Conference 7.286::golf

         This cluster now has a cluster alias:

	 STKHLM  (or 51336 until your node databases get updated)

	 Not exactly  imaginative  -  I  guess  it  could  be interpreted as
	 STocKHoLM  -  our  system  manager  couldn't be accused of having a
	 sense of humour.

	 Please modify  your  entries  (MODIFY  ENTRY/FILE=STKHLM::GOLF)  to
	 reflect this change.

	 -- Mr Litby

    
    	Just a few rules/courtesies:
    
    	Please sign your entries (first name or nickname)...
    
    	If a note has been signed and you refer to it, please be personable
    	enough to refer to that person in your reply...
    
    	Please make an attempt to find an entry on a topic before starting
    	a new note...
    
    	DO NOT use ANY foul language not even with the use of * in place
    	of letters (ie. sh**, a**, etc...).
    
    	AND please register in note #61, particularly those people that are
    	regular contributors...
    
    	Thanks
    	Gene (with_moderator_hat_on)

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Note 850.0                      Conference Issues                        1 reply
PUTTER::WARFIELD "Gone Golfing"                      34 lines  21-JAN-1990 12:34
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Genes reply in another topic & a couple items that I had been thinking about
made me want to start a new topic to discuss conference issues.

Re: Copied from 844.39
    
>    	Ta, would you prefer that we just delete all old notes and replies?
>    	What is the point of having this wealth of info being stored here
>    	if nobody wants to do a little looking to find it...?!
    
	If someone is new I like to point them to the note.  A reminder that
	a DIR/TIT may solve their problem is reasonable.  If you've looked
	and can't find a topic you should mention that in your note.

>    	What are other peoples thoughts on this matter? Should I/we just
>    	go ahead and delete every entry earlier than Jan. 1st, 1990? or
>    	leave things as they are and try help direct people to the info?
>    	OR...?
    
	Definitely leave old topics that have some lasting value.  For
	example I refer to the various vacation trip reports when traveling.
	Notes about what courses are open loose there value over time.

>    	While I'm on the subject of conference issues, should I continue
>    	to try to keep all related topics in one note? or just let people
>    	start endless numbers of notes dealing with topics that there is
>    	allready a note for?

	I like it when you do that.  One suggestion, please don't gang them
	up in one note.  DECwindows pulls over the hole note before letting
	you start to read the note.  I just pulled up driving ranges and
	waited several minutes on a snowy Sunday afternoon before I could
	continue.

	Larry

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PUTTER::WARFIELD "Gone Golfing"                      12 lines  21-JAN-1990 12:41
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The last item I wanted to mention was that the tone of the conference has seemed
to gotten more contentious and less collegial.  A couple of other noters have
also expressed that to me.

One of the best things about golfing is the friends and the atmosphere of 
struggle against a common opponent (the course).  Yes, we compete with each
other, but we compete foremost with ourselves.

Is it just me or do others feel the same way?

Larry

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Note 844.43                   Enlightenment needed.                     43 of 44
BOGUSS::COOPER "MAD HACKER"                           7 lines  19-JAN-1990 16:11
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    Gene, also forgot to mention that I for one like to be
    able to look back through the old topics as I have had a
    tendency to ask some questions here that have already
    been well thrashed. It is always nice to get a reply to
    your question along with the referral to past topics
    though.
    THE MAD HACKER

