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Conference 7.286::golf

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Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
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629.0. "Golf safety (CPR)" by MPGS::LEVESQUE (The Dukes a DINK!) Tue May 30 1989 17:32

    
    
    
      A few weekends back, I was playing golf with an older gentleman
    (68 years) and he suffered a massive heart attack on the seventh
     green. There was no sign of trouble through the first seven holes.
     He was big and healthy like an OX. Never had any heart trouble
     in his past either. The Doctors said it was just one of those
     flukes.  When this happened I was standing a few feet from John
     when he looked at me and said "Brian I'm going to pass out" It
     didn't click right away util he fell at my feet face first. I
     rolled him over and started CPR right away. Between every breath
     I screamed for help!! I was in a panick, he was so big (chest wise)
     I could barely get any pumping action going. I never thought it
     would be so hard to do. In the CPR course its easy as pie. In real
     life its scary as hell. Luckily a EMT playing the second hole came
     after about three minutes and took over. He proceded to crack Johns
     rib cage pumping so hard. Then after about 5-6 minutes a doctor
     show and started to help. The ambulance came about twenty minutes
     later. The first ambulance had no shock devices on board so a second
     one was called. After about an hour of trying they took John away
     and pronounced him dead at the hospital. The doctors said he was
    really dead when he hit the ground. I'm glad I took the CPR course
    because it gave me a little hope at the time. Its something I'll 
    never forget and hopefully never experience again. I just thought
    this note might get more people into these courses. Golf gets you
    out in the middle of now where alot and help is not always close
    by. You may save someones life. There were several golfers standing
    around the green not one knew CPR. 
    
    Brian
    
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629.1It's well worth the timeCHRLIE::HUSTONWed May 31 1989 17:3614
    
    I'll second the recommendation for CPR, though I have never used it, I
    think it is a good idea, anyone who does any activity any distance from 
    a phone should know it, this include hiking, camping, fishing, hunting
    swimming (especially if kids are involved), golf etc.  Any strain could
    cause a supposedly healthy person to go down.  CPR could be the only 
    thing that saves their life.  DEC offers the course in some locations, 
    it is short (3 days, 2 hours a day) and you are certified.  Renewable
    every year.  It's worth the time.
    
    --Bob
    
    P.S. Brian, good job on the attempt, you at least gave him a chance.
    
629.2sorry to hear about your friend16BITS::ARMSTRONGThu Jun 01 1989 16:4110
    Wow! Pretty scarey to think that nobody around you knew CPR. If
    I were there, I would have been part of the masses. 
    
    Some of the people I have golfed with don't even look as healthy
    as it sounded like the unfortunate man who suffered from the heart 
    attack looked; I think next time the CPR course is offered, I will
    sign up.
    
    What you did was very admirable. A situation like yours would put
    many people in a panic, even if they did know CPR.  
629.3The coverage by RC may have changed since WORDS::NISKALARob Murphy=Tim Lollar:FireStarterThu Jun 01 1989 17:1414
    	I should probably go and get recertified for cases like that.
    I took the CPR course back at NIO in the early 80's but didn't go
    back for recertification when expired. I'd probably remember the
    basics on how to do it, (pressing down on the chest, 3 fingers above
    base of sternum) and then applying mouth-to-mouth and alternating
    between processes, but better to KNOW the correct way. BTW, if you're
    certified to administer CPR the Red Cross will cover you if the
    victim files suit against you for attempting to save their life.
    As mentioned, ribs get broken and folks have been sued for trying
    to save lives. (How ungrateful) If you're not certified, who knows
    your efforts could reward you with a lawsuit you may lose. Doesn't
    seem right.....
    
    							Keith
629.4Good Semaritan LawCHRLIE::HUSTONFri Jun 02 1989 13:0315
    
    According to the CPR course I took at ZK about a month or two ago there
    is a "Good semaritan Law" which protects you if you are certified.  As 
    long as you don't totally mess up the procedure, they can't touch you
    legally.  The instructor was sure of this in NH and almost positive in
    MA.  There is a catch though, in MA, if you are certified and in the
    area, you have no choice, you MUST attempt to save the victim.  In NH 
    you can decide whether or not to start.  Once you start you cannot stop
    except for a couple of reasons, remember, you are not qualified to 
    decide he can't be helped and stop.  If you are not certified, then
    you open yourself up to a major law suit, even if you save them.
    AS .3 mentioned, the Red Cross will back you and give you legal support
    if you are certified and someone tries to sue you.
    
    --Bob