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Conference 7.286::golf

Title:Welcome to the Golf Notes Conference!
Notice:FOR SALE notes in Note 69 please! Intros in note 863 or 61.
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2129
Total number of notes:21499

497.0. "Building a Course" by MDVAX1::TATER () Thu Jan 12 1989 02:00

    I've often dreamed of building my own golf course.  Now don't laugh,
    how many of you subscribers out there doodle and actually find yourself
    drawing a golf course?  What I have detailed below is the start-up
    cost for building a course.  I also have assumptions, since in each
    part of the country land and labor cost could vary.  I would appreciate
    any thoughts and recommendations before I sell a few shares of stock.
    
    Assumptions:	1.  Course developed on farm land with no trees.
    			2.  All purchases (i.e. land, trees, ect.) receive
    			    quantity discounts.
    			3.  All prices for building greens, laying turf
    			    and other items include labor.
    			4.  Course developed in Midwest, land is a little
    			    more inexpensive here.
                                
    
     				Start-up Cost
    
    	Land:  150 acres @ 6K an acre			$ 900K
    	Club House:  3,000 sq. ft.			  180K
    	Parking Lot					   40K
    	18 Greens @ 50K each				  900K
    	Trees:  30 per hole @ $30 x 18 holes		   16K
    	Bushes:  20 per hole @ $6 x 18			    2K
        Grass/Sod:  5K per hole				   90K
    	Sprinkler System:  3K per green			   54K
    			   5K per fairway		   90K
    	Lakes:  Dig out four lakes @ 10K each		   40K
    	Railroad Ties:  ala pete dye  100 per hole @ $3	    6K
    	Mowing Equip.:  (2) Green mowers @ 8K each	   16K
    			(2) Fairway Tractors @ 10K each	   20K
    	Equipment Barn:					   30K
    
    		INITIAL INVESTMENT			$2,384K
    
    Any Takers?
    
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497.1Need more takers!SLICER::REHORI'd rather be golfingFri Jan 13 1989 03:1814
    Count me in!  I've been dreaming the same thing for many years. As a
    matter of fact, I've already got dibs on 80 acres of land.  It's my
    father-in-law's now, but he's already made provisions to pass it along
    to my wife.  The only stipulation is that she not sell it for 10
    years.  In that amount of time a course can really start to mature.
    
    It'll be a few years before it's ours (f-i-l is 65), but I can wait.
    That should give you enough time to come up with the rest of the
    cash.  By that time we will probably need $20M.  Ah, keep dreaming....
    
    I'm still
    
    Rod SLICER::Rehor
    
497.3How much for a hole?FRSBEE::GARYTue Jan 17 1989 15:087
    re .0
    
    	I think you forgot sand.  Lots of sand.  It shouldn't cost too
    much, relative to everything else.  Of course, then you have buy
    big holes to put it into. :^)
    
    -Alan-
497.4jump right inHARLEY::DAVEit's tee time !!!Tue Jan 17 1989 15:493
    count me in
    
    Dave   who prays he'll hit the tri state mega bucks this weekend
497.5new Golf Course in Bradford, MAVICKI::SMITHConsulting is the GameWed Jan 18 1989 13:4914
       If anybody would like to see a Golf Course that's under
    construction, then I'd suggest that you checkout the 18 Holer
    that's being built in Bradford, MA for a cost of $15m
       note: this is the site of the old 9 Holer (Bradford Country Club),
    	    but they've hired a professional Golf Architect, bought
    	    more Acreage, and will be building/selling Single Family
    	    homes on the property! The front 9 is about 85% sculptured,
    	    the back 9 is about 35% sculptured, and the homes haven't
    	    been built. Rumor has it that the home prices start at $189k
    
    
    						see ya at the 19th.,
    								Bob
    
497.6WORDS::NISKALAHEY! Wheeeeere's the snow?Wed Jan 18 1989 16:195
    	You migh also want to journey over to Atkinson, NH and observe
    the new course being built. Nine holes ready for play in 90, and
    the other nine in 91. Also to have house lot in the development.
    It is being developed by Steve Lewis of Lewis Builders, Inc of
    Atkinson.
497.7Do It!DIXIE1::WESTCLGator GolferThu Jan 19 1989 18:4514
    My dream, too.
    
    Don't forget:
      Earth moving
      Tees (they cost almost as much as greens if done properly)
      Cart paths
      Practice area (150 acres is just about adequate, depending on
          terrain.
    
    Good luck.  You can do it if you REALLY want to.  I had a friend,
    recently deceased, who started 4 golf clubs in the area and personally
    designed and built them.  Two are now 18 hole country clubs and
    two are 9 hole clubs.  
  
497.8A ball park price...MSEE::KELLEYCustom clubs/club repairThu Apr 27 1989 12:288
    
    	There was a good article in the Lawrence Eagle-Tribune, this
    	past Tuesday (April 15th). It talked about the new courses that
    	are being built in the southern NH northern Mass area. It also
    	stated that you need about 125 to 200 acres of land and the
    	cost per hole is roughly $200,000...!

    	Gene
497.9Where? Where?SDEVAX::GRYGLIKWhen's our tee time?Thu Apr 27 1989 15:326
    So, Gene, according to the article, just WHERE are the new couses
    being built in Southern NH & Northern MA?  Public?  Private?
                                                        
    					Thanks,
    
    					Mike
497.10see 591...MSEE::KELLEYCustom clubs/club repairThu Apr 27 1989 15:424
    
    	RE: .9
    
    	Mike, take a look at note 591...