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Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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1238.0. "Korg SG1D Sampling Grand "Piano"" by LEDS::ORIN (Ensoniq, is EPS a Mirage?) Tue Mar 08 1988 20:20

I picked up a flier on the Korg SG-1D Sampling Grand from Union Music. This
looks like direct competition for the Kurzweil 250. Here are some specs...

88 weighted keys
all sampled sound sources
12 voices
controls:
  MIDI
  bend
  modulation
  volume
  eq (bass, mid, treble)
  tone (PIANO I, PIANO II, E. PIANO 1, E. PIANO II, CARD)
  brilliance
  chorus (on/off, depth, speed)
  tune
  dynamics
audio outs:
  L/MONO, R, low/high switch
  headphones
control terminals:
  damper
  MIDI in/out/thru
ROM card for extra sounds
weight 33.7 kg = approx. 75 lbs.
optional sound ROM cards:
  harpsichord
  clav
  guitar/bass
  electric piano III
  harp
  electric piano IV

I don't have a price and haven't seen one. Anybody checked one out or
have info on a similar unit?

dave
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1238.1Doesn't a piano with a pitch wheel look silly?HEART::MACHINWed Mar 09 1988 07:1410
    Well, a friend of mine plays solo jazz piano -- he makes his living
    at it. Until now, he's regarded the new electric pianos as not good
    enough for his solo work. But he phoned me the other day and, by
    way of an aside, said he was thinking of getting 'the latest Korg
    piano', since it sounded good enough and was portable. I thought
    at the time he meant one of the Korg pianos I'd tried out, and
    suspected premature softening of the brain. However, this may be
    the one.
    
    Richard.
1238.2sure. Its been around a while.JON::ROSSshiver me timbres....Wed Mar 09 1988 11:4715
    
    Its a nice unit. good sound. good action. try it.
    
    I wouldnt call it in the same league as the K250, 
    since you can sample with the 250, and its priced
    way beyond this Korg.
    
    Altho the Korg has cartridges you can plug in, it
    seems the only ones avail have piano-ish sounds.
    
    Also try the RD series from Roland. Thats the closer
    competition.
    
    ron
    
1238.3New and Maybe ImprovedAQUA::ROSTTush, tush, you lose your pushWed Mar 09 1988 12:595
    
    According to recent advertisements, there is a "new" SG-1D with
    the usual "who knows what" improvements.
    
    
1238.4The new SG1 from KorgHPSCAD::GATULISTue Mar 15 1988 12:0032
The "new" SG1 is supposed to have improved samples over the original.
I thought I read somewhere that they added more memory to get the better
sample capability.  I think you can buy the SG1 for about $1100.

I test drove of one of these a couple of weeks ago and I'll give my personal
opinion:  I thought the keyboard felt really nice and the velocity sense seemed
really smooth. I could get good expression out of the thing.  I think for this
price range the unit is worth considering. There were some things I disliked: 

I thought there was insignificant difference between Piano-I and Piano-II
and the dealer couldn't explain why.  I think the electric piano samples
are Rhodes and Wurlitzers.  No 2 Rhodes sound alike to me and I didn't
care for the one they supply.  The dealer told me that additional RAM
cards are about $70 each.  Seems expensive to me considering that I get
much more data for $7 when I by a floppy for my synth. 

It only has 8 voices.  To me it's very annoying to when your playing a
piece and left hand notes starts dropping out.  They go through all the
trouble to make it sound like an accoustic piano, I think it should 
have at least 16 (or more) voices so you can play piano pieces with all
the notes sustaining as long as they should.

My real interrest is piano and I went in there with the thought of buying an
SG1. I have a DSS-1 and to me the acoustic piano sample of the SG1 sounds
identical to one of the Korg DSS piano samples.  Aside from the piano style
keyboard (which I really liked). In my opinion, the SG1 offers nothing over the
DSS. I reason that before buying an SG-1, you might want to consider a DSS-1.
For about $200 more you get the same "korg piano sound"  plus a lot more (A
real sampler, and a full synth, with 2 built in DDLs for effects). 

Frank