| T.R | Title | User | Personal
Name | Date | Lines |
|---|
| 420.1 | Fan mail from some flounder | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Tue Dec 10 1996 17:52 | 27 |
| 420.2 | | HYDRA::SCHAFER | Mark Schafer, SPE MRO | Wed Dec 11 1996 17:16 | 8 |
| 420.3 | Third-Party Product? | TLE::ETZEL | Mike | Wed Dec 18 1996 14:26 | 6 |
| 420.4 | | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Wed Dec 18 1996 16:07 | 2 |
| 420.4 | | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu Dec 26 1996 20:19 | 2 |
| 420.5 | | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Fri Dec 27 1996 21:20 | 54 |
| 420.6 | | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Fri Dec 27 1996 21:26 | 21 |
| 420.7 | | HYDRA::SCHAFER | Mark Schafer, SPE MRO | Mon Dec 30 1996 13:34 | 13 |
| 420.8 | | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu Jan 02 1997 13:02 | 5 |
| 420.9 | RE.6 Adobe Acrobat | DONVAN::LEAVER | | Tue Jan 07 1997 16:47 | 10 |
| 420.10 | | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Tue Jan 07 1997 21:53 | 9 |
| 420.11 | `Affinity' mean anything? | FORTY2::KNOWLES | Per ardua ad nauseam | Wed Jan 08 1997 06:58 | 16 |
| 420.12 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Wed Jan 08 1997 12:57 | 6 |
| 420.13 | | IOSG::BURTON | IOSG - SEI CMM level 3 | Thu Jan 09 1997 08:20 | 5 |
| 420.14 | Steve, how much can I put you down for? | HYDRA::SCHAFER | Mark Schafer, SPE MRO | Thu Jan 09 1997 13:16 | 8 |
| 420.15 | Of course customers would have to pay | IOSG::BURTON | IOSG - SEI CMM level 3 | Fri Jan 10 1997 11:08 | 8 |
| 420.16 | | HYDRA::SCHAFER | Mark Schafer, SPE MRO | Fri Jan 10 1997 12:39 | 10 |
| 420.17 | Engineers making business decisions. | IOSG::BURTON | IOSG - SEI CMM level 3 | Mon Jan 13 1997 06:14 | 15 |
| 420.18 | | FORTY2::KNOWLES | Per ardua ad nauseam | Mon Jan 13 1997 08:39 | 20 |
| 420.19 | Customer Mail on "New Directions" | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Jan 13 1997 21:59 | 25 |
| 420.20 | Question on On-Line Documentation | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Fri Jan 31 1997 13:37 | 18 |
| From: ZKONS1::"Mary_Galle@isserv9.idx.com" 30-JAN-1997 16:38:35.93
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj: Question on On-Line Documentation
One of our customers called to say that they had received a note in their
on-line documentation indicating that the next release would not require
Bookreader to read it. Is this correct? When will this be released?
Regards,
Mary Galle
|
| 420.21 | | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Fri Jan 31 1997 16:00 | 15 |
| From: HYLNDR::FUNARO "Genie - DTN:381-2949 - Software Products Libraries (ConDist) Product Manager 31-Jan-1997 0925"
To: ZKONS1::"Mary_Galle@isserv9.idx.com"
CC: DONVAN::R_PLOURDE,DONVAN::LEAVER,DONVAN::PIAZZA,FUNARO
Subj: RE: Question on On-Line Documentation
Your customer misinterpreted the notice. Staring with the next
release other formats besides bookreader will be available and
supported on the On-Line Documentation Library. The transition
of online documentation to other formats will probably be slow
and some may never choose to change.
Regards,
Genie Funaro
Software Products & Online Documentation Libraries Product Manager
|
| 420.22 | Customer query: ODL New Directions | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Tue Feb 04 1997 18:12 | 15 |
| From: ZKONS1::"75730.3042@compuserve.com" 3-FEB-1997 18:51:37.68
To: Info <cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com>
CC:
Subj: ODL New Directions
I have an evaluation copy of eXcursion and need to decide if I must
purchase it. I have eXcursion for the sole purpose of viewing OpenVMS
documentation on my PC. Will the new Bookshelf Navigation Utility (BNU)
refered to in the letter to Online Documentation Library Customers
(AV-R2TBA-TE) still require this type of program. You may respond via
email or telephone.
John Greer
75730.3042@compuserve.com
(209) 847-1721
|
| 420.23 | Response: OLD New Directions (.6) | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Tue Feb 04 1997 18:48 | 44 |
|
To: ZKONS1::"AJohnson@mail.nbme.org"
CC: ZKONS1::"cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com"
Subj: Re: OLD New Directions
Mr. Johnson,
Sorry if this is a repeat -- from my e-mail records it is unclear
whether the following information from Nancy (attached below) was
sent directly to you or not. I apologize if you haven't received
this information prior to this.
The list of supported documentation formats include:
. BOOKREADER
. HYPERHELP
. HTML
. DYNATEXT
Adobe Acrobat is not currently among the supported formats as explained
by Nancy's message below.
