Conference napalm::commusic_v1

    Well, analog will be in my next stuff, but acid?  It's bad enough
    to have instrumental stuff tagged as New Age ...
    
    Steve

    Gee - should be around as long as disco/rap/punk ...

-b

    What the world needs now is acid new wage.
    Tom

    WWWOOOWWW!!!
    

    The best thing (so far) to come out of the acid house scene is the
    stunt pulled by one of the jazz labels when they got a lot more
    publicity (and air-time) than usual for some of their records by releasing
    them on their new 'Acid Jazz' label. The boss of the label even admitted
    publically that it was just a stunt, but the magic word 'acid' ensured the
    hype. (By the way, the BBC will not play any record with the word 'acid' in
    it - they won't even mention records with the word in the title !)

    On a more Commusic note, apparantly the essential, street cred and
    currently well crucial bass sound is that of the Roland TR-303 Bassline
    (probably sampled though). So come on chaps, get your TR-303's out, stop
    using them as doorstops and cut some wicked acid tracks :-)

    All together now ....

    Aciiiiiiiiid !

    I think I'm going to be ill,


    Derek.

    Hey, maybe they'll like the sound of my Casio VL-TONE, or my 
    MT-10 ... 
    
    Steve

    You know...bathtub gin, bathtub lysergic acid diethylamide.... 
    Bathtubs have always been a part of the music scene.  Well, at least
    since their invention. :-)
    
    	Eirikur
    

    
    	well let's see, last time around acid brought us 27 minute sides
    of 'how long can i doodle before i fall down'.  This sounds like
    todays acid head, for adventure, traps themselves in elevators to
    see howw long they can handle the muzak? ( or am i missing something)
    
    					bob

    re .8 - I thought that stuff was already called "new age"...
    
    len.
    

    
    re .9 - that's also what i thought - but the initial description
    implied much of the same thing. 
    
    	wait - new age in my head is folks trying to do Paul Horn with
    	their synth's. This stuff sounds (from the description) like
    	new age disco?
    
    guess we'll have to reactivate the radio and see if i can dial in
    some flashbacks ;-)
    
    bob

    
    'guess none of you have noticed my handle....
    
    	"jackin' the house", Bob
    
    I've been a "house music" d.j. for a million years now.  Acid House
    which emerged several years ago (or so), is just another variation
    on "house music", there's "Deep House", "Chicago House", "New York
    Underground", "Acid House", and from Detriot, "Techno House".
    
    "House" d.j.'s and artist have been stressing that Acid House does
    NOT promote the use of drugs (despite the BBC's claim that it does,
    and since their ban of it from the airwaves).
    
    House has been around longer than "Disco" of the 70's (I was d.j.ing
    then too).
    
    Now, why do you all think that I've been investing in drum machines
    and my brand new (hooray) EPS system????
    
    "jackin' the house", Bob

    
    well fortunately, i'm old enough, and uncool enough to have watched
    disco from afar - matter of fact, except for record hops of the
    early 60's, i've missed out on the 'dj' phenomenon altogether.
    
    and, i guess from your reply (.11), musically, i'm on target?
    
    someday in the next 10 years, my kids will be gone, and i'll be
    out seeing what's 'happenin and i'll figure out exactly what
    "house music" is. Or, do i want to?
    
    bob

    
    One must understand and be open minded to dance before one
    can understand any of the genres of dance music....
    
    	(i.e. disco, rap, house, acid house, etc.)
    
    I will admit the facts mentioned thus far to describe the music
    itself and the means by which acid house is created are fairly
    accurate, but the statements made regarding the backgrounds, 
    lifestyles, etc.  of those who listen to and create Acid House
    are not totally valid.
    
    When we speak of any of the genres of dance music we are speaking
    of significant entities within the music industry. Dance music
    generates almost 1/3 of the revenues earned in the industry, so
    before we perceive Acid House and other hybrids of dance music,
    to be short lived think of the old cliche':
    
    	"Money talks everything else walks !"
    
    	Viva la disco, la rap, la house ! Viva la dance !
    
     		A-cid who are you ?
    
    p.s. Another d.j. perspective.
           
    

    Assuming that this topic was posted for sarcastic/tongue in cheek
    value, perhaps this would be better fought in the MUSIC conference.
    The content and tones of the last few notes are beyond the scope
    of this conference.

    As always, press keypad 7 to add the DREGS::MUSIC conference to your
    notebook. 

-b

    
    
    Re: .14
    
    I agree. I'd never voice an opinion on Acid house music here.
    
    But how appropriate it should be discussed on node DREGS.
    
    Richard.

    
    Re: .14
    
    The base note I entered was entirely serious...I wasn't making fun
    of the stuff, I thought it was pretty cool.  After all, it seems
    like dance music today seem to be using a lot more of the current
    electronic music technology in new ways than other genres.
    
    

    
    House music itself, no matter what form (deep, acid, house-rap,
    etc), is largely electonic.  I'd like to say 100%, but then someone
    will come along with an example to prove me wrong.
    
    Most of it has come from inner-city kids/teens in bedroom studios who 
    put something together on their Casio's, 909's and 606's.  They then
    manage to get it heard by a producer (such as Rocky Jones) and they
    get a little studio help to turn out a more professional sounding
    product.
    
    The older Roland machines are still the drum machines of choice
    because they have a slightly less refined/realistic sound than the
    new samples (ala HR-16).
    
    Today, the beginnings of a tune are more refined.  The 'oldsters'
    such as Chip E, Farley "Jackmaster" Funk, Tyree Cooper, "Fast" Eddie
    Smith, Marshall Jefferson, "Bad Boy" Bill, Mark Imperial, Kenny
    "Jammin'" Jason, etc. NOT TO FORGET the Godfather of house, Frankie
    Knuckles, can afford real studio time most anytime they want it.
    But they still receive home-made tapes from kids who are hoping
    to make it.
    
    As for me?  Well I'm buying the equipment but I don't know if I
    have the talent or innovation to rival the others.  My first step
    is going to be to try and emulate the sounds of others so that I
    can become familiar with my HR16 and EPS.  Then, hopefully, look
    out.
    
    While Chicago is considered internationally as the Home of the house
    sound, I'd like to point out before my east coast colleagues remind
    me, there are many other fine non-Chicago House artists; including
    Kevin Saunderson and Paris Grey of Detroit ("Big Fun" by Inner City),
    Todd Terry, and Tony Humpries of N.Y.C., and Blaze of New Jersey.
    
    Personally, I'd love to get a chance to see Tony Terry at work in
    the studio.
    
    For now....it's
    
    "jackin' the house", Bob
    
    

    re: 13-17 - well, sorry mr. moderator - was not tryin to be bad,
    just could not unnerstan what was being described. The thought of
    the term 'acid' which for me brings back da 60's, combined with
    what sounded like somethin altogether different, left me wondering!
    House music is a term i did not unnerstan. The last two replies
    have clarified this. I think from what i have heard here, is that
    it is music that may certainly be generated by the toys discussed
    in this conference, and geez, sometimes maybe we ought to discuss
    the outcome(other than commusic reviews) of vhat all dees toys do!
    
    And thanx for the explanation of "house" music - i'll have to try
    this out on my "house teenagers" - see how 'cool' they are!
    
    
    				radio free bob

    "If you can remember the '60's, you weren't there."
    
    					Timothy Leary, quoted in NEWSWEEK