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Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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2558.0. "YAMAHA QY10" by JRDV04::SUGIMOTO (Sugimoto Akatsuki JR&D 3F ) Mon Jan 21 1991 22:28

Has anyone heard about YAMAHA QY-10?  I don't know whether it is sold in 
abroad(out of Japan). But it is really cute item. Basically it is a sequencer 
with sound module(AWM). Very small(video cassette size!) so you can put it in 
your pocket, pick it up anytime nice melody hits your brain. Sequencer has 8 
track(!) and 3 song(more than SY77!), 6000 note (enough for outdoor 
song-writing). 26 real sound is presetted. And soooo cheap, 39800 yen(about 
$290). Works you made can be transferred SY77, SY55 or else.

I really wanna have one!

sugimoto
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2558.1not hereTRIGG::EATONMon Jan 21 1991 22:436
    I haven't seen that unit in my travels in the US.  Sounds interesting. 
    Kind of reminds me of Korg's SQ8 (which didn't sell all that well, from
    what I can see).  The internal sounds is an interesting twist to it,
    too.
    
    	Dan
2558.2If you like that, you'll love this!TLE::TLET8::ASHFORTHThe Lord is my lightTue Jan 22 1991 13:0714
I haven't heard of the device you mention, but if you think it's neat, you
ought to know about the "Breakway MIDI Vocalizer." I heard recently that it's
now going to be marketed by Tascam.

This little box has a mike, and translates pitches it picks up into their MIDI
note counterparts. It has an internal sequencer (I think it was five tracks)
and some internal voices as well. I think the list was something like $350.
I haven't heard a lot about it apart from seeing it announced and such, which
surprises me- maybe it's not as good as the description makes it sound.

Anyway, didn't mean to distract- carry on.

Cheers,
	Bob
2558.3Usenet inputLNGBCH::STEWARTPlan to be more spontaneous!Tue Jan 22 1991 14:4414
       
       
       
       
       The Vocalizer has been discussed on the Usenet - in generally
       unfavorable tones.  Seems that the voice input must be right on
       pitch with no vibrato in order to track properly.  I don't recall
       the other gripes...maybe someone with better access to the Usenet
       can pull some of those comments in for us?
       
       
       
       
       
2558.4QY-10, VocalizerRANGER::EIRIKURTue Jan 22 1991 18:0217
2558.5SpecificationJRDV04::SUGIMOTOSugimoto Akatsuki JR&D 3F Wed Jan 23 1991 09:3242
If TASCAM's vocoder(!?) fill the bill, I want it. As I have to perform all part 
of the band except VOCAL part. Todd Rundgren is great, 'cause he can sing.

Any way here is a spec of the gear:

YAMAHA Music Sequencer  QY10

- 8 tracks(sequence*4, chord*2, bass*1, rhythm*1)
- pattern: preset 76, user 24
- chord preset 20
- 6000 note, 8(!) song can be recorded
- Real time/Step input
- AWM sound module
- max simul sound 28
- multi-timbre 8 with DVA
- preset sound 30 + 26(rhythm)
- display: 16*1 LCD
- MIDI IN/OUT
- battery or AC adaptor
- 187(W)*104(D)*25(H), 0.3kg just video cassette size. Put it in your pocket

preset sounds are:

        Rck Piano,      Dist Guit,      Xylohpne
        E.Piano,        Mute Guit,      Syn Bra Pd
        Tine Pno,       Elec Folk,      Syn Str Pd
        Clavinet,       Jazz Bass,      Sym Comp
        Rck Organ,      Pick Bass,      Bowed Bel
        Organ,          Slap Bass,      Perc Comp
        Hi Str Ens,     Syn Bass,       Trumpet
        Lo Str End,     Moogy,          Breathy
        Brass Ens,      Marimba,        Syn Lead1
        Elec Guit,      Vibes,          Syn Lead2
                                        Drum Set

One of these days, I'll fool around the shop and try this item.
(I can't afford the money, 'cause I've just purchased VFX-SD last week!!!)
From the photo of Keyboard magazine, there's no keyboard on it. How to input?
You can input drum sound by black and white button, yeah, those buttons serve 
as keyboard! Interesting, isn't it!

sugimoto
2558.6DISK???NYEM1::RYANWed Jan 23 1991 23:4412
    Greeting,
    
    Just spoke to my local music gear merchant about the QY10, he's fresh
    back from the show and he had goodthings to say about it....
    
