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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Moderator:DYPSS1::SCHAFER
Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2852
Total number of notes:33157

637.0. "Klaus Schultze and Tangerine Dream" by MDR01::RUBEN () Fri Jan 09 1987 08:59

    Just interested in KLAUS SCHULZE records. Anyone wanting to exchange
    with me some info on the guy? Anyone interested in ASHRA TEMPLE?
    Anyone ever heard of Soviet electronic music group Stunim Obak?
    Please, mail me to MDR01::RUBEN.
    TANGERINE DREAMERS ARE WELLCOME TO THE MOST!!!!!
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637.1BARNUM::RHODESFri Jan 09 1987 17:576
Hi Ruben.  I too have similar electronic/computer music tastes.

Who is Ashra Temple?  An offshoot of TD?

Todd.

637.2Some info.BEAGLE::MULELIDSat Jan 10 1987 00:2616
    By accident I just read about two albums by Klaus Schulze released
    on CD. That is "Irrlicht" A.V.I. CD 2001 and "Picture Music" A.V.I.
    CD 2003.  Irrlicht is recorded in 1972 and have the subtitle "Quadro-
    phoniche Symphonie fur Orchester und E-Machine". He used an organ,
    guitar and some percusion, and than a Polymoog. "Picture Music"
    is from 1973, and here he used ARP 2600, ARP Odyssey, EMS VCS 3
    and a Farfisa organ. Other albums are "Black Dance" and "Timewind"
    
    I have never heard any of these albums, so I have no clue of how
    it sounds.
    
    Source "Music Video Systemes" which is a french "MIDI-Home studio-
    Video" magazine.
    
    Svein.
    
637.3<YOU'LL LOVE ASHRA>MDR01::RUBENMon Jan 12 1987 10:1535
637.4questions for the electronic subconsciousBARNUM::RHODESMon Jan 12 1987 13:0411
Love those colorful descriptions, Ruben.  Keep 'em coming...

>    your inner part in the brain. NEW AGE OF EARTH is a sonic colorful
>    glide over iced oceans, tangram landscapes, endless skies...
Is this New Age of Earth an ensemble name, or the name of an album by
Ashra?

Using your expressive descriptions, can you describe the band Stunim Obak?

Todd.

637.5<Stunim Obak will play in the Final Trial>MDR01::RUBENMon Jan 12 1987 14:0756
637.6NOVA::RAVANTue Jan 13 1987 13:223
    Please take this discussion to the MUSIC notes file.
    
    -jim, COMMUSIC moderator
637.7poetic licenseGNERIC::ROSSdont shoot the MKS20 player!Tue Jan 13 1987 14:305
    
    please dont.
    
    rjr
    
637.8<Acoustic palette to paint colorfull music>MDR01::RUBENWed Jan 14 1987 06:1072
637.9??STAR::MALIKKarl MalikWed Jan 14 1987 15:417
    Ruben,
    
    	What is this 'Electronic Opera' by Stockhausen?  Do you
    perchance mean 'Hymnen'?  Or 'Song of the Youth' (can't remember
    how to spell the German, 'Gesang der Junglinges' or something
    like that)?
    							- Karl
637.10<Partially right there, Karl>MDR01::RUBENThu Jan 15 1987 05:5229
637.12Synthesized music and the SubconsciousBARNUM::RHODESThu Jan 15 1987 13:0324
Late night, eh Tom.

Ruben, the link between TD's synthesized music and the subconscious mind 
is exactly why I view TD as pioneers in using electronic/synthesized music
for creating subconscious visual imagery.  This is the very reason that
they were interested in creating movie soundtracks.  Unfortunately, some
of their worst music was generated for soundtracks, simply because movies
are created for the sole purpose of making money, and in this respect TD
are fish out of water.  Their music is best left as an entirely auditory 
experience, in which the visual imagery is left up to the creativity of 
the mind...

Their use of color and timbres in their music (again, except for most of their
soundtracks) is very carefully chosen.  Most people who don't understand
that the intent of their music is to *communicate with* the mind, rather
than *dictate to* the mind, don't appreciate their use of electronic
instruments or their music.

RE: Jim
I feel that although this topic doesn't pertain directly to computer music,
that it is of interest to a large percentage of readers of this conference.
Comments?

Todd.
637.13<I agree, Todd>MDR01::RUBENThu Jan 15 1987 13:4240
637.14blue skys with pink swirls of...GNERIC::ROSSdont shoot the MKS20 player!Thu Jan 15 1987 15:049
    opinion: we *are* talking computer music here.
    

    its a refreshment to break from the discussions about
    which drum machine has the best midi implimentation, etc...
    
    ron
    
637.15Huh?STAR::MALIKKarl MalikThu Jan 15 1987 18:1820
    
    	I would have to agree.  This is the Computer MUSIC file.  A
    discussion of music produced with the aid of computers would seem
    to be very much appropriate.  Although it is strangely rare in
    this conference.
    
    	Oh gee, I've forgotten the name of the person who started this
    note.  Sorry.  Well, whoever you are, could you slow down to 70
    so we could figure out what the heck you are talking about?
    
    	What I am familiar with (Stockhausen, Xenakis, Cage) does not
    always seem to connect with what I am unfamiliar with (ASHRA, etc.).
    How much of the information & terms come from you, and how much
    from other sources?
    
    	I think we could have a nice discussion if you would clue some
    of us in.
    
    							- KM_one
    
637.16Sorry, I meant:MDR01::RUBENFri Jan 16 1987 09:54106
637.18I cant follow it...GNERIC::ROSSdont shoot the MKS20 player!Fri Jan 16 1987 12:255
    
    What *are* you trying to tell us, Tom?
    
    rjr
    
637.19I can't follow it either...MDR01::RUBENFri Jan 16 1987 13:1823
637.20send SPR to NOTES supportGNERIC::ROSSdont shoot the MKS20 player!Fri Jan 16 1987 16:4015
    
    Now I get it. Strange, I took what you said just as you
    had to explain it a few notes later, (didnt get the reference
    to TOM either.)
    
    There *is* this obscure bug in NOTES and MAIL that occasionally
    clobbers your messages by removing all nuance, tone of voice,
    and other cues necessary for reconstructing the emPHAsis (my
    own EMphasis) of the note. Thus the interpretation can occasionally
    get meffed up.
    
    I'm sure we'll all be glad when they find it.
    
    ron
        
637.21I agreeNEDVAX::MCKENDRYWally 'Bow-Tie' NerdpackFri Jan 16 1987 20:015
     This, now this, is a decent note about computer music. 600+
    notes and finally something relevant. I don't understand a word
    of it, but that's my problem. Keep it here.
    
    -John