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Note 844.44                   Enlightenment needed.                     44 of 44
SA1794::WELLSPEAK "everything must be this way"      22 lines  22-JAN-1990 09:45
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    	First off, Gene you're doing a very good job as moderator. 
    Don't change what you've been doing.  Having one topic about a
    particular subject is the best way, as oppossed to letting people
    write new topics about a subject that currently has a discussion
    going on in another topic.  Some people don't like to read thru
    numerous replies that are already entered, to find an answer to
    their question.  Well, if everyone felt the same way, and just created
    another topic to get an amswer, we'ld have 25,000 topics with 100
    replies in each.  Iy just becomes to unmanagable.
    	Second, about swingweight.  I know what it is, and I know about
    how it get's measured.  What I don't know is what one is right for
    me, and why it's right.  What I mean is, I've had knowlegable golf
    people tell me, that if your pusing the ball right and/or slicing,
    then you need a lighter swingweight so the clubhead won't lag behind
    your swing and be open at impact.  I've had other knowlegable people
    tell me just the opposite, and recommend a heavier swingweight to
    compensate for this problem.  I also know, the speed of your swing
    has some determination to your ideal swingweight.  Can anyone give
    me a good description of how to choose a swingweight that is suited
    to you?
    
    Beak

    Gene,
    
    I too like the organization you provide as moderator. It's true
    that it can be cumbersome to search for an answer, but I don't
    think old messages should be deleted, as many of them offer
    very useful information. Also, you sound like a very nice person
    and seem to go out of your way to provide full and complete
    answers to the questioning.
    
    Regarding the point made back a couple of replies ago, I think
    by Larry, about a somewhat less than friendly tone. I feel that
    way too, sometimes. I hesitate to reply to many notes for fear
    that I might get blasted. But I think Gene does a fairly good
    job at not letting things get too out of hand, and there are
    many noters here who seem to want to make an effort to get 
    things back on a friendly track.
    
    Another point: I think the tone tends to be very technical,
    especially during these winter months when many of us can't
    PLAY because of winter weather. All that technical jargon
    tends to be intimidating to we less-than-technical golfers
    who LOVE to play, but can't really offer much to the technical
    discussions. I'll admit that some of it is interesting, and
    I try to learn from it, but most of it goes right over my head.
    Some of the arguments (or maybe debates would be the better
    word--I don't mean arguments in the negative sense) against
    club fitting and specs etc, and in favor of "sound fundamentals"
    may be related to the point I'm trying to make here.
    
    At any rate, I wouldn't keep up with this notesfile everyday
    if I didn't enjoy it. I appreciate all your efforts, Gene.
    
    Patti

**DIGITAL INTERNAL USE ONLY **
    
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                 Message from Ron Glover Corporate Personnel     OCT 1990
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    Over the last several months Digital has been contacted by a number
    of individuals and business entities that were angry about negative
    comments made about them in our Notesfiles and Conferences. As the
    Personnel Policy Manager for Digital I have been the recipient of
    many of those notes. I thought I should take the time to post this
    note to inform employees that it is not appropriate for them to make
    negative comments or references about any person or business entity
    in any of Digital's employee interest notesfile or conferences.

    There are several reasons why we are establishing this rule. The
    first has to do with fundamental fairness. It is simply not fair for
    an employee to make a negative comment about a business when we
    don't provide those businesses an opportunity to respond and defend
    themselves. This is particularly true given the fact that we have no
    way of determining whether the comment is honest, fair or accurate.
    Clearly Digital has no intention, or desire, to open up its
    notesfiles to third-party businesses so that they can engage in a
    debate about whether they provide quality services. The only logical
    solution then is to ask our employees to refrain from using the
    Notesfiles to air grievances they have with individuals, vendors, or
    organizations.

    In addition to out concerns about fairness, we are concerned about
    the potential damage that these kinds of comments may cause to
    third-party businesses. In that regard, employees should understand
    that they may be personally liable if the statements they make cause
    harm to any person or business. Moreover, there is some possibility
    Digital may be held liable for such comments as well. Stated more
    simply, comments made in a Notesfile or conference are in no way
    privileged or immune from claims of liable, slander or defamation.

    We are asking all of the users of Notesfiles to exercise discretion
    and judgement in the comments that they make in the system. We are
    also asking moderators to go back and review the notesfiles they
    moderate and to remove any notes that include derogatory references
    to third-party businesses.

    Please feel free to contact your moderator if you have any questions
    on this subject.

