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Conference 7.286::golf

Title:Welcome to the Golf Notes Conference!
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Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2129
Total number of notes:21499

509.0. "League Play Formats" by DNEAST::STEVENS_JIM () Thu Jan 26 1989 13:46

    I've done several "dir/title=" and have not been able to find
    what I am looking for.
    
    Way up here in the Augusta, Maine, League, we play a 2 person
    team format. Each hole is worth 2 points, 1 point for low gross
    and 1 point for low team net.
    
    I have been tasked to find out how other leagues play for a possible
    change in our own format. 
    
    I once played in a league with teams made up of A,B,C and D players.
    Play would be A vs A, B vs B, etc.....Three points per match, low
    gross, low net and match play.
    
    Anybody have any variations of "Team" play they care to share ??
    
    Jim Stevens
    
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509.1Better with a team point...MSEE::KELLEYCustom clubs/club repairThu Jan 26 1989 15:0013
    
    The format that our league uses is the same as yours with the
    addition of low individual total for nine and low team total
    for nine (both net scores), making a total of 20 possible points.
    
    I have played in a league where the format was two man teams,
    but you were only playing for 1 point per hole for best net
    (there was no team point per hole).
    
    I prefer having the additional team point, it keeps both players
    in the match on every hole...

    Gene (who_hopes_this_snow_melts_fast)
509.2A point for low gross per whole???DSTEG::SOUZATANSTAAFLThu Jan 26 1989 15:3110
    
    	Gene,
    
    	Is it suppose to be one point for low team net and one point
    	for low GROSS???  The way I thougth we played last year was
    	one point for low team net and one point for individual low
    	net on the hole.  (ie Handicap taken into account for both 
    	points)  
    
    	Steve 
509.3Oooops...MSEE::KELLEYCustom clubs/club repairThu Jan 26 1989 16:1010
    
    Thanks for pointing that out Steve, I just reread the base note
    and noticed that one point was for low gross. In our league all
    points are based on low net, one point low individual net and
    one point for low team net per hole, plus the low individual
    total for 9 holes (net) and low team total for 9 holes (net)...
    
    My apologies for the confusion (I hope I got it right this time!)...
    
    Gene
509.4Old Standard with a TwistBOSTON::MURPHYDormieThu Jan 26 1989 18:5925
    Jim,
    
    One of the formats we tried at Polaroid that seemed to be effective
    also involved two-person teams.
    
    You played for three points per hole using net scores:
    
    		A1 vs A2 			1 point
    		B1 vs B2			1 point
    		Team A vs Team B Best Ball	1 point
    
    A total of 27 points possible and...
    	
    To alleviate the tendency to pad a handicap there was an incentive
    tied to your net score - if you were below or even par using your net score
    then your point total was unaffected but if you were over par using
    your net score then points were subtracted from your team total.
    It was very possible to have a negative point night. It did tend
    to keep people a little more honest about their handicaps since
    there was pain involved during the padding process.

    No system really works. The 'schemers' always manage to find a loophole
    and get the system to work for them against its design or intent.
    
    Good luck with your search (Hope to see you in July)!
509.5SA1794::TENEROWICZTFri Jan 27 1989 12:0410
    
    In the Springfield League we play for a total of 21 points per round.
    
    
    Two person teams. You play your apposition for one point per hole.
    With a two person team this adds up to a total per round of 18 points.
    The remaining three points and for Personal Low Nets and team low net.  
    
    
    Tom
509.6PSG GOLF LEAGUECHET::BEAUCHESNEMon Jan 30 1989 15:1610
    
    	The PSG League (Merrimack/Nashua) consists of two flights of
    seven two-person teams. Each week the teams play each other for 
    three points, total.  Whichever individual wins the most holes, 
    gets a point, whichever team wins the most holes get a point.  
    Halves get 1/2 pt.   This past year only 2-3 of 14 teams were out 
    of playoff contention (top 3/flight) before the final week.  Seems
    to work great, as long as the handicap system is fair.
    
    Moe
509.7BTO Different but funFROST::WILLIAMSLooking for a PitcherTue Jan 31 1989 18:4016
    
    Here in BTO we play a 4 person team format, with a series of points
    awarded for everyone.
    
    1/2  Point for a Double Bogey
      1  Point For a Bogey
      2  Points for par
      3  Points for birdie
      etc........
    
    Each player carries an "Average" based on the points he or she should
    get every week.  If everyone on the team hits their average for
    the week the team accumulates 18 points.
    
    Shane
    
509.8Good system IF....OBRIEN::KEVINCustom Clubs & RepairWed Feb 01 1989 16:3229
    
    RE: .7
    
    >> Each player carries an "Average" based on the points he or she should  
    >> get every week.  If everyone on the team hits their average for        
    >> the week the team accumulates 18 points.                       
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    Slight correction Shane.  Each PLAYER should accumulate 18 points.  Par
    on all 9 holes .eq. 18.
    
    This system is really aimed at the higher handicapped golfers.  It's 
    easier for a new(er) player to contribute to a team without the
    pressure of playing head to head.  When we were starting the league
    (Yes I once did play in the DEC league) we (the officers) were all 
    low handicappers (3 or 4) but we expected the average to be like 12
    or 13 (for 9 holes).  My feeling was that the league would never get
    off the ground if some people got a ton of strokes in a match and still
    got beat into submission.  So I proposed this quota system so that 
    everybody could contribute to the success of the team but nobody would
    have to take the heat of loosing a match 5 and 4.  As I said this is a 
    good system if the handicaps are high.  However it stinks for the lower
    handicaps.  At a 4 handicap I needed 7 pars just to break even then 2 
    bogies for 20 points.  That means I have to shoot around 38 all the
    time to help a team.  On those nights when I shot 42 or 43, I might
    as well have lost a match 5 and 4.
    
    This method of scoring is good IF you have the right makeup of players
    in the league.