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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Moderator:DYPSS1::SCHAFER
Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2852
Total number of notes:33157

1778.0. "Roland MKB200 Keyboard Controller Questions" by STKSMA::HALL (Take care of your MIDI) Wed Nov 23 1988 08:10

    I've just bought a Roland MKB200 Keyboard Controller. I know this
    is probably a litte old but it was what I was missing. This piece
    of equipment was also second hand. 
    
    My problem;
    
    To get the After Touch action to be triggered I need to apply almost
    all of my bodywight to  keys. Is this normal for this
    type of keyboard or is the keyboard "worn"??
    
    Any other input to enhance the performance would be welcome.
    
    Torbjorn
    
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1778.1 :^) WEFXEM::COTESing with the clams, knave!Wed Nov 23 1988 09:443
    Weeeeeeellllll.......how much do you weigh?
    
    Edd
1778.2See 'aftertouch outtalunch' note, tooMARVIN::MACHINWed Nov 23 1988 09:567
    You must be able to set up the value for aftertouch somehow -- perhaps
    it's set too low. 
    
    On the other hand, if it uses conductive rubber to sense key pressure,
    maybe it's knackered.
    
    Richard. 
1778.3I even think I wrote it...WEFXEM::COTESing with the clams, knave!Wed Nov 23 1988 11:374
    I bleeves that "Aftertouch Outtalunch" note was in reference to
    the *YAMAHA* (I have no fear of that word!) user rag....
    
    Edd
1778.4Characteristic of Roland boards.DYO780::SCHAFERBrad - back in Ohio.Wed Nov 23 1988 19:377
    I've played several pieces of Roland gear that exhibit this same
    tendency - you have to press like mad to get any modulation at all. 

    I doubt that it's electronically adjustable - a good keyboard tech
    *might* be able to tweak it, but I wouldn't bet on it. 

-b
1778.5Notesreader turned into KB TechSTKSMA::HALLTake care of your MIDIThu Nov 24 1988 05:015
    Looks like I have to tear it apart to check the mechanics, maybe
    the conductive rubber is replaceable??
    
    Torbjorn
    
1778.6MARVIN::MACHINFri Nov 25 1988 08:544
No insult intended -- but have you checked the after response value
    on the patch(es) you're using?
    
    Richard.
1778.7Adjustable After Touch???STKSMA::HALLTake care of your MIDIFri Nov 25 1988 14:2010
    Eh.. didn't know that after touch response was adjustable. I know
    velocity is but I think after touch is just a MIDI stream indicating
    how hard you press the key(s) after hit. I'll go home and read the
    (very poorly written) manual once more.
    
    BTW, I dont have any cartridge yet so I'm not able to create any
    pacthes, I use it as it is when powered up.
    
    Torbjorn
     
1778.8IF LFO, often turned down to stop accidental modMARVIN::MACHINFri Nov 25 1988 14:395
    What I meant was, I expect each patch decides whether aftertouch 
    modulates LFO, DCA or DCF, and how much. Worth checking the 'how
    much' value.
    
    Richard.
1778.9Another MKB-200, this one is not so difficult to triggerHPSRAD::NORCROSSSun Nov 27 1988 16:129
I use an MKB-200.  I bought it new last Spring.  I would not say that it
     needs body weight to  trigger the aftertouch.  It does take a wrist
     push.

My indicators are a set of  LEDs  which  light  when  the  aftertouch is
     triggered  -  so I can see  exactly  when  it's  triggered  without
     relying on how the patches were programmed.

/Mitch
1778.10After touch is hard.....STKSMA::HALLTake care of your MIDIMon Nov 28 1988 13:2010
    Yeah, I also use visual display (Yamaha MJC8 Patch Bay) and those
    little MIDI output LED's say blink at note on, then I press harder
    and harder.... and when my elbow can't handle more (or I think the
    plastic key will break) the Aftertouch stream shows up on the LED.
    
    As I read from all your good replies (thank you) I believe this
    is not normal to this kind of board. I'll have to check it out more.
    
    Torbjorn
    
1778.11AFTERMUTHAF*LEDDEV::ROSSshiver me timbres....Wed Nov 30 1988 13:5514
    
    Every roland keyboard Ive played has ok action.
    
    AND is an insult to your technique when you try
    to get some aftertouch....
    
    AFTERSQUASH, AFTERMEGAPRESS, AFTERMUSCLETONER....
    
    those are probably trademarks of Roland.
    
    what a shame!
    
    rr
    
1778.12Aftertouch Sensitivity is the KeyDRUMS::FEHSKENSThu Dec 01 1988 13:346
    You gotta set the sensitivity parameters right.  Uhm, you don't
    want the aftertouch to feel mushy, otherwise you can't tell between
    the velocity part of the action and the aftertouch.
    
    len.