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Conference 7.286::golf

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Created:Tue Feb 15 1994
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317.0. "BRITISH OPEN" by ILO::BLONG () Tue Jul 05 1988 12:22

    This topic is for your predictions of who will win the 1988 BRITISH
    OPEN.
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317.1SEVVYILO::BLONGTue Jul 05 1988 12:263
    I've got to go for SEVVY the most complete golfer in the world.
    SEVVY to win with LANGER WATSON AND KITE close behind.
    
317.2On home turfGAO::LLUNDYMIS Galway IrelandTue Jul 05 1988 12:5810

   Olazabal and Ronan Rafferty for a playoff with maybe a Yank third.


                             rgds

                             Leo


317.3I got the U.S. Open right, now I give you ....SA1794::WELLSPEAKCause you know that Time Fades AwayTue Jul 05 1988 14:274
    	I'll go with Sandy Lyle to win it, with some strong competition
    from both Greg Norman and Nick Faldo.  
    
                                                       Beak
317.4Might as well make another wrong guess!WORDS::NISKALAIt takes balls to play bocceTue Jul 05 1988 15:352
    	I'll go with Sandy Lyle. Faldo will be up there and look for
    Curtis to make a run for it. Is Norman going to be healed in time?
317.5A Biased Englishman - well slightlyCHEFS::NEWPORTPTue Jul 05 1988 16:3026
    I've got to agree with the suggestions so far. Royal Lytham 
    is not a course for the wayward, so any one whose game includes
    a high degree of accuracy stands a good chance.
    
    Nick Faldo - he hits the fairway more often than most and knows
                 how to win a Major following last year. My money was
                 on him last year and he didn't let me down. He won
                 French Open the week after Brookline, so he is not
                 short on confidence.
    
    Sandy Lyle - again knows how to win the big ones (that's a key
                 factor) and is playing solid golf. Once he gets the
                 one iron out the ball goes, so I don't see him needing
                 to risk the driver too often.
    
    
    Other tips:
    
    Mark McNulty - leading the European money list and I don't think
                   he's finished outside the top six this year. Also
                   there's not many better putters around.
    
    Rodger Davis - he's due a Major win after being up around the top
                   several times. Mr. Consistent.
    
    
317.6For what it's worth...GRANPA::KVENEZIOTue Jul 05 1988 20:334
    Another wrong guess? Well here's a long shot. Ian Woosnam. The best
    on the European Tour last year and after a slow start this year
    he seems to have found his game just in time for the Open. I'll
    pick Seve as my sentimental favorite.
317.7Bad luck continues...GOLFIN::RUBKEWed Jul 06 1988 20:083
    Greg Norman has withdrawn due to reinjuring his wrist. He is my
    perrennial (sp?) favorite.
    
317.8GOLF.. a nice walk - ruinedTRCO01::ROSSWed Jul 06 1988 21:0212
    How are the Lytham parking lots?  NOT PLAYABLE??  Seve can't win
    then.
    
    I was terribly wrong with a sentimental pick in the US Open, but
    that won't stop me from trying the same guess.
    
    TOM WATSON at last will break his jinx for his 5th British Open.
    
    If not, then Lyle.
    
    					Mark from Toronto
    
317.9"Zinger"ESPN::BLAISDELLIn a momentary lapse of reason...Fri Jul 08 1988 01:314
      Paul Azinger  hits the ball low doesn't he?  Yea..him with strong
      challenges from Lyle and Crenshaw.
    
    Rick_who_hope_tgo_two_for_two
317.10D.A. Weibring (sic)?CBS::BREENFri Jul 08 1988 19:019
    I will reverse my guess on US Open and say that there a group of
    Europeans all with a chance.  Lyle is the obvious standout.
    
    There is one "Yank" I like for a dark horse.  D. A. Weibring.  He
    has played his best in the past in majors including British Open
    and now appears consistent on the tour.
    
    And of course everybody's sentimental favorite Tom Kite who will
    surely make a stong showing only to find bad luck in the end.
317.11May the Queen be proud!MDVAX1::SCHULZSat Jul 09 1988 20:461
I go with Ian Woosnam.  May the queen be proud!
317.12May the best man win !!AYOV10::CAIRNSI don't hook, its a Power DrawMon Jul 11 1988 11:258
    
    Favourite : Sandy Lyle or Seve Ballesteros
    
    Outsiders : Mark McNulty or Rodger Davies 
    
    Watch out for : Barry Lane or David Frost
    
    
317.13A fewMSEE::KELLEYon_in_regulation, GRAPHITEThu Jul 14 1988 17:4913
    
    A few of the first round scores...
    
