Conference kaosws::canada

    Was at Gross Mourn (sp?) National Park about 6 years ago. FANTASTIC.
    I will be going again this summer. Still haven't got the guts to try
    Cod Tongues (or cheeks) yet.
    
    
    							Derek.

    My wife and I frequent Quebec City. We are getting quite used to it.
    We have been thinking of venturing northeast from Maine to Nova Scotia 
    and Newfoundland. 
    
    I know absolutely nothing about Newfoundland.  This will be an interesting 
    topic to read.  
    
    Do they really wear plaid raincoats and smoke their pipes upside down? 
    
    -Steve
    

    It's about time for an entry in the Canada conference about
    Newfoundland. I am from Spaniard's Bay .. just between Harbour Grace
    and Bay Roberts.
    
    What I miss ?? Caplin !!! Lightly smoked. As a boy, I used to enjoy
    catching them as they rolled in on the ocean.
    
    I haven't been back in almost 8 years, but still have a lot of family
    there, and I still receive a box of lemon cream biscuits every year for
    Christmas from them.
    
    "Like ya would"
    Brian

    Do you miss listening to "hOZ" FM?

    
    
      RE: .3
    
           Brian,
    I love caplin too!  I used to catch them as a boy on a rod as they
    rolled in and sometimes would see the old fishermen use the Cast Nets
    to bring in numerous amounts.  The last time my parents came up here
    (they live in Sackville, N.S. now) they brought me up some squid.
    Have you ever tried baked squid?  I remember jigging them and getting
    hit in the eye with the squid ink when we'd pull them over the side
    of the boat.  We used to come home after a day of squid jiggin' and
    be black from head to toe.  
    
        My girlfriend is from Grand Bank.  We are both hoping to get down 
    for a couple of weeks this summer and tour the Island.  From Port aux
    Basques to St. John's.  Her father used to live on an island in 
    Fortune bay called Brunnet Island and they're having a Come Home Year
    this summer.  So that should be a blast.
    
       Have you ever been to St.Pierre/Miquelon?  We hope to get over there
    as well during our trip.  But I just have to see Gros Morne National
    Park.  We plan to spend a few days hiking up there.
    
       Anyway, I'm rambling on like a homesick Newfie.
    
    Blair

    Re: .2
    
         Steve,
    I all my time spent living in Newfoundland I've never seen a plaid 
    raincoat or someone smoking an upside down pipe, unless you're in 
    the local pub around closing time. 8*)
    
        The best word I can think of to describe Newfoundland is:
                         
                         Hospitality!
    
    I don't think you will find any corner of the world in which you will
    find friendlier people who just want to have a good time.
    For example I was driving through Nfld. one year, I can't remember
    exactly where, but I had problems with my car.  I stopped at a nearby
    house, knocked on the door and asked the lady if I could use her phone.
    
          She not only invited me in, she asked me if I would like a cup 
    of tea and some of her home made bread.
          It's little things like that which make Newfoundland extra 
    special to me.
    
          I would recomend a visit.  However, go in the summer! 8*)
    
    
    Blair

    Can't argue with the fact that Newfoundlanders are some of the
    friendliest people on earth.
    
    Re: -.2
    
    Jigging ?? Sigh !! Nope, can't say I have been jigging for 9 years. And
    I can't remember ever having baked squid. Mostly, I remember a lot of
    Cod, Caplin, and Lobster !! Nothing in the world like an East-coast
    Lobster. Now I live in Alberta, and sure we have great steak, but my
    mouth still waters for a nice Newfie Lobster.
    
    I never did make it down to the south part of Newfoundland. I have
    heard a lot of nice things about St. Pierre/Miquelon though and would
    like to visit there some time.
    
    Have you ever heard of the comedy group that travels around Canada
    called "Buddy, Whatshisname, and the other Feller" ?? Three Newfies who
    have made it fairly big touring Canada, brings smiles to Newfies
    everywhere.
    
    Another thing I miss ... Ice-fishing with my Dad and having a Bottle of
    moose warmed up over an open fire in a black-ass frying pan. Mmmmmmm !!
    
