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Conference irocz::common_brouters

Title:Digital Brouters Conference
Notice:New common-code brouter family: RouteAbout, DECswitch 900
Moderator:MARVIN::HARTLL
Created:Mon Jul 17 1995
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:929
Total number of notes:3736

787.0. "DECswitch 900EE with DDR V2.0.2 and Access-Control Problem" by NETRIX::"Youda.Kopel@meo.mts.dec.com" (Youda Kopel) Fri Mar 07 1997 01:41

Hi There ,

I really need help on this one......

We have a customer that has DECswitch 900EE with DDR - IP version 2.0.2 .The
file used is ---> decswitch900ee-ip-v2-0-2.bin ( 21st JAN 1997 ), as on 
haggle.lkg.dec.com/ftp/kits/ .

The problem is with setting up ACCESS-CONTROL to restrict WEB PROXY ( 8080)
, Telnet ( 23 ) FTP, SMTP and HTTP .

After configuring some filters ( access-control ) the 900EE  DOES NOT pass any
access to these !!!!

Some of the ACCESS-CONTROL commands looks as follow :

add access-control exclusive 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0 255 512 514
add access-control inclusive 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 6 6 8080 8080
add access-control exclusive 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0 255 23 23
add access-control inclusive 203.0.170.6 255.255.255.255 203.0.171.129
255.255.255.255

When tried the above on DECbrouter 90T2 with ver 10.3.x it DOES WORK. The
commands used were:

access-list 101 permit tcp any host 203.0.171.66 eq domain
access-list 101 permit udp any host 203.0.171.66 eq domain
access-list 101 permit tcp any host 203.0.171.66 eq 443
access-list 101 permit tcp any any eq ftp

Don'y worry about the IP addresses. Different numbers are used for different
test.

Please , Can someone help on this one and tell me if the 900EE access-control
configured should work, or is there something else wrong.

Many Many Thanks in advance.

Youda Kopel ,
NPB Melb/Aust.


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787.1MARVIN::HARTTony Hart, InterNetworking Prod. Eng. GroupFri Mar 07 1997 08:3231
>add access-control exclusive 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0 255 512 514

I suspect this line is the cause of your problems.  You might (reasonably)
expect that this line would only exclude a TCP (or UDP) packet addressed to
ports 512,513 or 514.

In fact what it does is to exclude every packet except a TCP or UDP packet
which is NOT addressed to ports 512,513 or 514.  In other words the only
packets which are not excluded by this filter are TCP and UDP packets to
destination ports other than 512,513 and 514.

Arguably this is a bug, its certainly not what I would expect after reading the
documentation.

I think you probably want something like the following set of controls.

add access-control inclusive 203.0.170.6 255.255.255.255 -1
add access-control inclusive 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 6 6 8080 8080
add access-control exclusive 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 17 17 512 514
add access-control exclusive 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 6 6 512 514
add access-control exclusive 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 6 6 23 23
add access-control inclusive 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 -1

This does...
	Allow node 203.0.170.6 access to anything
	Allow any node access to Web Proxy
	Disallow any node access to UDP ports 512-514
	Disallow any node access to TCP ports 512-514
	Disallow any node access to TELNET
	Allow any thing else

787.2typo in .-1MARVIN::HARTTony Hart, InterNetworking Prod. Eng. GroupMon Mar 10 1997 05:529
There is a typo in the first access control in the previous reply, it should
read ... 

 add access-control inclusive 203.0.170.6 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 -1
                                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

thanks to Chuck for spotting this.

Tony
787.3Customer tried and still does not workNETRIX::"Youda.Kopel@meo.mts.dec.com"Youda KopelMon Mar 17 1997 01:0333
Dear Chuck and Tony ,

Sorry for the long delay. The customer just got back to me on this one. Here
it
is :
Youda,

	I tried the work around that suggested and it still doea not
	work.  I configured filters (as per the suggestion) for RIP,
	DNS and 8080 and denied telnet.  With this configuration,
	I was unable to do any DNS lookups and even using the correct IP
	address I was unable to access the Internet on 8080.  Telnet was
	disabled.

							Robert....


______________________________________________________________________________

       Star Systems Pty. Ltd.                     Robert Cooper
       Brisbane Queensland                        Systems Engineer
       Australia                                  robert.cooper@starsys.com.au

Is there any way to do what Robert is trying to acheive ?????

Hope to hear from you guys......

Many Thanks in advance,

Youda Kopel ,
NPB Melb / Aust.

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787.4More info needed.MARVIN::HARTTony Hart, InterNetworking Prod. Eng. GroupMon Mar 17 1997 07:289
Please post the output of the "IP Config>LIST ALL" command.

Access controls work on the DECswitch so this *may* well be a configuration
problem, without the above information its going to be difficult to help.

One common problem is that people forget about return paths, so although
access from the host to the server is allowed, the controls may prevent
access from the server to the host.

787.5The info you have requestedNETRIX::"Youda.Kopel@meo.mts.dec.com"Youda KopelTue Mar 18 1997 03:3962
Dear Tony ,

Thank you for the help you have been provididng . I have attached the customer
reply to the info you have requested, here it is :
			

IP config>list all
Interface addresses
IP addresses for each interface:
   intf  0                                     IP disabled on this
interface
   intf  1   203.0.170.252    255.255.255.0    Network broadcast,    fill
1    
   intf  2   192.168.1.252    255.255.255.0    Network broadcast,    fill
1    
   intf  3   192.168.0.1      255.255.255.0    Network broadcast,    fill
1    
   intf  4                                     IP disabled on this
interface
   intf  5                                     IP disabled on this
interface
Router-ID: 203.0.170.252

Routing



Protocols
BOOTP forwarding: disabled
Directed broadcasts: enabled
ARP Subnet routing: disabled
RFC925 routing: disabled
OSPF: disabled
Per-packet-multipath: disabled
RIP: enabled
RIP default origination: disabled
  Per-interface address flags:
     intf  0                    IP & RIP are disabled on this interface
     intf  1   203.0.170.252    Send net, subnet and default routes
     intf  2   192.168.1.252    Send no routes
     intf  3   192.168.0.1      Send no routes
     intf  4                    IP & RIP are disabled on this interface
     intf  5                    IP & RIP are disabled on this interface

  Per-interface Triggered Rip values :

Accept RIP updates always for:
[NONE]

EGP: disabled

END.......................


I hope you can help on this one ,

Many Thanks in advance ,

Youda Kopel ,
NPB Melb / Aust.

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787.6MARVIN::HARTTony Hart, InterNetworking Prod. Eng. GroupTue Mar 18 1997 07:208
Actually I need the access controls which I thought was included in the
LIST ALL command but isn't, sorry about that.

Could you post the results of 

	IP Config>LIST ACCESS

Tony