Conference 7.286::golf

Before I bought my TAs about a year ago, I demoed Pings, Wilson Staff,
and Hogan Edge (I think?).  Since I am an intermediate player (I play
about bogey golf right now), I felt that they gave me the best overall
feel and performance, especially on off-center hits.  I picked them
over the Pings because I felt (1) the Pings swung a little light, and 
(2) the Pings were not responsive enough (they didn't have enough
feel).  I picked the TAs over the Staff and the Edge because I didn't
think I could hit the sweetspot enough to do these clubs justice.

I don't have a TA putter.

Anthony

    I bought the 845's last year for most of the same reasons as re:1.
    I was playing a very old set of Staffs and couldnot hit the sweet
    spot as consistently as I would have liked.  I find these clubs
    very responsive and I did not notice a change in distance that may
    come with a different sweet spot but I am a big hitter anyway. 
    I love these clubs.  I also swung the EQL's that felt real good
    also but the same length thing looks good on paper but I haven't
    seen it practiced so I shyed away.  For what it is worth the 845'S are
    featured along with a few other clubs in the most recent PLAYBOY.
    
    I HAVE A RESPONSE PUTTER
    GEORGE

Re: -.1

>	For what it is worth the 845'S are
>	featured along with a few other clubs in the most recent PLAYBOY.

	That is one straight line that is hard to pass up, but I think I
	better let it slide.

	Larry

    who can give me the price in the USA for : 
    
    	a. a normal set TA 845 silver scot 
    	b. TA 845 silver scot B/C and graphit-shaft
    
    christoph 

    
    I am a believer... I decided to try a set of the Tommy Armour clones
    just to see how they felt (I love trying new clubs/styles to try to
    help my head game any ways). I think they have a great feel. The first
    round I tried them (just nine holes) the wife and headed over to the
    course late on Sunday afternoon, I just took the newly made irons and
    no woods. I couldn't beleive the results, I shot a 37 (one over). I
    hit them just about the same distance as the set that I was using so there 
    much problem knowing what club to use. 
    
    BTW, if anybody is thinking about getting a set of the Armour clones, to
    save some money and not have to pay for the name, do it soon or you will 
    be out of luck. Tommy Armour is cracking down, once current supplies of
    clones are sold there will be no more, they can not manufacture any
    more of the Tommy Armour 845 clones...
    
    Enjoy
    Gene
    
    

    Gene,
    Where can these clones be purhased?What do they call these clones?
    and how much can I expect to pay for them?
                                                   RICK

    Anybody using a ZAAP putter ?  I tried one out in the pro shop with
    (for me :-}) remarkable results. 
    
    Are they worth $90 or so, or are they just another nice-looking, nice
    feeling putter ?
    
    Cheers
    
    John
    

    I just got one - used it 6 rounds.  I *HATED* it for the first 5
    rounds.  But I kept practicing at night on the carpet. (Putting, that
    is!)  Finally - after changing my grip and ball placement - got it
    figured out.  10-footers are now gimmes...
    
    I won mine in a tournament, so yes, it's worth what I paid for it.  My
    thought is that if you switch putters alot, it may be too much money. 
    But if you're like me - it's only the 2nd putter I've ever had - then
    give it try.  Confidence is 97% of putting.
    
    Good Luck,
    
    Steve

    Thanks Steve....
    
    Cheers
    
    John
    

    re: .7
    
    I bought my ZAAP about a year ago and happy with it. Although like .8,
    I wasn't too thrilled about the result for the first 4-5 rounds. The 
    reason I bought it was I'm very happy with my 845's and my 8802 was
    starting to give me problems so I decided to give ZAAP a try.
    
    To me, it's worth the price.
    
    Regards

    Anyone know where the name ZAAP originated?

    re: -1
    
    > Anyone know where the name ZAAP originated?
    
    Zero Angular Acceleration Putter.
    -    -       -            -
    

I recently have been trying to get a Tommy Armour 845 1-iron.  
I ordered one with a regular shaft from Nevada Bobs' in Westboro, Mass.
and they recently called and said they could only get the stiff shaft.  
Do they make the 845's with a regular shaft?  If not, I think I
would rather get something else with a more whippy feel to it.
Any recomendations?
John

    Try Wayland CC. They also have a lot of 1 irons.

    There are a few excellent Tommy Armour clones on the market. You can
    have your favorite clubmaker put whatever shaft on it you might prefer.
    Pro-fit in Alfaretta, GA, is the group I buy mine from although they
    want to sell a complete set of heads. There is another outfit in N.J.
    who I just ordered 2 5-iron heads from but haven't received it yet. I'm
    expecting it to arrive today or tomorrow. I won't be able to comment on
    the quality for some time. The ones from Pro-fit are excellent.

    Every one Iron I've looked at had a stiff shaft on it. I think it's
    because of the length of the shaft and maintaining control. I  might
    ask a few more people about this before having one built with a reg
    shaft.
    
    /Mark

I'd be happy to hear more opinions about this.  I've been
reading that for beginners such as myself it's better to
stay away from stiff shafts.  Is it true that a one iron
should be an exception?
John

    
                                                          
    A stiff shaft for a 1-iron is good idea in that
    you want to be able to hit the ball straighter. A regular shaft will
    accentuate a hook or fade swing outcome.
    
    One thing to remember about 1-irons. Because of the low loft, you will need 
    to be able to generate good clubhead speed with a reasonably upright 
    swing plane to get the ball up very well. 
    

    Has anyone seen the new 857's?  They look pretty good on the
    commercials but I was wondering if anyone had examined them close
    enough to give us a review/comparison to the 745's.
    
    I think the number is correct, if not, please correct me.
    
    thanks 
    john

    
    re: .-2  reasonably upright swing plane
    
    	how can you do that with such a long club?
    
    /jim
    

    re: Jim
    
    For an upright swing plane:
      1) Stand more upright and closer to the ball
      2) Move the hands in closer to the body
      3) Move feet closer together

re:<<< Note 954.18 by CPDW::LACAIRE >>>

    
                                                          
>>    A stiff shaft for a 1-iron is good idea in that
>>    you want to be able to hit the ball straighter. A regular shaft will
>>    accentuate a hook or fade swing outcome.

One of my goals in life is to hit the ball straighter. :-|  
But I keep reading in these golf magazines about how stiff
shafts are really only for good players and high handicappers
should use regular shafts because they're more forgiving.
By this I assumed that they help you hit the ball straighter.
Not true?

    Beginners should not be messing with a 1-iron. It's too difficult a
    club to hit. Try a 5 wood or one of those Callaway 7-woods. You can get 
    those with a regular shaft (which you probably want as a beginner
    unless you are very strong and/or can generate a fast clubhead speed). You 
    will be able to get those airborne easily and use them from the rough.

    
    	re: - a couple back.
    
    	The new clubs are the 855's. Up to this year Armour had the 845's.
    
    	Haven't seen the 855's, love the 845's.
    
    		Jerry
    

    
    Got my 855's six weeks ago, after hitting Taylor Made "Midsize" for a
    year. The Tommy Armours are the best clubs i've played, great feel and
    from 7 iron to wedge deadly.