    He expects it to sell in the $275-$300 range....
    
    One question....does it have a disk for storage? Tape?
    
    Gary (whose looking for an inexpensive sequencer with disk storage)
    
    
2558.7You can't expect too much.JRDV04::SUGIMOTOSugimoto Akatsuki JR&D 3F Thu Jan 24 1991 09:138
>>    One question....does it have a disk for storage? Tape?

No, it doesn't. It's too small to have such peripherals.

How about Kawai's Q-80? It's reasonably cheap, about $500, maybe, from Japanese 
price. It has 3.5' disk drive, and I heard it's pretty nice.

sugimoto
2558.8How cheap *are* you?TLE::TLET8::ASHFORTHThe Lord is my lightThu Jan 24 1991 12:206
How much functionality are you willing to give up? The little Brother doodad
(MDI 30, is it?) gets very good reviews for an extremely *unambitious*
sequencer- sounds like no more than a MIDI equivalant of a tape recorder,
really- for real cheap, in the $100 street price range.

Bob
2558.9Brother 30/40 looks OKPCOJCT::RYANFri Jan 25 1991 00:3827
    
    Greetings again,
    
    I've looked at the brother 30 and 40 modela and they seem to fit my
    needs preety well. As I remenber, they are identical except for more
    memory in the 40. They are both available under 250 real take home
    price.
    
    In the current keyboard, Brother is advertising a new model 100 or
    possibly 1000. Looks similar in the specs...but is sporting a fancy
    2 line LCD display. List price is 399...Expect take home price to be
    in the 299 region. Based on bugetary limitations, I'l like to stay
    below the 300 mark.
    
    The Yamaha caught my interest due to it's size and the on-board sounds.
    It's relativle inexpensive price was also a plus.
    
    I think i'll wait untill the dust from the show clears abit. My local
    music store will be holding it's yearly house cleaning, post show
    sale in the next month. typically they blow out anything that may
    compete with the new products. A caref shopper can normally pick up
    a bargain here.
    
    Anyway,....thanks for the info....if you can suggest any other
    alternatives please feel free.
    
    Gary ( I want it all..but my kids like to eat....)
2558.10A question....SMURF::BENNETTI'd rather be flailingWed Mar 13 1991 20:309
	Mr Sugimoto,

		Have you had the opportunity to play with one? Does
	it have stereo outputs? Does it use headphones? They are
	arriving in the stores here in April. It seems perfect for a
	guitarist to use as a practice partner.

	ccb
2558.11ALL SOLD OUT around hereJRDV04::SUGIMOTOSugimoto Akatsuki JR&D 3F Mon Mar 18 1991 07:1315
I went to several shops in Yokohama, but I couldn't find QY10 at all, they've 
been ALL SOLD OUT!! Only I could see was a displayed photograph of it, good 
grief...


>Does it have stereo outputs? 
        Well, I'm not sure.

>Does it use headphones?        
        Maybe.

>It seems perfect for a	guitarist to use as a practice partner.
        Yes, it sure is!

/sugimoto
2558.12PAULUS::BAUERRichard - ISE L10N Center FrankfurtMon Mar 18 1991 10:0112
Hi !

I tried it briefly at the Musikmesse Frankfurt. It has stereo out and
headphones (maybe the same socket). 

Kawai also introduced another version of the Session Trainer which might be
intersting for the purpose of practing.

If you have an ATARI and SGUs you should also consider Band-In-A-Box or some of
the other packages that have been introduced recently for this purpose.

	Richard
2558.13It's ba-ack!TLE::TLET8::ASHFORTHThe Lord is my lightWed Mar 20 1991 17:059
Well, this months's EM (Electronic Musician, incase you live in a cave...) has
a nice rundown of hardware sequencers, which includes the QY10. Also has a nice
fullpage ad with a *life-size* photo...it *does* make the point!

