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Conference irocz::common_brouters

Title:Digital Brouters Conference
Notice:New common-code brouter family: RouteAbout, DECswitch 900
Moderator:MARVIN::HARTLL
Created:Mon Jul 17 1995
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:929
Total number of notes:3736

742.0. "ISDN PPP link to DECnis won't come up" by HLNET1::JELINK () Thu Feb 06 1997 09:49

Configuration:

  Routeabout EI V2.0-1                                
						       ----------
  -------                                              |        |
  |	| Prim. wan   ----------------------- W622-3-0 |        | DECnis 600
  |	| ISDN interf ----------------------- W622-3-1 |        |
  -------                                              |        |
	                                               ----------
Primary line works fine but if line fails ISDN is setup to the decnis and the
PPP link refuses to come up. Below is a trace made on the decnis. If i switch 
the interfaces (isdn on 3-0) on the decnis the result is the same. 
I know 3-0 works fine so it also should work on the 3-1  interface.


11:28:33.56|   0|      Rx|lnkstr
11:28:33.56|   0|      Tx|enable
11:28:33.78|   0|      Rx|lnkdwn
11:28:33.78|   0|    down|Old stopped New starting
11:28:42.43|   0|      Rx|lnkstr
11:28:42.43|   0|      Tx|enable
11:28:42.43|   0|      up|Old starting New req_sent
11:28:42.43|  46|      Tx|FRMG configure request 0x3F
11:28:45.33|  50|      Rx|FRMG configure request 0x06
11:28:45.33|   0|BAD_creq|req_sent
11:28:45.33|  48|      Tx|FRMG configure reject 0x06
11:28:45.43|   0| timeout|req_sent
11:28:45.43|  46|      Tx|FRMG configure request 0x40
11:28:48.35|  50|      Rx|FRMG configure request 0x07
11:28:48.35|   0|BAD_creq|req_sent
11:28:48.35|  48|      Tx|FRMG configure reject 0x07

    
Routeabout config:
    
Address assigned name             Network Address  Network Subaddress
---------------------             ---------------  ------------------

sba                               302804369
uto-sba                           0302803793
Config>net 2
ISDN user configuration
ISDN Config>list all

                                   ISDN Configuration

Local Network Address Name    = sba
Local Network Address         = 302804369
Local Network Subaddress      =

Maximum frame size in bytes   = 2048
Outbound call address Timeout =  180  Retries =  10
Switch Variant                = ETSI NET3
DN0 (Directory Number 0)      = 243882007
DN1 (Directory Number 1)      =
TEI                           = Automatic
PS1 detect                    = Enabled
No circuit address accounting information being kept
Circuit Config>list all

Base net:       2
Destination name:    uto-sba
Inbound dst name:    * ANY *
Outbound calls       allowed
Inbound calls        allowed
Idle timer           = 0 (fixed circuit)
SelfTest Delay Timer = 150 ms
Send Line ID:        NO

Circuit Config>
IP config>list all
Interface addresses
IP addresses for each interface:
   intf  0   16.197.13.254    255.255.255.0    Network broadcast,    fill 1
   intf  1   16.254.181.2     255.255.255.0    Network broadcast,    fill 1
   intf  2                                     IP disabled on this interface
   intf  3                                     IP disabled on this interface
Router-ID: 16.197.13.254

Routing



Protocols
BOOTP forwarding: enabled
Max number of BOOTP forwarding hops: 4
Min secs of retry before forwarding: 0
Configured BOOTP servers:    16.198.112.250
Directed broadcasts: enabled
ARP Subnet routing: disabled
RFC925 routing: disabled
OSPF: disabled
Per-packet-multipath: disabled
RIP: enabled
RIP default origination: disabled
  Per-interface address flags:
     intf  0   16.197.13.254    Send net and subnet routes
                                Received RIP packets are ignored.
     intf  1   16.254.181.2     Send net and subnet routes
     intf  2                    IP & RIP are disabled on this interface
     intf  3                    IP & RIP are disabled on this interface

  Per-interface Triggered Rip values :

Accept RIP updates always for:
[NONE]