If you have any further questions or comments you can send mail to
cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com.
Regards,
Dwight Brown
Software Products & Online Documentation Libraries Tech Support
--------------------------
The Q1CY97 OpenVMS Alpha Online Documentation Library CD will have
the capability of handling formats other than BOOKREADER.
There are, however, no plans in place for Adobe Acrobat as it does not
run on the Digital platforms our consolidations support.
Thank you for your offer in being a beta tester---we will certainly
keep you in mind if the need arises.
Nancy Leaver
Online Documentation Group
|
| 420.24 | Customer query: Internal Query: ODL New Directions [sent 'forward to docs'] | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu Feb 06 1997 13:39 | 15 |
|
From: ZKONS1::"heinz@suonix.suo.dec.com" "06-Feb-1997 1108" 6-FEB-1997 07:59:22.22
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC: heinz@suonix.suo.dec.com
Subj: ODL New Directions
From: (Heinz Kenntner @SUO NSIS SAP Projektzentrum Stuttgart DTN 866-1095)
Could you pls give me a brief overview what is beeing planned i.e.
what is the new BNU, what are it's features.
Thnx and cheers
Heinz 'Catsup' Kenntner
UNIX Ambassador Germany
|
| 420.25 | | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Fri Feb 07 1997 14:43 | 30 |
|
[not from cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com, but interesting just the same...]
Subj: Customer would like all DIGITAL docs in HTML
From: NAME: Paul A. Berglund <pablo@waymark.net@PMDF@INTERNET>
I think Digital SHOULD make a committment to providing ALL OpenVMS
documentation found on the Online Documentation and Layered Software
Documentation in HTML format.
Paul A. Berglund
OpenVMS Cluster Admin
Raytheon E-Systems
BerglundPA@gvl.esys.com
RFC-822-headers:
Received: from mail11.digital.com (mail11.digital.com)
by dasmts.imc.das.dec.com (PMDF V5.0-7 #16470)
id <01IF400N1XK000CSG7@dasmts.imc.das.dec.com> for openvmsdoc@zko.MTS.dec.com;
Thu, 06 Feb 1997 21:49:21 -0500 (EST)
Received: from ns.waymark.net by mail11.digital.com (8.7.5/UNX 1.5/1.0/WV)
id VAA01531; Thu, 06 Feb 1997 21:48:41 -0500 (EST)
Received: from pablo by ns.waymark.net (8.7.5/SMI-SVR4) id UAA20637; Thu,
06 Feb 1997 20:41:10 -0600 (CST)
X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Priority: 3
|
| 420.26 | Customer Query: British English lexicon | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Feb 10 1997 18:53 | 10 |
| From: ZKONS1::"leslie.vandao@vcsi.com" 9-FEB-1997 18:12:40.58
To: "'cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com'" <cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com>
CC:
Subj: British English lexicon
Do you have a British English lexicon on CD-ROM? Does this include pronunciations? What symbol set do the pronunciations use? What is the price tag? Thanks for your help -
Leslie Van Dao - Vocabulary Development
Voice Control Systems - Dallas, Texas
|
| 420.27 | Customer Query: British English lexicon (.27) | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Wed Feb 12 1997 12:16 | 56 |
| From: FRMENG::NELSON "Dana - 381-6089 - Dogs have masters, Cats have staff. 11-Feb-1997 1139" 11-FEB-1997 11:52:41.62
To: ZKONS1::"leslie.vandao@vcsi.com"
CC: GENIE BUD,NELSON,CDROM_DOCS
Subj: Re: British English lexicon
Leslie,
Thank you for your request for information regarding the Software Product
Library and it's contents. Up until early 1995, as part of our OpenVMS
offerings, there were a number of lexicons included for a number of
languages supported by both WPS-PLUS, ALL-IN-1 and DECwrite. These were
retired as of the Q1 releases of the libraries for both OpenVMS VAX and
OpenVMS Alpha.
An excerpt from the SPD (Software Product Description) for the British
lexicon supporting OpenVMS Alpha reads:
"The International Lexicons for OpenVMS[TM] AXP[TM] are wordlists used
for spell checking verification and correction within WPS-PLUS[TM] (in
ALL-IN-1[TM] IOS for OpenVMS AXP) and DECwrite[TM] for OpenVMS AXP.
Users can purchase optional lexicons to provide multilingual spell ver-
ification and correction capability for DECwrite and WPS-PLUS on the
OpenVMS AXP platform. Each lexicon consists of a list of words sim-
ilar to a dictionary, but without the associated meanings. Users se-
lect the words or document to be spellchecked and choose the appro-
priate lexicon purchased."
I'm not sure if this is what you were looking for and nothing is mentioned
regarding pronunciations at all. These lexicons are not supported in the
current version of ALL-IN-1 and it is highly recommended that you contact
the Digital Sales office nearest you for further availability information.
Please feel free to contact me if you have further questions regarding
our Software Product Libraries.
