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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:	* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
Notice:	Conference has been write-locked. Use new version.
Moderator:	DYPSS1::SCHAFER

Created:	Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:	Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2852
Total number of notes:	33157

2461.0. "FOSTEX 2016 mixer" by PAULUS::BAUER (Richard - ISE L10N Center Frankfurt) Thu Sep 27 1990 09:59

    Hi folks !
    
    I just recently bought a FOSTEX 2016 mixer. However, I'm somewhat
    disappointed. Besides lot's of good features, like 
    
    	- switching from 2 8 in 2 mixers to one 16 in 2
    	- 2 stereo fx loops (even though only one for each of the 2
          8 line blocks)
    	- 2 additional stereo buss ins
    	- 2 stereo line  outs
    	- resonable priced (below 800,- DM propably below 400$)
    
    My disappointment comes mainly from the fact that the effects are post
    faders. That means you cannot get to 100% effect level. Or have I done
    something wrong ? Any fellow noter mode some expirience with post
    faders ? What are post faders good for ?
    
    	thanks and best regards
    
    		Richard

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2461.1		KOBAL::DICKSON		`Thu Sep 27 1990 13:52`	4
	If I could only have them one way, I would want post-fader sends. When I twiddle the fader for a track I want the amount going to the reverb to track exactly so that the position in space front/back does not change.
2461.2	Post-fader is the norm for fx	MAIL::EATOND	In tents	`Thu Sep 27 1990 14:02`	9
	RE <<< Note 2461.0 by PAULUS::BAUER "Richard - ISE L10N Center Frankfurt" >>> -< FOSTEX 2016 mixer >- Are you sure you mean "post"-fader? Post-fader is the norm for FX sends (where the amount going to the fx device is governed by the main fader on that channel). Pre fader is the one that requires more co-ordination on fadeouts, because if you pull down the channel fader without touching the fx pot, you don't eliminate the output of that channel (i.e., you still get it coming out of the reverb/delay/fx bus).
2461.3		PAULUS::BAUER	Richard - ISE L10N Center Frankfurt	`Fri Sep 28 1990 11:37`	41
	Hmmm, maybe I'm to biased because my previous mixer had pre-faders. My typical application is that I want strings with chorus or flanger or I want my guitar with distortion. But I know that upfront, so I can fiddle that on two knobs. Which I need to do on the post-fader as well. I turn fx to 100% and reduce the gain to reduce the dry signal. But I cannot elimate the dry signal. With the strings that's ok. But with guitar that's not sounding too good. I still would have the option to modify the amount of fx thru the fx processor. Or I could change program or press bypass. Connected to a sequencer, I could even change that automatically. What worries my most, is that I have to change all my fx programs to adjust the various levels and the noise gate, because I need more gain in the fx, so that I can minimize the dry signal on the mixer. Oh well. BTW, has anyone heard of the 16 channel MIDI mixer by YES Audio ? best regards Richard >================================================================================ >Note 2461.2 FOSTEX 2016 mixer 2 of 2 >MAIL::EATOND "In tents" 9 lines 27-SEP-1990 10:02 >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -< Post-fader is the norm for fx >- > > RE <<< Note 2461.0 by PAULUS::BAUER "Richard - ISE L10N Center Frankfurt" >>> > -< FOSTEX 2016 mixer >- > > Are you sure you mean "post"-fader? Post-fader is the norm for FX > sends (where the amount going to the fx device is governed by the main > fader on that channel). Pre fader is the one that requires more > co-ordination on fadeouts, because if you pull down the channel fader > without touching the fx pot, you don't eliminate the output of that > channel (i.e., you still get it coming out of the reverb/delay/fx bus). > > >