Conference kaosws::canada

    Do you think it has something to do with Ballard's retirement plans?
    
    An immenent announcement like that might motivate some of his employees.

    Yea, Harold will be getting involved soon.  Anybody playing for
    the leafs that is having a good year will soon be traded.  harold
    figures that these players will soon be asking for a raise so he
    might as well get rid of them now before they become a disruptive
    influence on the rest of teh team's pay scale.  Past history shows
    Vaive, Thomas, Sittler and Macdonald being just to name a few.
    So I guess that Wendel might as well put his house up for sell.
    
    PS  I hear that there is fan somewhere in Canada that lives and
    dies with the Buds.  His name is something like Lloyd, Beev..no,
    Bevan..yea that's it.  Why has he not replied to this note?

             
                  Le Canadien 3 TOT-ron-to 1.
    
    

	OK Carmen,Andy,Randy,Jim and the rest of you Habs fans.So the Canadiens 
got lucky again last night.I've never seen a luckier team in my life.Two out 
of the three Montreal goals again were classic Hab goals.The first goal hits 
a toronto player,bounces off right onto Lemieux's stick with an open net .The 
third goal was even worse.Even Chris Nilan (although I was surprised) can put 
a puck in when a normal Montreal shot from the point misses the net(as usual) 
bounces off the backboard and comes out the other side right on to his stick.
It's sickening to watch this, game in and game out from this team.
	Anyway enough of this game,on to my next beef.I'm tired of hearing
"Porous Norris" and all that crap.The Norris is the most competitive division 
in the N.H.L. I'd say we're more than holding our own against any other 
division in the league.Let's take last week for example.Toronto when they
won the five games in a row defeated 1) Mario and company 2) The Islanders
who are in first in their division 3) Chicago which by the way has the best
powerplay in the league 4) Winnipeg who is suppose to be a Contender in the
Smythe  5) and last but not least Boston,which i know isn't much of a team
but,right Dennis . That means they defeated a team from every division.
	Let's look at the other teams also.Detroit put an end to the Whalers
winning streak last week.Chicago defeated Winnipeg and should have beat the
Canadiens even though it ended in a tie. St. Louis held their own against
both Montreal and Quebec losing both by a goal and could have won either.
They did snap Toronto's winning streak so you know they must be a good team.
I can't remember what Minnesota did other that losing to Vancouver.OK, so
we lose some too but i'm not saying we don't.


	Anyone disagree with any of my comments,although i can't see how
anyone could.

    
    Bevan, teams in the Norris Division are really just one step ahead
    of minor league hockey. They should implement a system like in
    Europe, where the weakest team goes one level down, and the best
    team in weaker league goes one level up. Then again maybe not,
    you might never see the leafs again.
    

      HEY LLOYD(BEVAN),
        THE LEAFS GO ON ONE OF THEIR YEARLY WINNING STREAKS (WOW) AND
    THEY'RE WORLD BEATERS, ARE THEY? HOW LONG BEFORE TORONTO GOES ON
    LET'S SAY A 7-8 GAME ROAD TRIP? I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEIR RECORD
    IS ON THE ROAD COMPARED TO PLAYING IN HAROLD'S HOUSE OF HORRORS. WITH 
    DEFENCEMEN LIKE KOTSOPOULUS AND LANZ AND FORWARDS LIKE SEMENKO AND ALLISON
    AND THEIR HALF-PINT GOALTENDER, THEY'RE GONNA GO A LONG WAY( SARCASM,
    SARCASM). ANYTIME YOU WANT TO BET I'LL PUT THE BEST TEAM FROM THE
    ADAMS UP AGAINST THE BEST FROM THE "POROUS" ( IF YOU CAN FIND ONE
    THERE ) AND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. THE BRUINS ARE IN T.O. TONIGHT
    BUT OF COURSE YOU KNEW THAT BECAUSE BIG, BAD WENDEL HAS DECIDED
    THAT HE CAN'T PLAY. GET BROPHY TO GIVE HIM A SOOTHER AND NURSE HIM
    BACK TO HEALTH, THE CHICKEN____ !!!!!
                          
    BRUINS ALL THE WAY!!!
    DENNIS "BOURQUE"
    

    Personally, this Canadiens fan doesn't care what happens to the
    Leafs, but his opinion is slightly biased...:-)
    
    
    
    A Canadiens fan in Boston
    

    
    I have lived in Toronto for the past seven years and have been
    subjected to Leaf hockey for the same period of time. I would like
    to thank the leafs and owner Harold Ballard for making me appreciate
    real hockey! It's great to watch the HABS on TSN!
    
    Ron.

    Life's not easy as a Leafs fan.  It can even cause delirious behaviour.
    To mention Montreal, Boston, and the most competitive division in
    hockey, and not mention the Adams Division is puzzling.  Take a
    look at the standings and the Norris is awfully competitive.  But
    the emphasis is on awful, not competitive.  To compare a
    Toronto-Detroit game to a Montreal-Boston or Calgary-Edmonton game
    is going beyond the requirements of a true fan.  You just can't
    appreciate a good game of hockey.

    C'mon.  Let's get this topic going again!
    
    It's been 2 months since the last reply. Surely someone has something
    to comment on.

    
    
    Nothing is wrong with the Leafs. They have merrily gone to last
    place in the norris division. The are now stirring some excitement
    for the leaf fans with minnesota. Minnesota has made things a little
    easier for the leafs, since the  scored one goal during their
    last 4 games. I'm sure it's going to be tooth and nail between these
    two teams for last place.
    
    On the bigger scale of things the leafs are dead last in the entire
    league. That's 2!th place, bevan!!
    
    But why should Ballard worry, he's still filling up the gardens
    with a no-name team. 

>        But why should Ballard worry, he's still filling up the gardens
>    with a no-name team. 

 
    Actually he is not. Harry just had a non sellout a little while
    ago. Oh, btw the laughs once again pulled defeat from the jaws of
    victory last night against Hartford. That keeps their record in
    1988 to one victory and a few ties and a whole bunch of losses!
    
    Harry also fired the GM. Now if can fire himself the coach and most
    of the players (Wendel included) he would be doing something.
    
    Ron (go HABS go)

    Harry is laughing all the way to the bank, and all
    at leafs fans expense.
    Why should he bother spending extra money and get
    some real hockey players when they fill up the
    stands with loyal (suckers for punishment) fans.
    
    On the other hand, fans in Montreal will not pay
    to watch an incompetent team and that's why they
    have a long history of winning. Serge Savard, as
    well as all the other Habs GM's over the years,
    was hired to run the team his way and to produce 
    a winner. Priorities are different in Toronto
    because the fans seem to enjoy watching a loser.
    
    Harry is now taking applications to fill the GM
    position. Send your resume to: Toronto Maple Leafs, 
    Maple Leafs Garden, Toronto. Attention: Harold (Hound dog) Ballard.
     
    Les Canadiens sont la!

Re 14.

