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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
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1844.0. "Voice-to-MIDI, Pitch-to-MIDI?" by FGVAXX::LAING (Soft-Core-Cuddler*Jim Laing*261-2194) Mon Jan 09 1989 02:10

    I did a DIR/TITLE=VOCAL, DIR/TITLE=VOICE AND DIR/TITLE=PITCH and
    couldn't find anything on this topic.
    
    What's the latest in Voice-to-MIDI converters?  Or, more generally,
    Pitch-to-MIDI controllers?  Other than guitar-shaped controllers,
    that is.
    
    I'm possibly interested in using my voice as another "MIDI controller"
    - can I do this reasonably accurately and reasonable cheaply???
    
    		-Jim
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1844.1Wish I could be more specific...NRPUR::DEATONMon Jan 09 1989 12:138
RE < Note 1844.0 by FGVAXX::LAING "Soft-Core-Cuddler*Jim Laing*261-2194" >

	There's a very inexpensive voice tracker that transmits midi I saw
in a recent magazine but I can't recall where.  It was shaped like an over-
large microphone.  Cost was well under $500.

	Dan

1844.2That review was in Keyboard magazineDREGS::BLICKSTEINYo!Mon Jan 09 1989 13:236
    The review was in the most recent issue of Keyboard magazine.
    
    Although it's offered as a "product", it looked like a garage product,
    however the review did say it works, so...
    
    	db
1844.3NRPUR::DEATONMon Jan 09 1989 14:5017
RE < Note 1844.2 by DREGS::BLICKSTEIN "Yo!" >

	That wasn't where I saw it, because I haven't gotten the last few issues
of Keyboard.  But it's probably the same one.  I just found the ad I saw in a
catalog.  It's calle dhte MIDIMIC, and its made by DIGIGRAM.  It lists for $349.

	Features:

	Line input for guitars, bass, electric piano, etc.
	Tracks notes and pitch bends
	Transposes,
	Automatic gain
	Automatic tuning
	Automatic power down (saves batteries)

	Dan

1844.4try a few issues back (dec?)NORGE::CHADMon Jan 09 1989 15:137
It wasn't the latest KEYBOARD, try an issue or so ago.  The over-large mic
looking thing is the MIDI-MIC I think.  It comes from France.  The review
talked about two different ones.  The otherone really did look like a garage
project.

CHad
1844.5The Sharper ImageHPSRAD::NORCROSSOpen 7 Days a WeekMon Jan 09 1989 16:085
Also, try a  some  of  the  recent  Sharper Image catalogues for another
     mic-to-MIDI converter.  (I think this one is different from the one
     mentioned previously - about the same price range.)

/Mitch
1844.6Try EM instead of KB?DRUMS::FEHSKENSMon Jan 09 1989 16:315
    I'm pretty sure the review of the two voice-to-MIDI contraptions
    was in a recent Electronic Musician, not Keyboard.
    
    len.
    
1844.7Funny you should askSTAR::BENSONMon Jan 09 1989 16:4643
    I was in possession of a box called the IVL Pitchrider 400 Mark II
    over the weekend. I got it to try out with my electric violin, but
    I also tried guitar, whistling, and briefly, singing. You basically
    just plug your sound source into it, tune to it (or it to you),
    set your level, and go. This is a monophonic converter - not to
    be confused with their model 7000 for guitar.
    
    I returned it this morning because it didn't work particularly well
    with my violin. To get reasonable tracking, I had to turn pitch-bend
    off on the Pitchrider. Otherwise, it tended to be confused by the
    noise of the bow attack on the string, and would start the note
    flat, then bend up to pitch. The processing to figure this all out
    would further delay the attack, as well. Even with pitch bend turned
    off, it would take the device longer to identify a bowed note than
    one played legato. And of course, with pitch bend turned off, it
    does not track vibrato. So, if I slurred all  my notes and didn't
    want vibrato or pitch bend to work, it would have been fine...
    
    It worked better with the guitar. In fact, it would be usable that
    way - but now that guitar-shaped controllers are coming down in
    price, use conversion methods that are faster than pitch-to-midi,
    and are polyphonic, it wouldn't make much sense. I figure I'll just
    wait 3-4 years and pick up a used <whatever-comes-out-next-year>.
    The pitchrider lets you program in 6 note chords to follow your
    pitch - that was fun. Using the optional foot controller (which
    I didn't have) you can change programs to get the right harmonies.
    
    I was surprised how well it tracked my whistling. (Sounds strange,
    I know, but I'm a good whistler and thought it was worth a try).
    I just put a cloth over the mic to avoid having too much wind noise
    (if only I could have put a cloth over my bow to hide the bow noise).
    It followed pitch bends and tracked pretty well.
    
    I just tried singing random things into it, and it didn't do to
    well - because I was singing words. If you can accurately sing pure
    "ah" or maybe "ooh" consistently, I bet it would track you pretty well.
    I didn't try it.

    At any rate, the price on this is about $460 without the foot
    controller. 

    Tom

1844.8x 10STAR::BENSONMon Jan 09 1989 16:494
    Did I say 400? I meant Pitchrider 4000.
    
    Tom
    
1844.9maybe both?NORGE::CHADMon Jan 09 1989 17:176
re: len

Maybe EM had one too, but I only get KB and there was a review in there
recently on two different models, one of which looked like a garage product.

Chad
1844.10See Dec. 88 KeyboardFGVAXZ::MASHIAWe're all playing in the same bandMon Jan 09 1989 19:1546
1844.11Watch me pull a sax outta my throat...RT290::COTEMon Jan 09 1989 19:247
    $135??
    
    Sounds cheap! (YGWYPF?)
    
    ...and sounds like fun!
    
    Edd
1844.12The Sharper Image thing is a different beastDDIF::EIRIKURMon Jan 09 1989 20:4411
    The gizmos mentioned in the last few responses are quite different from
    the "Vocalizer" (as advertized by Sharper Image).  The Vocalizer was
    featured in "new products" sections of a couple of magazines about 9
    months back, but was never reviewed.  It contains a sequencer and a
    ROM-based sample player with the general run of samples, including
    drums.  No specs.  I suppose one could get a look at one at a Sharper
    Image store, but since I wouldn't pay their price for it, I haven't.
    The original price that I saw for the announcement was $299(?) Sharper
    Image is asking $399, (probably a new, improved, list price).
    
    	Eirikur  (I've got a friend who wants one)
1844.13Sax -> MIDIBISTRO::BEAUMONTC-x `Sat Aug 05 1989 17:0521