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Conference kaosws::canada

Title:True North Strong & Free
Notice:Introduction in Note 535, For Sale/Wanted in 524
Moderator:POLAR::RICHARDSON
Created:Fri Jun 19 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1040
Total number of notes:13668

174.0. "The buck stops NOW!" by KAOO01::JAMES (Al James @KAO) Fri Apr 28 1989 18:16

    On the news a few days ago, it was announced that the press that
    prints Canadian $1.00 bills was shutting down, FOREVER.
    
    Seems that since folks won't voluntarily switch to using the $1.00
    Looney coins, the government is going to force the issue.
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174.1CADSE::WONGLe Chinois FouFri Apr 28 1989 19:3623
    I'm surprised that there is that much resistance to using those
    new coins.  They don't have the problem that the American Susan B.
    Anthony dollars had with people mistaking it for the quarter.  I
    remember that the new coins were light, and very distinctive.
    
    Is it possible that the new coins might fuel inflation?  Coins have
    this image of being "just change"...it's not a standard unit of money.
    When talking about costs of things, everyone usually talks about
    "the dollar".  With the new coins, I could imagine that people would
    think of the dollar in the same way that they might consider the
    quarter...it's only "pocket change".  Now, everyone will think of
    prices in terms of two-dollar increments. (do they still have that?)
    
    On the topic of Canadian money, can anyone explain why the government
    changed the prints of the various denominations?  I remember the "OLD"
    money from fifteen years ago (or was it earlier), and I thought the
    new colorful money was very interesting to look at.  When I last got
    some new money a couple of years ago, some of the bills had their
    designs changed and also became mono-tone colored (e.g., the two
    dollar bill became all shades of pink-brown).
    
    B.
    
174.2My tuppence worthKAOM25::RUSHTONInspired lunacyFri Apr 28 1989 21:0351
174.3CADSE::WONGLe Chinois FouSun Apr 30 1989 19:356
    I remember when the first round of bills were changed, back in the
    70's.  My first reaction was, "gee, this stuff looks like play money!".
    
    That particular line of money seemed to be more complicated (with more
    lines drawn in, and liberal use of color combinations) than the new money.
    
174.4New phrases coined each dayLEDDEV::WATSONNo_MadTue May 02 1989 15:2112
Down here in the US, seems another reason for the negative reception the
Susan B.s got was that no one wanted a pocket full of coins for change from
a five-dollar bill, etc.  People like the feel of folding money in their
pockets, not a bunch of heavy, jingling, nickel-coated copper facsimiles...
or whatever they're made of these days.

'Course, since the American Buck ain't what it used to be, who cares?

Question: Just how LARGE (read: heavy) are these new $1.00 coins supposed
to be?

Kip
174.5KAOM25::RUSHTONInspired lunacyTue May 02 1989 15:294
<<Question: Just how LARGE (read: heavy) are these new $1.00 coins supposed
<<to be?

	About the weight of one adult loon.
174.6They fit parking meters tooWFOV12::KOEHLERworking on a 25 hr. dayTue May 02 1989 15:335
    Actually Kip, the new loon is about the size and weight of an
    American 25 cent piece.
       
    only brass colored
    Jim
174.7TRCO01::FINNEYKeep cool, but do not freeze ...Tue May 02 1989 16:045
    actually, Kip, the new loon is larger than the Yankee quarter, heavier,
    with 16 sides around the edge, and brass coloured. Impossible to
    mistake for a 25 cent piece of either US or Canada.
                               
    Scooter
174.8Most people find loonies okay, but some ...TRCA03::GENDRONFree advice is worth every cent!Tue May 02 1989 18:5310
    Although most people don't have any problem distinguishing the Loony
    from any other coin...
    
    Scooter still tries to pass off those gold-coloured, foil-covered
    chocolates (the ones that LOOK like coins ?) as the new loon.
    
    Get it together, Scooter!			8^>
    
    
    Dave (Scooter's neighbour)
174.9TRCO01::FINNEYKeep cool, but do not freeze ...Tue May 02 1989 19:064
    Geez Gendron, will you stop telling everybody that I'm your neighbor
    ? or else they'll start to believe you !
    
    Scooter
174.10we still have the twoTRCA03::OBRIENGlenn O'Brien @TRC 18/6Wed May 03 1989 00:265
    One thing that works in favour of the Loonie as opposed to the Susan
    B. Anthony coin is that we still have a two dollar bill.  It should
    cut down on the number of loonies in the pocket.
    