	The Montreal Canadiens organization is the greatest one that's ever 
existed in professional sports. The Soviets love playing hockey in the Montreal 
Forum because it is THE symbol of the great history of hockey. The Montreal 
Canadiens have won more Stanley Cups than the New York Yankees have one a World 
Series. The Montreal Canadiens have been a dominating force in the NHL decade 
after decade and will continue to be because of the aura that surrounds their 
very name!!! There is something magical about this team. When your at the Forum
watching them win you can feel the spirits of all the great players of the teams
history looking on and I'm certain the players of today can sense this too! When
a Canadien suits up for a game, he's not just putting on a jersey, he's putting
on the symbol of a living legend and he must live up to that legend or be sent 
to an ordinary hockey team!
	Let's face it Leaf Fans, the Magic's gone! A once great team has been 
ruined by a man who loves MONEY more than HOCKEY. I have nothing against the 
Toronto Maple Leafs but I do have something against fans who are jealous of the
level of greatness that the Montreal Canadiens have attained!
	So I fart in YOUR general direction, you son of a silly person, your 
mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries! Do not attempt a 
silly reply or I will taunt you a second time.

	Supersilliously Yours,

		Glenn ;-)

    I think you got the phrase backwards. It should be:
    "People who support a loser are losers themselves" taken from
    Earl McRae's 1981 article entitled "The Toronto Argonauts aren't
    awful because they're Argos. They're awful because they come
    from 'Loser City'."
    And seven years later, nothing has changed (except for the Argos).
    
    It's real nice to have a sentimental favorite but the person who
    wrote note 25.17, should try and keep a grip on reality when 
    comparing the Leafs and Habs (at least when comparing the last 20
    years).
    
    Anybody wanting a copy of the above mentionned article, reply to
    this note and include your mailstop.
    

    
    may i have a copy please!
    
    john molloy  NIO/N9
    
    

	My my, it appears that we have a Montreal hater here. You are no doubt 
refering to the choking Montreal Expos of '79 '80 '81. Yes they really choked,
and it seems they were choking on Cocaine. I believe the drug problem was a 
big factor in keeping that team from winning big.
	I sincerely hope that you're not a Blue Jay fan, they've had their 
moments of choking I'd say........

	By the way, if you don't have anything against the Montreal Canadiens,
then why do you call them the Hacks??? 

Yours in biased objectivity,

Sir Glenny Baby  8^)

    Why do Leafs fans keep going back to the Gardens ?
    
    Are the people who fill the stands really Leafs fans or 
    just sales people trying to get their clients drunk ?
    
    Will we see a competent Toronto Maple Leafs in our
    lifetime ?
    Can anyone answer these questions by remaining logical
    and realistic ?

    A little agressive, aren't we !! Just answer the question.
    
    Why do people fill the stands in Toronto to watch a 
    mediocre hockey team ?
    By the way, when was the last time you were at a Leafs game ??
    
    P.S. NA NA NA NA  NA NA NA NA  HEY HEY HEY  GOODBYE
    

    Oh yeah! And don't forget the old favorite:
    
    Les Canadiens, les Canadiens sont la!
    
    Go HABS Go! (where is dutchie?)
    
    Ron

    Re .26
    

    re .29
    
    	You're right, it doesn't seem fair at all that the Leafs will
    make the playoffs and 2 teams in the Patrick division will not.
    If those teams were in the Norris division, they would be battling
    it out for second place. I think they should go back to the old
    format of the five worst teams being eliminated and then have the
    top teams playing the bottom teams. That way you could have, for
    instance, the Canadiens and the Bruins in the final, which is
    impossible with the present system.
    	Oh well, at least my Habs are on an 8 game winning streak!!
    
    And now for word-association-football
    
    Glenn ;-)

    Finally, a response that talks about hockey. I knew I
    could provoke an intelligent response eventually.
    
    I agree with almost everything you said about the Leafs
    hockey team including the pathetic goalies and defence.
    If history teaches us anything, we can see that most
    hockey dynasties were built from the defence (except
    for the Oilers). The Leafs have made every effort to 
    ensure that their defence remain the worst in the league.
    Gary Nylund was the Leafs' first step in the right 
    direction but they screwed up again and lost him to 
    Chicago.
    As you said yourself, the Leafs' only hope is if
    Harold buys the farm. Until then, the losing tradition
    continues.
    I am a fan of good hockey first and I enjoy watching a 
    quality team. The Leafs have not fit into this category
    in 20 years. They aren't even entertaining to watch.
    I would compare taking in a Leafs game to watching 
    reruns of the 'Gong Show'. I apologize to the people out
    there who like the 'Gong Show'.
    All I am saying is that if the people of Toronto keep 
    supporting the Leafs the way they are, they are just 
    going to get more of what they see today. After all,
    its good ratings that kept the 'Gong Show' on the air
    as long it did.                                  
    

 Toronto metropolitan area is big enough to support 2 nhl franchises,
after all there are 3 in new york. This way people who wish to watch real
live hockey, without taking a drive to montreal, can see the new team. Some
expansion teams blossomed quite well and fast,ie. islanders,capitals.
Those who insist on watching the "make beliefs", there's a market out
there, can keep on doing so. The best of both worlds.

    Whatever happened to the franchise that Hamilton 
    was supposed to get ? They have been hungry to 
    get a franchise for years now.
    The Leafs organization would have no choice but
    to build a competitive hockey team if they wanted
    to keep their fans.
    
    Maybe someday, there will be professional hockey
    in southern Ontario.
    

    Heard on the radio this morning

    
    Hamilton has rejected the offer of an NHL franchise.
    
    They refuse to get one until Toronto gets one.

    there was a picture of andy moog wearing a boston uniform, with
    a big smile on his face in this mornings boston globe.  tough break
    TO.
    
    btw, that article about 'loser city' was great.  should be required
    reading for grade school children.  ;-)
    
    seriously, if TO fans keep going to watch the 'marpil laughs' whats
    the motivation for spending the money on players!  andy moog case
    in point.  TO fans should be talking boycott not fan loyalty.
    
    regards...john
    

    I hope that the North Stars make the playoffs and not the Leafs.
    That should wake Harold up, or at least make him think seriously!
    I don't know anything about Dave Semenko though, could you fill
    me in on it?

    Harold won't wake up until he starts losing money.
    
    He has no pride !
    
    

    I would also like to see the North Stars in the playoffs! That way
    the CBC will televise the Montreal series instead.
    
    Ron. 

    I heard that Semenko wasn't receiving much playing time anymore
    since the hammering he took from Bob Probert about 6 weeks ago.
    Brophy figured he was useless to the Leafs after that.  Once his
    reputation as an enforcer was tarnished, he could not fulfill his
    role with the Leafs. (and it wasn't as a goal scorer).

    If the leafs don't make the playoff(and i'm praying they do) i hope
    the CBC has enough sense to televise any other games other than
    Montreal's(maybe Calgary or Edmonton), but please don't make me sit
    through listening to Dick Irvin ranting and raving over the Hacks.
    
    
    Bevan ( An_ABM_fan_if_the_leafs_dont_make_it).

    Gee Bevan,  what's an ABM fan?
    
    pete

    One more point of interest...for those interested.
    
    The sunday edition of the Toronto Star had an advertisement announcing
    the deadline for Leaf's season ticket holders to pick up their playoff
    tickets.

