Conference 7.286::golf

    If I had that set make up I'd swap between the 4wood and 1 iron....
    
    On courses where I needed to be accurate or on windy days I'd use
    the 1 iron and leave 4wood out...On wide open courses and not too
    windy I'd leave the 1 iron out....but everyone is different...
    I can't even hit a 1 iron...so it wouldn't do me any good anyway...
    

    I've been rethinking my position and figure that I'll put the five
    iron in and at the course (depending on which one I play) I'll make
    the decision. My thoughts now are that the course I'm playing tonight
    has only one sand trap on it. That's right, one. The owner doesn't
    like traps,Says they slow up play. Well it's his course. Anyways
    seeing as I don't play the sand wedge from the turf I'll probably
    opt to take the sand wedge out of the bag tonight. Tomorrow,
    (different course) I'll probably take the three or four wood out.I
    won't need the length from the turf.
    
    Tom
    
    Still interested in otherd ideas on this problem.

    I like .1's ideas!!!!!!!!
    
    Rick

    Tom,
    
    I would probably choose between the 2 and 3 iron to leave out. 
    My set only consists of irons and the one I use the least is the
    2.
    
    Stu,
    

Tom,

If I were in your shoes, I would take the clubs out of my bag depending on the
course I was playing.

My bag consists of driver, 4-wood and 1-9, PW, SW, putter.  I hit my 4-wood far
enough that a 3-wood would not make a big difference.  The reason I keep the 
4-wood instead of a 3-wood is for use in the rough.  I don't have as much
trouble hitting a 4-wood out of tough rough.

Mike

    
    
    Keep them both.
    
    Unless you plan on joining the tour, who's going to count and/or
    care.
    

    
    
    	RE: .6
    
    	Do you think that golf rules are only made for the touring pro,
    	I can't believe that people really think that way....!!!!!!!!!!
	It is one thing not to know the rules, but to just ignore them.!!
    	Come on..!!
    	

    	Keep all your clubs, but only carry 14 on any given day/round.
    Which 14 clubs you carry, may depend on the course you're playing
    and how confident you are or are not with a particular club.
    	For an example, I play a fade off the tee, and at times, when
    I'm not hitting the ball well, ( 99% of the time )  :-), it can
    turn into a slice.  If I'm playing a course that has either a lot
    of dogleg right holes, or a course that is very wide open, I will
    bring my driver, and toss out the 2 iron for the day.  But, if the
    course has a lot of tight fairways, or plays mostly to favor a player
    who draws or hooks the ball, I'll leave the driver out and hit 3-woods
    and 2 irons off the tee.  Other courses may play short and make
    the attraction to carry more than 2 wedges with you.
    
    Beak

    Don't carry more than the allowed 14!  You may forget to remove
    one before a match.
    
    Rick

    
     Gotta play by the rules! If you hit a sub-par round with more than
    the allowed number of clubs in your bag... or whatever may be the
    best round for you.... it would be tainted because you didn't play
    by the rules.
    
    It's the same as plpaying illegal balls, clubs, etc. Where do you
    draw the  line? - play by the rules!
    
    Smitty

>     Gotta play by the rules! If you hit a sub-par round with more than
>    the allowed number of clubs in your bag... or whatever may be the
>    best round for you.... it would be tainted because you didn't play
>    by the rules.

	Playing a sub-par round when you have too many clubs in your
	bag is impressive!  That means that you shot at least 5 under
	since the maximum penalty for too many clubs is 4 strokes! ;-)
	(After all rules are rules.)

	Larry

    As long as we are playing by the rules, how many people out there
    claim a mulligan sometime during their round. Or ala Bobby Jones,
    how many of us claim a penalty if the ball moves a tiny bit when
    it is addressed. He called that on himself and lost a championship
    by one stroke!! I play with few golfers with that kind of integrity.
    WHO CARES IF YOU CARRY AN EXTRA CLUB FOR A FEW PRACTICE ROUNDS TO
    SEE WHICH STICK FITS YOUR GAME BEST!!!!!
    
