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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2852
Total number of notes:33157

850.0. "Effects (FX): Reverb..erb..erb..erb" by ECADSR::SHERMAN (one rubber nose!) Tue Jun 30 1987 17:07

    I've been in the market (sort of) for a good, cheap, quiet reverb
    unit.  The poor soul who advertized a Midverb for $150 a while back
    was also tormented (though briefly) by yours truly, I'm afraid.
    Anyway, I notice that Rogue Music has been advertizing used Furman
    (probably RV-1) for about $95 (down from about $150), Orban 111B
    reverb for $200, and Alesis XT Reverb for $265.  Does anybody have
    any info on these?  Any recommendations?  I've also seen a Midiverb
    on the net for about $200.  Anybody know what the Midiverb 2 goes
    for and maybe whether it gives you as much bang for the buck?  Just
    interested.  Thanks!
    
    Steve_who's_sick_of_his_Radio_Trash_special
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850.1Spring Has SprungAQUA::ROSTFour strings are better than sixTue Jun 30 1987 18:3022
    
    Re: .0
    
    Of the used verbs you mentioned, only the Alesis XT and Midiverb
    are digital, the others are springs, which can be OK but if you
    can afford the extra bucks, the digital will give you better sound
    in most cases and *definitely* will prevent spring crashes...
    
    Midiverb 2 lists for $395, some people have reported them down in
    the $300 range.  The 2 does everything the original does, plus adds
    delay, echo, chorus effects and is rack-mountable out of the box
    (the original Midiverb required rack-mount adapters).  There are
    notes on these including reviews elsewhere in this file, check the
    directory.
    
    If you're on a tight budget, need only reverb (no dealy, flange,
    echo, etc.) the Microverb from Alesis at $249 list, around $200
    if you nose around, is small, easy to use and sounds killer.
    
    As far as springs go, I have used the Furman and it is real nice
    for a spring unit.
    
850.2more verbsECADSR::SHERMANone rubber nose!Wed Jul 01 1987 01:5311
    Thanks.  That's what I needed to hear.  My birthday's coming up
    and I've been dropping hints to my wife.  I can get effects with
    the other stuff I've got.  The specs on the Microverb look like
    it should be good (stereo, 16 bits, don't know about bandwidth),
    but this is the first time I've noticed response from someone who's
    actually heard it.  It does have reverse and a couple of gate presets,
    so maybe it won't be so bad.  I'm not into springs.  Maybe my ol'
    buddy Shane (Profound Sound) can quote me a good price.  I'll keep
    y'all posted if you have interest.
    
    Steve_the_penniless
850.3EMERLD::DUBEDan Dube 264-4373Wed Jul 01 1987 12:587
Steve,

AVOID the Alesis XT reverb. Noisy, noisy, noisy! and the quality 
of the reverb isn't that good, either.

-Dan

850.4Don't forget ART ProverbNEDVAX::DPOWELLUh, how do you tune this thing?Wed Jul 01 1987 13:146
    
You might want to consider the ART Proverb as well. Has 99 presets
(various reverb lengths, chorus, gated, reverse, echo and delay efx),
is stereo, rackmountable, and lists for 345. Most places selling it for
~275.
Dan
850.5MIDIVERB II all the way!SUBSYS::GLORIOSOWed Jul 01 1987 18:4212
    Go with the MIDIVERB II !   I just got one about a month ago for
    $310.00 from Ace Music in Miami by mail.   It's got everything you'll
    probably ever need and more.  (See other notes for features)  
    In comparison with the proverb I think the MV II beats it hands
    down.   Proverb is only 10k bandwidth and the MV II is 15k.  The
    Chorus presets are very rich and have a very smooth stereo field.
    Even the longest verb settings are smooth.   Another nice effect
    is the double and single tapped delays where the signal pans between
    channels!
    
    			Good Luck.....spend the extra buck.
    
850.6It's only money....money...moneyECADSR::SHERMANone rubber nose!Wed Jul 01 1987 19:568
    Okay, Midiverb II it is (if my wife will get it, and I'm pretty
    sure she's already ordered it).   Shane quoted me $325 for it. 
    He's already saved me money before, so I figure the differnce won't
    kill me.  He told me he carried the Proverb, Midiverb II, and Microverb
    and had the best to say about the Midiverb II.  Gee, turning 30 may
    not be so bad after all...
    