    
    I'm sure it means Anyone But Montreal. I run into these types all
    the time!
    
    Glenn
    

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    These bitter Toronto fans never stop cutting the premier franchise
    in the world.  I would like to invite any Toronto fan to read the
    best selling novel "Lions in Winter", then maybe you will understand
    why we Montreal fans are so loyal. 
    
    Ron.
    
    PS: Dick Irvan braggs alot because he has something to brag about.

    
    Let's not go too hard on the leafs, they are currently in the hotest
    battle. Most of the other teams have settled in their position but
    the leafs and the starts are battling it out. Maybe this was all
    a big plan, rest for the season and then finish off those tired
    Red Wings.

    Let me shed some light on who this Dfleming is (or why he is!!)
    
    This person has put up with two (2) Maple Laughs games each week.
    Now that he is able to watch real hockey, he has seen that the Leafs
    are in fact a 4th rate team.
    
    Forgive him for his zealous enthusiasm...he now has real hockey
    to watch...anything without the Leafs!!!!!

	Gee whilikers, hockey fans!! What can I say, I can't believe
you armchair jocks are wasting all this electronic space on likes
 of HOCKEY PLAYERS!!

	I mean, these are guys whose IQ's match their skate sizes.
They still lace-up skates because it's taken half their adult life
to learn how to do it, and the only way they know to shot at the
opponents net and not their own is because during training the
coach ties their mothers spread-eagle across their goal mouth!

	Gosh darn, fellas!  Hockey players have been known to fart
into gas tanks just to jump start their tri-cycles.  Would you trust
a guy with your sister who goes to bed with his hockey stick with
the anticipated wet-dream of during dubious sexual aberrations
to little dogs, moose and battered hockey pucks?  C'mon gimme a break!

	It's a good thing the cretins who run the NHL put a stop to
the practice of eating the defeated team at the end of each game - now
they stop them from eating the pucks!

	But, golly gee guys.  Do have fun foaming at the mouth as your
favourite hoard cluster-smushes the other hoard, during the National
Horrible League's Stanley Smuck Puke-offs.

	I'll be watching re-runs of 'I Love Lucy Meets Hulk Hogan'.













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Pat_in_fun_ness

	The so called "man" who put in .53 was obviously allowed to play with
Barbie Dolls when he was growing up. He also probably had an Easy Bake Oven
and threw tea parties all the time!

Glenn who_played_with_G_I_Joes_when_growing_up!

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0 0 
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.55>>I fart in your general direction- you probably sit down to
.55>>urinate!

Ah-ha!  It was you who was peering under the stalls in the men's
loo!!  Naughty boy, you should go back to the ladies'.

Jiminy cricket!!  Don't you guys know dead air when you smell it?
Hockey players are extremely low on the food chain...I mean, viruses
have PhD's, what in all of vacuum-land do hockey players have, eh??



Fork-marks on their foreheads.  These guys still bob for French-fries!
Their managers took away their crayons because they were eating them,
and they gave crayons only because the players kept jabbing their
faces with the pointy end of their pencils at contract time.

Glenn, you talk of 'manly'-ness??  You still getting over Elizabeth's
silver medal, 'cause you can't seriously consider that any jerk
who wears short pants, long woollen stockings and a garter belt to be
a man.


Tauntingly yours,


Pat_in_all_his_manliness
;*)

.57>>No insult to women intended
    
Golly, Dean I didn't intend for you to get your panty-hose in a knot.
Now, if you were a 'man', we could discuss this man-to-man. 8*}

But let's get back on topic - the Leafs are dead!
All of 'em!
Apparently, when they stepped onto the ice they noticed that there was
another team there too - the Leafs instantly died of fright.  Ballard
had under-handedly told them that no-one would be playing against them,
so they thought they might have a fighting chance.  Ballard knew that
the shock would kill them, and he would be rid of them - it worked!
    
Funeral arrangements have been cancelled due to a lack of interest.    

Pat    

    Geek??
     
      Ok Dfleming, your on you own.  The Leafs are a joke to hockey.
     How can anybody take them seriously??  This is a badly managed,
    badly coached, bad everything team.  Go for all the punishment that
    you can take.  Want to go to a stoning??
    
                                  Two large ones, and a packet of gravel!
    

    Dean,
    
    	I'll watch your back,us leafs fans have to stick together.
    
    
    	bevan

    
    Bevan, which century are u talking about? It takes a long time to
    rebuild.
    
    -c

    Frycer isn't a hockey player, he is a "dancer".  This is typical
    of the leafs, jump ship!!!
    
    Next it will be the fans that will be leaving.  Long live Ballard!!
    
                                          Die leafs die...

re 62.
	Dean,there's also no doubt in my mind that things won't improve
until Harold bites the big one but i have to disagree with you on Brophy's
coaching abilties.There has to be a complete house cleaning from the owner,
coach and scouts.Any team that has had as many 1st,2nd and 3rd overall picks 
in the last 20 years as Toronto has and still hasn't much on the parent 
team and nothing on the farm must have something wrong. When they have 
picked a half decent player, they usually don't let him develop and then 
trade him away.(examples to name a few,Boschman,Poddubny,Caryle).Then if 
you play well and want more money(another no no to Harry),you get traded 
(2 good examples- Lanny for Wilf Paiement and Darryl).The next one to be 
traded will probably be Vincent Damphousse,who NOMIND Brophy sat on the 
bench for a good part of this year because he doesn't like French Canadians.
Damphousse can be a real good one if they just let him develop.
	When the leafs hired Brophy i thought it was a mistake and the
more time goes by i KNOW it was ,although him and Harry make a good match.
Why they didn't go after a first rate coach(like maybe Kilrea or Carpenter
when he was fired by New Jersey) i'll never know.



	Anyway,I guess again we'll have to salvage another horrible season
by thumpimg the "Dead Things" without Yzerman (sorry Pete i had to get a 
shot in) twice this weekend to get into the playoffs and then put them
away when we get there.


	Bevan

OK, OK.  The truce is over Bevan!!!!
 
       You don't know how hard it has been for me to defend the Norris
    division all year with a team like the Laffs in it.  Seriously though,
    I am scared of a series with the Wings against the Buds.  For whatever
    reason, Toronto's whole season revolves around how they do with
    Detroit.  Detroit though realizes, unlike Toronto, that just because
    they would probably fill the rink (and the bank) if they were losers,
    that they owe it to the fans to put a TEAM that has a reasonable
    chance of winning on the ice.   They should throw Ballard into
    Millhaven again for fraud and grand larceny of the public.
    I'll give Semenko credit.  He's not a cementhead after all...he
    does have an intelligent enuff mind to get the hell out of that
    ridiculous situation.  While we're on the subject of Semenko, to
    your new pal Dean, the only way Semenko could get revenge on Probert
    would be to jump him from behind (he's done that before).  I realize
    that Mr Brophy wants to get Bob and his 30 goals or so off the ice
    but he should leave poor Davey alone.  Hasn't he had enough punishment
    already.  Now that I think about it, first there was Wendel, then
    Semenko...where are they now?...Hey that's the reason Frycer walked
    out yesterday....Brophy wanted him to try to fight Probert.

