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Conference iosg::all-in-1

Title:ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Please spell ALL-IN-1 correctly - all CAPITALS!
Moderator:IOSG::PYECE
Created:Fri Jul 01 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2716
Total number of notes:12169

2585.0. "Convert-routines for upgrade 2.3 to 3.2" by FRAIS::EDDF10::BEELE () Mon Mar 24 1997 17:18

    A customer plans an upgrade from ALL-IN-1 2.3 to 3.2 (ALPHA-VMS).
    Are there scripts available which will do a direct convert for
    the datafiles from version 2.3 to 3.2 format ? Normally there a only 
    scripts for converting datafiles to the next higher version 
    (p.e. 2.3 to 2.4, 3.1 to 3.2 ...) 
    
    Regards 
    
         Ingo Beele
      
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2585.1NoIOSG::TYLDESLEYTue Mar 25 1997 11:5215
    Hi Ingo.
    No, there are no such scripts, because this is not a supported upgrade
    (the direct 2.3->3.2). You have to go 2.*->3.{something, can't remember} 
    then V3.2. Obviously, there are many more things changed between V2.* 
    and V3.* than just the data files (shared filing, groups, mail system, 
    directory support, etc.).
    
    But, if you are just interested in the data files, then you would need
    to do the various file converts using the 'old' and 'new' forms e.g. 
    <oa$cnv_convert V23_smtemplate smtemplate. This is just about all the
    conversion scripts in kipostinstall do. Finding the conversion 'old' 
    forms could be tricky though.
    
    cheers,
    DaveT
2585.2Look in kipostinstall.com * 3IOSG::BURTONIOSG - SEI CMM level 3Tue Mar 25 1997 14:1320
    V3.0 supported installations from V2.3, but since then upgrades have
    only been supported from the previous version so you would need to go :
    
    	V2.3 -> V3.0 -> V3.1 -> V3.2
    
    The forms required to convert from V2.3 data files can be obtained from
    the V3.0 kit. They should all have names of the form V23_<formname> and
    are in the manager form library.  Note you also probably need the upgrade
    scripts, which would also be in the V3.0 kit.  
    
    To determine all the conversions and other upgrade operations
    performed, I suggest you look at kipostinstall.com in each V3.0, V3.1 &
    V3.2 kit.  You may be able to cobble together a combined script
    covering all upgrades.
    
    Hope this helps.  Graham may be able to provide more information when
    he returns after Easter.
    
    Martin.              
    
2585.3MAIL2::KMAHERHay amores que son rosa y son espinasFri Mar 28 1997 18:395
    
    	If this is for a customer, I suggest you contact Wendy Ellis.  I
    don't know about 2.3, but she has tools by which she can leap-frog from
    2.4 to 3.2.  She provides this as a consulting service only though, the
    tools are not available to the customer.
2585.4User filesIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-F/J9Wed Apr 02 1997 15:2120
When ALL-IN-1 is upgraded there can also be user data files which need to
be converted.  

Installation and Post Installation procedues convert system files but user
data files have usually been converted when a user runs ALL-IN-1 for the
first time after the upgrade.  If the ALL-IN-1 upgrade is for more than
over version then it is possible that some user data file conversions don't
get performed and problems can result.  Even if you upgrade the system 
through every ALL-IN-1 version it is possible that users never run the 
interim versions and so the data file conversions are not performed.

I don't remember all the user data file conversions which have been made 
between V2.3 and V3.2.  However, I do remember that problems with Spell 
Checker data files occurred when ALL-IN-1 versions have been skipped.  

Conversions of user print style files for V3.2 were made to handle upgrades
from V3.0 and V3.1. 


Richard 
2585.5Just say 'Yes' to the instalations :-)IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeWed Apr 02 1997 17:3610
    Note 641 contains some information about the file conversions performed
    during the various upgrades, but as you'll see, I didn't finish it for
    all versions.
    
    IM(H)O it'll take you longer to extract all the forms and scripts and
    make sure you did the right things than to do all the upgrades, which
    on a suitably fast machine with AWD and all the kits on a local disc
    will only take about six hours altogether.
    
    And you'll be pretty certain that the system will work afterwards....