Conference 7.286::golf

    
    
    	Well it took quite a while... but I did FINALLY regrip my clubs.
    	I ended up getting the 1/2 cord grips. Just finding a store
        that had them in stock took forever. I ended up going to 
    	New England Golf Supply in Marlboro Ma. Nevada Bobs really
    	gave me the run around, telling me to come back in three weeks
    	and STILL not having the grips... when another Nevada Bobs did.

     What did NE Golf charge for the 1/2 cords, and how long did it
    take to get your clubs gripped ?
    
    __The Skoal Bandit

    I have been playing golf with my father now for about a year.  He
    decided to replace his clubs,  and I bought his original set off him. 
    He is happy with his new set but really misses the grips on his old
    set.  They are 'TACKY MAX' and seem to last very well.  He bought the
    clubs about 4 years ago when he was working in New Jersey.  We live in
    the UK and so far I have not been able to locate a supplier of such
    grips.   Having read this notesfile Neveda Bobs seems to be a good
    place to try,  but they have never heard of them over here.   Therefore 
    as a last hope I thought I would ask you guys for some help.
    
    Can anyone track down a supplier of TACKY MAX grips and let me have the
    details?
    
    
    It would make my fathers day if I could get these grips for him. 
    
    
    
		Yours hopefully !        Nigel Brown @USH LARVAE::BROWN_N

    Nigel,
      There are several supply houses here in the U.S. that carry
    the Tacky Mac line (hope it is the same). As there are several
    different styles in the line could you be more specific as to
    the design of the grips ? There are various colors, diameters,
    composition of materials, etc. that are available.
    
    Mad Hacker

RE:  .3

    You can order Tacky-Mac grips from any golf supplier.  I trade with

	Dynacraft Golf Products, Inc.
	71 Maholm Street
	Newark, Ohio    43055

	Toll free (USA):   (800) 321-4833
	Regular phone:     (614) 344-1191 or 1192
	FAX:               (614) 344-6174

	    Cat no	Description

	    10158	Men's Black Knurl
	    10258	  "   Brown   "
	    10658	  "   Grey    "
	    13158	  "   Black Oversize

	All have .580" core size and won't stretch very much.
	They are priced at $1.10 each except the oversize which is $1.20.

    Well,
    
    Thanks very much for all your help,  I have contacted Dynacraft and
    they are sending me a catalogue.
    
    
    I'll let you know if I have any problems !!
    
    Thanks again folks,
    
    Nigel

    I checked the grips last night and they are actually TACKI MAC.
    
    I guess TACKI MAC = TACKY MAC ?
    
    
    Nigel

    I lost connection while writing .8 so here goes again !!
    
    Yes Tacky=Tacki !!
    I was looking in the GOLFSMITH catalog and they offer several
    types of grips besides the knurled pattern. I will bring in the
    address on Monday as I forgot it today !!
    
    Mad HAcker

    
    Hi Everyone,
    
    	I would like to here from all those players that do not use
    	a glove... especially those that play golf in the New England
    	area. What brand of grips do you use? And why?
    
    	I tend to go through gloves quickly, mainly because I hate
    	when they get slippery due to wear/dirt. If I could find
    	a grip that I could use without a glove but still maintain
    	the same tacky feel... I'll save a bundle on gloves :) !
    
    	One type I tried already was full/half cord. I didn't like
    	the feel and the change it made in swingweight. I'd like
    	to use one of the "new" rubber models that claim great
    	results. Problem is there are so many to choose from...
    	any info would be much appreciated.
    
    	thanks  Walta

    Hi Walta,
    
       You want the Danny Edwards Royal grips. You can get these from Golf
    Day by mail order. Also, Golf Pride has come out with a similar tacky 
    rubber grip.
    
    -S.

   Walta, I use the standard rubber victory grips and have had no problems
  at all, even in the rain and late last year, I had plenty of opportunities
  to play in the rain.  Don't know the level of 'tackiness' that you want,
  but to me the Victories were fine.  No slips at all.  Just make sure that
  you replace the grips regularly, which for you may be 2-3 time during the
  year. Me? I only have to change 'em once a year.  8^(

   Since discarding gloves at the start of last year, my grip has become more 
  consistent and solid. No longer do I have to occasionally adjust for glove 
  wear.  The 'feel' of club to hands remains constant.  Hope that came out 
  right. Anyway, not only did the no glove experiment net me a more solid 
  grip, but saved me money as well.
    