    What did Brophy say earlier in the year?  Something like "We're
    not that far from being a good team like Detroit"  And Demers says
    "I'd say 17 points is pretty far".  Of course that differential
    has changed a tiny bit (like 41 points).
    
    Heard on the radio the other morning:
    
    What do the Winnipeg Blue Bombers, Montreal Expos, and Toronto Maple
    Leafs have in common?
    
    None of them play hockey!
    
    That's it for now.  You caught me off guard.  Good luck to Toronto
    this weekend.  If they can pull it off, at least we'd get to see 
    the Wings on CBC instead of some second rate teams like the Hacks
    or the Baby Bears.  But until next week
    
    Go Minny
    

    
        And Bevan...All this talk reminds me of a similar
    one last year around this time....remember these following messages?

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From:   KAOFS::GRAHAM        14-APR-87
To:	SNOFS1::PAVEZKA
Subj:	the fall of the wings

Mr. P.,

	How's it going down under.Your Wings were shaking in their boots
at the thought of playing the powerful Leafs,so what do they do? Check the
scoreboard to see if the Leafs were winning last night and when the found
out they weren't they gave up first spot so they wouldn't get thumped by us.
	That's Ok because once we dispose of the Blues we'll come gunning
for the DEAD THINGS,that is if they happen to luck by the black hawks.


		"Wendell" 

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From:	KAFSV4::GRAHAM       15-APR-1987 10:28
To:	SNOFS1::PAVEZKA
Subj:	playoff update (this will cost)
    
gidday,

	Yes your Wings did sneak by Chicago but look out when the mighty Leafs
get hold of them,that is after we dispose of the Blues.Right now the series
are as follows.

	Montreal won 4-0 against Boston. Elly isn't to impressed.
	Edmonton leads L.A. 3-1.
	Winnipeg leads Calgary 3-1.
	Washington leads the Islanders 3-1.
	Hartford and Quebec are tied 2-2.
	Philly and the Rangers are tied 2-2 and last and most important
	the Mighty Leafs and St. Louis are tied 2-2.


	It's almost 8:30 pm here and the hockey game in St. Louis is
about to start so ttfn.


		Bevan


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From:	SNOFS1::PAVEZKA      17-APR-1987 21:24
To:	KAFSV1::GRAHAM,PAVEZKA     
Subj:	Battle of the titans

Well, I see where your buds lucked out.  I guess we knew all along that the 
two best teams would eventually meet. Cream rising to the top and all.  And what
does Elly think of the playoffs now?  Is he even going to bother following 
them?  Anyway, the octupi will be flying in the Joe Louis on tuesday.

keep in touch...pete


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From:	KAFSV1::GRAHAM       22-APR-1987 06:15
To:	SNOFS1::PAVEZKA
Subj:	Look out Wings

Hello Mr. P.

	Now for the more important stuff.Tonight is the night the mighty
Leafs show the Wings how to play hockey.I don't want to hear any crying 
from Austrialia about 11 pm. edt.


		Have fun,
		Bevan "Wendell" Graham 

P.S.

	Remember to send the 5 bucks at the end of this series.

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From:	SNOFS1::PAVEZKA      "Ford Falcon - Official car of the CDG" 22-APR-1987 08:33
To:	KAFSV1::GRAHAM,PAVEZKA     
Subj:	RE: Look out Wings

You're dreaming pardner.  

Newflash.... Wendall K.O'd by an intoxicated Probert

ttfn...pete

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From:	SNOFS1::PAVEZKA      "S PACK - OFFICAL CAR OF THE CDG" 22-APR-1987 14:44
To:	KAFSV1::GRAHAM,PAVEZKA     
Subj:	piss off

F**K OFF!!!  It's all part of the master plan.  The Wings just want the extra
game at home.  20000 fans pay a lot of high priced contracts next year for all 
of our #1 picks that pan out.  Wings in 7!!!

pete



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From:	SNOFS1::PAVEZKA      "S PACK - OFFICAL CAR OF THE CDG" 24-APR-1987 16:19
To:	KAFSV1::GRAHAM,PAVEZKA     
Subj:	enuffffffffffff......

Well, how do you want that $5? In Aussie dollars?  At least I'm coming
back early.  Tom called Jacques Demers and offered my services.  I can 
stop the shots from centre (sometimes).  About the only good thing I'm hearing
about the playoffs is that Montreal may soon be na na na na ,,na na na na,,
hey hey hey ,,goodbye.


see you in June.

pete

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From:	SNOFS1::PAVEZKA      "S PACK - OFFICAL CAR OF THE CDG" 26-APR-1987 15:28
To:	KAFSV1::GRAHAM,PAVEZKA     
Subj:	birthday greetings

May I use this opportunity to wish you the most pleasant of birthdays.
Jacques said that he would be giving you the best present possible.  And I see
that he did.  I'll stick by my previous prediction.  I hear that you are 
giving Sandy a rough time over the results so far.  A long way to go.

Anyway, Happy Birthday Lloyd.  I'll have a beer for you. (maybe more)

till later...pete

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From:	SNOFS1::PAVEZKA      "S PACK - OFFICAL CAR OF THE CDG"  4-MAY-1987 13:21
To:	KAFSV1::GRAHAM,PAVEZKA     
Subj:	The universe is unfolding as it should!!!!!

Well, I tried phoning you to inform you of the final score.  I guess you
told the operator that you weren't taking calls.  So, this is the next best
thing.  Just wait until I get back!!!  No wonder that Canada got wiped out at 
the world's when the 'best' players in the world weren't available but
were wearing the red and white of another team.  History has been made. 
Spotted you a 3-1 lead and let you sniff it for a while and then take it away
from you.  To put it in your words, "They were just teasing them". 

I hope that Demers got back at Brophy for the 'choke' sign he was given 
earlier in the year.  Brophy will be crying on Sportsline tonight.  I'm 
luving this, I could go on for hours but must get back to work.  At least I'll 
be in a good mood for the rest of the week.

Maybe the Wings will wait next year until the first game with the Leafs in 
Detroit before the "Norris Division Champions-1986-87" banner is raised to the
rafters of the Joe Louis.

Anyway, bring on the Oilers and that wimp Gretzky.  if he whines that 
Hawerchuck did a number on him, wait until Yzerman (the Barrhaven kid) gets 
ahold of him.
I hope that you will be supporting the Norris rep the rest of the playoffs.

Bye for now from the land down under...pete

P.S. - This note will be forwarded to many interested parties.
Take care. Don't commit harri-karri.

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From:	SNOFS1::PAVEZKA      "S PACK - OFFICAL CAR OF THE CDG"  6-MAY-1987 16:09
To:	KAFSV1::GRAHAM,PAVEZKA     
Subj:	are you still alive?

G'day.  I'm just wondering if you are still alive?  I haven't heard any
response to my last memo and was getting worried.

Meanwhile, I have also just found out the result of game 1 in the semis.
This is too good to be true!  Don't let me wake up from this dream.  I've got 
all of DEC Australia pulling for the Wings.  Sandy has been taping all the
games for me so maybe when I get back, we'll have you over to relive the
experience.  

A team of Destiny?  As long as they are respectable.

cheers...pete

    The Laughs are laughing...