    Oh well, back to reality .... 
    
    Brian

    re: .6
    
    Blair,
    
    	The way you have described Newfoundland reminds me very much of 
    Ireland.  My wife and I honeymooned there.  The countryside was 
    beautiful and the people were as friently as can be.  Everyone seems
    to trust everyone else everyone knows their neighbors. 
    
    	It sounds like Newfoundland is another place on earth that is bliss.
    I look forward to visiting someday.
    
    Steve
    

    Don't forget one of the very best dark rums: SCREECH!
    
    Jean
    

Buddy, Whatshisname, and the other Fellas are hilarious as well as being
an excellent musical act.

Ben

    
    
        Anybody remember a Newfoundland-based CBC show called 
    "The Wonderful Grand Band"?  Most of the actors and actresses 
    went to a popular spinoff show called "CODCO".  
        A little further back....Mary Walsh who was one of the women
    of Codco, previously starred in a show called "Up at Ours".
    If I'm not mistaken Ray Guy also starred in this with frequent 
    guest appearences by John White.
        What did ever happen to Codco anyway???
    
    
        I have one word which will make you homesick Newfies a little
     more homesick:
    
                          BAKEAPPLE JAM!!!
    
    P.S: sorry I just had to!
    
    Blair

    I've never been to the rock myself but I highly recommend the book "The
    Danger Tree" by David MacFarlane (or something close to that). The authour
    was born in the same hospital I was in Hamilton and the book is largely
    about him re-discovering his newf heritage.

    Been to the Rock many times when I worked out of the Halifax office.
    
    St.John's has got to have the most bars per capita than any place in
    Canada. Great city to visit. Not many ugly women either.
    
    Ches' fish & chips are a classic. Don't know what they'll do without
    cod. 
    
    Getting "Screeched In" is a must for any mainlander - you haven't lived
    till you've drank gallons of screech and kissed a cod.
    
    Hard to find a newfie beer I haven't liked other than Pony Pi$$ - I
    think it's real name is Jockey Club ?
    
    How many holiday's do they get on the Rock anyway ?  St.Paddy's Day,
    Discovery Day, Sunny Monday, $1.44 day......
    
    You can't beat the way of life on the rock.....by the way, how come
    everybody names their kids  Buddy on the rock ?????
    
    Speaking of rock, have you ever flown over Nfld. - trees, ponds, rock.
    
    Terry

    Saw a CBC documentry on the death of the fishery, and the outport way
    of life last night. It boils down to Brian Mulroney was forcing
    Canadians to stop fishing, while Euorpean countries (Spain and Portugal
    I think) vacumed the remaining fish from the sea. It appears he was
    more interested in being treated like a big man while in Europe than
    defending a 400 year old way of life for Canadians. Why am  I not
    surprised ? Can there be any doubt that he was the worst PM we ever had ?
    Cand we sue for damages ?
    
    
    					               Derek.

    The cod have also moved away and primarily live in international
    waters. Certain currents have apparently shifted causing the cod to
    hang out in harms way. So, Brian obviously has more influence than
    anyone thought. He had the power to affect ocean currents. It's too bad
    for him that he couldn't stem the tide of discontent in this country.

    Glenn

    POLAR::RICHARDSON
    
     The show said nothing about shifting currents. The Gulf Sream was
    always there, but the masses of fish prevented every remaining one from
    being there. The "nose and tail" amount to 5% of the Grand Banks, and BM did
    nothing to protect them. As he saw fit to ruin the livelyhood of
    Newfoundlanders, I figure he should at least have taken the moves that
    would have allowed the stock to recover. Instead he screwed the
    Newfies, and left the remaining fish to be scooped up by the Europeans.
    Who by the way made it a condition that Spanish and Pourtagise (SP)
    ships NOT fish in other EC countries waters for entry into the EC.
    Basically admitting the overfishing, and dumping the problem on a
    Canadian resource.
    
    
    BM had the power to protect the fish stock, and didn't, maybe that
    explains in part why he "couldn't stem the tide of discontent in this
    country."
    
