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Conference kaosws::canada

Title:True North Strong & Free
Notice:Introduction in Note 535, For Sale/Wanted in 524
Moderator:POLAR::RICHARDSON
Created:Fri Jun 19 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1040
Total number of notes:13668

691.0. "Canada Notesfile's moderator has to go!" by CTHU11::D_PAWSEY () Thu Apr 22 1993 16:13

It has come to my attention in the past couple of months that a lot of
topics which have been entered in this notesfile have been either set
hidden or have had replies disbled by the moderator.  I feel that the 
current moderator is overstepping his boundaries by forcing this type
of restraints on the readers of this particular conference.  In particular,
I have noticed that 'the moderator' is especially sensitive to any topics
pertaining to "Quebec" or "Canada" or "French-speaking" issues.  Now if a
french speaking  person enters a note concerning a french speaking issue and
this particular note is disabled or hidden, due to the audacity of this person
to not particularily agree with a Quebec Gov't. position (i.e. Language/sign
laws), ...  This is not freedom of speach  or democracy or whatever!  This
conference is for Digital internal use only and cannot be read by customers,
so why should the readers/subscribers be relegated to entering watered-down
topics, only because anything of any substance will be stamped as 'antag-
onistic' by the moderator.  

I do understand that there are certain policies and procedures that the
moderator must adhere to, however it seems that these policies are being
followed in a preferntial pattern.  

As a member of a democracy, I move to vote in a new moderator.  I would 
like to see one who is a little more open-minded towards a variety of
issues and not afraid to offend a particular group of people. I personally
don't feel that the moderator speaks for the "silent majority".  I believe
that I am a member of the silent majority and don't feel like being silent
anymore and sure don't 

Don 
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691.1Mod's should get a grip!!!KAOFS::D_STREETVirtue is relativeThu Apr 22 1993 16:186
    even a blind man can see this "moderation" is anything but moderate. I
    suggest they either quit, or leave the political axe they are grinding
    at the employee entrance.
    
    
    							Derek.
691.2POLAR::RICHARDSONSick in a balanced sort of wayThu Apr 22 1993 16:553
    I nominate Korff Barbunk!
    
    Glenn
691.3KAOU61::ROBILLARDThu Apr 22 1993 17:157
	I agree with the base note. This conference has become nothing but a 
	big joke. (LITERALLY) At this point it seems the only thing to do for 
	the moderators is to resign. No one is enjoying the conference and no
	one seems to support the moderators except the moderators.

	Ben
691.4KAOFS::J_DESROSIERSLets procrastinate....tomorrowThu Apr 22 1993 17:387
    Hey how about ME as a moderator, I would set all replies I didn't like
    hidden and probably only allow entries in french.
    
    Qu'en dites vous?
    
    Jean
    
691.5lets see some platform planks....KAOFS::D_STREETVirtue is relativeThu Apr 22 1993 17:477
    Jean,
    
    How would that make you different than the current ones ??
    
    (other than the French only part of course)
    
    							Derek
691.6If its not swearing or racial slurs...leave it alone!KAOFS::J_WEIRThu Apr 22 1993 20:1618
    I used to be a constant onlooker of this particular conference. I
    enjoyed seeing a location that was for the CANADIAN in all of us,
    French, English and yes even those from the Grand Canal. Canadians
    are typically not a very vocal group, it was nice to see a topic of
    current events which did not contain Waco Texas, George Bush or some
    Euorpean country at war.
    
    	Political topics bring the soap boxer out in all of us, there is
    always a fraction which might be offended or hurt. It is the moderators
    function to try and bring things back to order, this is typically done
    through a entry which corrects the flow of discussion, or rightfully
    demands an apologie.
    
    	When I see notes set hidden or deleted, and then 10 notes asking
    what was wrong, well! I just quit wasting my time and move on to a 
    conference which makes sense!
    
    John
691.7CSC32::S_BROOKI just passed myself going in the other direction!Thu Apr 22 1993 20:294
>           -< If its not swearing or racial slurs...leave it alone! >-
    
    Bingo ... what d'ya think got us into this mess in the first place ?
    
691.8Snowball have a way of building, if you keep rolling themKAOFS::J_WEIRThu Apr 22 1993 20:4712
    <<< Bingo ... what d'ya think got us into this mess in the first place >>>
    
    This might have been the initial issue, but it is not the catalyst for
    what is driving this note! "NO ONE" likes to be told when to go to
    bed, to eat all their vegatable. The issue is MODERATION requires tact 
    not enforcement. Teach and show people the errors of their ways and the
    will learn.  Ie. Build it and they will come...
    
    Two notes in one day 
         a record!
    
         John
691.9Mods: Relax or retire, but stop jerking around!KAOFS::LOCKYERNO! (Tact Is For Weenies!!)Thu Apr 22 1993 20:5420
    re: .7 -
    
    The only people who think this conference is in a mess (for reasons
    other than the actions of the moderators) is the moderators...
    