    Good luck in finding what you want!
    
    -rick

    
    Hi Rick,
    
    	KNowing the way you can smoke the ball, I'm surprised the 
    	victory grips have sufficed.. I use them now, and when I
    	play without a glove and there's some moisture , it's
    	gets scary . I feel as though I may helecopter my driver
    	into the tree tops ! :) But when they are dry, they do feel
    	just right. 
    
    	If I have to grip the club any more than what will keep
    	my wrist relaxed... my swing becomes stiff and I try
    	to muscle the ball. You've seen me play when that happens,
    	and it's not pretty ! Without a smooth wrist release I'm
    	a bogie golfer.
    
    	So the tackyness I'm looking for , is such that I can still
    	maintain a relaxed control. It maybe that it's not possible
    	without going to a glove? It's all new info to me... I've
    	never really experimented with grips.
    
    
    	One thing just crossed my mind... I wonder if stickum is legal?
    
    	thanks  Walta

    Walta
    
    I have Tacky-Mac grips and they work well without a golve.  I haven't
    used a glove for years.  Started when I saw Freddy not using one.  Then
    just kept at it when my last glove wore out.  I have found it creates
    some calouses, but what the heck.
    
    Along the same line, an intersting discovery I made while playing thru
    a monsoon recently.  Gloves get wet and they make it more difficult to
    play in the rain.  I devised a method for playing in rain that works.
    
    Bear with me, because this sounds strange, but trust me, I have tried
    it in California, Michigan and Florida.  When playing in the rain:
    
       Keep bag(clubs) covered as much as possible.  Starting with a semi dry
       club is better.
    
       Collect from the men's (or ladies room) a quantity of the paper hand
       towels.  Keep them stashed so they stay dry.
    
       One towel usually lasts for two or three shots, just wrap it around
       the grip, the little bit of moisture will keep it from slipping, and
       you have created a thin,dry surface.  When done with the swing,
       unwrap the towel and put it in a dry spot(inside coat, etc.)  Seems
       odd, but this works better than gloves and all the towels you can carry
       plus the towels are easy to carry and keep dry.
    
    SCD

    
    reply -3 ish
    
    	Hi Steve,
    
    		After the show you and Andy put on in last years
    	Challenge Cup... in the cold/rain at Shattuck Inn. I'd say
    	you rank as an expert in the area ! What did you guys end up
    	shooting 8 under? 
    
    	I looked through the Golf Day magazine and saw the Royal Grips
    	you spoke of. I think I'll give them a shot. 
    
    	Thanks 
    
    
    	Reply -1
    
    	Hi SCD,
    
    	That's a unqiue way of handling the wet weather... it also
    	explains the reason why their are never any paper towels
    	in the mens room at golf courses ! :)
    
    	Seriously though, I can see this will work out pretty well
    	when you are carrying your own clubs. The extra weight of all
    	the wet towels normally used really adds up. Even if you
    	use the technique of hanging the towel under the umbrella
    	it still gets wet rather quickly. Paper towels are alot lighter.
    	
    
    	thanks for the tips;
    
    	Walta

    I had my clubs regripped last year to Avon Chamois grips. Now, I can't
    imagine using another grip. They wear well (little), very soft to the
    touch, feel good, and still play well when damp. 

     
    I regripped mine with  the  relatively  new  Victory dimple half-cord
    grips.  To me  these  grips  feel  great.  The top part is softer and
    provides better grip than green Victories  and  the half cord does it
    job well also.  But with cord the gloves go faster and keep the moist
    more than no-cord, so it's not as good when it gets wet.
    
    On the glove side, I got in Nevada Bob's  a  synthetic  glove made by
    Etonic (about $10).  I have  play with it about 6 times and so far it
    feels great.  I doesn't seem to  wear  as  quick  and it stays tacky.
    But I have only played it in cold  dry  weather,  so  I still have to
    test it wet.
    