    							Derek.

    
    KAOFS::D_STREET
    
    The show said nothing about shifting currents? Well, then they
    overlooked a very key point to help explain why there are almost no cod
    left off the coast of Newfoundland. Of course CBC wouldn't bother
    mentioning it, seeing as they hate the Tories for all the cutbacks. If
    the cod decide to come back in the next 4 years, Jean Chretien will take 
    credit for it and the CBC will look for some other story and put a
    completely depressing slant on it as usual.

    Glenn

    They did mention the attraction to the Gulf Stream by the fish. Which
    explained why the paltry number of remaining fish don't reach to the
    shores of the Rock anymore. I assure you if the Gulf Stream shifted, it
    would make more news than an obituary for a lifestyle killed by a
    spineless international gadfly.
    
    							Derek.

    Yes, it is a shift in the Gulf Stream, away from the grand banks which
    has caused the cod to move off into international waters. It made the
    news but obviously wasn't compelling enough for CBC to mention at
    length. There has been a recent agreement by the countries who fish for cod 
    to impose a moratorium. Haven't heard if/when this will take effect.
    
    Glenn

    Could you elaborate on the Gulf Stream shift ? Not really related to
    the subject, but the GS has a big effect on European weather, and I
    wonder what the change has done over there.
    
    
     Good news about the moritorium, if and when they do it.
    
    
    						Derek.

    Apparently, eddy currents from the GS which used to be present in the
    grand banks have moved east. It wasn't mentioned if this was due to a
    major shift in the GS, but from what I understand, shifts in ocean
    currents are not that uncommon.

    Glenn

	Engineers at the time warned of a shifting of the GS after
	the constructuion of the GC.

	CL

    I knew an eddy shore once...

    son of a beach!
    
    did he have wavey hair?

    Re -.1  That's more like you Glenn, I was getting confused with all
    this technical serious stuff about the grand banks and BM.
    
    Jean
    

    I can see that this current sea change from the original note is
    sinking into the abyss.  Not one to use salty language, but me thinks
    you should belay this Sargasso muddle and shove off!
    
    Hydrofoiled,
    
    ... and I've haddock.

    Oh Pat, don't be so crabby! And don't go overboard on the puns like
    that, some people will think that you're just trying to rock the boat.
    Yours would have high marks on my scale though.


    Floundering,

    Glenn

    Never been to Newfoundland.  My father has been there 2 or 3 times
    and he insists that you will find the friendliest and most hospitable
    people in all of Canada at this locale.  I will have to check
    this out for myself and see if I can lend this observation any
    creedence.
    

    
    Reading these entries about 'the rock' is making me homesick, so I thought
    I'd check to see if there are any other Newfies at DEC living in the SF
    Bay area, who might be interested in getting together for a beer. 
    
    Not a lot of 'Black Horse' or 'Dominion' out this way, but the beer here 
    is certainly cheap compared to Canada, and some of the micro-brewery 
    products are really decent.
    
    Just moved to the Bay area after spending eight years in Vancouver so
    my research here is just beginning...
    
    Rob Moore,  
    MUN Class of '83  

    Black Horse, now there's a beer. Looking forward to quaffing a few
    this summer.
    
    							Derek

    re:.29
    
        Welcome aboard, Rob!  Are ya a baywop or a townie??
    Don't matter anyway, bye.  Yer still a Newf.  
    I remember Black Horse and Dominion Ale.  I also remember seeing
    commercials on T.V. for B.H. in which the jingle went something like...
    "The Black Horse Runs by here!"
    
         As teenagers we changed the lyrics to..."The Black Horse gives 
    you the Runs!"
    
         Do you miss any of the "Purity" products from Newfoundland
    or do you have a store down there in which you can obtain the precious
    Purity "Jam-Jams" and other items like Bakeapple Jam?  Probably worth
    its weight in gold down there!
    
         Plan on goin' to the Rock this summer!  Got a buddy over there
    who has a freezer full of moose meat and wants me to take back as much
    as I can carry.
         
        I can almost smell it on the barbecue!
    