EGP: disabled

EGP: disab

Config>fe wrs
WAN Restoral user configuration
WRS Config>list all

WAN Restoral is enabled.
Default Stabilization Time:       0 seconds
Default First Stabilization Time: 0 seconds

                                                  Secondary
   Primary Interface       Secondary Interface    Enabled
-----------------------  -----------------------  --------
 1 - WAN PPP              3 - PPP Dial Circuit       Yes
[No Primary-Alternate pairs defined]
WRS Config>
    
T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name
DateLines
742.1trace data file pleaseMARVIN::RIGBYNo such thing as an alpha betaThu Feb 06 1997 12:524
please supply a pointer to a trace data file collected by DTF

(use /record=file.dat on VMS or add the file name to the end of the unix command
line)
742.2pointerHLNET1::JELINKFri Feb 07 1997 08:313
    
    
    hlnet1::mcc:[jelink.public]ra90ei.dtf
742.3enable magic numbers at the DECNIS endMARVIN::RIGBYNo such thing as an alpha betaFri Feb 07 1997 14:107
The DECNIS is refusing to accept the MAGIC NUMBER option in the LCP startup. Set
the Magic Number Loop Count attribute on the DECNIS PPP link to a non-zero value
(say 3).

Magic number negotiation is supposed to have a few goes then give up, perhaps
the sequence takes so long the ISDN link is bounced, this probably wouldn't
matter on a leased line but would be fatal to an ISDN setup.
742.4EDWIN::TACFri Feb 07 1997 18:375
    Or you can disable magic number on the RouteAbout end.
    
    RouteAbout is kind of brain-dead in this regards, it will ask for magic
    number 20 times before it finally gives up!
    
742.5HLNET1::JELINKMon Feb 10 1997 07:41439
    I've tried to disable magic number loop count but this is not possible.
    According to the decnis configurator this is a read only attribute.
    I've also disabled magic number on the Routeabout but the result is
    still no go. 
    
PPP Config>list all

Maximum frame size in bytes = 2048
Encoding: NRZ
Idle State: Flag
Clocking: External
Cable type: Undefined
Internal Clock Speed: 0

Transmit Delay Counter: 0


LCP Parameters
--------------
Config Request Tries:               20   Config Nak Tries:                   10
Terminate Tries:                    10   Retry Timer:                      3000

LCP Options
-----------
Max Receive Unit:                 2048   Magic Number:                       No
Authentication Protocol:          None


PAP Parameters
--------------
Authent Request Tries:              20
Retry Timer:                      3000
Request Timer:                   15000

PAP Ids/Passwords
-----------------
Local ID:                  (None)
Local Password:            (None)

Remote ID:                 (None)
Remote Password:           (None)


CHAP Parameters
--------------
Authent Request Tries:              20
Retry Timer:                      3000
Request Timer:                   15000
Repeat Authentication Timer:         0

CHAP Ids/Passwords
-----------------
Local ID:                  (None)
Local Password:            (None)

Remote ID:                 (None)
Remote Password:           (None)


NCP Parameters
---------------
Config Request Tries:               20   Config Nak Tries:                   10
Terminate Tries:                    10   Retry Timer:                      3000


IPCP Options
------------
IPCP Compression:                 None
IP Address:      Don't Send or Request


CCP Options
-----------
Data Compression disabled
Algorithm: Stac-LZS
Stac: histories 1
Stac: check_mode SEQ
PPP Config>


Trace on decnis:
    


-DTF- Rx             50 of 50   at  10:34:33.25          W622-3-0        1
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure request
      -----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x04                             |  Length     
                   14
      Maximum Receive Unit      2042                             |  Magic Numbe
    r              3461402

-DTF- BAD_creq        0 of 0    at  10:34:33.25          W622-3-0        2
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000606        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      State                     req_sent                         |  

-DTF- Tx             48 of 48   at  10:34:33.25          W622-3-0        3
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00004005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure reject
      ----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x04                             |  Length     
                   10
      Magic Number              3461402                          |  

-DTF- timeout         0 of 0    at  10:34:33.96          W622-3-0        4
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000606        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      State                     req_sent                         |  

-DTF- Tx             46 of 46   at  10:34:33.96          W622-3-0        5
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00004005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure request
      -----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x4B                             |  Length     
                   8
      Maximum Receive Unit      2048                             |  

