
    shot the best over a period of time?. 
    
                                                 thanks ,
    
                                                       paul
    
    
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995.1re: note 995.0ASABET::STORYMon Jul 02 1990 08:326
    why do they call it the skins game? , how did that name come about?.
    
                                                 thanks again
     
                                                         paul
    
995.2DICKNS::F_MCGOWANZoot who?Mon Jul 02 1990 16:2913
    It's not really clear (to me) how the Skins participants are picked,
    but my cynical self suspects TV ratings are probably a key factor, and
    that colorful players will be chosen over less-colorful, regardless of
    who's won which tournaments...this is, after all, a made-for-TV event.
    I'd say Greg Norman is almost a cinch to be there, no matter how he
    fares in tournaments between now and then.
    
    The term "skin" probably comes from the vernacular of hunting, and
    refers to "skinning" one's victims (in this case, the other three
    players). Just a guess.
    
    
    		Frank
995.31 of 4 is last year's champDUGGAN::YOOMunich boundWed Jul 04 1990 16:551
    The defending champion is always invited back the next year.
995.4threepeat for payneODIXIE::RHARRISGun Control is a steady hand!Mon Nov 29 1993 19:228
    Anybody watch this year's skins game?  Azinger sure got testy with the
    crowd.  I think he was irritated that he didn't get any skins.
    Darn shame about Palmer missing that eagle chip for a skin.  It would
    have been nice to see him pick up a chunk of change.  Freddy was online
    with his putts.  Uncle Payne just came through again.
    
    bob
    
995.5Paine was needlin the Zinger... huh?INDEV1::SMITHI need two of everything...Mon Nov 29 1993 19:5114
    
    ya... Couples pulled off a few looooong putts to take potential
    $$ and skins out og Palmer's pocket. Arnnie had a few chances,
    but missed the putts when he needed them. The Zinger never really
    had a clear cut chance for a skin... that I saw... but I didn't see
    it all. Paine played great, and Fred played equally good at times,
    but did loose a couple of shots.. where he ended up picking up.
    
    I missed Daly... would have been much more interesting with him out
    there... especially since this was a short course.. They were shooting
    for the green on more than one PAR 4.... from the tee! I think Daly
    would have lucked into some fine long shots... and taken some skins.
    
    		Smitty
995.6Time to cancel it...CHRLIE::HUSTONTue Nov 30 1993 11:1017
    
    Basically I think it is time to cancel the skins game. This years
    was BORING, they need personalities out there. Stewart was the
    only one with potential for fun talk. Azinger and Freddie, though
    excellent golfers, are to quiet for a thing like the skins
    game. As for adding Arnie in for Daly. Nice try, but he was outclassed,
    I thought he was gonna hurt himself he was swinging so hard off the 
    tee. I do feel bad for him being shutout, but them's the breaks.
    
    They need players with character to play up to the camera and give
    each other a fun/hard time to make this worth watching. Daly may have
    added some fun to it, but I still don't think he has the personality
    to pull it off. It takes the likes of people like Chi Chi, Trevino
    etc to get the crowd going.
    
    --Bob
    
995.7MROA::VARLEYTue Nov 30 1993 13:026
    Bob, I agree. I grew up watching Arnie - I loved the guy - but having a
    64 year old guy in this thing makes no sense. He played well, but
    there's no percentage. Plus, I hated the golf course - only watched a
    few holes.
    
    __Jack
995.8makes those putts REALLY worth something!!!AIMHI::CORRIGANTue Nov 30 1993 13:267
    
    I agree with the last couple and have a solution to make it a lot
    more fun to watch. Make them play with their own money. Not much
    joking around but a heck of a lot more enjoyable (for us, anyway!)
    
    
    Joe
995.9Would have been nice for Arnie to get at least a skin.NACAD::NISKALAWhen will it all end?Tue Nov 30 1993 13:516
    	I think Daly would have fared miserably on Big Horn. He hits long
    but how often does he hit the fairway or relatively close to it? This
    was target golf as they stated and I think most of the targets long
    John would have been hitting would have been cacti!
    	The Seniors Skins will be more enjoyable with Chi Chi and Trevino
    to spice things up in spite of Nicklaus and Floyd...
995.10dollars and senseUSPMLO::DESROCHERSTue Nov 30 1993 13:549
    
    	Makes no sense?  Maybe not to us, but to IMG who put the event
    	on and also just happens to manage Arnie...
    
    	Their own money - even alot less - would be great!  I'm sure
    	there are 4 guys out there would sign up.
    
    	Tom
    
995.11FREE::GOGUENIs it spring yet?Tue Nov 30 1993 14:125
    I don't think Chi Chi is playing the Senior Skins this time around. 
    Thought I remembered seeing Arnie among the cast, with Trevino,
    Nicklaus, and Floyd....
    
    -- dg
995.12needs fun playersTPTEST::MOOKWhere are you between two thoughts?Tue Nov 30 1993 15:3715
I agree that it has gotten boring.

In the beginning years it seemed like a big deal when one of them had a putt or
made one for 6 figures but now with all the money out there on tour, its lost
its charm.  Plus these guys are gabillionares anyway, they don't need the money.
I think charities should be getting all of it instead of %20.

The only thing that will save this event is if they invite 'fun' personalities.
Get rid of the senior event also and have 2 players from that tour play with
2 players from the regular tour.  Ideal foursome:
Chi Chi, Trevino, Fuzzy, Jacobson.

fwiw,

Bob
995.13ICS::SOMERSTue Nov 30 1993 16:5312
    re -.1
    
    Well, Arnie must be a lot of fun to play with, and he is fun to root
    for, but he was definitely outclassed by the younger golfers.  The
    problem is that the perfect skins player must not only be a "fun"
    golfer, he must be a "big" name (sorry Peter Jacobson), play with a lot
    of passion/emotion, and be a risk taker to really make it interesting.
    
    My vote for the ideal skins group would include: Norman, Seve, Fuzzy,
    and probably Woosman.
    
    Gary