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Conference iosg::all-in-1

Title:	ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:	Please spell ALL-IN-1 correctly - all CAPITALS!
Moderator:	IOSG::PYECE

Created:	Fri Jul 01 1994
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2716
Total number of notes:	12169

2614.0. "Lagging chars in WPS-PLUS" by OASS::BURNAMAN_B (And now, live, from Atlanta . . . ) Wed Apr 09 1997 19:36

    Greetings:
    
    One of my more "difficult" customers just started allowing users
    access to her ALL-IN-1 v 3.2 system via modem.  These users are 
    now complaining that when in the WPS-PLUS editor, characters are 
    "lagging behind" what the user has typed.  This does not occur in 
    any other area of ALL-IN-1 - screens paint quickly, etc.
    
    I tried explaining to her that this is normal with this type of
    connection, but she isn't buying it.
    
    Customer is convinced that there are one or more SYSGEN parameters 
    that could be adjusted to overcome this problem.  Are there?
    
    I checked TTY_BUF and TTY_TYPAHDSZ and they are 160 and 2000,
    respective.
    
    Any recommendations?
    
    Thanks in advance,
    Bruce in Atlanta

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
2614.1	No other SYSGENs, just uncommon sense	AIMTEC::ZANIEWSKI_D	Taking bids on Andrew's Alphatraz cell	`Wed Apr 09 1997 22:06`	13
	Make sure that the proper cables are being used for the VT, modem and terminal servers involved. Make sure the terminal server supports full end user functionality. Some terminal servers don't provide XON/XOFF support. Some terminal server ports are designed only for printers. Have them bring the VT into the office and connect it directly to the terminal server and see if the lag goes away or not. And of course, if they are using a terminal emulator, on a Digital PC, an IPMT might be in order 8-))) Dave Zaniewski
2614.2	Screen handler could be better?	SHRMSG::HOWARD	Whoever it takes	`Wed Apr 09 1997 22:59`	6
	WPS-PLUS has always been slower than the rest of ALL-IN-1. It shows up with SET HOST as well, although not as much today as say, 5 years ago. I think the network is just better. I guess you could put a monitor on the network and see what was being sent over the line. Ben
2614.3		IOSG::PYE	Graham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's Apprentice	`Fri Apr 11 1997 01:05`	10
	I think it's something to do with the way that you have to set the terminal line into single packet mode when using an editor, since the host can't echo characters locally like it can when you're just typing at the dollar prompt - E.g. an 'F' might be the second part of GOLD/F so can't be echoed. Did they try any other editors, e.g. TPU or EDT? And how about using an editor directly from DCL, is that any different? Even if Ben's right and WPS-PLUS is worse at this than the other editors, it might take some of the heat off us!!
2614.4		IOSG::MARSHALL		`Fri Apr 11 1997 14:26`	7
	re .3 Yes, I think Ben is right. WPS-PLUS seems to send a lot more 'traffic' to the screen than other editors, so things appear to lag if you're on a busy or slow link. Scott