    
    
    I think that all you Toronto fans should be ashamed not proud of
    the fact that the laughs made the playoffs. When a team like Pittsburgh
    is out of it and Toronto makes it, something is wrong.
    
    Ron (HABS MAKE IT 24).

    re: .70
    
    "Je me souviens"  What is the English traslation, please ?  
    
    On fishing trips to Canada in 1984-85 I noticed that same phrase
    on the Quebec license plates.  
    
    Thanks in advance...
    
    Gary

        "Je me souviens" veut dire "I remember".
        
        Je me souviens reading somewhere that Quebec is the only province
        with a 'political connotation' to its motto.  Interpret
        'political', 'connotation', 'je me souviens' and 'I remember'
        the way you want: the Maple Leafs hockey team still are to hockey 
        what mudflaps are to turtoises.  (Old Australian saying.)
        
        Pierre qui-se-rappelle
        

    RE:-1 yes, you are right, as a matter of fact on the quebec emblem.
    

    So the leafs won 6-2 against the "Dead things". That's great, because
    I picked the leafs to lose in 5! I was worry they might go in 4.
    
    Ron.

    I hate to say I told you so, but.....I had a bad feeling about this
    series.  I know it's only 1 game but the Leafs looked not bad last
    night.
    
    The Wings should never have let the Leafs off the mat on Saturday.

    pete

    For those of you that are keeping count....
    
    Montreal 2 games Hartford 0 games!
    Yeah! Go Habs Go. My money is on Montreal to take the cup this year.
    Number 24 here we come....
    
    Ron

    Now that's more like the leafs.  What a fine game they played last
    night.  Please leafs...get beaten quickly...get them off the T.V.
    
                                        Waiting to see real hockey

    I been a fan of the leafs for 20 years but this is the last year
    I root for them. I saw them in person this year and it was sad to
    watch. I couldn't watch last nights game with Detroit because I
    would start cheering for Detroit.
    
    I agree with the last note, get them off T.V. so some interest can
    be generated in some good hockey. 
    
    GO HABS GO

    boy...the leaf "fans" are quite.
    
    Please lord let this mess end.  Get the leafs on the golf course,
    they shouldn't be on the ice.

    well...
    
      The "rats" are abandoning the ship!!!  I bet that some are dumb
    enough to root for Boston!!!
    
                                              watching the carnage
    

    No Kidding, I happened to be in the Boston Bruins note this morning
    looking to see what they had to say about their impending defeat
    to the next holers of Lord Stanley's Cup, yes none other than the
    Buffalo Sabres, and their I saw Dean Fleming singing the praises
    of the lowly Bruins.
    
    Dean, give your head a shake.  If you don't have the guts to stand
    behind your own team, at least have the brains to support a team
    that will last a little longer.  Unless you want to see both your
    leafs and your new team, the bruins, out on the course together
    this weekend.

    Well, well, I must say this morning I am pleasantly surprised. The
    Leafs played a respectable game of hockey last night, I think thats
    all we Leaf fans were asking for. Even if they had lost last night
    in overtime, I would have been satisfied to see them go out with
    a respectable showing in their last game. I wonder how they will
    be received at the gardens, Sunday nights game will be hard to forget
    for those fans in attendance. Even though the Leafs won last night
    I still have to complain about the officiating. Fraser has got to
    be the worst ref in the league, he is so inconsistent. From the
    Leafs side the high stick on Olcyk drawing blood and no penalty
    is crap, they have been calling that all year, regardless of intent.
    He didn,t see it-lame, lame, lame- consult your linesmen, they can
    also make the call for highsticking. In all fairness to Detroit
    he was terrible for them as well. Letting things go then calling
    a rash of penalties- no consistency what so ever. This is not sour
    grapes- I'm elated- Leafs win, Bruins win, and the Hacks lose all
    in one night! I must be dreaming.
    
    
    Leafs in 199?
    

    re .88
    
    I agree with you about the referring.  It should have been a penalty
    against Detroit for drawing blood (it was an accident, but that
    shouldn't matter).  Fraser did miss a lot of calls both ways and
    called others that i'd say were questionable.  He sure likes to
    call coincidental penalties.  What really upset me was the call
    he made behind Detroit's net for hooking Inachak (it was hooking
    originally but it wasn't called then...not until a couple of seconds
    later whan he took a dive).  And if he could call that, how could
    he not make the call with about 3 minutes left when Chabot and Klima
    wwe going in on the 2 on 1 and Klima was hooked, held, interfered
    whatever....no call.  Now I know what the Bruin fans were complaining
    about Fraser on Sunday.
    
    I give the Leafs credit...they didn't die....they made the most
    of their chances...5 goals on 12 shots after the second.  Wings
    owned the third...they just couldn't get their stick on the puck
    in front of the net after nice setups.
    
    I'm worried about Detroit's goaltending though.  Hanlon hasn't exactly
    been himself in this series and Stefan shouldn't even be dressed
    if his knee is bothering him that much.  Olzcyk's overtime goal
    was certainly stoppable but Stefan just can't move his right leg
    very good.
    
    Looks like Yzerman may have to dress for Game 7.
    
    pete  

    Re .89
    Speaking of Detroit goaltending- has anyone heard the status of
    Hanlon? I guess he took a good one, looked rather harmless.
    Any reports of his condition?
    

    Hanlon has a pulled left groin muscle!
    
    Apparently Stefan had stomach flu yesterday.

    RE .91
    
      Who cares:
    
       Lets get this thing finished.  Get the leafs off the T.V. with
    whoever it takes.

    RE .92
    
    Don't be too sure who is going to be off TV!
    
    solidarity
    
    Dean_who_should_know_better
    

    Does anyone know who is starting in nets for the Wings tonight?
    With Hanlon hurt and Stefan not really up to par I'm wondering if
    they're going to be forced to call someone up.
    
    Anybody? (except you baxter!)
    

    Any predictions for tonights game?
    
    I think the Leafs are going to pull this one off, for two reasons.
    
    1) Current state of Detroit goaltending.
    
    2) Leaf team pride (it does exist)- they have a lot to prove to
    the hometown fans for Sunday, and I think that they will come out
    flying!
                                                             

    ALRIGHT!!!!! It's over.
    
    Old scar face took a obvious penalty, and the leafs died.  Thanks
    Borjang.
    
    Now Dfleming, go back to your cave for another 40 years and don't
    utter a word (even if someone steals your juniper berries).  The
    leaf never had any pride.  If they did, they wouldn't have allowed
    themselves in the playoffs.  That would have saved all that wasted
    air time and allowed the folks in southern Ontario the Montreal
    games in English.
    
    Has anyone seen Bevan today???
    
                                                   Offering the towel;
    

    Neil, don't worry about Bevan.  He received a phone call from yours
    truly shortly after the game.  He also has to suffer thru a 7 hour
    trip tomorrow listening to comments from various people (including
    me).  
    
    One thing about the game....
    
    They shouldn't put a mike near Brophy. 

    re .96
    
    "Don't You Oppress Me!"
    Yes the Leafs are gone. They also went out with a fight, and a certain
    degree of respectability. Wait until next year you EXCREMENT!!
    
    re .97
    
    wasn't that pretty? Can you imagine what he said to Degray behind
    closed doors.
    