    THE MAD HACKER

    re: .12

>    WHO CARES IF YOU CARRY AN EXTRA CLUB FOR A FEW PRACTICE ROUNDS TO
>    SEE WHICH STICK FITS YOUR GAME BEST!!!!!
    
     I hope you aren't getting all worked up over this due to my comment.
     It was entirely tongue in check.  (Hope you didn't miss the ;-). )
     I agree while playing practice rounds who really cares how many clubs
     you carry.  At one point on vacation this spring I had 16 clubs in
     the bag.  I was trying out a new lob wedge & had just bought a new
     Taylor Made driver with a graphite shaft.  Because I didn't feel
     comfortable with it yet I also carried my other driver.

     However, before my partner in the golf league has a heart attack
     I have pulled my 2 iron & my steel shafted driver out for league
     play.  Because when you are playing in competition you definitely
     are expected to abide by the rules.

     Larry

    Does a ball retriever count?  So far in my golfing "career" it has
    proven itsself most useful.  Now if I could only hit my 3 iron that
    well. :^)
    
    -Alan-  Getting my heart started again.

    Re: .14

>    Does a ball retriever count?  

     It would be illegal if it did, since it has an adjustable shaft. ;-)
     Maybe we should start a new topic.  "How far do you hit your retriever?"

     Larry

    I'd put the ball retriever in the same class as an umbrella.  Neither
    are used for the purpose of striking at the ball.  (Are they? 8^) )  The
    ball retriever's sole purpose is to save the golfer a couple of bucks
    by salvaging otherwise unreachable and unplayable balls.  Therefore, I
    don't believe it should count as one of the fourteen.
    
    					Ron
    			(whose retriever has been the only reliable and
                         effective aspect aspect of my game)
    
    

    
     4 stroke penalty for playing with too many clubs! Wow... never
    knew that....Never had to worry about it..... :^).... I won't get
    into ball retrievers... not that I don't need one from time to time...
    but ... oh never mind..
    
    Smitty

re: .13
    
    No Larry, I wasn,t getting all worked up. It was just getting boring
    reading all these notes that were busting this guys chops for asking
    about carrying an extra club. If I am out playing for fun a lot
    of rules go on the shelf. If it is a tournament or there is a wager
    involved then it is a different story. I'm sure that I will get
    blasted by someone out there for not playing by all the rules all
    of the time but that's the biz!!
    
    

    	I'm not going to bust anybodies chops about how many clubs they
    bring each round, but I would like to ask a question.
    
    When you play a pickup game of basketball, do you count each layup
    as 3 points instead of 2?  When you go bowling for fun, do you toss
    4 balls instead of 3, or count a strike on 2 shots instead of 1?
    Probably not, because it wouldn't be the same sport.
    
    Beak

    rules are rules and we should all play by them....but in golf anyway
    you still have to hit the shots....and I don't care if a guy has
    10 clubs or 110 as long as he beats me hitting GOOD GOLF SHOTS.....
    
    now in a tourney well...you better play by the rules...!!!

     
    I could care less if anyone I play against has more then required
    clubs. I don't care if they have to bags. At the caliper of play
    I play at, and most people I play against, a few extra clubs isn't
    going to make a noticable difference if any. The only rules I'm
    concerned with are the rules that will give my apponent an advantage.
    Personally I try to follow all the rules. I'm not an expert at the
    game, so I'm not 100% clear on ALL the rules yet.
    
    Mike

    I knew someone would have to add their two-cents worth. By the way,
    we don,t roll three balls where I bowl. OH, I forgot its that
    candlepin junk. Layups count for three if you get to use your
    opponents foot to take off from. And since I carry thirteen
    clubs, the whole freaking argument is moot.
    
    THE HACK
    

    Hi,
    My bag has in it:
    1.Wilson 1200 irons that were purchased in 1973 and have #3~ PW
    2.Custom driver(wooden of course!)
    3.Wilson 1200 woods(driver,brassie and cleek)
    4.Sand iron that is a re-production of the old Spaulding dotted
      face
    5.Bulls-eye putter(sometimes replaced with a Nicklaus long job)
    
    Still keep thinking about more modern woods/irons, but truely get
    great results from these older Wilson 1200's.
    Tom