    FWIW
    Tavo
     

Use leather - They are very expensive but - You never ever have to regrip and
therefore are more cost effective than any kind of synthetic so long as you keep 
the clubs for five or more years. Use top quality calfskin, costs 15$ each, and 
they will not wear where you grip the club. No need for gloves. No need to hold
tight in rain, summer humidity, winter cold, your own tension sweat etc...
They simply do not feel slippery under any conditions.

I really mean you never have to regrip even if you don't bother to wash the
grips which you absolutely must do with synthetics once a week if you are to
prevent the chemical reaction from your body salts from making the synthetics
slippery.

I find this subject interesting because intuitively you would think
the synthetics, like rubber, would be best, but because of the chemical reaction
to you sweat and the lack of durability compared to leather. 

    Anyone using the new Edwards Royal Grips, synthetic, but with a much 
    improved tackier grip.  
    
    They are the closest leather simulators I've seen yet.

    
    	Reply -1,
    
    	Hi Phil,
    
    	  Too late for me to change to leather... Ray Karkman just
    regripped my clubs for me. I ended up getting Tacki Mack grips.
    GolfWorks didn't have the Royal Grips in stock.
    	
    	I also went to an oversized grip. It cost me around 1/2 a swing
    	weight... due to the extra material weight, but I really like
    	the new fit.
    
    	The Tacki Mack feel great. Can't say how they'll last (yet).
    
    	I thought of going to leather but my clubs are swingweighted
    exactly like I want them, and leather will cause a greater loss.
    
    	The way I change my mind, I'll probably be back next year
    	getting the leather grips ! :)
    
    	Walta

Walta

Thanks, I was wondering about the swing weight implications. Not sure my swing would notice
the difference.

						Regards Phil 

	I need some help with my grips.  I bought a set of clubs and ask
	the local pro to build up the grip to fit my hands.  I noticed that
	the grips were still too small.  The owner has informed me that there  
	is nothing he can do with the grips currently on the club.  He could 
	change the grip to a jumbo size grip but that still might be too small.
	I asked him about using leather strips, but he did not seem interested.

	I read in a golf magazine that Michael Jordan needed @17 wraps to 
	build up his grips to fit his hands.  I know it can be done, the 
	question is who and how much?  Can someone point me in the right 
	direction.

							Thanks,
							  Ken W

    You might want to look into the arthritic grips.  These are much larger
    than the normal grips, and can probably be built up to an even larger
    size.
    
    Gary

    victory has an oversized grip.

Building up my grips is the main reason I do my own regriping.  You can buy
the kit from anyone.  I was up to 8 or 9 wraps of masking tape but thats a 
pain.  I now use 1 or 2 layers of duct tape with a .58 or .60 bore grip.  The
.58 grip gives you the equivalent of an extra layer when put on a .60 shaft.

Ken V. is right, the proper grip makes all the difference,

Bob

    I put Rotal grips on my clubs at the beginning of the 1992 year.
    
    In the rain they became slick as ice. The club actually slipped
    out of my hands on a swing.
    
    They are coming off now that the year is pretty much over.
    
    An  expensive lesson.
    
    TOny
    AKOCOA::DICENZO
    

    Interesting, Tony ! When they first came out, the Royal grips were
    being touted as the best new wet weather grips going. I've never used
    'em, but I've held several, and friends of mine have 'em. It seemed to
    me that they WOULD be slick in the rain (contrary to the publicity.
    Since I'm a PR guy, I know most publicity is B^%&S%#@ anyway), although
    I'm sorry you found out the hard way.
    
    Watching the Skins Game yesterday, I was interested in the grips Greg
    Norman was using. They looked like a "furry" version of the old Golf
    Pride "cord line" grips. Now THEY looked like they'd be good in the
    rain...
    
    __Jack

    re: -1/-2
    
    I have the golf pride equiv. of the Royal grip and find it is
    outstanding in wet weather....!!! 

    ...Don't play in the rain with Royal Grips. Otherwise they
    are fine.  ...In a downpour this past fall I made a little extra
    energetic pass at a 4-wood on Stow South #16. The club was completely
    out of my hands halfway thru the downswing! I watched in amazement as
    somehow the club still struck the ball and it flew around 100yds up the
    fairway!

    
     I switched to the tour-wraps this year and will never look back. These
     grips are awesome! And... water is no problem!
     
     - Dave