Y'know, if I get my hands on one of these, Route 3 isn't ever going to be safe
again (i.e., it'll be worse than it already is...). Worse than a cellular
telephone and in-dash TV put together!

Bob
2558.14oops...SMURF::BENNETTI'd rather be flailingTue Mar 26 1991 20:035
	Looks like the alphabet soup got ya, Bob. The sequencer in the
	rundown in EM was the QX5-FD.


2558.15Right name, wrong section...TLE::TLET8::ASHFORTHThe Lord is my lightWed Mar 27 1991 14:518
Re .14:

My oops went in a different direction- the QY10 coverage was in the NAMM report.
BTW, the Kawai equivalent is discussed right next to it. Sure would be nice to
AB-compare them "live."

Cheers,
	Bob
2558.16The box is hot...TLE::ALIVE::ASHFORTHUse the source, Luke!Fri Apr 19 1991 13:1937
Well, I just played with the little doodad, and let's just say the time went by
sort of quickly. It's mesmerizing to hear so much coming out of such a little
package!

The sounds are high-quality, IMHO. There are still some little gremlins running
around in the firmware, I think- pressing the wrong (right?) buttons causes
some sort of odd displays, and in one case, sounds. However, I think it's a
good set of capabilities- it can act as a backup SGU as well as a drum machine,
never mind the "band-in-a-box" capabilities. The range of patterns provided is
pretty good, although they're all fairly "cliche" examples. However, you can
mix and match various patterns pretty easily, and also intermix them with your
own pattens, making it not too hard to get "original" backing tracks.

You enter your own chord changes, which are used to "fill" the patterns. You
can assign voices to either custom or internal patterns as you wish. Voices can
be panned, and have their volume and pitchbend range set, but that's about it.
The voices are velocity-sensitive, though the little pushbutton keys aren't
(whaddya expect?). Both headphone and "line" outputs are provided (both 1/8"
mini plugs).

The box does both send and respond to MIDI clock- there's not much in the docs,
but I doubt it will chaselock.

The dump formats are both proprietary: QY10, supported *only* by the QY10 (for
exchanging data with another QY10), and "nsq," a proprietary Yamaha format
apparently supported by some other gear- I don't recall which. I imagine either
or both could be used pretty easily with a universal patch librarian.

I haven't yet seen the Kawai GB-2 session trainer; I'd be *very* interested in a
comparison. One thing the latter has which the QY10 (unfortunately) doesn't is
a line *in* which you can use to plug in a signal to be passed thru into the
headphone output, making it convenient to play along with the box's output.

It's nice. Mommy, can I have one?

Cheers,
	Bob
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Note 2648.0                   Yamaha QY10 pros/cons                   No replies
TROA09::CONNOLLY                                      9 lines  24-MAY-1991 17:30
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    Any comments, praise, insults that anyone has to offer about that new
    little beastie from Yamaha, the QY10? It looks like the answer to
    every low-budget MIDI user's desires: sequencer, drum machine, SGU
    (sound generation unit, right?).
    
    	Well, is it?
    
    				Cal C.
    
2558.18MANTHN::EDDEdd CoteTue Jul 02 1991 14:1567
2558.19Have the specs and the price changed?TLE::ALIVE::ASHFORTHLord, make me an instrument of thy peaceTue Jul 02 1991 15:4010
Re .18:

Y'know, I played with one of these a while back, and I was just looking over
the EM (Electronic Musician) review of them recently. I was pretty sure that
the resolution was only 24 PPQN, not 96, and I thought the list price was $399
(which would make street price around $325 or so). Anyone up on the latest
info on either figure? With 96 PPQN and *list* of $325, they start to become
more interesting...

Bob
2558.20SALSA::MOELLERintentionally Left BankTue Jul 02 1991 15:533
    Latest Keyboard (with INXS on cover) also has a review of this device.
    
    karl
2558.21Just A GuessDRUMS::FEHSKENSlen, EMA, LKG2-2/W10, DTN 226-7556Tue Jul 02 1991 17:245
    MIDI clocks are 24 ppq, I'd be surprised if the QX-10 didn't have
    higher resolution.
    
    len.
    