    Ron Glover
    Corporate Personnel Policy Manager

    re: .21
    
    This is not what it appears to be.  To wit:
    
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Note 226.124      explicit evaluations of products and services       124 of 124
DR::BLINN "A few bricks shy of a load"               43 lines  25-OCT-1990 13:44
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        I haven't had a chance to talk to Ron, but when I got a copy of
        the memo early last week, I forwarded it to him, pointing out that
        it has resurfaced.  Since I've helped corporate security try to
        trace "problems" in the past that involved MAIL and Notes, I am, I
        guess, perceived as "knowledgeable" in these matters.  Anyway, I
        got a call yesterday from Richard Seltzer, from Corporate Employee
        Communications.  Ron had talked to him, and when I talked to
        Richard this morning I got the distinct impression that Ron is
        very concerned about the wide distribution the "hoax" version of
        his memo is receiving -- not because of the suggestions it makes
        about reasonable behavior, but because it is being represented as
        a new corporate policy on Notes, a "mandate" or "regulation", if
        you will.  Ron is an incredibly reasonable person, and it would
        not be his style to create a new policy (like this is alleged to
        be) by administrative mandate.  Further, since he is manager for
        corporate personnel policies, he is sensitive to the issues.
        
        I think Bob's note in FOLK_MUSIC is superb (but then, Bob and I
        are old friends and I value his judgement).  It states a very
        reasonable analysis of the problem and reasonable guidelines for
        personal behavior.  It doesn't attempt to "chill" discussion by
        placing strict bounds on expression, but rather encourages open
        sharing of opinions with respect for the feelings of others.
        
        I can't speak for Ron or Bob, but I think wide adoption of the
        guidelines Ron recommended in his original memo is reasonable, and
        that Bob's additional thoughts further clarify what I believe was
        Ron's intent.  I would encourage moderators to use Bob's and Ron's
        thoughts as the basis for setting policies in their conferences,
        but discourage anyone from claiming Ron's original memo stated a
        new "corporate notes policy".
        
        I suspect we will see some follow-up on this within the next few
        weeks.  I suggested to Richard Seltzer that Ron could notify all
        the corporate personnel staff that the recent circulation of the
        memo did not originate with him, and is not a new corporate policy
        on Notes.  I hope he will do this.  I also suggested that posting
        an explanation on LiveWire would assure that it got visibility in
        many quarters.  (For example, I would expect it to be copied into
        VNS almost immediately, and posted in conferences where Ron's memo
        had been posted.)  We can only wait and see what will happen.
        
        Tom
    

    
    RE: .22
    
    Thanks, 
    
    .21 was not posted as if it were a new policy or anything of the
    like. I posted it as an FYI message... Hope this is clear to all.
    
    Gene

    
    	I just created new keywords for the conference. I hope
    	this will be of help in finding notes on specific topics
    	(please try to look for an existing note on a topic before
    	 you open a new note). I also changed the titles to
    	several notes so that they would be of more help in determining
    	the content of the note...
    
    	Happy noting
    	Gene

	Welcome to the Golf Notes file on KOOZEE located on the scenic
	shore of the Asabet River in Maynard, MA, USA.  To paraphrase
	the tradional introduction of US Open pairings, "Note away, please."

	Larry

Our cluster has been upgraded, it now has a cluster alias (EMDS), so you
probably want to modify your notebooks to reflect this.  Planned down time
should be minimal until we merge in a new group/computer in a few weeks.

Larry

    
    
    
    Moderator Hat on -
    
    
    Hi everyone,
    
    	A fellow noter has made us aware of violations to the
    	notesfile policy of NO SOLICITATIONS. 
    
    	Excerpt from PERSONNEL POLICIES and PROCEDURES:
    
    	" Conferences created to communicate matters of opinion and
    	common interests may not be used for solicitations of any
    	kind, and must be open to all employees."
    
