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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
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Number of topics:2852
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1159.0. "Recommendation - Roland JUNO106 For First Synth?" by MODEL::POMFRET () Tue Jan 19 1988 20:24

I am just starting into computer music and really dont know a 
whole lot about it and do not have a midi-synthesizer yet.

But, I have an opportunity to buy a Roland Juno-106 for $600
and attach it to my Mac+.(strictly for home recreational use)

Is this a good way to start for the money or are there newer synthesizers
with more capability for the same price?  Is the Mac-Juno a good match?
How's the service for Roland?  Is the Juno-106 a fairly popular unit
with lots of patches?

Thanks for any information.   George
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1159.1SALSA::MOELLERTue Jan 19 1988 22:1419
    Well, George, the Juno-106 has some great analog synth sounds.
    However, it has some major drawbacks for use with a Mac.. you would
    wish to get some s/w for the Mac that allows multipart recording,
    and you would wish to hear those multiparts playing back thru
    different timbres.
    
    So the Juno 106 is MONO-timbral.. it will play 6 notes at one time,
    but they will all be the same timbre.. all 'string' notes, for example.
    
    Another problem percieved with the Juno is its lack of velocity
    sensing. That is, as you record from it into the Mac, all notes
    would be the EXACT same volume.    
    
    However, if you wish to play live and/or forget recording with the
    Mac, the Juno 106 is fairly popular, as it was one of the first
    commercially available MIDI synthesizers. I'm not convinced that
    $600 is a real deal, but I'm not a Juno owner.
    
    karl
1159.2A bit steep...JAWS::COTE0 for 19Wed Jan 20 1988 11:126
    The 106 is a nice analog synth, but $600 is too much to pay. Under
    $500 would be permissable, under $400 is a good deal.
    
    6 note polyphony is also a bit limiting if it's your only synth.
    
    Edd
1159.3How about a CZ1?HPSTEK::RHODESWed Jan 20 1988 11:547
There is a Casio CZ1 in the want ads this week for $600.  Velocity sensitive.
Aftertouch sensitive.  8/16 voice.  Multitimbral.

Lots of synth for the money...

Todd.

1159.4A 106 owner speaksCLULES::SPEEDRacks are de rigeurWed Jan 20 1988 13:2021
    As a Juno-106 owner, I would agree with Edd's comments that $600
    is overpriced given the current technology.  I only paid $800 when
    I bought mine new almost 4 years ago.
    
    It's a great synth, but you should talk the person down on price.  Also,
    if you like the Juno, you should look into the newer versions of
    it, the Alpha Juno-1 and Alpha Juno-2.  I believe the major differences
    between the two are as follows:
    
    	Juno-1 receives velocity info via MIDI, but does not have a
    	velocity sensitive keyboard or transmit velocity data via MIDI.  
    	4 octave keyboard.
    
    	Juno-2 receives velocity info via MIDI, has a velocity sensitive
    	keyboard, and transmits velocity data via MIDI. 5 octave keyboard
    	(same as the Juno-106).
    
    Any Alpha-Juno owners out there, please correct me if the info above
    is incorrect.
    
    		Derek
1159.5An 106 EX-owner speaks...AKOV88::EATONDWed Jan 20 1988 13:4210
	I would highly recommend a Juno 106 as a first synth.  It is an ideal
instrument to learn synthesis on, since all the controls are right up front
for easy twiddling.
	But, as others have said, $600 is way too much.  The replacement for
the 106 is the HR-60, the only difference is there is a set of speakers built
into the casement of the instrument.  These are selling brand new in Boston for
about $650.

	Dan

1159.6CRASH-chick-chick-chick...AKOV88::EATONDWed Jan 20 1988 13:528
< Note 1159.5 by AKOV88::EATOND >

>the 106 is the HR-60, the only difference is there is a set of speakers built

	Or is that the HS-60... I dunno, I must have drums on my mind...

	Dan

1159.7Shop around.BOLT::BAILEYSteph BaileyWed Jan 20 1988 17:1510
    re: .6: HS-60.                          
    
    The Alpha Junos have some minor differences in the voice architecture
    from that of the Juno-106.
    
    You should be able to get a Juno-106 for $300.  Personally, I'd
    look for something else (the CZ1 sounds like a good deal, or get
    a REAL roland analog, like a Jupiter-6.)
    
    Steph
1159.8Any other 1st synth candidatesMODEL::POMFRETWed Jan 20 1988 17:1512
    This is good information, thank you very much.
    
    Are there any other synths I should consider in that price range
    (600-800).
    
    So far the list of considerations is :
    
    		CZ1
    		Alpha Juno 1, Alph Juno 2
    		HS-60
    
    thanks-- George
1159.9So I'm biased, so whatSRFSUP::MORRISKill Tipper GoreWed Jan 20 1988 18:0317
    
    This is personal preference, not the gospel.
    
    I have an AKAI AX-80 and i love it.  5 octaves, velocity sensitivity,
    8 voices, full MIDI, 2 wheels, 96 on-board programs, and the best
    sounding analog piano you can find (or I have found)....
    
    I hear they're going for about 550, as is the AX-60 - 4 octaves,
    and plenty of knobs.
    
    Another great thing about the AX-80 is that you can see all of the
    parameters for the entire patch, instead of just a 2 digit LED
    display, thanks to the fluorescent display.
    
    All analog oscillators, digital control, 3osc per voice.
    
    Ashley