2558.22QY10 - goodness and limitsVARESE::FRANZONIBlue like a BluesMon Aug 26 1991 08:5328
I'm an happy owner of a QY10 since a couple of weeks and I played a lot with it.

I've felt in love with it since I saw a review on a magazine, thinking how
useful it could be for a train commuter like me ... and it is.

It's really great, easy to carry and use.

The sampled sounds are good except for the normal and distorded Electric guitar
that sonds more like a noise than an instrument.
Very good the two drum sets too, expecially for cymbals and with the exception
for the toms that sound too much 'electronic' to a 'pure' acoustic drummer like
me.

Anyway I've just a couple of concern about it, I couldn't get to change
neither the measure setup nor the speed within a song (both two parameters
seems to be 'song globals' :-( )

Has anybody of you played with it and succeded in defining measure and tempo
on a measure basis ?

This is almost my first approach to the MIDI world thus I can miss something:
for instance the QY10 is able to program and send program change messages but
it's not able to execute them (is it ?)...
Is the above parameters setup (tempo and measure) usually done by means of
program changes ?

Thanks for any hint,
cheers, Mauro.
2558.23Check The Manual Some MoreRGB::ROSTFart Fig NewtonMon Aug 26 1991 11:5211
    Re: .22
    
    Mauro,
    
    Tempo/time signature type control of sequencers is typically sequencer
    independent, every sequencer has its own way of dealing with it.  I
    suggest looking further into the manual to see if they discuss odd time
    signatures.  There is definitely no specification in the MIDI standard
    of how to do this.
    
    						Brian				
2558.24RICKS::SHERMANECADSR::SHERMAN 225-5487, 223-3326Mon Aug 26 1991 12:1610
    FWIW, I found that the MC50 can get flakey when you give it odd time
    signatures.  I've been doing 32/4, 164 and 8/4.  What screws up is that
    if you start recording a new track and start at the very beginning the
    note durations overflow and bogus events are added to the first
    measure.  I get around it by first recording the new track with
    nothing for a few measures.  Then, record on the track again for real.
    Standard measures (like 3/4 and 4/4) don't seem to have the problem, or
    at least I haven't noticed it.
    
    Steve  
2558.25nocandoISLNDS::MASHIALet us fly on wings of songMon Aug 26 1991 14:1714
    Mauro,
    I also have a QY10. I use it as a notebook for developing tunes. 
    Unfortunately, the tempo and time signatures *are* globals per song.
    
    I get around it by roughing out the song on the QY10, and then dumping
    to my PC sequencer (Cakewalk), where I can tweak tempo, time sigs, and
    anything else, to my heart's desire. 
    
    I agree with you about the sounds, BTW. I think the basses are
    especially nice, but the distorted guitar sounds like noise...
    
    but that's what *real* distorted guitars sound like to me anyway :-)
    
    Rodney_ducking_barbs_from_the_GUITAR_conference
2558.26PAULUS::BAUERRichard - ISE L10N Center FrankfurtTue Aug 27 1991 08:379
Hi QY10-folks !

There's hope. I'm pretty shure that the recent Yamaha magazine (German !)
covered changung the measure within a song.

I'm willing to get it in here, but you may have to remind me if you don't see
it within a few days (those damn brain cells...).

	Richard
2558.27VARESE::FRANZONIBlue like a BluesTue Aug 27 1991 08:3720
>    Unfortunately, the tempo and time signatures *are* globals per song.
I suspected it ... :-(
    
>    I get around it by roughing out the song on the QY10, and then dumping
>    to my PC sequencer (Cakewalk), where I can tweak tempo, time sigs, and
>    anything else, to my heart's desire. 
Using track 1..4, one can ignore the time signature and measure bounds,
but problem are with pattern programming ... infact the mix of 3/4 and 4/4
pattern introduces holes or note overlapping ...
2 3/4 measures can be shrinked to 1 4/4 by using tertine (SP?) but the result
of course is played 1.5 faster ... 