    
        Blair.

My wife and I are planning our annual autumn Canada vacation.  We normally go
to Quebec (because of it's proximity to us) but we decided last year that 4 
times in a row to Quebec was enough already!  We were going to try Sarnia but
Glenn told me that it was very close to Detroit. Then along came note 800,
the "newfie" note.

We decided (from what I read in this topic) that Newfoundland would be the place
this year. 

We live in New Hampshire.  From our house, it's about 3 hours to Sherbrooke,Que
and also 3 hours to Bar Harbor Maine.  We'll have our 5-month-old with us and we
don't want to fly (our autumn trip is a driving one anyway).

The big question is; would we be biting off a little too much by attempting to
get to Newfoundland via the Maritime's (and sight-seeing in the maritimes along 
the way), utilizing automobile and ferry as modes of transportation?

Possible travel Routes;

-Drive thorugh Maine, through New Brunswick, then ferry up the gulf to the Rock;
 .is there such a ferry and is this too great a distance?  
 .Would it be a bad idea to miss Prince Edward Island?
 .is Madawaska,Maine/Edmundston,NB area worth seeing?  It's kinda out of the way
  but I remember reading about it in National Geographic about 10 years ago and
  was impressed by what I read (although I don't remember anything about it).

-OR, Drive to Bar Harbor Maine and Ferry over to Nova Scotia, Drive through NS
 then ferry from Cape Breton up to the Rock (appears to have much less ferry 
 time, but would it be a bad idea to miss NB and PEI?)

I've been pondering these approaches and am soliciting opinions.  I've been 
reading this notesfile for a while now and I *know* you folks have a lot of 
opinions :-)

Questions I am asking myself about this trip;
-Would the trip be too fast and would we miss too much?  
-are we crazy to be thinking of taking a trip like this with a 5 month old?
-Is Newfoundland just too damn far for us to even THINK about driving to and we
should just stick to the maritimes and take a trip to the Rock someday in the 
future when we can take a plane?

Thanks,
Steve

    

    Sarnia.....Vacation ?????
    
    What's wrong ..were you raised in Love Cannal and feeling homesick ???
    
    
    Brian V
    

    
    The Sarnia part was meant to be a joke (for Glenn - who "weeps" for
    it).  The rest of the note is a full blown inquiry ~
    
    Steve
    

    For some reason I feel like I should suggest a course of action apart
    from blowing in my hanky.... Why is that?


    Well, I would go the N.S. route then to the Rock. The Rock is a big
    place though, how much time do you have?

    Glenn

I agree with Glen, take the fairy form Maine to N.S. and then head north to
the rock. Seems like the quickest route if you don't have much time.

Ben

    we usually take a week or less but we're going to try to stretch this
    one to 10 days.  Through NS to the rock seems most viable. Do you know
    how long the ferry ride from the north point of Cape Breton Island
    to the south point of the Rock is?  Any must-see's in NS and the Rock?
    
    moucho-tanks
    Steve

	Myself, I would take the ferry from Maine to N.S., but I
	guess Ben prefers the fairy...

	TEHO

	The Sauras

    I think I'm going to cry now, because I'm laughing so hard!
    
    8-)

Geez Ben you've come out of the closet.
BTW how fast does a fairy ride? The normal ferry service is about a day.

	Wasn't Ben the guy who got the big goose in Wawa?

	Shawn

OK, OK, one little slip and you never hear the end of it. BTW, Steve watch out
for the "High Liner" sea Captain..."Har Billy, hev ya ivver bin to sea?" :^))))

Ben

    
    
.41>>>	Wasn't Ben the guy who got the big goose in Wawa?

    No I think that was in Goose Bay.
    
    Actually - when Ben wrote "fairy" I witheld comment because I wasn't
    sure you call it that up there or not.
    
    Thanks, and I'll stay away from the Captian - I'm homophobic y'know :-)
    
    steve
    

    I took the ferry from North Sydney to Port-aux-Basques once; it took
    about nine hours.  There's another ferry, I believe, to St. John's --
    the capital, which has about half the island's population -- which
    takes a lot longer, as St. John's is at the other end of the island.  From 
    Port-aux-Basques it's a few hours' drive up the west coast to Gros Morne 
    National Park, a really lovely place to camp, hike, etc.
    