    	Please be aware any future violations will be deleted.
    
    
    	thanks; you may return to your previously scheduled program :)
    
    	Walta

Well, I don't know what happened, yet... but the golf notes file is back
on-line.  It appears that someone created a new one, which hid the old one
from the rest of you all.

Sorry for the interuption of service.  

Larry

    
    Hi... I'm Jim Durnin out of Calgary, Alberta Canada.
    I've been playing about 20 years and carry a handicap
    of 4-7 depending on what stage of the season it is.
    
    I'm basically a Publinxer but get to play the private 
    courses occasionaly.

My apologies to those of you who have been experiencing problems accessing the
Golf notes file the last several days.  We have been experiencing problems on
the Mill LAN and our group has been on & off the net.  Telecomm believes the
problem has been solved.  Sorry for the inconvience.

Note away please,

    
    Hi Everyone,
    
    
    	Lately there has been a rash of attempts at writing "new"
    	topics, when there already exists a topic.
    
    	Please check before you write a new topic, for any existing
    	topics. 
    
    	To do this ;
    
    	do a DIR/TITLE=new_topic
    
    	then simply select the existing topic and do a reply. You will
    	automatically append your reply to the end of the existing
    	topic.
    
    
    	thanks ,
    
    	Walta

    
    Hi Again,
    
      Some of you may have already noticed a bunch of new noters...
    we have agreed to list the golf notesfile on Notes-News gateway.
    This will allow a lot more golfers to enter the notesfile.
    
    	So first I'd like to welcome all the newcomers ! I'm sure you
    will all feel quite at ease and welcome here... we are happy to
    hear from you.
    
    Secondly I'd like to say that we are embarking on unchartered
    ground... the Notes-News notesfile process may not work well and
    may need some of our patience. Forinstance, they will batch
    copy the current notesfile data... and respond sometime later.
    This may cause conversational disconnects, as people may respond
    to a question that has been answered etc.
    
    	So please be patient, there will undoubtedly be a learning 
    period until everyone becomes familiar with the process... 
    if you see anyone who may need guidance please jump in and
    help out.
    
    	thanks,
    
    	Walta
    

    
    Hi Folks,
    
    	Well I just found out the Notes-news hasn't been installed yet,
    but will be soon. All you new noters are still welcome though ! :)
    
    	Walta

    
    
    Hi, 
    	I'm a new golfer.. does anyone use this notesfile any more?
    
    Sharon
    

    
    Hi Sharon,
    
     	The golf notesfile is in its winter mode...  once the New England
    weather begins to dry up, you'll see things pick up.
    
    	thanks  Walta

    Sharon,
    
    Walta is our fearless moderator and one of the golfaholics that roam
    these files. The only bigger golfaholic is me. Welcome to the wonderful,
    frustrating, beautiful, mascochism that we call golf. 
    It will test your metal, and as long as you have fun they will not come
    to take you away. By the way, you will meet some of the nicest people
    in the world on the golf course, and you will see some beautiful
    scenery that you might never experience. Enjoy the hell out of it.
    
    Rich

Well I've been informed that I'm currently "at risk" so the Golf notes file
needs to find a new home.  It's currently 40K blocks.  Contact me if you can
host it.

If I don't find something inside the company I'll be holding an auction for
my node names (PUTTER & SNDWDG).  Terms are cash & certification from your
regular foursome that you are a worthy owner.

Larry

So far no one has volunteered to host the Golf Notes file.  If no one 
volunteers soon (by Friday) I will be forced to write lock the file until
a new home can be found.  I would hate to think what life at DEC would be
like without the Golf notes file to read.  So if you've been waiting for
the other guy(or lady) to volunteer maybe it's time for you to step forward.

Larry

Andy Ostrom has volunteered to host the Golf Notes file.  It will be moving
to node OPS5 which is an Alpha based machine.  So not only do we get a new home
but we get a speed boost too!.  I'm setting the conference NOWRITE & Andy
will be pulling a copy this evening.