Of course I didn't bought it as a live performance instrument but, as well as
Rodney, as a notebook to compose/elaborate everywhere and everything can be
re-processed later at home on a pc.

Anyway it would be nice to hear *all* the results directly from the QY10 since
it has the capability of doing that for fixed tempo and signature songs.
    
Mauro.
2558.28PAULUS::BAUERRichard - ISE L10N Center FrankfurtWed Aug 28 1991 06:0128
Hi !

Even though I did not forget about looking up the info, I must admit I was
wrong. The Q&A section covers this question, but for the SY77....

However, now that we're at it, I will share the other info with you.

From "Milestones", Yamaha Deutschland 

Q: I try to program a pattern, but when I play it, I only hear the first beat?

A: Before you start to edit a new pattern you have to select a measure greater
than 1. Unfortunately the default of 1 is not chosen too well.

Q: I have programmed a pattern with certain sounds in Pattern-Mode. However, if
I create a song in Song-Mode the QY10 changes the sounds. What am I doing
wrong?

A: Before you create the song you have to define your sounds with Voice Select.
They are then becoming part of the song and are kept.

Q: Is it possible to create breaks for the Background in Song-Moed ?

A: Yes. You have to create empty patterns and use it within your song.

O.k., that was it. I hope it is accepted as a compensation....

	Richard
2558.29VARESE::FRANZONIBlue like a BluesFri Sep 06 1991 14:3319
>Q: I have programmed a pattern with certain sounds in Pattern-Mode. However, if
>I create a song in Song-Mode the QY10 changes the sounds. What am I doing
>wrong?
>
>A: Before you create the song you have to define your sounds with Voice Select.
>They are then becoming part of the song and are kept.
Huh, I'd rather select the voice (menu-voice) and then assign it to the
track (menu-utils-store) - this should work for both song and pattern mode

>Q: Is it possible to create breaks for the Background in Song-Moed ?
>A: Yes. You have to create empty patterns and use it within your song.
If break means to silence the BK tracks, yes - you need an empty pattern (or
the last selected pattern will keep on playing).
If break means something like Tam-ta-tum-ta-ra-ta-ra-ta-ra-ra-tu-tum-crash,
you can write in a song track as well as in a pattern ... the only difference
is chord arrangement in pattern mode.
(BTW, you can also put/get pattern to/from song tracks)

Mauro.
2558.30This month's Mix magazineEZ2GET::STEWARTBalanced on the biggest waveTue Sep 10 1991 19:279
    
    Stephen St. Croix' column includes the QY-10 (as well as the
    Steinberger guitar and the Zoom 9002) among the "things he really
    likes) category.
    
    He also included the .357 magnum and some Lamborghini in this category,
    but this is COMMUSIC, not DRUG_LORD_TOYS.
    
    
2558.31evil drug lords in the symphony. re -.1QUIVER::PICKETTDavid-if U cn rd dis U mst uz UnixFri Sep 13 1991 17:3014
    Whoa, just a minute there...
    
    No flames, but some difference valuing please. Among my 'favorite things'
    are my MIDI toys, and my firearms. 
    
    Because I do music, it does not automatically follow that I support any of
    the views expressed by R.E.M. (although I like their music).
    
    Because I shoot competitively, it does not automatically follow that I
    use or deal in drugs (I don't).
    
    Again, no flames, just thought I'd mention it...
    
    dp
2558.32there I go, being insensitive again...EZ2GET::STEWARTBalanced on the biggest waveFri Sep 13 1991 21:056
    
    The new issue (just arrived today) of Keyboard has QY-10 tips from our
    buddy Craig Anderton.
    
    re: -1 - OK, how many lamborghini owners did I offend?  *8') 
    
2558.33QY-10 MkII?QUIVER::PICKETTDavid-if U cn rd dis U mst uz UnixMon Sep 16 1991 13:074
    Back on the topic ;^)
    
    Does Yamaha have any plans to make an enhanced QY10 with disk storage?
    I'm still debating the Brother MDF-40 to back up my ESQ-1 stuff.
2558.34badly sampled sounds for few notes ?VARESE::FRANZONIBlue like a BluesTue Sep 17 1991 11:4618
I noticed an ugly behavior of my QY10 playing the Piano (the first instrument):

Playing the third octave between F3 and G3 the voice changes and while C3-F3
have a nice Piano sound, G3-C4 play like a pocket calculator (i.e.: a badly
sinthesized sound) 

I'm not 100% sure about the octave and the notes (I've not it handy now
(actually I have it but batteries are low :-) ) thus I can't double check
but the problem should be there around ...