    -Stephen

RE: <<< Note 800.42 by KAOU59::ROBILLARD >>>

|OK, OK, one little slip and you never hear the end of it. BTW, Steve watch out
|
|Ben

Well, personally, if push comes to shove, I don't ever want to hear the end of 
it either.

Glenn

    .45> Well, personally, if push comes to shove, I don't ever want to hear 
    .45> the end of it either.
    
    ??huh??
    
    

You best watch out behind you then.....

    ahhhh yes... hopefully he's not a rear admiral ;-0
    
    s
    

    >  hopefully he's not a rear admiral ;-0
    
    Say what is a "rear admiral"?  Ever since Bart Simpson used the
    term a few weeks ago my kids have been driving me crazy trying
    to find out.  Our best guess is that it's a variant of "wedgie".
    
    Robin

    
    Watch out for Glenn, he ain't been the same since he was blown ashore
    with the Captain a few years ago.
    
    Pat

.49>    Say what is a "rear admiral"?  Ever since Bart Simpson...
    
    It's a position un the US NAVY.  I never knew why it was called that
    though.  I have some guesses that I hadn't better share :-)
    
    but seriously, a good friend of mine grew up on Naval Bases all around
    the world and all she could give me was "a particular level of admiral"
    "perhaps they were in charge of the back portion of the ship?" she went
    on to say - which seems totally rediculous to me - but ya never know!
    
    My best guess is that it's a way of adding layers of confusion.
    
    The dictionary has it as "a Naval Officer ranking above a Captian".
    In the Army, rank flows from Captian to Major, but in the Navy they
    stick a Rear Admiral in between 'em.  Go figure.
    
    Steve
    
    

    I hope Ben will be able to contribute to the notesfile again...
    
    It was an honest mistake.
    
    Glenn

	Glen(n)

	He was just getting over that little oopsie and now he's
	in the middle of another....but I won't get into that.

	Charli(e)

    hu(h)?

Why do my ooopsies always seem to get broadcasted to the world? Why me....why?!
:^(

Ben

    Well, perhaps it's because you remind people of a snooker player?

    No, that's not it. Snooker players aren't as good as hockey players and
    hockey players are better than curlers but not worse than dart
    players.

    Hope this helps.

    Glenn

Thank you Glenn. It has helped more than you know. I can now deal with what has
transpired knowing that I am not worse than a dart player.

Appreciatively,
Ben

    
    
        RE:.32
    
        I would take the route through New Brunswick and Nova Scotia
    to North Sydney, N.S.  There you will have a choice to take a 
    C.N. Ferry to Port aux Basques or to Argentia.
    
        The ferry ride to P.a B. will take 4 hours to complete.  The
    one to Argentia (which btw. is an American Naval Base) will take 
    18 hours.  When you arrive in Argentia, however, you will be much 
    closer to interesting places like St.John's which is approx. 1.5 - 
    2 hrs drive from there.  
    
        You should have loads of fun in St.John's and have a chance to 
    enjoy its history and culture.  There you can visit "Signal Hill"
    where Marconi made his first trans-atlantic transmission.  I also
    recommend a night visit because the view is breath-taking.
    
        At 500 years of age, St.John's boasts itself as being the 
    oldest city in North America.  You'll find all along the Avalon
    Peninsula many sites of history and quaint little places with the 
    friendliest people you've ever met.  
    
        Hope this helps,
    
        Blair.

    In .44 I said the ferry took 9 hours to get from North Sydney to
    Port-aux-Basques when I took it in 1984.  I now remember that this was
    because it hung around the harbour for awhile to give passengers a view
    of the Tall Ships, which had spent a night or 2 there on their way to
    Quebec City, as they departed.  
    
    -Stephen

    
    
    Thanks folks... these are good pointers. 
    
