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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2852
Total number of notes:33157

2576.0. "Kurzweil 150 Additive Module" by AQUA::ROST (In search of the lost biscuit drop) Mon Feb 18 1991 12:52

    As there is no note on this particular Kurzweil...
    
    Anyone know anything about the Kurzweil 150?  It sold in 1987 for $3000
    list, but I just saw one in the want ads for $350 !!!??? A 1987 EM
    review says it used additive synthesis, not sampling, but had the usual
    awesome Kurzy piano, some other sounds (bass, horns, synths) but no
    strings.  Additive synth programming via computer was an "upcoming"
    feature at the time.  Also the usual promise of upcoming sound
    blocks...
    
    It's huge (four rack spaces) and covered with vents...even has a fan
    inside (tubes???  ha ha).  I heard one at a museum exhibit a few
    months back where it was set up with a very nice clarinet patch.
    
    So is it an ugly duckling or the ultimate paperweight?
    
    							Brian
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2576.1.. and audition it first ..SALSA::MOELLERKarl has... left the building.Mon Feb 18 1991 16:069
    I heard and played one.. it's an enormous rack unit.  It did have the
    usual Kurzweil instruments, but to my ears every one was grainy and/or
    distorted.  The salesman present at the time told me it used a
    different method of sample playback from the 250, and that he hadn't
    sold a one.  But for $350 it might make a smokin' addition to a studio
    - we used to buy Fb01's for that much..  try it, and if you hate it,
    sell it.
    
    karl
2576.2Rick used to rave about the 150...PENUTS::HNELSONResolved: 192# now, 175# by MayMon Feb 25 1991 11:218
    FWIW, I was once at a Boston computer-music-fest where I ran into Rick
    Cohen, formerly of Digital and this conference, then at Kurzweil. He
    was *very* enthusiastic about the 150. On the other hand, Rick used his
    Kurweil discount to buy modules in the K1000 series, NOT the 150. And
    Rick is now formerly of Kurzweil, new whereabouts unknown to me, so I
    can't call him to follow up.
    
    - Hoyt
2576.3he may still be there ?SALSA::MOELLERKarl has... left the building.Mon Feb 25 1991 15:0715
>    <<< Note 2576.2 by PENUTS::HNELSON "Resolved: 192# now, 175# by May" >>>
>                    -< Rick used to rave about the 150... >-
>    Rick is now formerly of Kurzweil, new whereabouts unknown to me, so I
>    can't call him to follow up.
    
Note 2557.0                    NAMM '91 report (?)                    13 replies
KEYS::MOELLER "Stressed ? Just say 'Damitol'-I do!"  37 lines  21-JAN-1991 13:06
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>..........Young Chang/Kurzweil were
>    there with a vengeance.  I picked up some literature with the pictures
>    of former COMMUSICers Jeff Winston and Rick Cohen on it.  
    
    as of the NAMM show he was on KZ literature.
    
    karl
2576.4Call Rick at Y-C re the K150...PENUTS::HNELSONResolved: 192# now, 175# by MayMon Feb 25 1991 15:478
    I know Rick has left Kurzweil because when I call Kurzweil they tell me
    "He doesn't work here anymore." Just now I called Kurzweil and asked if
    they had a number where he can be reached!? "Yes, (617) 890-2929" That
    turns out, of course, to be Young-Chang. Not very friendly of the K
    folk to not immediately point out the Y-C alternative, methinks. Rick was
    at lunch when I called.
    
    - Hoyt
2576.5Rick's one of three software engineers at K/Y-C.PENUTS::HNELSONResolved: 192# now, 175# by MayMon Feb 25 1991 17:3314
    From Rick:
    
    The K150 is one of the few *additive* synthesizers. It is still
    supported by Kurzweil/Young-Chang -- the author of a book on additive
    synthesis (Hal Chamberlain?) works at K/Y-C. You can add up to 256
    partials. It's fully multitimbral, Rick thinks. Drawbacks: its
    bandwidth tops out at around 8kz, and you really need to run a
    particular program on your Apple II (or on your Mac with the Apple II
    emulator) to do the additive synthesis. "It has one of the best
    additive pianos you'll ever hear, included in ROM." FWIW.
    
    Rick says he still likes DEC, and hope you/we all are doing well.
    
    - Hoyt
2576.6How they do that?DCSVAX::COTEThere wasn't even any Hollywood!Mon Feb 25 1991 17:539
    > bandwidth tops out at around 8Kz...
    >              .
    >              .
    > best additive piano you'll ever hear...
    
    I'm no "golden ear", but does anyone else think these 2 sentences
    are a bit contradictory?
    
    Edd
2576.7IXION::ROSTRockette Morton's illegitimate sonMon Feb 25 1991 18:0410
    
    Re: .5
    
    That Apple II business sinks it then, because it is most definitely
    *not* programmable from the front panel (other than setting up
    split/layer/multi type of stuff).  And I don't own an Apple.  Probably
    why the guy is dumping it...four rack spaces is a lot of room to spare
    for a piano.
    
    							Brian
2576.8WowPRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeffrey A. LomickaMon Feb 25 1991 18:521
Hal Chamberlin wrote a book?  He doesn't LOOK like a famous author.