    Congratulations Wings
                 
    Dean_who_can_still_feel_good_about_the_LEAFS

    Looks like you guys have been busy the last three weeks.
    
    I'm back just in time make a few closing comments about
    the second most pathetic team in 1988.(who shouldn't be
    in the playoffs anyway)
    We can finally turn on the T.V. and be sure of seeing 
    professionnal hockey. The Leafs are dead and will be 
    back next year with the same klutzes masquerading as
    hockey players. It's nice to be optimistic but
    ' Get a grip on reality, Dean!!'. Can you honestly
    look at the Leafs organization and expect to see
    a competent hockey team within the next five years???
    
    It's very discouraging being a Leafs fan, especially 
    when there is a very succesful organization in 
    Montreal who have a long history of winning (23 cups)
    and are a serious contender again this year.
    Jealousy is bound to set in and we can see it 
    demonstrated in this notes file as the ABM attitude.(also
    prominent in the Bruins conference)
    
    Anyway, the Leafs are gone and we can look forward to 
    great hockey on CBC with the Bruins-Habs series.
    
    GO HABS GO 
    
    RAIDERS TRIUMPH AGAIN

    Re .99 (Mr. Crepin)

    What a stroke of luck that there was a power failure in Quebec tonight.
    We didn't have to listen to Dick Irvin.  I hear that the failure
    was caused by a transformer that got knocked out by empty beer bottles 
    being thrown from people inside a 2-tone grey Astro van as it passed
    through Montreal.  It was last seen speeding towards the Ontario
    border.  Witnesses report hearing voices from inside the van saying
    "That one's for you, Stefanie.  See you by the pool in FLA". 

    Re .100
    
    One observer also said he heard: "WHALE HO, MAN THE HARPOONS"
    coming from inside the van.
    
    Go Habs Go
    Reg

    re .101
    
    The van was also seen in the parking lot at Whaleback Mountain in
    Vermont and the van was rocking quite violently.  An observer 
    reported hearing a series of mufled explosions and then heard a
    voice saying; "That **** is nooooooooo good!" 

    re .102
    
    Q: Who own the Raiders???
    
    A: Ownzzzzz, Ownzzzzzzzz.
    
    My hallergy these Mill guys, it make me puke, like dat, puke!!!
    

    re .104
    Dean, if you really want to attack someone verbally, you should
    at least know what you're talking about before mindlessly babbling
    on. It seems to me that the last attack was provoked by me 
    saying that Leafs fans hate the Habs because they are winners. Right??
    Leafs fans want a winning team. Right?? 
    The Leafs are a disgrace. Right??
    
    There are probably a lot of reasons why you hate the Habs, but the
    main reason you hate them is because 'THEY WIN'. Right???
    Now, pick up a dictionnary and read (assuming you can) the 
    definition 'jealousy'.
    If you can deny that you jealous of the Habs and their fans because
    they win, you, my friend, are a boldfaced liar.
    
    Before you start your next mindless attack, take a look at your
    own statements regarding the Leafs. Phrases like: "Leafs are a 
    disgrace" and "I am sickened and frustrated" .60, "the present
    Leafs team is second rate" .55, "Even die hard Leaf fans are
    beginning to tire of the level of incompetence" .62, and
    reply .64 about Frycer leaving: "another rat abandoning the very
    quickly sinking S.S. Ballard". Are these the words of a loyal fan????
    
    I have to agree with every one of your statements so don't attack
    me. You have been doing most of the Leafs Bashing in this conference
    and then attacking anyone who agrees with you.
    
    Just for the record, I have been a Habs fan since birth but have
    always been a hockey fan first. During the years when they were
    awful, I was still a fan but would get frustrated watching the
    incompetent play on the ice. At that time, I prefered watching
    the N.Y. Islanders simply because they played the game better.
    I was never a fan of theirs, but I respected the way they played
    and it was more entertaining.
    
    Give your head a shake before you go shooting your mouth off
    again.
    
    Oh, by the way, Habs make it 1-0 and play very well, thank you.
    
    
    re .103  No offense meant to the Mill guys it's just a quote
    	     from the movie "Slap Shot". 
    	     Just like: "Here's to all that gorgeous sn@#& in FLA."
    
    Mike

    Being born and raised in Montreal, I can state from experience and
    documented law that every child born in Montreal is immediately
    on birth injected with a drug (description and origin unknown) which
    forces the recipient to become a Montreal Canadiens fan for life.
    There is no known cure or antidote. :-)
    
    Otto Hasibeder
    Instructor Extraordinaire
    Vancouver (home of no known hockey teams)
    You have my word on it! 
        

    re .105  My apologies to Dean for some of the comments
             made in this reply. The only thing I wanted to 
    	     say was to keep the jousting to a minimum and 
    	     at least have some foundation to your assumptions.
    
    By the way, why do you hate the Habs ?
                                         
    
    Mike_one_of_the_many_loyal_Canadiens_fans
                    

    I can't believe it.
    
    It's 3:15 pm and nobody has made any comments about
    the Habs losing.
    
    One thing is for sure, Lemelin should be running for
    mayor of Boston.
    
    Mike

    Hey Crep.  It's 3:41.
    
    The Habs lost last night.
    
    pete

    I'll make a comment about the habs losing. I think that its a dark
    day in hockey when a team like the Boston "Ruins" can walk into
    the "FORUM" and beat my Canadiens. I mean there is no way that they
    should have even been on the scoreboard! I watched the game, even
    after they butchered Stephan, and I thought that Montreal out played
    Boston in every aspect of the game except dirty play.
    
    Can't wait until Friday when the Ruins will be demolished by the
    habs. There is no place in Hockey for what Boston does. 
    
    Ron

    re -.1
    
    Ron,
    
    	I dare you to enter your last reply in the BOSTON_BRUINS
    conference!
    
    Glenn ;-)

    I also agree. The Bruins were badly outplayed but
    history teaches us that "hot" goalies win playoff 
    games and Lemelin was "HOT"(either that or damned lucky).
    
    However, I don't think he can keep it up for the whole
    series. The rest of his team has been snoozing for two
    games and he's going to need some support eventually.
    
    Prediction: Habs take it in 6.
    
    Go Habs Go!
    
    Mike

    The "kissing bandit" is still on Whaleback Mountain, and
    what a mountain it was!!!!!!
    
    No Habs No
    
    Regards,
    
    Darcy

    G'day lads!!!!
    I'm still here but like D'Arcy said, that is one helluva mountain.
    And the "valley" in between is verrrrrryyyy deep!!!!!!
    
    Mr. Crepin: it ain't over til it's over. I'll save myself for the
                end of the series.
    
    Bruins all the way!!!!!

    The Canadiens seem to have fallen upon hard times at the wrong time.
    It looks tough now to beat the thugs of Boston. I still am hoping
    that the habs will come back with 3 in a row though.
    
    Points about the games....Montreal looked very slugish the last
    game, I understand several players have the flu? Is this true?
    
    Ron..
    
    Go Habs GO!!