Larry

    And now it's here!  I hope this works out well -- OPS5 is a pretty
    lightly loaded system right now.  It is a development system, and
    runs quite a bit of Field Test software, so it has been known to
    crash once in a while, but that shouldn't impact this conference very
    much.  Let me know if you have any problems -- Enjoy!

                                Andy Ostrom

    Re:     <<< Note 1.47 by OPS5::OSTROM "Knowledge Based Systems Prod. Mgmt." >>>

    Welcome as a moderator, Andy.
    
    Tavo

    Andy,
    
    I would like to say "Thanks, pal!" on behalf of all of us.
    
    Rich

    Hi,
    
    I'm Rick Trickett. I've been hacking at this Scottish Practical Joke
    for the last 5 years. It's now time for a club upgrade from the tag
    sale specials I purchased early on. (before I knew I was hooked, or is
    that sliced). Anyway, I'd like to upgrade without a second morgage. End
    of the season sales anywhere? Nice set of low milage used? Someone
    building clubs? I reviewed past listings, but alas, they are all on the
    links in new hands!
    
    
    rt

    Next Friday, 1/21/94, my group is moving from LMO2 (Marlboro, Mass)
    to MRO1 (Marlboro, Mass).  We expect to shut down all the systems on
    Thursday, some time, and they may well not be running again until the
    weekend.  (OPS5:: is going into our "lab" not the computer room, so
    we have to unpack and set it up ourselves).  Thus, the GOLF notesfile
    may be unavailbale for much of this time.

    Luckily, LMO2 and MRO1 are in the same DECnet Area, so the node
    address will NOT be changing.  Thanks for your patience.

                                Andy Ostrom

    While doing some housecleaning on the For Sale/Wanted note I found
    tonight that this conference had become corrupt.  An ANALYZE/RMS said
    the file was unrepairable.  Use of some of the moderators tools has
    allowed me to copy all the contents of the old GOLF.NOTE into a new
    file.  Everything appears to have worked correctly, but if you find
    anything missing, please send me mail and I'll try to recover it.
    I'll keep the old file around for a few weeks...
    
                        Andy Ostrom
                        Moderator

    Well, I've accepted a new job, in the Internet Business Group's
    Product Management organization.  I THINK I'll need to move this
    conference off OPS5:: sometime soon.  Nothing will happen until I'm
    ensconced in LJO2, however, and have a system up and running there.
    I'll give as much advance notice here as I can.  Thanks.

                        Andy Ostrom
                        Moderator

    Re:           <<< Note 1.53 by ANDREW::OSTROM "ETP Engineering Mgr." >>>

    Andy,

    It's not  a  bad  time  to move the conference, traffic has been very
    light the last month. Thanks for taking care of it.
    
    Tavo

    
    	the Greyhawk
    
    		12-handicap
    		Metal woods, Nicklaus tournement blade irons
    		Play anytime, anywhere
    		Father is buddies with Arnie (really!!)
    		Brought a house in Florida just to play the course
    
    		I love this game!!!!

    	re -1
    
    	Gee Greyhawk,
    
    	When do we get a tourney together and invite your father and all
    his buddies?

        My apologies for not entering a note here telling people that
    OPS5::, owned by my previous group, was moving from MRO to TAY last
    Friday.  Anyway, as you can see, if you're reading this note, the
    group has moved, and this conference is once again available.  I
    still may need to move it to LJO sometime, but I still don't have a
    home for it here.

                        Andy Ostrom
                        Moderator

Thanks Andy!

I was getting a little nervous.  As a mostly Read Only, this is my lunch time
entertainment.

RTG

    Thought I'd put in my intro, as i'm starting to add some reply's:
	
		Steve Turcotte...aka Turk
			15 handicap
			BB driver, Hogan Radial 3,4 wood, persimmion
			new iron to arrive 3/10 are King Cobra knockoffs
			the "King Snake" (replacing my 12 yr old Hogan Radials)
		currently reside in Cincinnati OH, 5 years, some great courses 
		in this area, even the City courses are great.

