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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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2722.0. "Orla DSE 24 Synth? Who/where is Orla? Europe?" by RANGER::EIRIKUR () Fri Sep 13 1991 16:10

 
Orla who?  Or maybe Orla, where?
 
What is an Orla DSE 24 Dynamic Sound Expander?  At first I thought it was an
audio effector. It is a one rack space brown box.  MIDI in, out, through. 
Cassette interface.   Two-digit LED display. One row of large beige buttons,
digits 0-9, select, transpose, and edit.  Each of the word buttons has two leds
set into it.  It looks like an early 80's Ibanez guitar effector.
 
It IS some kind of synth.   No country of origin or address info on the back. 
There is a hand lettered sticker next to the NEMA power cord jack that reads
117v. 
 
It looks a bit like a 4-op FM, but the word is oscillators, not operators, and
the diagrams on the top of the case don't really look right.  There are a lot
of parameters and value ranges listed on top of the case, that's clearly how
you program it.
 
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2722.1answering my own questionsRANGER::EIRIKURMon Sep 16 1991 18:1364
Since I wrote the following, I have mail from a fellow at IRCAM in Paris, who
grew up in the same town in Italy as the Orla factory.....


Hmmm, my ears can be fooled in a music store with would-be guitar heros
flailing away.  There are some super presets (and the usual duds), but.....

It's a four-op sine wave FM unit.  I can't tell whether it is a Yamaha chipset
or a clone.  The labels are scratched off the chips!  Mike Metlay might know 
if the Elka FM machines were clean-room clones, or did they use Yamaha chips? 
The audio path has some TL84's in it, which probably reduces distortion
products.  Older 741 technology chips have slew-rate problems, especially for
large signals. There are some 4136 quad-741 chips in the chorus section,
showing that they know that they are good enough for LFO work.  It's not as
bright as the Simmons SDE (whose Yamha chips closely resemble the scratched-off
ones in the Orla), but it is warmer.  This is pretty subjective.  I need a
realtime analyzer.  Then I'm going to go into 'golden ears' type subjective
synth reviewing :-)

I expected to find 'edible' (old DEC term for ratty phenolic) PC boards,
probably with a daughter-board per voice.  No dice.  Nice clean two-sided
glass-epoxy.  Minor surprize, there's some German on the board.  Anyone know
what Erweiterung (perhaps "optional"?) and Gleichricter mean?  Perhaps
Elka/Orla did some (or got some) of their engineering done in Germany.

It has a big, unusually warm, sound for an FM machine.  There is a massive
chorusing section that is selectable on a per-patch basis, but it sounds warm
without it.  I wonder if it is always engaged in some low level sense, even if
it is switched-out?  That massive chorsusing is wild, shades of every bad
soundtrack that you ever heard made with analog organ-style string machines. 
The Elka ones, where the cosmic chorusing almost made up for the fact that the
source waveforms (pulse, probably) were nothing like a string spectrum.  Beyond
the fact that it has that chorusing, it uses two complete voices for each note
(48 total voices, though you can't get independent access) with selectable
detune fine enough for flanging.

Major amazement:

MIDI implementation.  Super win.  24-voice polyphony.  16 simultaneous patches
(limited by MIDI channels, no splitting or layering offered).  If a channel is
enabled (by setting it to a non-zero patch number) it tracks program changes on
that channel.  Dynamic allocation.  Continues to play held notes through a
program change. (Hi, Nick.)   I like this implementation.  I don't like
threading through nasty user interfaces just to convince some box that I don't
care what it thinks the zones are.  Oh, yes, the chorusing is per-voice, not
global.

Most serious loss:

	Two, count 'em, 2 outputs.  For the stereo chorus, of course.

Where it came from:

Tim tells me that the guy trading it in plays MIDI accordian.  The box shows
that it was mail-ordered from Syn-Cordian Musical Instrument Corp., Englewood,
New Jersey.  My guess is that he special-ordered it after seeing it in an Elka
accessories catalog for his MIDI accordian.  You know, the accessories that the
importer really doesn't want you to order....  Tim said that it supposedly cost
a fortune.  From the construction, that's believable.  We're not talking
Japanese mass-production here.


	Eirikur  (I need another rack.  Mounting this will displace something.)

2722.2a translationNUTELA::CHADChad, ZKO Computer ResourcesMon Sep 16 1991 20:209

Erweiterung means expansion.

Please spell Gleichricter again -- it doesn't look familiar (but I am far from
perfect).

Chad

2722.3Thanks for the translation!RANGER::EIRIKURMon Sep 16 1991 20:419
> Please spell Gleichricter again -- it doesn't look familiar

I think it was actuaaly Gleichrichter, and it is probably a technical term
concerning filtration.  I'm not too surprized about the other word, it was the
label for a box around half the voice chips, clearly the difference between the
12 and 24-voice models (mentioned in the manual).

	Eirikur

2722.4academic exerciseNUTELA::CHADChad, ZKO Computer ResourcesTue Sep 17 1991 04:4431
>> Please spell Gleichricter again -- it doesn't look familiar

>I think it was actuaaly Gleichrichter, and it is probably a technical term
>concerning filtration.  I'm not too surprized about the other word, it was the
>label for a box around half the voice chips, clearly the difference between the
>12 and 24-voice models (mentioned in the manual).

>	Eirikur

gleich = same or equal
richter = someone or something that arranges or makes something be 
		a certain way I think -- this is the gut feel -- I kind of 
		know it	but have trouble putting my finger on it if you 
		know what I mean.  A "Richter" is also a judge.
		Richtung = direction
		richten = to set right, arrange, adjust (among other things

------- 2 minutes later -----------------------

I thought all of my German dictionaries were packed away but I just
spotted on and got it.

Gleichrichter = rectifier

and is an electronics term

----------------------

Chad


2722.5pay no attention to the man behind the keyboardSALSA::MOELLERGuy on a strange tractorTue Sep 17 1991 16:253
    Gleichrichter:  Wie sagt man 'equalizer' auf Deutsch?
    
    karl
2722.6GleichricterRANGER::EIRIKURTue Sep 17 1991 18:266
Rathole.

This is getting good.  Mike Metlay rendered Gleichricter into Transformer.

Eirikur

2722.7NUTELA::CHADChad, ZKO Computer ResourcesTue Sep 17 1991 20:435
	Well, given context I'd vote for "equalizer"

Chad

2722.8MINNY::WALDISPUEHLWed Sep 18 1991 06:236
    Sorry, Chad, but "Gleichrichter" is definitely a rectifier. Believe
    your dictionary!
    
    There is no German expression for "equalizer".
    
    Ueli
2722.9Equalizer = EntzerrerTERESA::GABELMusic was my first love ...Wed Sep 18 1991 06:3214
re .5   > Gleichrichter:  Wie sagt man 'equalizer' auf Deutsch?
 
	The technical term for equalizer is 'Entzerrer'. But in the recording
	business the English term is much more common.


re .4   Chad, you are right. Gleichrichter means rectifier.


re .7	I agree with Chad. In this context equalizer seems to be the correct
 	term, although I've never seen this before.


	Hermann-Josef
2722.10SALSA::MOELLERGuy on a strange tractorWed Sep 18 1991 15:442
    Oh, well.  I hab' es nicht errinnern
    karl