    Glenn
174.11CADSE::WONGLe Chinois FouWed May 03 1989 02:445
    Now, I wonder why the Canadian two-dollar bill is so successful
    while the Jefferson bill died so quickly?
    
    B,
    
174.12Still in use or notFCOIS1::WEHRLEWed May 03 1989 06:489
    
    Hallo,
    
    What's happen if we still go some $cn 1.00.  If the printing is
    shut down , is use also finish ?
    
    Maybe I can start a collection, because in Paris I can't use it.
    
    Eric.
174.13Still worth a buckTRCA03::GENDRONFree advice is worth every cent!Wed May 03 1989 12:409
    Sorry Eric, but it's not going to be a collector's piece for a long
    long time.  The government printed so many $1 bills that they won't
    be worth any more than a dollar (or so say the experts).
    
    But yes, it's still worth a buck!  It will still be accepted at
    all stores.
    
    
    Dave
174.14hang on to those `collector' bucks!KAOA01::JAMESAl James @KAOFri May 05 1989 13:5119
    re .13
    
    Yes but I believe paper money `wears out' pretty quickly.  (I know
    mine does when I jam loose bills in my pocket).  So the banks will
    routinely take the worn out bills out of circulation, replacing
    them with coins.  A large part of the motivation for this is that
    coins have a longer life-time and thus lower `cost'.                
                                                  
    The government expected this to happen as a natural evolution, but
    since it didn't (people habitually reach for bills, not coins),
    they're going to force it by shutting down the presses.  Expect
    to see paper bucks to be rare, soon.
    
    re a few back
    
    I always found it curious that in eastern Canada, if you get change
    for a five, you get 2 x $2.00 whereas in western Canada you get 
    4 x $1.00 and $2.00 bills are relatively unusual.
                                      
174.15The Wild WestKAOM25::RICHARDSONHe who laughs bestFri May 05 1989 14:5113
    Re .14 the $2 bill out West
    
    	Out West in the past, the two dollar bill was used for
    payment of services in places of ill repute, namely brothels.
    If you had two dollar bills in your pocket, it generally meant you
    were looking for a 'good time', as it were. As a result, the $2
    bill is still avoided by westerners today. Maybe the end of the
    $1 bill will force them to use the 2 now...
    
    	In the East, the $2 bill has never had this distinction, only
    the $3 bill has, and your rarely see those circulating in the East.
    
    Glenn
174.16KAOM25::TOMKINSThis MIND left blank INTENTIONALLYFri May 05 1989 15:274
     For a really good deal, the Mint is selling uncut pages of $1.00
    bills for $50.00. One uncut page of $1.00 bills consists of 40 bills.
    That means you pay $50.00 to get $40.00.
     Glenn, what else do you know about westerners?
174.17From Japanese point of viewJRDLSI::OOIStart me upSun May 07 1989 23:4011
       In Japan, there are 6 kinds of coins.
       1, 5, 10, 50, 100, and 500 yen.
       (1US$ = 130 yen, 1 Can$ = 115 yen approx)
       500 yen is relatively new, it was introduced several years ago.
       When 500 yen coin has begun to be used, many people wanted to collect
       it, because of their curiosity.

       I think it's good to have 1$ coin.
       When I had a trip to a US, I always had to bring many coins.
       Even for buying a coke, or making a telephone call, I need 2 or 3
       quaters. It made my pocket very heavy.
174.18not so much usefullFCOIS1::WEHRLEThu May 11 1989 07:027
    
    I don't think it's very usefull to have so much coins.
    
    In France we have 0.10  0.20  0.50  1  2  5  10 Francs coins, and
    I know that it's very heavy in the pocket. ( $cn 1.00 = 5 fr aprox).
    
    
174.19Loonie surveyKAOO01::LAPLANTENot the Northern MagusThu May 11 1989 11:3413
    I heard an interview with a Mint official yesterday about the loonie.
    
    He stated that a survey done two years ago just after they were
    introduced showed that 2/3 of the people liked/had no objection
    and 1/3 disliked the idea of the coin and would not accept it.
    
    A survey done within the last three months showed about the same
    ratios for liked/no objection to disliked. The big difference shown
    was in the actual acceptance; over 90% said they had accepted the
    coin during the previous two years and would continue to accept
    it. Apparently this was most satisfying to the Mint.
    
    Roger