-DTF- Rx             50 of 50   at  10:34:36.27          W622-3-0        6
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure request
      -----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x05                             |  Length     
                   14
      Maximum Receive Unit      2042                             |  Magic Numbe
    r              3461402
    
    

-DTF- BAD_creq        0 of 0    at  10:34:36.27          W622-3-0        7
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000606        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      State                     req_sent                         |  

-DTF- Tx             48 of 48   at  10:34:36.27          W622-3-0        8
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00004005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure reject
      ----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x05                             |  Length     
                   10
    
      Magic Number              3461402                          |  

-DTF- timeout         0 of 0    at  10:34:36.96          W622-3-0        9
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000606        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      State                     req_sent                         |  

-DTF- Tx             46 of 46   at  10:34:36.96          W622-3-0       10
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00004005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure request
      -----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x4C                             |  Length     
                   8
      Maximum Receive Unit      2048                             |  

-DTF- Rx             50 of 50   at  10:34:39.29          W622-3-0       11
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure request
      -----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x06                             |  Length     
                   14
      Maximum Receive Unit      2042                             |  Magic Numbe
    r              3461402

-DTF- BAD_creq        0 of 0    at  10:34:39.29          W622-3-0       12
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000606        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      State                     req_sent                         |  

-DTF- Tx             48 of 48   at  10:34:39.29          W622-3-0       13
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00004005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure reject
      ----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x06                             |  Length     
                   10
      Magic Number              3461402                          |  

-DTF- timeout         0 of 0    at  10:34:39.96          W622-3-0       14
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000606        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      State                     req_sent                         |  

-DTF- Tx             46 of 46   at  10:34:39.96          W622-3-0       15
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00004005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure request
      -----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x4D                             |  Length     
                   8
      Maximum Receive Unit      2048                             |  

-DTF- Rx             50 of 50   at  10:34:42.30          W622-3-0       16
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure request
      -----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x07                             |  Length     
                   14
      Maximum Receive Unit      2042                             |  Magic Numbe
    r              3461402

-DTF- BAD_creq        0 of 0    at  10:34:42.30          W622-3-0       17
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000606        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      State                     req_sent                         |  

-DTF- Tx             48 of 48   at  10:34:42.30          W622-3-0       18
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00004005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure reject
      ----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x07                             |  Length     
                   10
      Magic Number              3461402                          |  

-DTF- timeout         0 of 0    at  10:34:42.96          W622-3-0       19
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000606        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      State                     req_sent                         |  

-DTF- Tx             46 of 46   at  10:34:42.96          W622-3-0       20
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00004005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure request
      -----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x4E                             |  Length    
                    8
      Maximum Receive Unit      2048                             |  

-DTF- Rx             50 of 50   at  10:34:45.32          W622-3-0       21
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure request
      -----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x08                             |  Length     
                   14
      Maximum Receive Unit      2042                             |  Magic Numbe
    r              3461402

-DTF- BAD_creq        0 of 0    at  10:34:45.32          W622-3-0       22
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000606        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      State                     req_sent                         |  

-DTF- Tx             48 of 48   at  10:34:45.32          W622-3-0       23
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00004005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure reject
      ----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x08                             |  Length     
                   10
      Magic Number              3461402                          |  

-DTF- timeout         0 of 0    at  10:34:45.96          W622-3-0       24
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000606        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      State                     req_sent                         |  

-DTF- Tx             46 of 46   at  10:34:45.96          W622-3-0       25
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00004005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure request
      -----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x4F                             |  Length     
                   8
      Maximum Receive Unit      2048                             |  

-DTF- Rx             50 of 50   at  10:34:48.34          W622-3-0       26
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure request
      -----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x09                             |  Length     
                   14
      Maximum Receive Unit      2042                             |  Magic Numbe
    r              3461402

-DTF- BAD_creq        0 of 0    at  10:34:48.34          W622-3-0       27
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000606        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      State                     req_sent                         |  

-DTF- Tx             48 of 48   at  10:34:48.34          W622-3-0       28
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00004005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure reject
      ----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x09                             |  Length     
                   10
      Magic Number              3461402                          |  