Could one of you QY10 owners try to play all the notes, for all the octaves
with the piano voice and hear if you have the same problem here or there ?

I suspect the problem is in the sound sample, but I don't know if it's a
problem with the master or a with the piece I bought.

Cheers,
Mauro.
2558.35just checked mine...EZ2GET::STEWARTBalanced on the biggest waveTue Sep 17 1991 16:527
    
    Well, maybe it's just a matter of perception.  I just ran through the
    entire range on mine and the sample change (if that's what's going on)
    is perceptible in approximately the areas you specified, but it doesn't
    sound too bad, all things considered.  But if you're a real piano
    player you won't be satisfied...
    
2558.36thanksVARESE::FRANZONIBlue like a BluesWed Sep 18 1991 06:590
2558.37"pc", what does it do?GVA05::BERGMANSTue Sep 24 1991 09:3614
    I am the happy owner of a QY10 and I have been able to do evrything I
    wanted up to now with one exception.
    
    I need to understand what "pc" PROGRAM CHANGE does.
    
    I understand how to enter the data, but I do not understand what it
    does. What does the PC*** number refer to.
    
    Could a more experienced user explain this to me.
    
    Thanks and regards.
    
    Jean-Paul
    
2558.38SimpleRGB::ROSTSpike Lee stunt doubleTue Sep 24 1991 11:427
    Jean-Paul, a program change tells the unit to change the sound it is
    using, say from a piano to a string ensemble.  
    
    The MIDI spec defines a range of 128 program numbers (0-127
    technically, some manufacturers call these 1-128).
    
    						Brian
2558.39MANTHN::EDDHail Baby!Tue Sep 24 1991 13:1310
    >  Jean-Paul, a program change tells the unit to change the sound it is
    >  using, say from a piano to a string ensemble.
    
    Almost. The program change command tells the synth to use the sound
    stored in memory location "n", where "n" is one of the 128 program 
    numbers.
    
    It doesn't care what sound is in the slot.
    
    Edd
2558.40new, undocumented QY-10 feature!EZ2GET::STEWARTBalanced on the biggest waveThu Oct 10 1991 03:1014
    
    I found a new feature of the QY-10 last night that's not mentioned
    anywhere in the documentation!
    
    
    
    When I got home last night there was a bubble-pack envelope from Yamaha
    waiting for me.  Inside was a brand new X-large white T-shirt with the
    words "Compact Music Processor" written in script over the outline of
    a painter's palette that has dabs of bright color on it.  In smaller
    letters underneath it says "Yamaha QY-10 Sequencer".  Guess it pays to
    send in those warranty registration cards.  Can't wait to see what
    Roland sends in return for the SE-50 card...
    
2558.41MANTHN::EDDWe are amused...Thu Oct 10 1991 10:205
    > Can't wait to see what Roland sends...
    
    A T-shirt that's hard to read?
    
    Edd
2558.42Cheap ShotDRUMS::FEHSKENSlen, EMA, LKG1-2/W10Thu Oct 10 1991 15:425
    And Alesis sends you a t-shirt that disintegrates the first time you
    wash it?
    
    len.
    
2558.43Cheaper yet.ULTRA::BURGESSMad Man across the waterThu Oct 10 1991 16:2414
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>                                -< Cheap Shot >-

>    And Alesis sends you a t-shirt that disintegrates the first time you
>    wash it?
    
>    len.


