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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2852
Total number of notes:33157

941.0. "Yamaha TX81z - Mapping Modulators" by JON::ROSS (synapses unite ! ) Thu Sep 10 1987 18:07

    
    Help!!!!
    
    I've been trying to get "aftertouch to breath controller" to 
    work on my new tx81z to no avail....
    
    It should modulate operators or pitch or whatever you set up
    assuming the "a.t. to b.c." is enabled.
    
    have rev 1.4 FWare.
    
    have proven that my kbd is sending 0xD0,nn,.... which complies
    with midi aftertouch message on channel 1....
    
    Dealer no help (no expertise)
    Yamaha says its the kbd (arg! wrong! )
    
    has anyone actually gotten this feature to work?
    
    FRUSTRATED_ron
    
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941.1The nincompoop strikes again!PLDVAX::JANZENTom LMO2/O23 2965421Thu Sep 10 1987 18:268
>< Note 941.0 by JON::ROSS "synapses unite ! " >
>>    
>    I've been trying to get "aftertouch to breath controller" to 
>    work on my new tx81z to no avail....

Try Certs.
8-)
Tom
941.2AKOV76::EATONDFinally, a piano.Thu Sep 10 1987 18:386
RE < Note 941.0 by JON::ROSS "synapses unite ! " >

	Hey, Ron!  When'dya get the TX?  Remeber those discussions over VAXMail 
when it first came out?

	Dan
941.3we are talkin turkey, turkeysJON::ROSSsynapses unite ! Thu Sep 10 1987 20:0721
    
    thanks so far guys....
    
    had it a coupla weeks. P.25 of the manual says that it will
    interpret aftertouch messages as breath controller, which
    then can modulate various parameters according to the patch.
    
    Im pretty sure mine aint workin....and would sure like to find
    someone with the same problem, or prove that it's my unit. Sure
    seems like it dont work as advertised.
    
    Cleaner output than Fb01, some great sounds, but Im peeved....
    
    Can anyone verify out there that your DX7 or other Yamaha kbd
    uses MIDI SPECIFIED aftertouch message? (hex D0,nn) and not
    some other 'special' message????????????????????????????
    
    AYYYEEEEEEE!
    
    rr
    
941.4aftertouch is AxSAUTER::SAUTERJohn SauterThu Sep 10 1987 20:169
    The MIDI-specified aftertouch message is Ax, which is followed by
    two bytes: key number and pressure.  The DX7 sends Dx, which is
    channel pressure, followed by only one type: the pressure.
    
    If your unit needs Ax you are out of luck--the DX7 doesn't send
    it.  As far as I know only fairly high-end units send the Ax message,
    because it requires a pressure sensor for each key.  The Dx message
    only requires a single pressure sensor for the keyboard.
        John Sauter
941.5Suck Squeeze Bang Blow!MINDER::KENTFri Sep 11 1987 07:538
    
    
    I can certainly send Aftertouch from My Kx88 to an Fb01. I haven't
    tried it with the breath controller. Have you sussed out the difference
    between poly and mono aftertouch. You may be sending the wrong
    controller. Alternatively give up smoking and blow harder !
    
    				Paul.
941.6humble pie, served here...JON::ROSSsynapses unite ! Fri Sep 11 1987 13:4920
    well, er, {humbleness}...
    
    It seems to work last night. Heres the scoop:
    
    yes there is channel A.T. and poly A.T. Both my keyboards
    send out Poly AT which is hex Dx,nn; where x is the midi channel.
    The only board I know of that does Channel AT is the Kurzweil...
    (I guess that's Ax,nn).
    
    No, paul, we aint got a BC....the tx81z will remap AT into BC if
    you turn this on...and then you can control pitchbend,vibrato,tremolo,
    and certain envelope generator functions WITH AFTERTOUCH. Neat.
    But...the voice that is used needs to have those parameters enabled
    for BC...and I GUESS thats what I wasnt doing, tho I swear I tried
    everything...
    
    Remember the Demo disk in Aftertouch Mag. with the wind controller
    doing an AMAZING lead guitar? We is tracking this down. Stay tuned.
    
    rr
941.7Plop, plop, fizz, fizz, oh what a relief it is...ECADSR::SHERMANbut I DID simulate...sort of...Fri Sep 11 1987 14:374
    Whew! Had me scared for a moment!  Don't wanna have ta trade in
    my Z! ;^)
    
    Steve
941.8BARNUM::RHODESMon Sep 14 1987 12:2710
>    Remember the Demo disk in Aftertouch Mag. with the wind controller
>    doing an AMAZING lead guitar? 

No.  Someone was gonna mail it to me and never did.  Listen, I have no choice
but to take you off my list of recipients for my limited autographed edition
of Simmon's White Sonata in many harmonic keys.

Lose face.

Todd.
941.9I Thought That Was By Scriabin?DRUMS::FEHSKENSWed Sep 16 1987 13:424
    Hey Todd, how do I get *on* the list?
    
    len.
    
941.10Well, I actually could do it...BARNUM::RHODESThu Sep 17 1987 12:303
Well, uh, there really isn't a list.  Don't tell Ron tho...

Todd.
941.11JON::ROSSMicro-11: The VAX RISCThu Sep 17 1987 15:036
    
    ok. I'll put you back on mine then.
    
    whats this note about again?
    
    rr
941.12Another TX81Z funny...GCLEF::COHENRichard CohenFri Oct 16 1987 18:396
    Another interesting note on the TX81Z (V1.5 ROMs anyway). The stereo
    headphone jack is mono unless you have something plugged into output
    II (it can be a dummy plug).
    
    	- Rick
    
941.13Where's the right???JAWS::COTEBored with WBR'n'R...Fri Oct 16 1987 19:184
    Does this necessitate removing the dummy if you're using output
    I in MIX mode???
    
    Edd
941.14.*.HAMER::COCCOLI2nd shift in NYCThu Dec 01 1988 01:582
    what is this note about??? huh?? come on..tell us.