    Seve 	-4 finished
    Faldo	-3
    Koch	-3
    Faxon	-2
    Mize	-1
    Lyle	-1
    Azinger 	+1
    Crenshaw	+2
    Nichalaus	+4
    Strange	+5
317.14TV COVERAGEMAMTS1::KVENEZIOThu Jul 14 1988 20:464
    I believe ESPN or USA Network will carry rounds 1 and 2 live in
    the AM and tape at 7:30 PM EST for the enthusiast.
    Ken
    
317.15Tom's JinxDV780::BELLORThu Jul 14 1988 23:3310
    
    
    re: .8
    
    	Tom Watson has already won 5 British Opens. He shot a 74 in
    the opening round.  Curtis (The Great American Hope)Strange shot
    a 79.  Who will step forward the Americans?
    
    
    mike
317.16rapin rodneyHARLEY::DAVEwhere is my vette?Fri Jul 15 1988 17:092
    Rodney Dangerfield will step right up!
    
317.17Rockin' JackieMAMTS1::KVENEZIOFri Jul 15 1988 17:393
    ref  .16
    
    Rodneys been replaced by Jackie Mason.
317.182nd ROUND SCORESGRANPA::KVENEZIOFri Jul 15 1988 20:547
    2nd round scores:
    
    
    N.Price   -5 F
    Seve      -4 F
    Faldo     -2 F
    Stadler   -2 F
317.19LEADER BOARDILO::BLONGSat Jul 16 1988 10:2831
    LEADERS                                  NON QUALIFERS
    =======                                  =============
    PRICE       -5                             TREVINO
    SEVE        -4                             MIZE
    STADLER     -2                             DARCY
    FALDO       -2                             O'CONNOR JNR
    BEAN        -1                             SUTTON
    COUPLES     LEVEL                          JACKLIN
    LYLE        LEVEL                          CALCAVECCHIA
    TWAY        LEVEL
    
    OTHER SCORES
    ============
    NICKLAUS    +3
    ZOELLER     +4
    KITE        +4
    CRENSHAW    +4
    WATSON      +4
    AZINGER     +5
    GREEN       +5
    HAAS        +5
    PAVIN       +5
    WOOSNAM     +5
    STRANGE     +6
    LANGER      +6
    MILLER      +6
    PLAYER      +6    

    
   BRIAN
    
317.203rd ROUND SCORESILO::BLONGMon Jul 18 1988 08:4516
    SCORES AFTER ROUND 3
    ====================
    PRICE       -7
    SEVY        -5
    FALDO       -5
    LYLE        -4
    NELSON      -1
    ROMERO      -1
    POOLEY      -1
    BEAN        -1
    
    The third round was washed out on saturday and was played yesterday
    instead.The final round takes place today (monday).
    
    Brian
    
317.21THE WINNERMAMTS1::KVENEZIOMon Jul 18 1988 18:423
    If you would like to know the winner see note .22.
    For the element of suprise by VCR and TV, exit here.
    Ken
317.22The WINNER IS....MAMTS1::KVENEZIOMon Jul 18 1988 18:431
    Its    SEVE!!!!
317.23Ole'ESPN::BLAISDELLIn a momentary lapse of reason...Tue Jul 19 1988 16:3313
    
        Congratulations to ILO::BLONG for picking the winner.
    
        And a half a congrats to AYOV10::CAIRNS who picked Seve 
        in an either or.
    
        No doubt about it now.  It appears that Tony Jacklin was
        correct and the Europeans are the dominant golfers in the
        world. I think it's good to see. Will add a little more
        spice and interest to the Ryder Cup matches. It will be
        fun to root for the US players as underdogs!
    
    Rick
317.24Objection your honor!ENGINE::WARFIELDGone GolfingTue Jul 19 1988 16:5115
    
>        No doubt about it now.  It appears that Tony Jacklin was
>        correct and the Europeans are the dominant golfers in the
>        world. 

	Greg Norman is probably one of the top 4 golfers in the world.
	Last time I looked Australia was not in Europe.  There are also
	some good South African golfers that come to mind Price & Frost.
	I think that the standard of play in the rest of the world is
	finally reaching a par with the US.  Where do most of the best
	players in the world come to play? US  Where do US players who
	aren't good enough for the PGA tour go to get seasoning? Europe &
	Asia. ;-)

	Larry
317.25US showing not that badCBS::BREENTue Jul 19 1988 17:2114
    Of the top 24, 11 were Americans; 2 if you include Price were South
    Africans who are tour regulars living in US.
    9 were Europeans including 3 Spaniards.
    Plus Aoki, Japan and good old Bob Charles from New Zealand who
    occupies 3 categories: another hemisphere, a senior and a left-hander.
    