		Lived in WPB for 6 years prior to moving here, played some 
		great courses, I caddied for a couple winters at Seminole in 
		Juno, played it twice. Old Marsh, all the PGA National Courses, 
		and alot of courses from Doral to Jacksonville, and many on 
		the west coast of Fl (where my brother still lives).

		Play 3 to 4 times a week weather permitting, and take a golf 
		trip once a year with my brothers (I got 5 of em) and my dad, 
		this year was Orlando, in Jan played 4 courses (Metro West the 
		nicest) Should be playing my new sticks this weekeng.

	Turk

    
    Geoff Cussell
    Currently working in Evry, France.
    Maxfli Tour Ltd's (Forged, peripheral weighted), Mizuno 3-wood
    My Dad, brother and uncle were/are club-pros back home in Australia.
    Shooting mid-80's - in the summer. Currently 'not a member anywhere.
    'Love the game and have done since I could walk/work for Dad in the
    pro-shop.

    Geoff,
    
    Relatives back in Australia that were/are club-pros.....so what are
    you doing in France working at DEC????  Get back to Australia and
    golf!!!  Please tell us about the courses in Australia.
    
    Linda

    Hi
    
    Didn't really answer .61 in .62 so...
    
    The best courses in Australia are in Melbourne. This is because of the
    sandy soil which provides natural drainage and consistent healthy turf.
    Melbourne has one of the highest concentrations of great courses to be 
    found anywhere in the world. The problem with most of the courses in 
    the metropolitan area is that they're private - very private. 
    Trevino once said that he pitied golfing-widows in Melbourne 
    because as if living in suburbia wasn't bad enough, many people retire 
    to the Mornington Peninsula around Port Philip Bay to the South-east. Here
    again there is the sandy soil along with terrain perfect for golf
    courses. Some of the courses in this area are Rosebud, Cape Schank,
    Flinders, The National, Portsea and Sorrento all public and great tests
    especially when the wind blows. It's this area in April I would
    recommend to anyone planning an Australian golfing holiday.
    
    Sydney has some good courses albeit clay-based and there are resort
    courses right up the east coast to North Queensland none of which I've 
    played but would love to visit soon with some buddies and some beers.
    
    Regards,
    Geoff 
                                                                   

    Back in February I entered the following:

>     <<< Note 1.57 by LJSRV2::OSTROM "Internet Business Grp. Prod Mgmt." >>>
>                           -< This system has moved >-
>
>
>        My apologies for not entering a note here telling people that
>    OPS5::, owned by my previous group, was moving from MRO to TAY last
>    Friday.  Anyway, as you can see, if you're reading this note, the
>    group has moved, and this conference is once again available.  I
>    still may need to move it to LJO sometime, but I still don't have a
>    home for it here.
>
>                        Andy Ostrom
>                        Moderator

    Well, they're consolidating systems in my old group, and have asked
    me to find a new home for the Golf notes conference.  The systems
    here in LJO are not very stable, so I'd rather find it a better home.
    So, I'm looking for a volunteer to host the conference  -- I'd be
    willing to continue to help out as a co-moderator, if someone else
    has the system resources (it's not a very big conference).  Please
    contact me if you can help us out.

                        Andy Ostrom
                        Your Moderator

    Once again, my apologies for the short notice.  I have 2 volunteers
    for a new home for GOLF.NOTE.  The timeing on this is particularly
    good, since I have accepted a job "in the real world" after 16 years
    at DEC, and this looks to be my last week here.  I plan to shut off
    access to this file on Wednesday afternoon, and move the file at that
    time.  Thereafter, the Golf Notes Conference will be available at:

                KEPTIN::GOLF.NOTE

    I thank you all for your support and understanding.