    The problem with this conference is the moderators, their ever
    increasing set of rules, and their lousy moderatorship...
    
    The moderators should either relax or retire, with the latter being
    preferred...
    
    To Stuart re: "bitching" - where I was raised, this is a swear word. 
    Perhaps you should delete your response in anticipation of how offended
    I might get...
    
    Regards,
    
    Garry, who's beginning to think Jean D., Normand C, Derek S, Mike C.
    and myself as moderators would be a definite improvement over the
    present regime...
691.10CSC32::S_BROOKI just passed myself going in the other direction!Thu Apr 22 1993 21:054
    OK, let's see how long you people can go without harrassment or
    insults being thrown.
    
    The writelocked notes are being opened.
691.11KAOFS::M_COTEI'm a mod, not a rockerFri Apr 23 1993 12:198
    I would like to moderate Derek as nominator.

    	I think.
    	
    	   Hmmm,

    	  Aw forget it.
691.12Mission Accomplished!!!!!!CTHU11::D_PAWSEYFri Apr 23 1993 12:589
There you go!  My intention was not to really UNSEAT anybody in particular
as the moderator, but only to loosen the reins a wee bit!  Lockyer - no
name calling or personal jabs at Stuart!  Y'all have to behave yourself
in this notesfile or else~!@#$.  

I didn't think that Stuart had a big nose!

Donster
691.13We had a seperatist problem... civil war is not civil.CSC32::D_ROYERChi beve birra campa cent'anni.Tue Apr 27 1993 15:3016
    Why not come in and check the COLORADO notes file, we just about got
    closed down by HRO for the discussion going on regarding Christians and
    non-christians.  
    
    The Moderators were forced to act or we loose.  I would not like to see
    the Canadian conference closed, better to act first, than not act.
    
    I nominate the people who are complaining about the moderation to be
    the new moderators.  Let them read up and understand all of the items
    that are to be disallowed, and how to keep the conference on the air.
    
    Bet there would be a lot less gripes.  
    
    Dave
    
    
691.14KAOFS::M_COTEI'm a mod, not a rockerTue Apr 27 1993 15:388


    	Hmmm, Royer. Don't sound Canadian to me Eh? I say we tie him up,
    set him outside in an igloo and pour cold 5% beer on him till he says
    Monsieur!
    
    
691.15What no smilies...CSC32::D_ROYERChi beve birra campa cent'anni.Tue Apr 27 1993 16:0312
691.16KAOFS::M_COTEI'm a mod, not a rockerTue Apr 27 1993 16:4315
691.17POLAR::RICHARDSONSick in a balanced sort of wayTue Apr 27 1993 16:466
    You aren't saying that American beer is better than Canadian beer are
    you? What is Horsepi$$, some kind of Russian concoction?
    
    Signed,
    
    Very Worried
691.18Hail to the moderators!KAOFS::LOCKYERNO! (Tact Is For Weenies!!)Tue Apr 27 1993 17:3810
    To Dave Royer,
    
    Thanks for agreeing that there should be new moderators.  Yours is not
    the first note to propose new moderators, but I suspect that your note
    will get the usual response from the current moderators - absolutely
    none.  Replacing the current moderators, or even adding additional (mor
    moderate?) ones, has about the same probability of happening as Sadaam 
    Hussein inviting Bill Clinton to govern Iraq...
    
    Garry                                        
691.19POLAR::RICHARDSONSick in a balanced sort of wayTue Apr 27 1993 17:5922
    Speaking of Bill Clinton, here's the Arkansas Reading Test:
    
	mr ducks
	mr not
	sar
	cm wangs
	lib
	mr ducks

	mr snakes
	mr not
	sar
	cm edbdiis
	lib
	mr snakes

	mr farmers
	mr not
	sar
	cmmt pockets
	lib
	mr farmers
691.20And now, something different...TROOA::DZIALOWSKITue Apr 27 1993 18:231
    Old Joke: what do US beer and making love in a canoe have in common ?
691.21answer ??KAOFS::D_STREETVirtue is relativeTue Apr 27 1993 18:331
    both are near water ??
691.23CTHU11::D_PAWSEYTue Apr 27 1993 20:244
Yo Moderator,

What happened to node 691.21?  I was just starting to  get a chuckle and
Oh Oh.....IT'S BACK%$^^!@&$%^&^$
691.24Please ... no swearing or profanitiesCSC32::S_BROOKI just passed myself going in the other direction!Tue Apr 27 1993 20:532
    While I personally didn't hide 691.22, I can tell you why it's hidden
    by asking everyone to avoid profanities and swear words ... 
691.25Hey I smiled... CSC32::D_ROYERChi beve birra campa cent'anni.Wed Apr 28 1993 14:0311
691.26Moderator, he said the F-word!TROOA::DZIALOWSKIWed Apr 28 1993 17:453
    re.-1
    close!
    "Both are f____ng close to water"