    Unlike last year I wouldn't call this British Open an American
    massacre.
    Two non Americans who were tops in the world prior to this year,
    Woosnam and Langer are not in the elite this year.
    
    Yes,4 of the top 5 in the world right now are Seve, Faldo, Lyle,
    Norman.
    I am encouraged about US chances in Ryder.
317.26"All the world's a ...golf course"ESPN::BLAISDELLIn a momentary lapse of reason...Tue Jul 19 1988 18:4623
      Whoops, forgot my silly winky smiley face with the "Europeans are
    dominant" comment.  I was hoping to get a rise out some people in
    here.  The comment was a sweeping generalization of the state of 
    the game today as compared to previous decades. Are the current batch 
    of European players as dominant as the Americans were, say...in the 
    70's ?  That's a fair question, and one that I would answer no. On
    the other hand, they certainly have been making their presence felt
    in the majors lately.

      Yes, Norman is Australian. Yes, he is a dominant player in the
    game today. Yes, I agree he should be ranked in the top 4, but if
    you are making gross exaggerations like I was, you ignore exceptions
    to the rule.  ;^)

      My top 5 list of world class players and their country(of origin):

             1)  Sandy Lyle               Scotland
             2)  Ballesteros              Spain
             3)  Norman                   Australia
             4)  Faldo                    England
             5)  Strange                  U.S.

-rick
317.27$'sRANGLY::FREEMAN_KEVIThe Squeeky Wheel = NeglectWed Jul 20 1988 11:327
    Would it be safe to say that one good reason more elect to reside
    here is due to a fact that there is more prize money in the US.
    Also if the European types have to play difficult courses most
    of the time like the tuffy one last week (how many bunkers?) I
    fail to see why one would NOT do so well on a plush course.
                                 
    Regards Kevin,
317.28The only winner is GolfRDGENG::JOHNSWed Jul 20 1988 15:3727
    
    Out of all the hullabaloo of the Open, what with Tony Jacklin trying
    to turn it into another Brits vs Yanks vs Rest of the World, and
    we are the best thing since "sliced" bread after the last two Ryders
    (forgetting the great Americans and rest of the world like: Nicklaus,
    Watson, Player, Trevino, Crenshaw, and all the "foreign oldies"),
    wasn't it just a wonderful last round of golf? Especially the last
    nine holes! Head to head - it really didnt matter who was playing for 
    which country!
    
    How many times all of us have been in a similar situation (albeit
    in somewhat considerably less grand occassions...maybe club medals
    or company day outs)....it was good, solid entertaining stuff! 
    
    Lets leave all the patriotic bull**it to football and other similar
    "sports" and just applaud those guys who went through the rigours
    of the British climate and provided us with 4/5 days of entertainment
    and sheer brilliance in the game we all love (and hate)! regardless
    of colour, country, race, etc. etc.
    
    Lastly, it was nice of Seve to acknowledge the runner-up (Price)
    which was a lot more than "our" hero Faldo did last year when he
    pipped Azinger for the title. After all, it is a gentlemans
    (gentlepersons?) game.
    
    Fore.............
    all kinds of weather 
317.29SHARE::HURLEYWed Jul 20 1988 15:487
    
    Does anybody have the final round on tape?  I forgot to set the
    timer on my VCR, and I didn't get home in time to watch it.  Sounds
    like a great final nine holes, and I'm kicking myself for missing
    it.
    
    Dave Hurley      
317.30Shafted againNUTLET::RUBKEWed Jul 20 1988 17:597
    I also heard that the last nine were terrific, but ABC only gave
    us the last four, and only half of 15 and 16. I guess they couldn't
    pre-emp the soaps for something as trivial as the Open. When I watched
    my tape, it was over before I really got in the mood for the drama.
    
    A disappointed viewer,
    Bob
317.31Lighten Up!ESPN::BLAISDELLIn a momentary lapse of reason...Thu Jul 21 1988 20:0816
.28>    Lets leave all the patriotic bull**it to football and other similar
.28>    "sports" and just applaud those guys who went through the rigours
.28>    of the British climate and provided us with 4/5 days of entertainment
.28>    and sheer brilliance in the game we all love (and hate)! regardless
.28>    of colour, country, race, etc. etc.
    
       Where did you read any MY country's players are better than
       YOUR country's players in these notes?  However, US TV coverage
       is another story.  Jim McKay for instance, repeatedly pounding
       it into our heads that it was the US vs. England in the US Open
       playoff.  Let's face it, patriotism stirs emotion, emotion stirs
       interest, interest begets more viewers, more viewers begets mega
       $$$ ....etc.  Some of us don't like it, but it's there!
    
    -rick_from_the_US_who's_favorite_player_is_the_shark