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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2852
Total number of notes:33157

2645.0. "Moving Sequences" by WR1FOR::SWEETEN_SC () Wed May 22 1991 16:18

    	I checked thru some notes and could'nt quite find the answer to my
    problem. Feel free to move.
    	I'm a novice with the Sysex part of sequencing so perhaps it's not
    the answer at all- here's what I need. I have sequences stored on 3-1/2
    floppies. These can load into my synth. I would like to move these
    sequences into my PC based Cakewalk sequencer. I know I can put
    cakewalk on record and just play the sequences from the synth. This
    could take hours. Can a Sysex sequence dump do this faster and can
    anyone actually describle the process. The synth has all the midi bells
    and whistles. Thanx for any help offered.
    				Scott Sweeten
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2645.1SYSEX != SequencesDECWIN::FISHER"I am NOT a Merry Man"--WorfWed May 22 1991 20:1518
    I think you are mixing together two different things:
    
    SYSEX is a message that you send to a synth (or whatever) which is
    EXclusive to that particular SYStem.  Something like "define a tone
    called Mars Harp to be some weird combination of waves".  Cakewalk
    does some minimal stuff with these.  It basically can store some bytes
    and send them on request.
    
    On the other hand what most people would think of as sequences are
    pretty well standardized.  If you can get the "standard midi file",
    you should be able to slurp that into Cakewalk pretty easily.  The
    question remains, now, does your synth write standard midi files, and
    does it write files in a format that your PC can read.  For that, you
    will have to either supply the name of the synth or read the manual.
    Or you could plug your disk into your pc and see if you can read it :-)
    
    Burns
    
2645.221551::DAVISThu May 23 1991 11:4811
    
    This may be obvious, but ...
    
    If you do have to go the play/record route to move the sequences, you
    can jack the tempo way up on the playback sequencer and transfer them a
    lot quicker. I do this all the time, transferring from my computer
    based sequencer to a dedicated Brother sequencer. Can do a 5 minute
    song in about a minute.
    
    Rob
    
2645.35 Times as Fast in How Many Ways?DRUMS::FEHSKENSlen, EMA, LKG2-2/W10, DTN 226-7556Thu May 23 1991 20:026
    re .2 - it is sort of obvious, but one thing that's never been resolved
    satisfactorily for me is what (if any) sort of timing corruption may sneak
    in as a result of multiplied tempo transfers.
    
    len.
    
2645.4It WorkedWR1FOR::SWEETEN_SCFri May 24 1991 17:225
    	Thanks for the previous info. I tried the fast-dub approach and it
    seemed to work pretty well. I think I ran it about 3 times the speed. 
    I did get a "midi buffer overflow" message from the sysnth. I'm not
    sure exactly what that means but after re-adjusting the tempos everything
    seemed to be intact. Thanks again. Scott
2645.5WEFXEM::COTEThe keys to her Ferrari...Fri May 24 1991 18:425
    "MIDI buffer overflow" means that the internal processing done by
    the synth couldn't keep up with the incoming data. There's a FIFO
    buffer that tries to keep stuff smooth...
    
    Edd