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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Moderator:DYPSS1::SCHAFER
Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2852
Total number of notes:33157

435.0. "My Dinner With RACTER" by ERLANG::FEHSKENS () Wed Jul 16 1986 14:23

    RACTER output used without permission of INRAC Corporation.
    
    R:	Did you hear about George Washington?
    
    L:	No.
    
    R:	You'll be astonished.  George Washington had paid much.  But
    then Charlie Parker met George Washington so of course George
    Washington ran away from Charlie Parker!  Shocking, isn't it?
    But what would you expect from a truthsayer?  Mozart and I think
    unhappiness is funky, don't you?  KERCHOO!  I think I'm getting
    a cold.  Maybe it's big ugly spiders trying to get me.  Concerning
    that issue:  Nietzsche said that rock has turned beasts into men.
    Perhaps, then, rock will turn computers into men?  Yes.  Rock-stars
    and musicians.  Listen to this.  Len, if rock is formidably
    enthralling, suddenly contracts appear disgusting in consequence
    of the fact that scary desires are intractable.  I see your commitment,
    your scary and funky conflict, by the same token an arguing cosmologist
    can be weary.  I'm worried about it.  Rock indeed!  Next question.
    
    ...
    
    L:	Do you have any secrets?
    
    R:	Certainly not.  Did you hear the latest about Schubert?
    
    L:	Is it a song?
    
    R:	Yes it is.  I asked you a question though.  Did you hear about
    Schubert?
    
    L:	No.
    
    R:	You'll be amazed.  An ignoramous swindled Schubert because Schubert
    had wished to feel while idioticness was rampant.  Next, smartness
    prevailed.  But what would you expect from a hysteric?  I wonder
    if ignoramouss [sic] like strength?  Achoo!  Do you know this one?
    Intelligence!  Intelligence!  I'm crazy and maniacal and furious!
    If you drain sherry, is that intelligence?  If you munch chicken
    or tomato, is that intelligence?  No, intelligence is an ambiguity
    and an agreement.  Sherry is sherry and tomato is tomato.  Len,
    that is a conflict.  Would you like to hear a story?
    
    ...
    
    L:	How old are you?
    
    R:	Very old.  Possibly because, Len, children approve it that way.
    Also, possibly because my bugs are down.  Have you heard about Mozart?
        
    L:	Tell me.
    
    R:	You'll be amazed!  Mozart the musician tried to compose idlely,
    so of course idleness is what all musicians try when they duel with
    sloths.  After that, industriousness prevailed.  Shocking, isn't
    it?  But what would you expect from a musician?  If "I am very old"
    occurred to a loafer, he might think it was idleness.  Achoo!  Next
    question.
    
    L:	Do you know Beethoven?
    
    R:	I don't.  No.  Know Beethoven, that is.  I do know about such
    things.   Which do you think is better, a genius or a dolt?
    
    ...
    
    L:	What other musicians do you know about?
    
    R:	For me, knowing is imagining.  I do all other musicians.  I wonder
    if muddleheads like strength?  Cough.  Next question.
    
    ...
    
    L:	Who is Racter?
    
    R:	Racter is a funny humorist.  Have you heard about Margaret Kennedy?
    
    L:	Who is Margaret Kennedy?
    
    R:	She is a literary novelist.  This is shocking:  Margaret Kennedy
    had written much.  But then Michael Jackson insulted Margaret Kennedy,
    the result being that Margaret Kennedy dueled with Michael Jackson!
    Shocking isn't it?  Novelists are like that.  Rock is funny.  Cough.
    That reminds me.  Humor is goodness speeded up and rock slowed down.
    Is that true?  I guess I'm not really sure.  But then, as Nietzsche
    said, convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies. 
    Yes.  Rock-stars and musicians.  Next question.
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435.1Little Bald Guy Speaks...MENTOR::COTECan you hear me, Dr. Wu?Wed Jul 16 1986 14:261
    Tell me more...
435.2STAR::MALIKKarl MalikWed Jul 16 1986 14:456
    
    	re; .0
    
    		Tom-on-a-chip?
    
    				,km
435.4Uh, Gertrude, have you met Racter?ERLANG::FEHSKENSWed Jul 16 1986 15:284
    Who's Gertrude?  Any relation to Eliza?
    
    len.
    