           :')   :')   :')
    
       There's a tune being sung all over Digital today,maybe some of
    you know it .
    
    	NA NA NA NA, NA NA NA NA , HEY HEY GOODBYE !!!!
    
    
       Carmen,maybe we should start another note titled "What's wrong with
    the Hacks."
    
    re .96
    
    	Has anyone seen Neil today ?(except Dennis).
                                 
    
    
    Bevan_who_is_offering_Neil_his_towel_back
     

    Finally, now that we have the riff-raff off of the airwaves, we'll
    be able to watch some of the good teams play.  
    
    I am pleading to the producers of Hockey Night in Canada....please..
    please...pullleeeaaassseee...don't assign Dick Irvin to one of the
    remaining series.
    
    pete

    Calling all "Hacks" fans........
    
    Can you say 4 - 1.
    Ya, that's it. I knew you could.
    I was going to take the afternoon off to go golfing but I figured
    that the courses would be kind of busy after last night, if you
    know what I mean.
    
    Jinx????? What jinx???????????????????
    
    BRUINS IN '88
    
    DENNIS

    Yes, that's right, I'm back!!!
    I'm just recovering from watching the Habs screw up
    another 40 scoring chances and lose yet again (my nerves
    can't take it).
    Congrats to the Bruins, they were definitely the best team
    in this series and, for once, earned some respect by not
    rolling over and dying in the Forum. Bourque and Lemelin
    were awesome.
    Well I'm going to Hull tonight to watch the Olympiques (the 
    future Memorial Cup champs) and Drummondville play in the 
    Quebec league final. At least THEY can score goals.
    
    To Rob, Dean, Steve, Dennis, Bevan, Peter P., Peter O., I wonder if
    the Bruins, Red Wings and Leafs have as many Stanley Cups
    combined as the Habs have won.(I wouldn't normally bring it
    up, but I've been harrassed all day).
    
    See you next year. 
    
    GO DEVILS GO!
    
    Mike_who's_still_in_mourning_so_DON'T_BUG_ME.
                  

    MIKE C.
    
    ALAIN VIGNEAULT, THE HULL COACH, HAS ASKED ME TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE
    REFRAIN FROM GOING TO THEIR GAMES AS IT SEEMS YOUR MONTREAL CANADIANS
    TYPE OF SUPPORT IS RUBBING OFF ON THE OLYMPIQUES.
    
    LES HABITNOTS SONT MORTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    ELLY

   > re Note 25.119 by Mike Crepin     
        
   > To Rob, Dean, Steve, Dennis, Bevan, Peter P., Peter O., I wonder if
   > the Bruins, Red Wings and Leafs have as many Stanley Cups
   > combined as the Habs have won.(I wouldn't normally bring it
   > up, but I've been harrassed all day).
    
   > Mike_who's_still_in_mourning_so_DON'T_BUG_ME.
    
    Mike, I finally found the answer.  Yes, they have won more Cups
    than Montreal. Ha HA.
    
    Toronto   11
    Detroit    7
    Boston     5
              --
    Total     23        which beats Montreal's paltry total of 22.
    
    So take that :-)
    
    pete    

	I'm afraid you've made a mistake in your calculations. You see, in 
1986 the Montreal Canadiens won their 23rd Stanley Cup!! SO, I guess that 
shoots your silly little formula to pieces doesn't it??

Stop picking on us Habs fans anyway will ya??

Glenn 8^)

    Thanks for clearing that up, Glenn.
    
    Well Pete, who knows ? Maybe the Bruins will beat Edmonton
    and the Three Stooges can bring their total to 24.  :')
    
    Does anybody out there have any opinions about:
    
    Any predictions on the Boston-Edmonton series ?
    Who will replace Perron as Habs coach ?  
    Which one of the Red Wings' bar hoppers will be the first 
    to be traded ?
     
    Mike

    RE: .122 (or whatever)
    
    It's only fair that the followers of (ha-ha) teams get to make
    fun of Les Habs because we derive so much joy when we make fun of
    them!
    
    
    A former-Quebecian
    

    Seeing as we all know what's wrong with the Leafs, maybe we should
    start a new topic for other REAL HOCKEY discussions.
    
    Glenn 8^)

    Heard this on the radio this morining.
    
    Why do Toronto Maple Leafs drink off saucers?
    
    Edmonton and Montreal have all the cups.

    Settle down Mr. Lattuca....the Leafs just don't have the skill to
    drink from anything else.
    
    
                                              

    
    I read the other day that fourth place in the Norris division is
    going to be called a heritage position for the loose-leafs?
    

    Bevan:
    
      Why not change the note title to "What is right with the Leafs".
     This note should be looked at as a waste of company resources.
     Who cares about the Leafs??  We have another couple of years until
    Ballard "passes on".  Until that happens, nothing will be right
    with the Leafs.  Isn't your head sore from banging it??

      The decimated Bruins waltz into Toronto, offer the Laughs the
    game and then tease them into submission and steal the game in OT.
    The Bruins were without 6 regulars last night and still beat the
    Laughs. I wonder what the Laughs' fans think of that.???
    
    Hey Bevan and Bill - Thanks for the $2. :-) :-) 
    
    Dennis

    Actually, Boston had only 17 skaters.  Their top forward is kicked
    out of the game 5 minutes into the first period.  Six of the players
    have been called up from the minors, and one, Rob Cimetta, was called
    up from the Junior A Marlboros.  Four of their five regular defencemen
    are injured.  It just goes to show you that the problem in Toronto
    isn't just lack of talent: it's a lack of desire to win.
        
    Glenn

    Wait...
    
      I liked SCTV....why give them all the Leaf's troubles!
    The best thing they could do is "just go away".
    

    After last night in Calgary, the call is going out to "Break up
    the Leafs"

    Toronto beat Calgary 4-3 in overtime in a well played game.  But
    what does the previous note mean?
    
    Glenn

    It means that the Leafs are showing that they are too powerful for
    the rest of the league and should spread their talent around.
    
    It's the same as when people wanted to break up the strong Edmonton 
    Eskimo CFL teams from a few years back when they had their dynasty. 
    

    The dynasty ends.  Toronto lost 2-1 to Vancouver in overtime.

    The leafs are slowly moving their way up for a play off spot. They
    need that extra play-off money; the flames can afford to loose a
    few anyways.

    Heard on the radio this morning...
    
    
    
    At a custody hearing during a divorce trial, the judge asked the
    little child if she wanted to live with her mother.  The child said
    "No, because she always beats me"
    
    So the judge asked if she wanted to live with her father.  The child
    said " No, because he beats me too."
    
    So the judge then said, "Well, who do you want to live with?"
    
    And the little girl said,
    
    
    "With the Toronto Maple Leafs.  They never beat anybody"
    
    
    
    (with apologies to Bevan during this day of mourning) 

    Here's one that was in the Ottawa Sun the other day...
    
    It seems as if there was this really bright fellow with an IQ of
    more than 200.  He was so bright he didn't have any friends because
    they all felt really stupid when they were with him.  He finally
    found a doctor with a machine that could lower his IQ.
    