	I didn't know that musicicians washed their t-shirts  (-:

	Reg
    

2558.44"Real" musicians?TLE::ALIVE::ASHFORTHLord, make me an instrument of thy peaceThu Oct 10 1991 16:582
Real electronic musicians don't wash their T-shirts, they just rinse their
chips...
2558.45"Normal distribution" is sure inappropriate for COMMUSIC!PENUTS::HNELSONHoyt 275-3407 C/RDB/SQL/X/MotifThu Oct 10 1991 23:2312
    Edd, delete this, it's off topic.
    
    When I was in graduate school, my statistics professor gave all us
    students shirts which had a normal curve on the chest. Actually, he
    told us, it isn't a normal curve, but the similar distribution more
    suitable for small sample sizes. Accounting for the name under which
    the distribution's inventor published, the result was 
    
                             a Student's t shirt
    
    hahahahaha I thought I would just pass that one along. Glad to make
    your day.
2558.46Oberheim?CTHULU::YERAZUNISVery funny. Yes.Fri Oct 11 1991 11:197
    
    ...and Oberheim sends you a T shirt that's separate sleeves, front, back,
    collar, edging, lettering, etc. and you connect them up any way you
    want.  You like the sleeves coming out of the collar and the lettering
    on the inside, no problem!
    
    	-Bill
2558.47Imperial Grand T-Shirt?QUIVER::PICKETTDavid-if U cn rd dis U mst uz UnixThu Oct 17 1991 00:545
2558.48here, honey, try this on ...MIZZOU::SHERMANECADSR::Sherman DTN 223-3326Thu Oct 17 1991 03:114
    Hmmm ...  What do they send you if you buy maybe a little tiny 12-key
    toy piano with a Bosendorfer sticker on it?
    
    Steve
2558.49Loland Tlee ShirtWOTVAX::KENTThu Oct 17 1991 06:5611
    
    
    Roland make great Tee-shirts. You just can't figure out how to get them
    on and the instrctions read !
    
    Take tee shirt. Install talent. If talent no warm see section
    installing cold talent. if logo on back then raise tee shirt rotate
    talent through 180 deglees lower tee shirt ensuring alms not
    outinstalled. if no work contact nearest roland service department.
    
    					Pleekay.
2558.50What's new ?ROMSLS::ABRAMOVICIguess what?Fri Dec 20 1991 15:5911
    
    
    	funny ! This note is entitled QY10, but all I could read about were
    T shirt styles. :^)
    
    	I am particularly interested to know if, to date, anything
    better than the QY10 has been announced. 
    
    Cheers,
    Michel.
    
2558.51MIZZOU::SHERMANECADSR::Sherman DTN 223-3326Fri Dec 20 1991 16:2610
    Boy, I dunno.  For a while there I thought I might add it to my lust
    list, but now I don't think so.  The problem is that I spend more of my
    time now working out parts and programming.  I really don't spend that
    much time trying to work on "hot licks".  If I get a neat idea, I just
    hum it into a tape recorder or work it out on paper.  That's plenty
    fast for me.  I wait until I can get to my synth before I do the heavy 
    stuff.  I'm not sure what I'd really use the thing for.  BTW, prices seem 
    to be dropping on it a bit.  You can get one for, what, $325 to $350 or so?
    
    Steve
2558.52I still like mineEZ2GET::STEWARTInsult: your beeper never rings!Fri Dec 20 1991 19:3518
    
    It's still real useful if your stuck on a train/plane/whatever and you
    want to get some sequencing work done.
    
    Things they could do to improve it:
    
    1) more/better sounds
    2) more memory
    3) better keyboard
    
    Just as long as they don't make it any larger.  Some places sell it
    with the Roland PC-100 keyboard for $350.  I got mine from Thoroughbred
    Music in Florida for $275.
    
    As it is, it's a real useful little box.  I'd have to carry an SGU,
    along with a notebook computer, to have a better tool with today's
    offerings.
    
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    I am still new in using my qy10 and would be interested in hearing what
    more competent users have produced.
    
    Is anyone interested in sharing qy10 files?
    
    If so, how could we do this?
    
    Is there any software available on PC or ATARI that can capture the
    qy10 dumps so that we could put it onto the network?
    
    Regards
    
    Jean-Paul