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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:Thu Feb 20 1986
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54.0. "Low-end multi-trackers" by GIBSON::DICKENS () Wed Jan 23 1985 02:33

Does anyone have any information (product review, horror stories, etc.)
on the very low end of the current multi-track recorder scene ?
By this I mean things like the Fostex X15, the Yamaha 4-track and
any comparable products.

Although the're out of my price range for the time being, information
on the more expensive 4-tracks and the cheapest 8-tracks would be 
welcome.  Thanks in advance.
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54.1BAILEY::JWALTONWed Jan 23 1985 22:2227
	I've heard today that the Fostex X15 has some tape
	handling problems, I'll be sure to check this out
	in more detail. I'm in the market for a multitrack 
	machine myself, I don't want to make a mistake with
	which one I get, so I'm always changing my mind about
	what I would like to get.
	What make the most sense is that, unfortunatly, a 
	low end machine is going to have inferior tape handling
	compared to the big boys. So what makes senseis to
	shell out the money on your first machine, IF it
	is something your going to keep and make serious
	use of. More than likely.......

	(O.K. folks you CAN quote me on this)

	......the market will start turning towards Digital
	data storage on a multitrack, there is a few models
	out there like two track digitals on video casette,
	and a DBX-digital interface for the above. But it
	should come on pretty strong soon. Well if they 
	don't do it soon, I'll make my own. END-QUOTE

	I'mm checking out the Fostex machines this week.
	I'll post what I find.


	John
54.2GLORY::LAUTFri Jan 25 1985 19:3529
	Depending upon what you are looking for, there are a variety of 
good machines available on the marketplace.  The four-track porta-studio 
machines are pretty much the same, except for the peripheral sections 
(such as built-in mixers).  The Yamaha and Tascam units are among the 
best.  As regards the eight-track marketplace, there are three levels 
you can look at.  The first is the Fostex A8-type (what they call the 
"personal multi-track").  This is a machine which is your "bare-bones" 
deck.  And I mean, bare-bones.  For example, they only have four record 
modules, which means you double up to record either tracks 1-4 or 5-8, 
not both.  This at first may not seem like a big deal.  But, when you 
want to start ping-ponging, you may run into logistics problems.

	The next level up is the Tascam family.  They make three 
different models (30-, 40-, and 50-series).  The 30 series is an 
improved version of the tascam 80-8.  It still retains the 80-8's price 
of $2,795.00.  For heavy-duty stuff, you have to 50-series.  This was 
designed (in the words of one Tascam factory rep.) to run "24 hours 
per day, 7 days a week, forever".  I have heard enough good things about 
the 58 and 52 that I would be willing to spend the $5,800 for the 
eight-track.

	Finally, you hit the professional level.  At this point, the 
standard eight-track is made by Otari, and will cost around $10,000 for 
starts.  Also, at this point, price is no object.  If you wanted a 
really good 24-track studio, you would be looking at the Otari 24-track 
with an Audio Design T-50 50-channel mixing deck.  You would also be 
looking at around $100,000.00 (including very few accesories).  Sigh...

54.3BARNUM::JWALTONMon Jan 28 1985 12:3219
	The tascam 234 is a good deal you can pick it up 
	for approx. $750, Lasalle's in water town had 
	a package deal (as of sat.) for approx. $1200
	you get the 234 and a tascam 4chan mixer that
	is comparable to the 234.

	The fostex A-8 is what the prvious note said,
	selling for $1995 list, or $1640. They also 
	make an A-8LR that has 8 input channels, this
	lists for $2500. Both have Dolby C the 234 has
	dbx. I've used the older model A-8 without
	noise reduction, it was a bit noisy, but the sound
	quality was good (for the price). The mixer for
	the A-8 is the fostex 350, I'm told.

	Oh yes the 234 is cassette, the A-8's are reel-to-reel
	7inch, 15ips.234 3 3/4ips.

	John
54.4BARNUM::JWALTONMon Jan 28 1985 13:067
	A friend of mine has the Fostex X15, you wouldn't
	want it unless you were only wanting to hear how
	your four tracks would sound 'like'. I say 'like'
	because the sound is poor. There isn't another
	word for it.

	John