    "Doc," he said, "You gotta lower my IQ, maybe to about 130."  The
    doctor agreed.  Once the machine started, the phone rang and the
    doctor forgot all about the machine.  When he came back, the fellow's
    IQ was down to 20.  Before he reversed it to drive the IQ back up,
    the doctor was curious as to what someone with an IQ of 20 would
    say.
    
    "Can you speak?"
    "Guh..." was the reply.  "Guh, guuuuuhhhh..."
    Finally the man formed the words:
    
    "Go, Leafs, go." 

    Why feel sorry for a Leaf fan.  Take Bevan for example.  Today he
    is as proud of the Leafs as he was yesterday.  Look at all the things
    that they have done for the good of hockey!!  They lost, and now
    we can watch the game as it was meant to be.

    
    Since the leafs are a hot item these days, remember hockey season is
    around the corner, BEVAN GRAHAM should be nominated as coach and 
    general manager this year.

    Does anyone have the Vegas odds for who's going to win the 1990 Cup?
    I saw them while I was staying at the Vegas Hilton, but I didn't
    write down any of the more interesting ones.  I only remember 
    Montreal having the number two spot, though that might have changed
    with the lost of Gainey and Robinson.

< Note 25.144 by CADSE::WONG "Le Chinois Fou" >
<<Does anyone have the Vegas odds for who's going to win the 1990 Cup?

	50:1 for the Clayton Beaver Stompers

    Why are the leafs a hotitem these days?
                         
    ALAN 
    (A_LEAFS_FAN_IN_GENEVA)

    RE:.146
    
    Why are the leafs a hotitem these days?
                         
    Possible answers
    
    The temperature rose above 30 degrees in Toronto?
    Is this a trick question?
    The Gardens burned?
    Harold is a little hot under the collar?
    
    Just guessing
    Glenn

    Answer...Bevan is now a Hab's fan!  Now that he has made the move,
    the Leafs are bound to do better.

    OH NO!!!!!! Get him to change and become a Flames fan.

    Do the Leafs have any more #1 picks that they are willing to give away?
    
    pete

    Pete:
    
      Wait till May.  They are bound to get another as a result of their
    finish (or lack of) in the team standings.

    Does anybody think it's time to get this discussion going again?...It's
    been a year!!!
    
    pete

    why? haven't you seen their record recently? They're in last place!!!

    I think they need a stealth coach....

    "Les premiers seront les derniers et les derniers seront les premiers"
    they MUST be highly religious.
    
    Jean
    

    re .154
    
    Or, alternatively, "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the
    earth".
    
    Seriously though, I remember a couble of years ago on CBC saying that
    the Leafs couldn't improve until Harold Ballard popped his clogs. What
    are they waiting for now?
    
    Tony

     An NDP Government in Ottawa. This would make the revenge against Harold 
    complete!
    
    Shirley MacLean for Priminister anyone???
    

    <<Shirley MacLean for Priminister anyone???
    
No, but Audrey McLaughlin ain't a more pleasant thought either.

>      <<< Note 25.157 by KAOM25::RUSHTON "Unscathed by inspired lunacy" >>>
>                         -< NDP = No Defined Policies >-
>
>    <<Shirley MacLean for Priminister anyone???
>    
>No, but Audrey McLaughlin ain't a more pleasant thought either.


	Didn't Ms. McLaughlin proclaim to be Attilla the Hun
	in another life? (or was that a tittalated nun).

	I can never remember....

    The buds doubled their winnings this year, with a come from behind 5-4
    win over the equally useless North Stars.  Intense booing filled the
    Gardens during last night's match, especially when Leeman touched the
    puck.
    
    Glenn

    Intense booing ...., especially for Leeman. WHY
    
    Alan

    re -.1
    
    They are booing because they expect more out of Leeman (50+ goal man
    and all).
    
    I heard Dick Beddoes (reporter who follows the Leafs) on the radio 
    the other night and he says to expect Leeman to be traded soon.  Leeman
    also expects it.  Apparently there is a big rift between Iafrate and
    Leeman...they won't even talk to each other.
    
    Why you may ask??????......
    
    Because Leeman is sleeping with Iafrate's wife (ex-wife?)
    
    pete

    
    
    So Andy's head POPs up over and he says  "Imagine that, Leeman
    sleeping with the leader of Palestine people during the Middle
    East crisis....the nerve of him"
    
    

    Mike's been taken care of. Mike's fingers are wrapped in
    bandages. You never know when kerosene could pop up at 
    your desk, right Mike? Oops, sorry Mike can't answer...yet.
    
    I think Eric Lindros will enjoy playing in New Jersey.
    
    Andy

    
    Now that there is a very good possiblity of a Montreal and Toronto
    series. I though it was time to kindle the Canadiens and Maple Leafs
    flame. I think if this series happens, hockey fever in Canada will be
    at an all time high.
    
    Any Predictions...
    
    Regards,
      Carmelo
    
    
    
                                                                              

    Carmen, Carmen, Carmen....
    
    I would have thought that a wise guy like you would have noticed that
    us true-blue Leaf fans have maintained a low profile over the last few
    months and weeks.  We're not going to get sucked in to say anything 
    dumb (like Montreal, Boston, Los Angeles etc. fans.  Just quiet 
    confidence in the Leafs.
    
    Lockyer
    

Garry,

By replying, you're breaking the silence, and...

Toronto in 7 doesn't inspire complete confidence.

Montreal in 5, common sense prevails...

/Mario

    Hey Mario, there's nothing subtle about you...

    Carmen,
    
    	We're getting a little ahead of ourselves, aren't we. I have
    all the confidence in the world that the Mightly Leafs will prevail
    over LA but LA is a good team. So until Toronto does advance to the
    final, this leafs fan will remain quiet.
    
    THEN LOOK OUT !
    
    Bevan 

    On one hand, it's been so painfully llloooonnnngggg since the Leafs
    won the "big one" that it would almost be a collective national
    relief to see them so it.
    
    On the other hand, being a Habs fan since the days of Beliveau,
    Richard (the Pocket Rocket), Cournoyer & company, I would much
    prefer to see Nos Glorieux win the treasured cup for a record
    Nth time.
    
    To the Leafs, and their patient and loyal fans, I say "Good Luck"
    and I am sure it will be a great series.  But first, get by L.A.
    and put that series away, would ya!?!
    
    HABS IN 5!!

	After the effects of those cheap drugs that I was on finally wore off
	and a Hab loving co-worker of mine reminded me of a few things, I 
	quickly saw the error of my ways and decided to delete that pathetic 
	prediction that I made to replace it with a new and definitely improved
	prediction...


	H   H      A      BBB   SSSS     I  N  N       6      !
	H   H     A A     B  B  S        I  NN N      6       !
	HHHHH    AAAAA    B B    S       I  N NN     6666     !
	H   H   A     A   B  B     S     I  N  N     6   6    
	H   H  A       A  BBB   SSSS     I  N  N      666     !

	
	Of course, should the Habs meet the Kings in the final I say Habs in
	7. :^)

	Ben

	PS. Maybe I should book a holiday for the parade in Montreal right 
	    away. 

	PSS. That little reminder had to do with the Blues. How could I a team
	     that needed 7 games to beat St. Louis possibly beat the mighty
	     Habs???!!! :^)