    Steve
    
    p.s. how far of a car ride would it be to St.John's from Port aux
    Basques (in the event that we chose the 4 hour ferry ride from North
    Sydney instead of the 18 hour one to Argentia)/
    
    

I thought St. Augustine, Florida was the oldest city in North America.

Ben

    If St Augustine is a "walled" city like Quebec City, then St Augistine
    is the oldest "walled" city in NA and Quebec is the 2nd, at least I
    think I remember a Quebec City Horse'n'Buggy driver explaining that 
    to me and my wife, although I could possibly have my head up my butt...
    
    steve

	How long would it take to get to St. Augustine by ferry?

	Mus Noe

    How long would it take to take a fairy to St. Augustine?
    
    Frothingly curious

    not long I guess...  It's kinda close to Key West :-)

    re back a few -
    
    I would avoid driving through New Brunswick. The worst roads, worst
    drivers in Canada. I drove through their last year on a trip from
    Ottawa to Halifax and swore I'd never take that route again.
    
    In the past I have taken the Bar Harbour - Yarmouth ferry. I t is quite
    enjoyable, unless you have rough seas. In order to limit my travel in
    New Brunswick, I have taken the Saint John to Digby ferry as well.
    It too is very relaxing. 
    
    The highways between New Brunswick and Nova Scotia are generally 2 lane
    (they were last summer) and clog up quite heavily with Winnebago's,
    trucks, slow pokes in the summer. This can be tough on your patience
    and on your car. My family really enjoys the ferry trips - it breaks up
    the drive.
    Their are several PC based map programs available to help you with your
    trip planning as well. These can be used to determine the most scenic
    route, quickest route, via ferry route, etc... you might want to see if
    you can get your hands on one.

    RE: .59  by CTHU26::S_BURRIDGE 
    
    >In .44 I said the ferry took 9 hours to get from North Sydney to
    >Port-aux-Basques when I took it in 1984.  I now remember that this was
    >because it hung around the harbour for awhile to give passengers a view
    >of the Tall Ships, which had spent a night or 2 there on their way to
    >Quebec City, as they departed.  
    
    Hey, Stephen, we were on that boat.  Remember how we hung around the
    starting line while the class A vessels jockeyed for the gun and then
    this enormous fog bank rolled in and swallowed up even the Russian
    ship, The Kruzenstern?
    
    For some more notes on travel to NFLD, see:
    
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             -< Introduction in Note 535, For Sale/Wanted in 524 >-
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   448  BAGELS::SCARAMUZZO   30-MAY-1991     2  Information on traveling to 
    						Newfoundland?
   467  TOPTEN::LEONARD       9-JUL-1991     3  Newfoundland adventures?
   737   TROOA::MCNEILL      26-AUG-1993     4  Newfoundland/PEI info?

    Yes, I remember the fog very well.  After that the ferry ride was a bore,
    enlivened only by performances of "Rock in the Stream", "I's the B'y",
    etc, in the lounge.  
    
    But I was very impressed by Newfoundland, a unique and interesting place.
    
    -Stephen

    I HAVE TO AGREE WITH .58 AND .66.  I HAVE DONE ALOT OF TRAVEL IN MAINE,
    NEW BRUNSWICK, N.S. AND PEI.  I WOULD TRAVEL THRU MAINE (AUGUSTA TO BAR
    HARBOR TO CALAIS) CROSS INTO N.B TO ST JOHN, TAKE THE FERRY TO DIGBY 
    N.S AND GO UP THE EAST SIDE.  LOTS TO SEE.  THE DIGBY FERRY IS A NICE
    4 HOUR ?? ( I THINK ) RIDE.  IF YOU WANT TO SEE MOUNTAINS GO EAST AND 
    TAKE FERRY FROM N.S., BUT IF YOU WANT TO SEE NICE FARMS AND FLAT DRIVES
    THE GO TO P.E.I. . IF IT WAS ME, I'D GO FOR THE MOUNTAINS.  
    