-DTF- timeout         0 of 0    at  10:34:48.96          W622-3-0       29
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000606        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      State                     req_sent                         |  

-DTF- Tx             46 of 46   at  10:34:48.96          W622-3-0       30
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00004005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure request
      -----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x50                             |  Length     
                   8
      Maximum Receive Unit      2048                             |  

-DTF- Rx             50 of 50   at  10:34:51.35          W622-3-0       31
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure request
      -----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x0A                             |  Length     
                   14
      Maximum Receive Unit      2042                             |  Magic Numbe
    r              3461402

-DTF- BAD_creq        0 of 0    at  10:34:51.35          W622-3-0       32
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000606        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      State                     req_sent                         |  

-DTF- Tx             48 of 48   at  10:34:51.35          W622-3-0       33
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00004005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      PRAM descriptor type: FRMG
      --------------------------
                                                                 |  
      LCP packet: configure reject
      ----------------------------
      Invoke ID                 0x0A                             |  Length     
                   10
      Magic Number              3461402                          |  

-DTF- timerror        0 of 0    at  10:34:51.96          W622-3-0       34
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000306        Function: 00000005
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      Old State                     req_sent                     |  New State  
                       stopped

-DTF- Tx              0 of 0    at  10:34:51.96          W622-3-0       35
      Status: 00000001         Context: 00000000        Function: 00000011
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      Function: control
      -----------------

-DTF- Rx              0 of 0    at  10:34:51.98          W622-3-0       36
      Status: 00000030         Context: 00000000        Function: 00000007
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                 |  
      Function: lnkdwn
      ----------------
    
742.6are you using DECNIS V3.1-8 or later?MARVIN::RIGBYNo such thing as an alpha betaMon Feb 10 1997 09:274
You need to have installed V4.0 or fix kit V3.1-8 of the DECNIS (new image and
new VAX/VMS script compiler) to get magic-number support on the DECNIS.

John
742.7EDWIN::TACMon Feb 10 1997 11:309
    Did you restart the RouteAbout after disabling magic number?  I'm
    really surprised that it would send the option after you disabled it --
    that's a bug.
    
    From your trace magic number does appear to be the problem, but
    sometimes MRU will cause problems when connecting to DECnis.  There is
    a release note detailing this -- on an FDDI DECnis, you need to set the
    bridge port and PPP link SDU sizes lower.
    
742.8HLNET1::JELINKTue Feb 11 1997 09:2915
    
    I've restarted the RA but it seems it always sends magic numbers so
    this is a bug. I've tried increasing magic number loop count
    (upgraded the decnis from 3.1-7 to 3.18) but its still no go. This
    decnis is not connected to fddi so sdu size should be no problem.
    Remember that the serial line interface works fine with the same
    settings on the decnis. 
    
    The problem occurs only when i try to use isdn. I thought there would
    only be a switch on datalink level to use ISDN but it seems there is
    more to it. 
    
    I will try to see what happens on version 1.1 on the routeabout. I
    discovered that BOOTP on version 2.0 DOES NOT work if you use numbered
    IP links so version 2.0 is not usable for us. 
742.9HLNET1::JELINKThu Feb 13 1997 11:414
    Problem found !
    It seems the terminal adapter on the decnis side is faulty. Swpped it
    with an other one and it works. Downgraded the Routeabout to 1.1 and
    Bootp-relay also works.
742.10don't like blaming teh TAMARVIN::RIGBYNo such thing as an alpha betaThu Feb 13 1997 13:417
>    Problem found !
>    It seems the terminal adapter on the decnis side is faulty.

I'm suspicious of this, its possible that the TA setups are different and you
are now not seeing the call drop when the magic number negotiation times out.
Would it be possible to compare the two TA settings to see if there is anything
different?
742.11HLNET1::JELINKFri Feb 14 1997 09:4512
    
    There's not really much you can set ont his TA. You just select a
    profile for selecting sync or async and the line speed and that's all.
    If seen strange data link behaviour on this TA before so i really think
    it's a hardware problem.
    
    By the way does anybody know if there is a patch or new image for the
    BOOTP problem on numbered links ?
    
    Regards,
    
    Henk.