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Conference wonder::turbolaser

Title:TurboLaser Notesfile - AlphaServer 8200 and 8400 systems
Notice:Welcome to WONDER::TURBOLASER in it's new homeshortly
Moderator:LANDO::DROBNER
Created:Tue Dec 20 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1218
Total number of notes:4645

1117.0. "U:A: need SIMM so BANK translation." by COLES1::LONZECK () Wed Feb 26 1997 08:25

    Hello,
    
    which SIMM's are BANK 0; Bank 1;.........on the MS7CC-xx
    Memory Modules ?
    
    
    mfg. Uwe
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1117.1how about sim calloutAFW3::MAZURWed Feb 26 1997 13:048
Have you tried running SIM CALLOUT on this memory?  Do you know about that
console/diag feature.  If you did try it, did it not find the problem?
It will call out the location of the bad sim.
	
	>>> Set sim_callout On
	>>> init


1117.2>>> all internal tests are ok <<<COLES1::LONZECKWed Feb 26 1997 15:5528
    Hello,
    
    i try the Simm_callout, but i get no result.
    The system tells me that all is fine.
    Test MS7cc works also without errors.
    The Problem is described also in this note: 1109.
    
    TLASER FW V4.1-6
    
    additional info: System crash varios between 1h and 3-4 Day's.
    In case of systemcrash only Pwr / reset works, because the Console
    crashs and loop. (see in this Note entry 1109)
    All internal A8400 Diags runs (test for 3-8h) without any error.
    If a error detected the System hung, no <CNTR> P...... work.
    Also here only a Power reset get me the console back and no
    errorinformation are stored in any register.
    
    For the defektive memory i get from decevent the information that there
    is a problem with bank 1.
    Installed are two MS7CC-FA (2GB) Modules at the time of crash with 4
    way interleaving.
    
    My question only, also for future, what does 'dia' (decevent V2.2) mean 
    with bank 1 ?
    Which SIMM's (Jxx) are Bank1, Bank2..........
    
    regards, Uwe
     
1117.3DANGER::HARTWELLWed Feb 26 1997 19:098
    You have an intermittent bus protocol problem that could be due
    to any number of issues. Since you have identified the offending
    module, you should be all set. Nothing tests the system better
    than the OS with either specialized tests or customer Apps.
    
    
    				/Dave
    
1117.4Here is a simm/bank chartHARMNY::PREISIGMon Mar 03 1997 13:5721
    
    
    
    
    Here is a chart that answers your original question (1117.0)
    
    
				MS7CC-GA SIMM/BANK CHART


		Bank 0		Bank 1		Bank 2		Bank 3
                ------		------		------		------
		  J2		  J3		  J8		  J9
		  J4		  J5		  J10		  J11
		  J6		  J7		  J12		  J13
		  J14		  J15		  J22		  J23
		  J16		  J17		  J24		  J25
		  J18		  J19		  J26		  J27
		  J20		  J21		  J32		  J33
		  J28		  J29		  J34		  J35
		  J30		  J31		  J36		  J37
1117.5MS7CC-FA Layout the same ??COLES1::LONZECKMon Mar 03 1997 17:196
    Hello,
    
    thanks for the Information about the MS7CC-GA (4GB Memory Module) 
    Banklayout.
    
    Is the Banklayout for the MS7cc-FA (2GB Memory Module) the same ???
1117.6Layout is not the sameTARKIN::HALLTue Mar 04 1997 13:012
    No the simm layout is not the same. The MS7CC-FA (2GB) only has 2 banks
    per module. Where as the MS7CC-GA (4GB) has 4 banks per module. 
1117.7Please provide Chart for MS7CC-FACOLES1::SIEKWed Mar 05 1997 06:5510
    Hi!
    
    Is there nobody out there, that can provide the SIMM/BANK layout
    of the MS7CC-FA module as done in .4???
    We already had a lot of trouble with these modules, and as you can
    see in this entry, not all the problems can be found by setting
    SIMM_CALLOUT to on.
    
    Herbert
    
1117.8look in the PFMS...WONDER::MUZZIWed Mar 05 1997 11:3711
    
    
    The simm/bank callout is in the PFMS for both the 128/256/512/1gb and
    the 2gb boards, and the callout is correct in DECevent. I'm not sure if
    the 4gb board simm/bank has made it into the new PFMS but it should be
    there shortly...and the DEVevent that will ship with the new 4gb boards
    has the correct simm callout.
    
    	-Mark-
    
    
1117.9Not the answer of my question !COLES1::LONZECKThu Mar 06 1997 06:1415
    Hello Mark,
    
    thats not the right answer.
    
    What i need is:  MS7CC-xx   E2035-AA   Bank1 = SIMM Jxx ; Jyy ; Jzz
                                           Bank2 = .......
                                           ....
                     MS7CC-xx   E2036-AA   Bank1 = SIMM Jxx ; Jyy ; Jzz
                                           Bank2 ....
                                           ....
    
    I don't have any information about the PFMS.
    
    
    	//Uwe