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Title:DEC Pascal Notes
Notice:See note 1 for kits. Bug reports to CLT::DEC_PASCAL_BUGS
Moderator:TLE::REAGAN
Created:Sat Jan 25 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2675
Total number of notes:13409

2368.0. "DEC Pascal on Windows NT?" by RT95::MCDONALDJ (Wish I were here...) Tue Feb 15 1994 12:24

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2368.1TLE::REAGANDoes 'anal retentive' have a hyphen?Tue Feb 15 1994 12:523
2368.2How about a wag?RT95::MCDONALDJWish I were here...Tue Feb 15 1994 13:096
2368.3TLE::REAGANAll of this chaos makes perfect senseMon Feb 13 1995 11:4017
2368.4Check out Borland...GAAS::BRAUCHERMon Feb 13 1995 13:5417
2368.5TLE::REAGANAll of this chaos makes perfect senseMon Feb 13 1995 15:4910
2368.6One user's opinions...GAAS::BRAUCHERMon Feb 13 1995 17:5038
2368.7Any news?THEBAY::WIEGLEBLook at the dirty water...and swimTue Oct 22 1996 17:5612
2368.8TLE::REAGANAll of this chaos makes perfect senseTue Oct 22 1996 19:098
2368.9AUSS::GARSONDECcharity Program OfficeTue Apr 15 1997 05:206
    DEC Pascal on Windows NT seems to come up every year so I'll put in
    1997's note...
    
    Can I have an update on the status (online or offline)? I have a
    customer asking. I don't know what the customer's reason for asking is
    but I think we are not talking megabucks.
2368.10TLE::REAGANAll of this chaos makes perfect senseTue Apr 15 1997 13:1422
    Here's the current status:  We have a compiler/rtl that runs almost
    all of the test system.  We have a preliminary installation script
    using InstallShield.  We don't have any documentation (User Manual,
    Installation Guide, Help File, etc.)  It isn't hooked up to anything
    like the Developer's Studio, its just a command-line based compiler
    at present.  BTW, this is all Alpha Windows NT, not Intel (just
    incase you might confuse the two).
    
    I've been pushing to turn it into a product.  However, as you note,
    we're not talking megabucks.  The lack of any hard evidence that we'll
    sell any kits leads to the "conclusion" that we won't sell any kits.
    
    If anybody else thinks that they could sell even a few of these, put
    a reply here and perhaps we can start to acculumate enough evidence.
    Keep your fingers crossed.
    
    My argument is that while we won't sell 10,000s of DEC Pascal on NT,
    there are enough customers in OpenVMS environments that are adding
    NT systems (ie, Affinity), that some set of customers with investment
    in DEC Pascal code will want to move some of that code to NT systems.
    
    				-John
2368.11AUSS::GARSONDECcharity Program OfficeWed Apr 16 1997 01:3329
re .10
    
>BTW, this is all Alpha Windows NT, not Intel (just in case you might confuse
>the two).
    
    No risk of confusion (-: but I had ASSuMEd that the customer meant
    Alpha NT. The customer confirms Alpha NT.
    
    The customer also opines that for the use envisaged by *this* customer,
    the current functionality would be adequate (e.g. command-line
    interface, no integration into development environment since that is
    basically what they are using from VMS). [I suspect that some kind of
    integration with a debugger would be needed, despite what the customer
    says or implies. Who would want to go back to the days before source
    code was available in the debugger?! I remember when...]

    The customer doesn't have a specific requirement (e.g. porting code)
    but is just evaluating options to move into Windows NT. Most (all?)
    existing software is written in DEC Pascal and it would be desired to
    use one compatible language across the two operating systems.
    
    Obviously if we (Digital) don't provide DEC Pascal on NT then many
    customers (not specifically this one) will either go to some other
    vendor's Pascal or go to another language (can you spell C?).
    
>However, as you note, we're not talking megabucks.
    
    I meant not megabucks from this one particular customer. We are talking
    about one or two licences.
2368.12TLE::REAGANAll of this chaos makes perfect senseWed Apr 16 1997 02:196
    I didn't mention, but the compiler in its current state does have some
    debug abilities with either windbg or from inside the debugger in VC++.
    You can see the source, examine registers, examine a few basic types (I
    think, I'm not sure...), but not much more at this point.
    
    				-John