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Conference kaosws::canada

Title:True North Strong & Free
Notice:Introduction in Note 535, For Sale/Wanted in 524
Moderator:POLAR::RICHARDSON
Created:Fri Jun 19 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1040
Total number of notes:13668

47.0. "Rain Drops Keep Failing On My Head" by TRCA03::KEHOE () Tue Jan 26 1988 15:23

    I had a quick look at todays Toronto Star (Jan 26, 1988) and it
    seems that the American Gov't has said NO to Canada's request for
    a clean up of the acid rain problem.
    
    What are your views on this topic? Do you think that the Canadian Gov't
    has any persuasive power against the American Gov't? For any Americans
    reading this note; are you aware of the problem of acid rain in Canada?

    Ron Kehoe.
                      
    
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47.1So long as they're not commie raindropsBMT::RIZZOCarol RizzoWed Jan 27 1988 03:5216
    Americans in the northern border states are acutely aware of the
    acid rain problem as it affects us as well. In my opinion, Americans
    are not informed as to how widespread the problem is or its economic
    affect in the years to come. 
    
    Canada gets so little play in the US media, how do you expect Americans
    to have any sense of it. Why more Americans can tell you who the
    president of Nicuraga is, than can tell you who's the Prime Minister
    of Canada. Its just not an iitem of importance. 
    
    So, if you want to impress upon American the sense of devastation,
    the cost of a deadening ecology, then you had better hire some good
    advertising and lobbying folks. (Micheal Deaver aside!)
    
    Carol
     
47.2Cold for acid rain FREE trade.29633::HOEfrom Colorado with love!Thu Jan 28 1988 21:1510
The states sends us acid rain and we send the states the Arctic
Cold fronts! Great exchange, no?

I worked on several utilities systems that have stack monitors
stack polution. The monitors reports the readings to the EPA.
Unfortunately, the EPA has no enforcement authority; just
advisories to the poluting power plant; part of Ronnie Raygun's
deregulation thinking.

/cal hoe
47.3Can you say "dead-lakes" I knew you could...TRCA03::KEHOEFri Jan 29 1988 15:3915
    RE .1:
    
    The Canadian Government has been actively working towards an agreement
    with the American Government for several years now. I don't think
    bringing in any new blood would help any.
    
    It seems to me that the American Government was able to stop their
    acid rain problem caused by Mexico. (Must have given them a break
    on the rates being charged on that huge loan.)
    
    Basically I think Canada won't be able to strike a deal unless it
    proves to be worth while to the American Gov't.
    
    Ron.
    
47.4Trade Terrorism?BMT::RIZZOCarol RizzoTue Feb 02 1988 03:5510
    If you want the US to sit up and take notice, refuse to sell natural
    resources. (of course that might hurt the Canadian economy.) The
    US buys a great deal of pulp and paper, lumber, electricity, water
    and yes, uranium. Of course the other thing Canada could do would
    be to send Brian down here and not let him back into Canada until
    the US begs and agrees to do something about the problem.
    
    BTW, survey say that Vermont will have only 15% of their maple syrup
    production by 1995 because of acid rain.
    
47.5Bucks or Ducks?TRCA03::KEHOETue Feb 02 1988 15:2011
>    Of course the other thing Canada could do would
>    be to send Brian down here and not let him back into Canada until
>    the US begs and agrees to do something about the problem.
                      
     I think most Canadians would put up with acid rain to get rid of Brian.
     You are right, however, Canada could not afford to stop selling
    resources to the U.S. and still hope to have a healthy economy.
    So I guess it's either healthy forest or healthy bank account. I
    know who wins 9 out of 10 times.....$
    
    Ron.                                 
47.6Get their attention!OTOU01::BUCKLANDI thought, therefore I was.Tue Feb 02 1988 16:2212
< Note 47.4 by BMT::RIZZO "Carol Rizzo" >
                             -< Trade Terrorism? >-

>    If you want the US to sit up and take notice, refuse to sell natural
>    resources. 
    
	... or elect a left wing government!  

	Want to bet that the US would notice Canada then?

Bob
 	
47.7What about the long term?IPG::REEVETim Reeve, REO-D/4-2, DTN: 830-6061Thu Feb 04 1988 10:0510
    >    So I guess it's either healthy forest or healthy bank account. I
    >	 know who wins 9 out of 10 times.....$ 
         
    The only problem is that in a few years time there won't be any
    forest and therefore no bank account. How can that be healthy for
    either side? A real problem is making any country accountable for
    reactions at a distance. We all know that nuclear waste is bad for
    us, so Chernobyl was a disaster. Factories have been with us a long
    time, so their pollution must be okay, especially if it lands in
    another country.