                                Andy Ostrom
                                (ex-) Moderator

    Re:     <<< Note 1.65 by LJSRV2::OSTROM "Internet Business Grp. Prod Mgmt." >>>

    Andy,
    
    Thanks for  your  work  as owner/moderator of this conference and the
    best of lucks "in the real world"
    
    Tavo

    I've just been told by the owners of OPS5 that they're re-naming the
    system tomorrow morning (OPS5 will be the cluster alias for a
    DIFFERENT system) so I need to move the file tonight.  I'll be
    shutting off access later today (in the evening), and then moving the
    file over to KEPTIN:: tomorrow morning.  I hope everyone re-synchs
    with the change.  Thanks!

                        Andy Ostrom
                        Moderator until Friday...

    The GOLF conference should be back in business.  I've added both Mark
    Granoff and Bill Muth as new moderators, who, I am sure, will
    help to ensure the continued well being of this endeavour.

                        Andy Ostrom
                        Short-timer

Hello, and welcome to KEPTIN, the GOLF conference's new home! I am your
host, Mark Granoff, sole proprieter here. I am also a new golfer, so I have
an interest in the conference other than consuming disk and network
resources. :-)

In case you care, KEPTIN is a VAXstation 4000 Model 60 with 32MB of memory.
I currently allow a maximum of two simultaneously running Notes servers
each allowing 32 links. That should be more than enough; KEPTIN hosts one
other conference which has very low volume.

KEPTIN is accessible via DECnet (address is 12.313; 12601::GOLF should
work) and TCP/IP at golf@keptin.lkg.dec.com (16.20.212.163).

Enjoy,
-Mark (new moderator)

    Re:   <<< Note 1.69 by KEPTIN::GRANOFF "Keptin! Klingon wessel decloaking..." >>>

    Welcome and thanks for taking care of GOLF
    
    Tavo

You might have experienced a problem getting to KEPTIN today; my apologies.

The machine went down several times while I was adding a second tape drive.
Its back now (obviously) and should remain up indefinately (its a VAX
afterall. ;-)

I will try to warn ahead of time of future down time (or limit it to the
Winter when fewer people are playing golf... ;-)

-Mark

    /Richard

I have noticed that occasionally my notes server consumes a heap of CPU and
my disks start chattering. Since I have but two conferences on KEPTIN, and
I know this is the active one, I can only assume that someone, somewhere is
doing some kind of complete scan of the conference. I would ask, if people
are doing this in some kind of automated procedure, to do it outside of my
regular business hours (0800-1700 Eastern Time).

Thanks,
-Mark

I moved some notes to the official introductions (a.k.a. Registry) note,
and changed to conference notice to make that note (61) obvious.

I retitled note 1 to "Conference Welcome, Issues, & Announcements" to
better describe what the note should (and should not) be used for.

-Mark (co-moderator)

There may be periods in the next few weeks where this conference is
inaccessible.

KEPTIN has a slight hardware problem. Fixing it, which I expect to happen
today, will require a brief shutdown.

I would like to upgrade KEPTIN to OpenVMS VAX V6.2 (and a few other things)
"soon". I've been putting it off, but now I might actually have some time
to do it. So, longer periods of inaccessibility in the next few weeks may
be due to an upgrade in progress.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

-Mark

Obviously, with no power, its going to be hard to serve up notes. :-)

Figure KEPTIN and this confernece will be unavailable from about 9 Nov 1995
17:00 EST to at least 10 Nov 1995 07:30 EST.

