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Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
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1175.0. "Problems with Memory Moog Analog Synthesizer" by MANANA::BIRDSALL () Wed Jan 27 1988 22:33

    Does anybody out there own a Memory Moog? Do you know any one who
    does - in the New England area?
    
    walt
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1175.1One in Birmingham (England)HEART::MACHINThu Jan 28 1988 06:297
    As it happens, I have been looking for a multimoog for ages, and
    last night someone rang me and said he had one for sale -- because
    he'd just bought a memorymoog. I'm afraid it's in the Old England
    area, but if you have any queries, maybe he could help when I visit
    him this weekend...
    
    Richard.
1175.2I know of one in BostonGCLEF::COHENRichard CohenThu Jan 28 1988 11:316
    Erik Lindgren of "Birdsongs of the Mesozoic" uses a MemoryMoog.
    They are a local Boston band that has a national (maybe international)
    following!
    
    	- Rick
    
1175.3Mine's BaroquenMANANA::BIRDSALLThu Jan 28 1988 12:2921
    Re: .1 & .2
    
    Thanks. A trip across the pond to play a Moog... have to think about
    that.
    
    I acquired a Moog recently. I don't have a lot of experience with
    synths but if mine is how a Moog is supposed to sound, there is
    definitely a Yamaha something-or-other in my future. Mine sounds
    terrible: lots of distortion, rumblings in the voltage controlled
    oscillator, tuning instability, etc.
    
    Moog Inc has gone bye-bye. Bob Moog now works for Kurzweil in Mass.
    The resources of Moog were bought up by EJE Research in New York.
    EJE added a MIDI to mine - and then told me that's how Moog's sound.
    
    I have found another tech with experience in Moogs but before I
    put it on the truck (again!) I wanted to play a "reference" machine.
    
    walt
                                       
    
1175.4Moogs have built-in overdriveCTHULU::YERAZUNISExit left to FunwayThu Jan 28 1988 12:5917
    The VCO shouldn't rumble, but the distortion is supposed to be there.
    
    More specifically, most Moogs had a built-in overdrive.  Look in
    the area on the Moog labeled "Mixer".  If any of the sliders are
    over half-way up, you're overdriving.  
    
    Bob Moog built it that way on purpose.
    
    
    And I am looking for anything BUT a Memory Moog or a PolyMoog (I've
    played a PolyMoog and it's fun for a while.  But only a while. 
    Lack of good modulation routing makes me prefer a MicroMoog/Rogue.)
    
    But what I really want is a MiniMoog or a Moog Modular.
                                                                       
    	Anybody selling?
    
1175.5Takes 5 mins to warm up though...HEART::MACHINFri Feb 05 1988 13:147
    RE .-1 :
    
    How about a Multimoog? I just bought one, and it sounds great
    even though it needs a knob or two fixing. You can mod
    most things with most other things -- a real character.
    
    Richard.
1175.6I had my chance - and blew it offDYO780::SCHAFERJust another roadie.Fri Feb 05 1988 14:237
    I had a chance about 4 mos. ago to buy 2 Memory Moog units for around
    $700 for the two of 'em.  I played with one, but wasn't all that
    impressed, and let the deal slide by. 

    Now I'm wondering if this was a stupid thing to do ... 

8-(
1175.7MultiMoog?DSSDEV::HALLGRIMSSONIt's incrementing outside.Fri Feb 05 1988 15:228
    
    What *was* a MultiMoog.  I think I must have blinked and missed
    this one.  I recall the Poly, the Memory, the Micro (played one
    once) etc, but I draw a blank here.
    
    Eirikur  (Who remembers the Sonic-6)
    
    
1175.8Multimoog WAS 800 pounds...HUNEY::MACHINMon Feb 08 1988 08:2710
    Multimoog is a two-osc minimoog, with aftertouch on the keyboard
    and a ribbon controller rather than a wheel for pitch. Like the
    mini, later revs stay in tune. 'Multi' refers to the extra source
    for controlling modulation -- the aftertouch. Very expressive, and
    capable of many classic moog tones.
    
    Byt the way, if anyone needs them I have circuit diagrams for the
    1978 rev. (These also show the board that's in the Micromoog).
               
    Richard.
1175.9MemoryMoog OwnerVALUES::LINCEThu Jun 16 1988 20:5618
    I just bought a MemoryMoog for around 4 bills. (no midi) - It has
    been sitting since it was new in a music store in Atlanta and each
    time I went in there to try and buy it they would ask too much
    1,200.00! So I called them last week and made a offer and wala they
    took it. Unfortunatly UPS - dropped the box and killed it! A few
    keys are now broke and no output... I had to reseat the power supply
    board AFTER I turned it on and SMOKE. I think it's now dead. I am
    really pissed. I've been looking for a MemoryMoog for a while as
    I collect analog synths.
    
    	This one is mint - now if I can just get it going... Anybody
    wanna fix it for me ?? I'll pay going rate. I don't trust music
    repair shoppes.
    
    In the Boston area.
    
    Jim
    
1175.10'course you can't really replace it...AKOV88::EATONDNo, no, no... 47!!Thu Jun 16 1988 21:191
Have you filed a claim with the shipping company?
1175.11Do you want a referral?CTHULU::YERAZUNISPeople explode all the time. Natural causes.Fri Jun 17 1988 13:4010
    If UPS dropped it, UPS now owns it.  Call them up!
    