    Steve
850.7he was a merry ole soul!WEFXEM::DEBARROSThu Jul 02 1987 19:1340
< Note 850.0 by ECADSR::SHERMAN "one rubber nose!" >
                           -< REVERB..erb..erb..erb >-
 
    I've been in the market (sort of) for a good, cheap, quiet reverb
    unit.  The poor soul who advertized a Midverb for $150 a while back
    was also tormented (though briefly) by yours truly, I'm afraid.
    Anyway, I notice that Rogue Music has been advertizing used Furman
    (probably RV-1) for about $95 (down from about $150), Orban 111B
    reverb for $200, and Alesis XT Reverb for $265.  Does anybody have
    any info on these?  Any recommendations?  I've also seen a Midiverb
    on the net for about $200.  Anybody know what the Midiverb 2 goes
    for and maybe whether it gives you as much bang for the buck?  Just
    interested.  Thanks!
    
    Steve_who's_sick_of_his_Radio_Trash_special



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    well, im the poor soul that advertised the midiverb for $150.  I 
    have a midiverb II 16 bit microprocessor unit. I love it.  It is
    very clean sounding with gated,delay,flanger,chorus,efx type effects.
    I sold the midiverb I so i could by another midiverbII but instead I
    got a tune-up for my car.  It runs 399.00/ which I feel is well worth
    the money. 

    just a poor souls opinion!!












850.8My best friend came through!ECADSR::SHERMANone rubber nose!Tue Jul 14 1987 13:249
    My wife gave me the Midiverb II yesterday, deciding not to wait
    for my birthday (!).  YYEEEAAAHHHHH!  Nice box.  Nice sound.  You
    know, in spite of it all, I feel like my system is pretty complete
    now.  Perhaps that's only a temporary feeling, but I'm pretty content.
    It's really a blessing to have equipment that's good enough to do
    just about anything my little heart wants.  Now, if I can just find
    a little more TIME...time...time
    
    Steve_the_currently_content
850.9EnjoyDREGS::BLICKSTEINDaveTue Jul 14 1987 15:264
    Enjoy this contented feeling while it lasts because....  it never
    does (last).
    
    	db
850.10MTBLUE::BOTTOM_DAVIDNot so famous rock starThu Nov 12 1987 13:3211
    I just ordered a Midiverb II from Profound sound (thnx Shane). Still
    getting $325 for them. I liked the courteous service and time that
    he was willing to spend with me, even though this took three days
    (they are a bit backlogged due to holiday season and vacations on
    their staff, I was a bit frustrated by this but perservered and
    got good service)
    
    This is a good outfit to deal with on the phone....now I can't wait
    until the verb shows up!
    
    dave
850.11Problem with MidiVerb IMUNCSS::BURKEFri Dec 16 1988 08:3414
    I have a problem with my newly-acquired second-hand MidiVerb I (yes
    I). Can anyone help ?
    Setup (in brief):  Roland TR505 drums into the MidiVerb, with the
    Atari ST in the driving seat.
    While the TR505 is banging the drums, the Midiverb seems to be
    switching off/on the reverb effect (Note-on/Note-off messages ?). 
    Sounds terrible. I have no choice but to cut the MidiVerb out of the 
    MIDI circuit, and operate the front panel manually. Since it's a
    MIDI machine, this method of operation is not at all satisfactory.
    I want to change reverb patches and/or switch off/on the reverb
    from my sequencer file. 
    Anybody any ideas ?
    
    Jim Burke 
850.12DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVIDEveryday I got the bluesFri Dec 16 1988 10:574
    Which effect do you have selected? Some of the flange programs are
    triggered flanges (I think, MVII owner..)
    
    dbii
850.13Patch change commands, too.DYO780::SCHAFERBrad - back in Ohio.Fri Dec 16 1988 12:1914
850.14SALSA::MOELLERRichard Clayderman wannabeFri Dec 16 1988 14:5612
    I too have the original MIDIverb (also -fex).. it powers up listening
    to MIDI channel 1.  if you don't manually change it then it'll follow
    any patch changes you send to channel 1.  It will NOT respond in
    any way to note info.
    
    So I'm puzzled by the cyclic nature of its problem.  Mine sounds
    crappy if overdriven.  As I would have to adjust the MIDI channel
    every time it's powered on , AND remember to imbed a patch change
    meant for the reverb in each and every sequence, I've just left
    it and the MIDIfex out of my MIDI network.
    
    karl
850.15Y* R100DFLAT::DICKSONPlan data flows firstThu Jan 12 1989 12:455
Anybody know anything about the Yamaha R100 reverb?  It is part of their
"Personal Studio" line.  It is in a tiny box only slightly larger than a
MicroVerb.  More settings though.  It is reviewed in the July 88 issue of
"Home & Studio Recording" which I have not seen.  (Anybody have a copy they
could xerox and send me?  The SPX50D review in the same issue too.)
850.16I'll find out more for you and post it here.MAY10::DIORIOThu Jan 12 1989 14:237
    
    A friend of mine has and R100. Something like 60 presets, but some
    parameters of the presets can be altered, I believe. I think it's
    in the $200+ range. I will try to find out for sure. I wouldn't compare
    it to a Microverb. 
                                                         
    Mike D