-Mark

From:	RANGER::USCTR1::GPS_ADVISORY "GPS SERVICE ADVISORY  07-Nov-1995 1403"  7-NOV-1995 15:06:30.45
To:	@LKG,@TAY
CC:	CAPNET::GANGI,TPSYS::RSILVA,TPSYS::BOYLAN,@GPS,DELNI::KELLEY,GPS_ADVISORY
Subj:	LKG1&2 Total Electrical Power Interuption 11/9 Midnight to 11/10 6am



                ********* IMPORTANT **********
                ********** NOTICE ************

        WHAT    : Site Power Shut Down 
        WHERE   : Entire LKG1 & 2 Facility
        WHEN    : 9 November 1995                 
        TIME    : 12pm to 6am Thursday evening into Friday morning
        IMPACT  : Total Electrical Power Outage Approximately 6 hours
        REASON  : Littleton Electrical Light & Power will be performing
                  repair work to their lines.
        CONTACT : Building Services 226-7039
                 

I apologize if you were rudely bumped off in the last couple days. I've
been adding hardware to KEPTIN and its required more time and energy than
I expected.

Expect at least one more interruption in the near future (tomorrow,
probably). But between now and then, KEPTIN should be up and avaialble.

Again, sorry for any inconvenience.

-Mark

KEPTIN's DECnet address changed over the weekend from 12.313 to 4.373.
Unfortunately, the updates happened across the network before I could change
KEPTIN's address! All should be fine now though.

KEPTIN's TCP/IP address has NOT changed.

Sorry for any inconvenience this caused.

-Mark

In the next week or 3, KEPTIN will be moving from LKG1 to LKG2. So, there
will be some time when this conference is not available. At this time, I
don't know exactly when KEPTIN will move.

Also, the move is going to require my changing KEPTIN's DECnet *and* TCP/IP
addresses because my new group sits in a different DECnet area and IP
subnet, respectively.  I will try to post a note here with the new
information, but failing that you can check TURRIS::EASYNET_CONFERENCES
note 563 if you lose sight of the conference.

-Mark

This conference needs a new home. If you can host this conference, please
contact me.

The conference is almost 55000 blocks and gets a reasonable amount of
activity. I've observed as many as 5 or 6 people connected at one time but
rarely is my system's performance (a VAXstation 4000/60 w/ 56MB) degraded
by it.

-Mark Granoff
 KEPTIN::GRANOFF
 DTN: 226-6480

I just wanted to let you know that Mark Granoff transfered the conference 
because he is leaving Digital. Here is his farewell note he posted in 
DIGITAL.
==========================================================================
[I post this here for anyone interested and which whom I have list touch.
-mhg]

It is with some sadness but no regrets that I have tendered my resignation
from Digital. My last day here is Friday, February 21, 1997.

Simply put, this is not the same company I eagerly joined in April 1989.
The opportunities and environment I seek are no longer here.

I had wanted to develop software at Digital for a long time. In 1989 I
joined the Software Services/Engineering group VAXworks in Maynard, MA
(PKO). It wasn't a software engineering job, but it was my foot in the
door. (And at that time, just getting one's foot in the door here required
some luck and timing!) Two and a half years later, I accepted a Senior
Software Engineering position with the PATHWORKS group in Littleton (LJO,
LKG). Finally! Software Engineering! I made contributions, learned a lot,
and forged new friendships. In June 1995 I moved to Remote Access
Engineering (LKG) where I contributed to and delivered two products in 12
months. I was part of a small, agile team working on and with leading edge
technologies. Through circumstances beyond my control in August 1996, I had
to change groups again and moved to the clearVISN Network Management
Engineering group.

Back in '89 I felt that I was joining a legendary company. I felt that if I
worked hard I could excel here and be happy for a long time.  I saw no
reason to ever leave. But times change.

My job search started in August (as a direct result of those "circumstances
beyond my control"). I set about my search with very specific criteria and
goals. I sought an opportunity, not just a job. Its taken a while, but I
have found a position which I believe suits me very well both personally
and professionally, and offers a great deal of opportunity.

In eight years at Digital I have been fortunate to work with some great
people (many of whom are still here, and many of whom have left) and on
some great products. I have learned a lot here and made many friends, for
which I am thankful.

Good luck to all that remain, and keep in touch.

Regards,
-Mark H. Granoff
 granoff@Ultranet.com (my "home" address)
 Mark.Granoff@Software.com (after 24 Feb 1997)