    COMING BACK I WOULD TAKE THE FARRY TO SHAIDAC N.B. AND GO SOUTH TO
    MONCTON, ( LOTS OF THINGS TO SEE IN THE AREA) THEN I WOULD GO TO
    WOODSTOCK AND CROSS OVER TO HOULTON, MAINE AND TAKE 95 BACK TO N.H..
    THE ROAD THRU N.B. ISN'T THAT BAD.  GOOD LUCK AND HAVE FUN
    
    REGARDS
    RAY GRAVELLE 

    <--- Must you yell like that?

    How about the recipe for some good old fashion screech.
    anybody got one
    

	I thought screech==rum...

    >>How about the recipe for some good old fashion screech.
    >>anybody got one
    
    Yell at the top of your lungs

    re: .71
    
         Never heard any mention of an actual recipe during the time
    I was living on the "Rock", but one thing I do remember is the 
    label on a bottle of Screech always had scribbled at the bottom...
    "Imported from Jamaica"...."bottled in St. John's, Nfld."
    
         This may strike up some controversy about screech being 
    a Newfoundland recipe.  I know many a Newf who will argue the fact 
    even though the label clearly states this.  However, their may be
    additional ingredients added at the distillery in St. John's 
    which suddenly creates a "time honoured Newfoundland tradition".
    
         Blair.

    I recall losing a battle with a bottle of screech, I don't think its
    as simple as 'screech=rum'. Screech is a LOT sweeter and has a
    'thicker' taste. Isn't Jamaica home of mollasis(sp?) and isn't that
    used in screech?(I looked in the cupboard(sp?), its MOLLASES! and it
    says from the West Indies)
     Anyway, major skull cramps in any quantity, one of those potions you
    have to develop a taste for, IMHO.
    ps - it struck me strange that for a liquor, its never served in a
     shot glass. You ask for screech and they hand you a drinking glass
     full of the stuff! I knew I was out of my league right there..
    
    Brian (major newfie fan)

    doesn't "real" Newfie Screech come in an unmarked bottle that is stashed 
    in a cupboard above the fridge. 
    
    I've tried the Screech bought at the Newfoundland Liquor Store and it
    is a good dark rum, but nothing to really brag about. Now for a great 
    dark rum, try London Dock - 150 proof, also available at the Nfld
    Liquor Store.
    
    Terry 

         You wanna try a good dark rum.......give Captain Morgan Dark 
    a try.  Also, I hear Captain Morgan spiced rum in egg nog is 
    sure winner with the family.  
    
         Blair.
    

    re: .75
    
         Brian, are you originally from Newfoundland???
    If so, you gotta spill the beans and tell the rest of us your story.
    
         
         Blair (one overworked homesick Newfie)
    

    No beans to spill Blair, I'm not from there, just took a few
    'business trips' there. Ran into the famous hospitality and didn't
    want to come back home! The rest of the story is too long but it
    was a great time, I'm taking the family there for vacation, this year
    hopefully. 
     Sorry you're overworked, no cure for that. 'Homesick', well there
     are a couple notes just put in about some different rums to try,
     that might work!
    
    ps I was born in Chapeau P.Q., its about 90 minutes west of Hull and
       you'd do well to go spend the rest of this lovely afternoon sitting
       in 'The Chapeau Hotel', cure you of all the above! (i don't know
       where I learnt to babble on like this)

         Good show, Brian!!!  The best time to head down would be 
    around mid-summer.  You might still catch a glimpse of the huge
    icebergs that drift down from Greenland each summer.  Get yourself
    out on one of those whale adventures around St. John's.....you 
    won't be disappointed!  Lots of humpbacks flying out of the water
    that time of year.  Not sure what they're eating though.  Sure as
    heck it can't be cod. 8*(
    
         Don't forget to pick yourself up a bottle of fresh air before
    leaving.
    
         Blair.

	Brian,

	Are you related to the Mayor of Kinburn? I believe his
	name is Crook. (or maybe someone simply mentioned he was
	one)

	Charlie

    Well, it's been a little quiet I here, so I thought I would ask the
    Newfoundland experts where the "hot spots" in Gander are?  Going to be
    in Gander for the upcoming weekend...
    
    Regarsds,
    
    Garry