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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
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Number of topics:2852
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2218.0. "Kurzweil Mark III Piano" by FLUKE::COOK () Thu Dec 28 1989 20:13

    I'm looking at a Kurzweil Ensemble Brande Mark III electric piano.
    The price I have been given by East Cost Piano is $2,900. Can I
    do better than that anywhere eles? Also has anyone heared anything
    good or bad about the Mark III?
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2218.1misspell on nameFLUKE::COOKThu Dec 28 1989 20:171
    Sorry for the typing,  it's a Ensemble Grande Mark III
2218.2SALSA::MOELLERThu Dec 28 1989 20:586
    This is the one that looks like an upright, right ?  It has the
    Kurzweil piano and most of the samples available in the 1000 series.
    
    .. dunno - if you like the traditional look and like the sounds, y not?
    
    karl
2218.3FLUKE::COOKFri Dec 29 1989 14:177
    I found out from Kurzweil that the Mark III is solded to the dealer
    for $1895, but they have not yet set a price for what the dealer
    sales it for. Checking around I have been given a price range of
    $2900.00 to $3788.00?  I'll be going for the $29 naturally unless
    someone knows a better deal.  I hear that Kurzweil is the top of
    the line and because they are in Waltham Mass. it seems to be a
    good choice. Any comment? 
2218.4For your information...XERO::ARNOLDDoormat of the UniverseFri Dec 29 1989 14:4346
    >>> I hear that Kurzweil is the top of the line and because they are in
    >>> Waltham Mass. it seems to be a good choice. Any comment? 
    
    I pass no judgment on the following but it is something you should
    know if part of your decision will be based on Kurzweil being a local
    company...
    
    PRESS RELEASE... OCTOBER 23, 1989
    
    "KURZWEIL MUSIC SYSTEMS SEEKS BUSINESS COMBINATION
    
    	Kurzweil Music Systems, Inc. announced today that it has engaged
    the investment banking firm of Kidder, Peabody & Co. Incorporated as
    its financial advisor in connection with identifying and analyzing
    strategic financial alternatives, on a worldwide basis, including the
    possible sale of the Company.
    
    	Raymond C. Kurzweil, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, said
    "The Company has completed the development and recently started
    shipment of a major new product line which incorporates Kurzweil's high
    quality sound reproduction in a package designed for the home market. 
    The reception of the Kurzweil EG-20 has been very positive and the
    Company feels that this product and others recently introduced and
    under development position it well in the market.  However, as
    previously indicated, the Company continues to require additional
    funding to realize the potential of its technology and introduce new
    products.  As a result, we have determined that is in the best
    interests of our shareholders to seek an appropriate business
    combination which could provide the capital and the environment to help
    the Company achieve its ambitious plans for growth."
    
    	..."
    
    If the EG-20 is the product code for the Ensemble Grande Mark III, then
    it probably is their top-of-the-line.  If its not, then perhaps there's
    a newer home "piano" that is Kurzweil's top-of-the-line.
    
    For what it's worth,
    
    - John -
    
    P.S. To make it explicit: I own 200 shares of Kurzweil Music Systems,	
    	 Inc. stock as well as a 1000PX with PX-A soundblock.  I neither
    	 encourage nor discourage from buying, selling, or trading Kurzweil
    	 stock or equipment.  I urge people to make up their own minds and
    	 use their own best judgment.
2218.5Kurzweil simply sounds the best IMOHPSTEK::RENEAre you with me Doctor?Fri Dec 29 1989 17:026
    If a great piano sound is a must for you, Kurzweil has the best
    sounding accoustic grand piano of all that are produced electronicly in
    my (and probably many other's) opinion. To sound better (closer to the
    real thing) you may just have to buy the real thing.
    
    Frank
2218.6Kurzweil not the bestJAIMES::FALIVENAMike FalivenaTue Jan 02 1990 14:3811
    Sorry to have to disagree with .5 regarding the quality of Kurzweil's
    acoustic piano sound.  I have compared Kurzweil, Yamaha and Technics
    acoustic piano sounds and feel.  To my mind there is no comparison.
     The Technics (Model 6) is clearly superior in sound and feel to
    the other two.  Of course, there is always some subjective element
    in this kind of preference.  I have purchased two Model 6's.
    Unfortunately, I believe the Model 6 is no longer being manufactured.
     The Technics Model 20 has succeeded the Model 6, but the technology
    has been changed and is not (in my opinion) as good as the Model
    6.  (I have attached a Roland RA50 voices/rhythm box to me Technics
    keyboard and so far I think it's great.)
2218.7Piano teacherFLUKE::COOKTue Jan 02 1990 16:083
    Thanks for the input.  While I'm still looking for a piano, does anyone
    have a name of a good piano teacher in Manchester N.H.?  There are
    allot in Manchester, but a good piano teacher is normally hard to find.
2218.8huh? really?NRPUR::MCCONNELLpro-Way, Truth, *and* LifeTue Jan 02 1990 16:3415
    I've never heard the Technics Piano.  It is *better* than a Kurzweil?
    Does it have strings 8-)
    
    Seriously, where could I hear one of these, who sells them in the
    Mass. area?  I've heard the Kurzweil (my doctor is *still* doing
    reconstructive surgery on my jaw since its untimely fall when I
    first heard one) and believe it to be the closest thing to a piano
    there is.  Granted, I'm not a musical whiz, but on tape, I simply
    can not tell the difference between a well recorded grand and the
    Kurz (like I can with my Roland MKS-20, no matter *how* much you
    play with EQ and FX).

    Curious,
    
    Steve
2218.9just to stir things up a bit... :)MIDI::DANAll things are possible...Wed Jan 03 1990 11:498
	re: Kurzweil being the best -

	For 'grand piano', I'd have to agree.  But, for a 'bright piano'
	(i.e. one that would most likely be used when mixing with other
	instruments), I think my new U20 is far superior.

	Dan
2218.10Technics pianosJAIMES::FALIVENAMike FalivenaThu Jan 04 1990 15:537
    re .8
    
    The Technics electronic piano line is sold at East Coast Piano &
    Organ in Woburn (and probably at whatever other locations they have).
     Tell the owner, Greg, that Mike Falivena referred you to him.  They
    can also be found at Steinert's Worcester branch store.  Try out
    a Model 6 if you can find one.
2218.11East Coast PianoFLUKE::COOKTue Jan 09 1990 17:365
    Re .10
    
    I have been down to East Coast Piano in Woburn.  After shopping
    around, I feel East Coast Piano has the best selections and the
    best price in this area, but I'm not sure about their service.