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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
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858.0. "Wind Controllers for Synthesizers" by REGENT::SCHMIEDER () Mon Jul 06 1987 15:35

I forget which magazine I saw it in, but I think it was a new publication.

Yamaha is coming out with a saxophone-based MIDI controller!  It's real sexy 
looking, solid black, size of a sopranino saxophone.  Price and release date 
have not been confirmed yet.  From the article, it was confusing whether this 
replaces the BC-1 or whether something else is replacing the BC-1, but the 
BC-1 is definitely being phased out.


				Mark
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858.1Yamaha WX-7PHUBAR::WELLSLeft of CenterMon Jul 06 1987 16:2512
    A recent rec.music.synth posting describing summer '87 NAMM product
    introductions identifies this as the WX-7, `a midi lyricon-like
    wind controller'.
    
    The BC-1 is only usable by DX synths that have breath controller
    inputs, right?  Are there any breath controllers out there that
    simply output MIDI signals?  I.e. I could merge the output of said
    controller with a keyboard (that doesn't have a breath controller
    input) and send them to a tone module.
    
    Richard
    
858.2REGENT::SCHMIEDERMon Jul 06 1987 18:379
The WX-7 is said to output MIDI signals, though I think I read it has to be 
hooked up to a rack-mount box, that's part of the WX-7 package, in order to 
do so.

I see lyricons listed on album credits all the time.  What are they?  Is it 
another word for sopranino saxophone, or are they similar?


				Mark
858.3Lyricon not A Sopranino SaxAQUA::ROSTFour strings are better than sixMon Jul 06 1987 19:1516
    
    Re: .2
    
    A Lyricon was a wind synthesizer built a few years ago.  It looked
    like the top half of a soprano sax (that is, short) and plugged
    into a controller box which doubled as a case.  It had primitive
    (by today's standards) mono-synth functions.
    
    A sopranino sax is just a sax voiced higher than a soprano.  
    
    A very good example of lyricon is on the first Shadowfax album on
    Windham Hill.  The lyricon is used on all the cuts where the soprano
    sax is not used and should be easily identified (there are no keyboard
    synths on the album).
    
    
858.4Longer than "few"KRYPTN::JASNIEWSKIThu Jul 09 1987 15:287
    
    	Re .3
    
    	"a few years ago" - like the minimoog era...
    
    	Joe Jas
    
858.5unb'liev'bleJON::ROSSNetwork partner excited first try!{pant}Mon Jul 13 1987 14:5914
    I urge everyone to hear the demo of the Wx7 and TX81z combo
    in the june AFTERTOUCH publication. 
    
    It blew me away.
    
    We forget how hard it is to get nuance out of a keyboard. Theres
    much more needed besides pushing down a key at a certain velocity.

    The Wx must(?) have sensors for tonguing (triggers), air pressure
    and/or breath velocity and key-to-note info. BUT what it might also
    have is key pressure and 'mouthpiece bite' pressure sensors....
    
    The thing plays a lead guitar (with the tx81z) that impresses.....
    
858.6Manufacturer's publication?FDCV01::ARVIDSONSay *NO* to anti-taping chips!!!Mon Jul 13 1987 15:094
Can AFTERTOUCH be bought at the local magazine store or is it a Yamaha
publication?

Dan
858.7Enter a title for your reply:JAWS::COTEAny major dude will tell you...Mon Jul 13 1987 16:498
    It's a Yamapublication.
    
    I have some subscription forms if you want one.
    
    The subscription is free. The forms however, will cost you dearly.
    ;^)
    
    Edd
858.8Entered.FDCV01::ARVIDSONSay *NO* to anti-taping chips!!!Mon Jul 13 1987 17:026
RE:-1
	Ohhh!  And what, my dear noter, might that price be?  Let's see
I have a couple pennies OH! here's a nickel that makes seven cents, or
maybe a couple marbles, could you use some marbles?  8-)

Dan
858.9billions and billions...JON::ROSSNetwork partner excited first try!{pant}Tue Jul 14 1987 12:2710
    
    I know Daddy's Nashua has them in piles by the door. 
    
    It's a help-yourself. Then you can subscribe using the
    little card inside....
    
    I wonder how many folks are on the list...
    
    rr
    
858.10Aftertouch afterawhileECADSR::SHERMANone rubber nose!Tue Jul 14 1987 13:185
    I'm on the list, I think, seein's how I've sent in the form.  But,
    I have yet to receive my first issue, and it's been a coupla months.
    Gee, wonder if I'm missing anything? ;-)
    
    Steve
858.11Amazing AftertouchFGVAXU::MASHIACrescent City KidTue Jul 14 1987 14:059
    I'm a subscriber too.  I was pretty amazed by the demo.  I thought
    the electric bass (from the DX7II?) sounded like a funkmeister gone
    wild.  The whole thing was *very* impressive.
    
    Being a wind player (flute), I'd love to get my hands (and mouth!)
    on one of those controllers.  Neat stuff.
    
    Rodney M.
    
858.12analog synths had single/multiple triggerJON::ROSSNetwork partner excited first try!{pant}Wed Jul 15 1987 14:0812
    
    NOTE WELL the implication of tounging and sluring. SOMEHOW
    they translate those gestures for midi use. 
    
    Guitarists dont pick every note...
    
    ANYONE have a midi kbd that doesnt trigger everytime you press
    a key?
    

    ron
    
858.13That's not a bug!!!!JAWS::COTEI love it when you dBASE me...Wed Jul 15 1987 15:187
    > Anyone have a midi kbd that doesnt trigger everytime....
    
    Would you consider that a feature?!?!?!?!?
    
    You otta be in marketing!!!
    
    Edd
858.14..or could it be.. SATAN?SALSA::MOELLERWed Jul 15 1987 19:127
    I also noticed that the recent KEYBOARD mag article on wind MIDI
    cntrollers did not give Steinberg Research's contact address...
    although I hear they make the premier units.
    
    Could it be because Steinberg doesn't ADVERTISE in KEYBOARD?
    
    karl
858.15Akai/Steiner Reviewed in Feb 88 EMAQUA::ROSTThat woman liked long neck bottlesThu Feb 04 1988 12:329
    
    The February 88 issue of ELECTRONIC MUSICIAN has  nice in-depth
    look at the Akai/Steiner system.  They discuss why it's a synth
    package instead of a straight MIDI controller like the WX-7.
    
    Worth reading if you're at all intersted in articulation, phrasing
    and expression (which should be anybody!!)