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Conference kaosws::canada

Title:True North Strong & Free
Notice:Introduction in Note 535, For Sale/Wanted in 524
Moderator:POLAR::RICHARDSON
Created:Fri Jun 19 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1040
Total number of notes:13668

706.0. "HOCKEY: the roller derby of pro sports" by KAOFS::D_STREET (Virtue is relative) Wed May 26 1993 13:07

    After last nights display I have to say that Hockey has the WORST
    officiating in all of professional sports. What other sport would the
    announcer say, "In the first quarter/inning/etc... that would have been
    a penalty". ? Holding is holding, tripping is tripping. I am sick of
    the "ref by situation" in this sport.
    
    
    							Derek
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706.1KAOFS::M_COTEI'm a mod, not a rockerWed May 26 1993 13:274
    		
    
    		THIS NOTE HAS BEEN WRITE LOCKED BECAUSE OF A 
    		PERCEIVED STUPIDNESS ABOUT IT.
706.2more "facts" from Mr. CoteKAOFS::D_STREETVirtue is relativeWed May 26 1993 14:293
    no it hasn't
    
    	Derek.
706.3KAOFS::M_COTEI'm a mod, not a rockerWed May 26 1993 14:376
    
    
    	Oh, I guess you didn't take my word for it :^(
    
    
    		and that was more FAX from Mr. Cote
706.4POLAR::RICHARDSONSick in a balanced sort of wayWed May 26 1993 16:508
    Same thing in basketball. A ref is not as likely to call a foul in the
    last quarter of a close game.
    
    Seems to me when a ref calls every infraction, it slows the game down
    and ruins it for the fans. Would you rather have a game like game 2
    when Koharski called everything?
    
    Glenn
706.5Best cheater wins... What a sport!!!KAOFS::D_STREETVirtue is relativeWed May 26 1993 17:3634
    
    
    
    
    >>Would you rather have a game like game 2 when Koharski called everything?
    
    The "problem" with that game was that the players were not in tune to
    how that particular game was being "officiated".
    
    If every time you held another players stick and prevented his free
    movement on the ice a penalty was called, how long do you think this
    interference would continue? Consistancy is the issue. Call what you
    like, but call it the same all game, every game. If the players are too
    stupid to learn the rules, get new players.
    
     How many times have I heard about the "Refs" marble rule. "At the end of
    the game they want to have the same number of marbles (penalties) in each
    pocket (for each team)" These guys are just doing what they are told
    so don't think I am picking on the Refs.
    
    I just think that the players should decide the outcome of the game, if
    that includes hauling down a player in overtime, it should also include
    a penalty for that infraction in overtime. I don't believe that
    ignoring peanalties in overtime is letting the players decide the game.
    
    I saw one game this year where one team was "cheating" and the other
    team never caught on that the "Ref" wasn't going to call a thing. The
    team that didn't cheat, LOST. What kind of "sport" is this that rewards
    cheating ?
    
     One that has lousy officiating, thats what kind of sport it is.
    
    							Derek
    (PS. I don't watch Basketball, but if I did.....)
706.6#24 is on the wayKAOFS::J_DESROSIERSLets procrastinate....tomorrowWed May 26 1993 18:489
    The stupid thing in hockey is; there are three refeeres, only one can
    give out penalties.  A line judge can see an infraction yet it doesn't
    count if the ref didn't see it with his own eyes, this is kind of like
    WWF in nature.
    
    Jean
    
    Of course all this is poppycock unless the Canadiens are favored.
    
706.7Linesmen Call Call SOME Penalties..KAOFS::LOCKYERNO! (Tact Is For Weenies!!)Wed May 26 1993 18:555
    Actually, the linesmen can call certain penalties - Too Many Men is one
    for sure and I think they can call others where it looks like one
    player is attempting to injure another.
    
    Garry
706.8WWF is more honest about it.KAOFS::D_STREETVirtue is relativeWed May 26 1993 19:0911
    >>A line judge can see an infraction yet it doesn't
        count if the ref didn't see it with his own eyes
    
     Another stupid thing about Hockey "Refs". If I poke your eye out the
    line judge can call it, if it just ruins a scoring chance, they can't. 
    Even when the "Ref" does see it, they often do nothing about it. I was
    thinking of comparing it to the WWF, but I didn't want to insult that
    fine professional sports institution. (at least there you know it is
    supposed to be poorly officiated).
    
    							Derek
706.9SIOG::EGRIThu May 27 1993 09:298
    Can't disagree with you Derek. It seems to be the consensus among
    people in the hockey notes file that the referees just let everything
    go in overtime. A player getting a penalty in overtime definitely
    has an effect on the outcome of the game and referees should be as
    diligent in overtime as they would be in regular time. It would
    certainly mean that Ots wouldn't last as long either.
    
    Ted.
706.10How right you were....KAOFS::D_STREETVirtue is relativeFri May 28 1993 13:458
    >>referees should be as
    >>diligent in overtime as they would be in regular time. It would
    >>certainly mean that Ots wouldn't last as long either.
    
     As last nights game indicates.
    
    
    							Derek
706.11Even Don's agin me....KAOFS::D_STREETVirtue is relativeFri May 28 1993 19:295
    I am surprised no one has brought up that Don Cherry thinks the status
    quo is fine. Is he too discredited to be used as a source any more ?
    I mean it is a Hockey type of issue.
    
    							Derek