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Conference kaosws::canada

Title:True North Strong & Free
Notice:Introduction in Note 535, For Sale/Wanted in 524
Moderator:POLAR::RICHARDSON
Created:Fri Jun 19 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1040
Total number of notes:13668

947.0. "COPS: Are they above the law ?" by KAOFS::D_STREET () Fri Jul 14 1995 14:34

    What the heck is going on in this country ? The last two days have had
    some really BAD charges against police officers treated in a way that
    screams "preferential tratment". In Ottawa, a cop who killed a kid on a
    bike, and left the scene of the accident, has had the drunk driving
    causing death charge dropped, and is only charged with leaving the
    scene of an accident. He (imo) was stinking drunk when he hit the kid,
    and left because he knew it. Apparently there were "problems" with the
    blood samples taken (by his buddy no doubt) and without them, tehre is
    no case. I ask you, if you killed someone, and left the scene, what
    chance do you think you would have had ?
    
     In Montreal, the cops who beat the cabbie into a coma, got week-ends.
    Again, I ask you, if you beat someone into a coma what kind of
    punishment do you think you would get ? Week-ends ? I think not.
    
     
    Sadly it appears that teh police/judges feel there is a seperate
    justice system for the police themselves.
    
    
    							Derek.
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947.1cops are idiots tooPOLAR::WILSONCCars = DeathSun Jul 16 1995 07:3227
    I think we are all guilty of protecting those with whom we share
    interests. It just seems worse when cops stick up for one another. I
    personally think cops are pretty useless for protecting the common man
    (business on the other hand get their money's worth out of them) so I
    wouldn't waste your energy getting steamed. 
    
    Why do I think cops are useless? Well, one night about 8 years ago I
    was walking down the street with my friend when all of a sudden I felt
    a sharp pain on my right butt cheek. Not knowing what happened my
    friend and I carried on walking, I assumed a big wasp or something
    stung me. After a few minutes I realized that I heard a sound a
    fraction of asecond after the pain in my butt began. I hypothesized
    that I had been shot by a pellet of some kind. Well to make a long
    story short I had been shot so I called the cops. At the station I had
    to pull down my pants in order for the cops to view the evidence. Do
    you think they were compassionate? I had quite the welt on my butt and
    some bleeding and couldn't sit right for three days. All the cops did
    was make smart-ass remarks about the gay guy that would like to see my
    injury that he would like to lick it. They called in the female
    dispatcher to take a look etc. After about 20 minutes of this
    humiliation I told them to f-off. My friend and I went back to the
    scene of the shooting and investigated and found three young teens with
    a pellet rifle with a scope. We beat the snot out of them and someone
    called the cops on us (same cops) nothing happened of course except
    that the seargent was there and when I told him how this could have
    been avoioded had only his goons had taken me seriously he shook his
    finger at his men and said bad boys that was it. end of story.
947.2TROOA::BROOKSSun Jul 16 1995 19:4318
    ..or the story about the escaped convict (I think) in the Barrie area
    that killed two cops before driving off.  Eventually they found him.
    and the story goes that when he was taken back to Barrie to face the
    charges, he was black and blue from the boys in blue.  (heresay only,
    of course.)
    
    Yes, you protect your own.  I too believe Cops are dealt with under a
    separate branch of the law, because they are the law.  They are given
    guns, etc. so that they can protect the rest of us.  I always seem to
    notice them getting 'suspended' for some infraction that would land you
    or I in jail.  I'm sur we all agree, however, that it is a very tough
    job they have to perform (lot of stress-related problems there I'm
    sure).  But, if you don't keep your military and para-military in line,
    you end up in political situations we've seen many times before where a
    facist government/dictatorship arises that would *real* inequities
    between the commonfolk and the 'law'.
    
    D
947.3if it gets ugly, call the cops.POLAR::WILSONCCars = DeathSun Jul 16 1995 23:166
    I dont envy cops they certainly have a ugly stress filled job. The only
    time people want them is when their is trouble. Preferential treatment
    is understandable, probably unavoidable.
    
    chris
    
947.4POLAR::ROBINSONPWaiting for the SunMon Jul 17 1995 15:3610
    
    Consider, if you will, what happens to police officers in prison.
    
    I don't think I need to spell it out.
    
    Serving time on weekends makes sense to me, that's when all
    the monday to friday criminals are out on weekend passes. 8*)
    
    Lots of background moves on these cases that the general public
    will never hear.
947.5breaks my heartTROOA::MSCHNEIDERDigital has it NOW ... Again!Thu Jul 20 1995 02:403
    Gee whiz .... get treated badly do they in prison?  Well seems like a
    particularly good reason why they should be extra careful in obeying
    the laws that apply to all citizens.
947.6KAFS31::LACAILLEHalf-filled bottles of inspirationThu Jul 20 1995 12:273
	Maybe they should have a prison for just the cops, sounds
	like they could certainly make good use of it.
947.7RE.3 COP LOVER OR STOOL PIGEON ?POLAR::LALUMIEREWed Jul 26 1995 01:3120
947.8TROOA::COLLINSCareful! That sponge has corners!Wed Jul 26 1995 11:5910
947.9Nice GuyTROOA::MCRAMMarshall Cram DTN 631-7162Wed Jul 26 1995 12:4011
947.10observation is not advocacyR2ME2::DEVRIESAll simple things were done by 1950!Wed Jul 26 1995 13:2513
947.11TROOA::COLLINSCareful! That sponge has corners!Wed Jul 26 1995 15:3345
947.12POLAR::RICHARDSONPainful But YummyWed Jul 26 1995 16:101
947.13TROOA::COLLINSCareful! That sponge has corners!Wed Jul 26 1995 16:335
947.14Out come the jackbootsTROOA::SOLEYFall down, go boomWed Jul 26 1995 18:1612
    OK Kids, I don't have the time for this. 
    
    I've received complaints about .7 and given that at least one of the
    replies contains an unnecessary expletive and another violates
    copyrights I've no choice but to wade in. You all know that I've
    avoided censorship here and by in large we've kept things
    without the bounds of what's approriate for the workplace, it's pushed
    the envelope a little but nothing that makes me worry about my or
    anyone elses career. This one's different. So here's the deal. This note is 
    write locked, .7 and the followups are set hidden. Topic closed end of
    discussion.