    -----
    
    If you want it repaired, I can dig up a place that does very good
    work on the old Moogs and Prophets.  They're expensive, but they
    do a _good_ job.  (Friend of mine bought a Mini-moog for $150, and
    spent $500 getting it to work- but it now works perfectly).
    	
    	-Bill
1175.12say, 15000 dollars they owe you?MARVIN::MACHINFri Jun 17 1988 13:434
    ...and if UPS (or whoever) owns it, a memorymoog 10 years ago cost
    about 8000 pounds so YIPPPEEEEEE!
    
    Richard.
1175.13Was it insured?DREGS::BLICKSTEINYo!Fri Jun 17 1988 13:447
>    If UPS dropped it, UPS now owns it.  Call them up!
    
    Uh... to my understanding, not true.
    
    Not if it wasn't insured.
    
    	db
1175.14Not funny, I knowMARVIN::MACHINFri Jun 17 1988 13:494
    Now if you lived in California, you could sue the State for making
    the ground too hard.
    
    Richard.
1175.15Bozos! Clowns! Marketing Analysts!CTHULU::YERAZUNISPeople explode all the time. Natural causes.Fri Jun 17 1988 13:5430
    You mean it.. it... it...
    
    	it WASN'T INSURED????
    
    			Auughghghghhghhhmmmmmmglugglugglug!
    
    
    Bring on the sackcloth and ashes!  Out with the incense and bay
    leaves.  
    
    Try calling the store.  Tell them it "did not arrive in operable
    condition."  They may be able to do something.  Then again, probably
    they won't.  Some bozo may get fired for shipping something valuable
    without insurance.  But then again, that bozo deserves it.          
    
    -----
    
    	Here's what ya' do.  Call (401)353-6221 (it's a Pro-audio 
    store down in Providence.  They don't do KB's or anything, just
    pro audio).  Ask for George the Third.  Ask George where he got
    his Mini-Moog fixed.
    
    Have plastic handy.  :-(
    
    -----
    
    Or, you could sell it as-is to one of us.  :-)
    
    	-Bill
                                                              
1175.16Try Secret ServiceDYO780::SCHAFERBrad - DTN 433-2408Fri Jun 17 1988 15:4117
    If this is the Jim Lince that I talked to years ago, welcome back! (If
    not, never mind.) 

    If you got the thing from American or Rhythm City in Atlanta, good luck
    getting anything out of them.  They're owned by the same guy, and I
    will *NEVER* buy anything from them ever again.  In any event, I'm
    inclined to believe that the shipper will pick up at least some of the
    cost of fixing this.  You can't blame lousy packing for broken keys ...
    it takes a heck of a wallop to break those babies. 

    If you don't mind shipping it (again), there is a place in Cincinnati,
    OH that does fabulous repair work.  They're called Secret Service, and
    the number is 513-541-2292.  Ask for Bob.  They did my OB-Xa right. 

    Good luck on getting it fixed.

-b
1175.17who said it wasn't insuredVALUES::LINCEMon Jun 20 1988 20:5125
    Thanks for the replies.
    
    	Brad - Yes it's me. I also have a BEAUTIFUL OB-8 (mint) . I
    love it (if a person can 'love' a thing). WHo said it was not insured
    ??? Not me. Of course it was insured. I just don't wanna send it
    to some clown. I want it done right. UPS is doing thier insurance
    thing.. I ain't shipping that thing anywhere ever again! Not until
    I get a flight case.
    
    	BTW I just got a Prophet-5 MIDI. Mint . What a machine. Yes
    I'm hard-core analog. 
    
    RE: .16 - Brad you know George !! What a character. You really have
    to watch your rear around him & crew. AMERICAN is even worse! THats
    where they send all the bad doobies.
    
    	I've bought alot of stuff from George and I've had *reasonable*
    success. You really have to get mad and demonstrate it to get George
    to help you.
    
    	Thanks for the info Guys - Addresses are noted, now to get 3,000
    dollars from UPS..... (pain and suffering - staring at a dead synth).
    
    Jim
    
1175.18FinallyODIXIE::LINCEFri Dec 06 1991 18:2032
    Hi -
    
    I'm still here!!!! Who has some MEMORYMOOG patches to swap ???
    
    The previous story finally finished with a $450 dollar check from UPS
    and still a dead memorymoog. It would cost way too much to get
    repaired as I found out. So, I tried to fix it myself... Well I got it
    to fire up, and I fixed a couple of bad OSC's , but still it is not
    perfect. So.... a nice paper weight...
    
    	Around the spring of 1990, I saw an ad for a Memorymoog plus for
    500.00 (that's right $500.00). I went to look at it and it was
    GEORGIOUS!!!!! Not a scratch (like it had been stored), latest revs and
    MIDI to boot! 
    
    	So I am the (finally) proud owner of a working Memorymoog and am
    looking for some interesting patches for it...
    
    	I still have the other Memorymoog which needs some help and would
    consider a trade it for another analog plus cash on my end.
    
    	I am looking for: A OB Expander...
    			  A Jupiter 6 (must have MIDI)
    			  OB8 Midi Kit
    			  OB DX Stretch Drum Machine with MIDI
    
    	It's probably worth $200.00. It looks great, just acts sick.
    
    Whatever, Thanks everyone
    
    Jim