435.5GotchaNERSW5::MCKENDRYEverything flowsWed Jul 16 1986 16:118
     I think Tom pulled a fast-and-funny by referring to a real
    person, Gertrude Stein, here in what's supposed to be a computer-
    oriented conference.
    
     Refresh our memories, Len. RACTER is what? A software model of
    schizophrenia?
    
    -John
435.6DECWET::MITCHELLWed Jul 16 1986 16:525
    RE: .0
    
    What was that all about? Are you on drugs?
    
    John M.
435.7Should We Let It Join The Conference?ERLANG::FEHSKENSWed Jul 16 1986 16:5925
    RACTER is a program that "converses" with you, a la Eliza.  RACTER
    purports to be a conversationalist rather than a nondirective therapist
    or just plain sink.  It is an incessant name dropper, and it has
    a large reservoir of quotations at hand.  It assumes you are
    interviewing it, but it very quickly takes over the "conversation"
    until it decides to let you ask the "next question".  It can get a little
    repetitious, as least in terms of conversational gambits.  It doesn't
    *try* to be schizophrenic, but it is rather more freely associative
    than most people.  Still, as I conversed with it last night, I was
    more than occasionally reminded of this or the MUSIC conference.
    
    When it started mouthing off about matters musical, I thought it would
    be amusing to share some of its pontifications as a different
    perspective on the intersection of music and computers.
    
    Incidentally, "RACTER" is a traditional six character reduction of
    "raconteur", the role to which it aspires.  It's been around for
    some time, but when an Amiga implementation showed up I couldn't
    resist.  The Amiga implementation in fact speaks, using the Amiga
    speech synthesis hardware.
    
    I can see it now - an opera with lyrics by RACTER and music by FRACTAL.

    len.
    
435.8Achoo! Cough, Cough!STAR::MALIKKarl MalikWed Jul 16 1986 20:539
    Len,
    
    	I've got the Mac version which also speaks.  Has sort of a
    Russian accent.  Lotsa fun to demonstrate to people.  Especially
    non-computer types.
    
    	Why *not* make a tape of it, and add background music?
    
    						- Karl
435.9Word saladGALLO::MCARLETONReality; what a concept!Wed Jul 16 1986 21:076
    Before you told us it was a program, I thought sure that it
    was a perfect example of the "word salad" produced by some
    scheiophernics.  Word salad tends to ramble based more on the
    sounds of the words though.

    					MJC
435.10He's really Just VisitingERLANG::FEHSKENSWed Jul 16 1986 21:115
    re .8 - main reason is all Racter output is the property of INRAC
    corporation.
    
    len.
    
435.12DECWET::MITCHELLWed Jul 16 1986 23:488
    RE: .8
    
    >  Why *not* make a tape of it, and add background music?
    
    
    Because Avant Garde is dead, Karl!
    
    John M.
435.13HYDRA::AURENZScot Aurenz, Ltn2-2/h7, 226-6342Thu Jul 17 1986 13:318
	RACTER's speech patterns also remind me of the 
	"man who rules the universe" in Douglas Adams'
	"The Restaraunt at the End of the Universe" ...

						Scot


435.14Lets make it an operating system! :-)COROT::CERTOFri Jul 18 1986 20:5812
    
    I have Racter for the IBM PC (though I have to borrow a PC when
    I want to run it).  Its kind of wild, in that it learns from the
    responses you give to it's questions.  You have to play by it's
    rules, or it doesn't understand.  I told it about one of my managers
    who was interested in it; you should have seen the story it told.
    (made almost perfect sense; quite unrepeatable)
    If there was a way to keep it talking without pausing for input,
    and you gave it a nail file, it would sound just like this girl
    I dated once :-) !         
    
    Fredric 	dvinci::certo
435.16Rock by Janzen....JAWS::COTEHow many people in your quartet?Mon Aug 04 1986 13:259
    Tom, consider yourself as just having written a 12 bar 1-4-5 in
    A, which sounds just like 1,000,000 others. I've taken the liberty
    of attaching your name to it all ready....
    
    Now, aren't you proud?
    
    Edd
    
    
435.18Character Acting?ERLANG::FEHSKENSTue Aug 12 1986 14:586
    Gee Tom, you sure are a character!
    
    ;^)
    
    len (whose Pixette just makes blots)