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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2852
Total number of notes:33157

512.0. "BETA Hi-Fi Mastering" by CANYON::MOELLER (thick as a brick) Fri Sep 19 1986 17:36

I just rec'd my copy of Electronic Musician. (10/86). There's an article 
on stereo mastering using Beta HIFI in the Home studio. 

You all certainly are hip to the advantages of VCR's in general
for low bux hiquality audio. There is a picture in there depicting
the general track layout of BETA :

---------------------------------  conventional audio track
/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /
 / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /   video trax (w/ stereo hifi audio)
/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / 
---------------------------------  conventional audio track

In the text, it states that: "the helical-scan rotating heads used for
video can also record the BHF audio signal on tape.... with an effective
tape speed of 270 i.p.s. [!!!]... the audio input feeds the conventional 
audio and BHF heads SIMULTANEOUSLY (my emphasis)... However, on some 
machines you can THEN (later??) record a different signal
onto the conventional audio tracks...you can stripe SMPTE...you wind
up with a high quality stereo master with a SMPTE sync track..."

Well. My question is this: If one were limited on tape channels and
was compelled to do the stereo dump/intermix rag, could one create a 
THREE-CHANNEL intermix, fully intending to xfer it back to multitrack, 
normal BETA stereo on the music, while carrying along, with no temporal 
displacement, the FSK (or whatever format) SYNC track?

           +------------------------+
           |     multitrack deck    |
           +-^--^--^--^--^--^--^--^-+
..FSK sync...:  :  :  :  :  :  :  :
:               :  :  :  :  :  :  :  line level audio
v               v  v  v  v  v  v  v
:          +------------------------+
:          |   multichan mixer      |
: ....left.< stereo                 |
: : .right.< outputs                |
: : :      |                        |
: : :      +------------------------+
: : :
: : : ---------------------------------  conventional audio track (unused)
: : :> / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / 
: :   / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /    video trax w/ stereo hifi audio
: :..> / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / 
:....>---------------------------------  FSK audio track

       SIMULTANEOUSLY ???    
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512.1Don't think so...PIXEL::COHENRichard CohenFri Sep 19 1986 19:5010
    Karl,
    
    I have a VHS HiFi Deck, but I believe that you cannot SIMULTANEOUSLY
    record three different signals on any of the HiFi Video Decks.  What
    the article is probably suggesting is a later dub onto the LoFi
    channels. I must confess that although I subscribe to Electronic Musician,
    I haven't read the article yet. 
    
    	- Rick
    
512.2Ask me, I've got one.COROT::CERTOFri Sep 19 1986 20:3223
    
    Karl,
    
    I have a Sony SLHF-900 super beta hi-fi deck.  I bought it with
    similar thoughts in mind.  I also intended to get a unit
    to master digitally, until I found out that digital edits aren't
    possible.
    
    Yes you can record on three independant tracks at one time (on this
    deck).  Or you can dub the linear or hi-fi track in separately.
    
    Monitoring may be a problem, as you can listen to hi-fi, the linear,
    or both, via the stereo output jacks, but not separate them.
    I believe that it would be a minor task to tap the monitor select
    switch and thus separate them on output, though. 
    
    The beta hi-fi sound quality on this model is superior to the
    hi-fi on other decks (my opinion).  Some have modulation noise.
    
    And note the hi-fi tracks are frequency modulated versus straight 
    conventional recording.
        
    Fredric