Best Regards,
Dana Nelson
OpenVMS Title Manager
=========================================================================
From: ZKONS1::"leslie.vandao@vcsi.com" 9-FEB-1997 18:12:40.58
To: "'cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com'" <cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com>
CC:
Subj: British English lexicon
Do you have a British English lexicon on CD-ROM? Does this include
pronunciations? What symbol set do the pronunciations use? What is
the price tag? Thanks for your help -
Leslie Van Dao - Vocabulary Development
Voice Control Systems - Dallas, Texas
|
| 420.28 | Uh oh, we've been placed on someone's list - yuk | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Mar 03 1997 16:49 | 23 |
|
From: ZKONS1::"kbr@inspace.net" 28-FEB-1997 02:15:54.78
To: <cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com>
CC:
Subj: A point of interest
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don't mind, help a lone guy who is trying really hard to make it out here
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Unfortunately, so far I don't have a competitor for this product (darn!). I
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Thanks for your time and have a nice day.
Kerry Rogers
|
| 420.29 | another bogus mail to cdrom_docs | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Mar 03 1997 16:50 | 125 |
|
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CC:
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| 420.30 | Customer Feedback: ODL New Directions | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Mar 03 1997 19:32 | 31 |
|
From: ZKONS1::"zeno@gregory1.com" 3-MAR-1997 16:23:37.93
To: "'cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com'" <cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com>
CC:
Subj: ODL New Directions
Digital,
I am extremely dissatisfied with the documentation concerning the recent
change to the bookreader documentation. When I opened my distribution,
there was nothing inside actually indicating a change, it just didn't
work when I mounted the CD-ROM and tried to use it. The only way that I
knew that you actually switched formats was to go back to the December
distribution and look through that documentation, only to find a sheet
saying that it was coming in the next release.
There was nothing giving me any kind of direction as to how to get
started with the new BNU product - I had to dig through the directory
structure of the CD to try and find a file that would give me good
information about how to install the product, and then there was no text
file that I could find, I had to print out a postscript copy of the users
guide.
In the future, if you make chages such as this, please make it obvious
that you have made changes, and please give at least minimal information
on how to get started with the new product.
Sincerely
Kelly McDonald.
|
| 420.31 | Internal Feedback; Incorrect links in OpenVMS web site | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Mar 10 1997 20:08 | 22 |
|
From: ZKONS1::"galia@tavosf.iso.dec.com" 10-MAR-1997 04:12:41.87
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj: A comment for www.openvms.digital.com/openvms/os/swroll.html
Hi,
It seems that in 'Table of contents' of the Software Public Rollout
Reports for OpenVMS, in the last line you ment:
OpenVMS Alpha and VAX: Products Supporting OpenVMS Version 7.0 and
Higher
and not:
OpenVMS Alpha and VAX: Products Supporting OpenMVS Version 7.0 and
===
Higher ...
Galia Reznik,
MCS, Israel.
|
| 420.32 | Internal Feedback: Response mail | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Mar 10 1997 20:10 | 21 |
| From: ZKONS1::"brown@hylndr.enet.dec.com" 10-MAR-1997 16:58:57.27
To: ZKONS1::"galia@tavosf.iso.dec.com"
CC: ZKONS1::"cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com", BROWN@DEC:.zko.zkons1
Subj: Re: A comment for www.openvms.digital.com/openvms/os/swroll.html
We have forwarded your observation onto the OpenVMS group which administers
the web site referenced.
In reviewing the page it isn't clear, but the cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com account
is for information contained within the rollout report itself. The report
is delineated by use of fixed point teletype font. The pointers on the
page, including the one you found the error in, are created and administered
by the OpenVMS group so we can't fix this directly.
We'll check the page in a few days to see if the information has been corrected.
Thank you for finding this.
Dwight Brown
|
| 420.33 | Customer Mail: inappropriate documentation format change | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Mar 17 1997 18:23 | 27 |
| From: ZKONS1::"SEB@LNS62.LNS.CORNELL.EDU" 17-MAR-1997 11:40:08.94
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC: SEB@LNS62.LNS.CORNELL.EDU
Subj: inappropriate documentation format change
Gentle folk,
We just received the March, 1997 edition of the OpenVMS Documentation
library, and discovered that it is unusable at our site.
Introducing yet another proprietary documentation format (BKB)
and utility (ODL) which disenfranchises older versions of the VMS
operating system is *NOT* acceptable.
In contrast, we would have been quite happy if the documentation
were provided in HTML format as is being done for Digital Unix.
Selden
======
Selden E. Ball, Jr.
(VMS and Unix system manager)
Cornell University Voice: +1-607-255-0688
Laboratory of Nuclear Studies FAX: +1-607-255-8062
230A Wilson Synchrotron Lab http://w4.lns.cornell.edu/~seb/
Judd Falls & Dryden Road Internet: SEB@LNS62.LNS.CORNELL.EDU
Ithaca, NY, USA 14853-8001 HEPnet/SPAN: LNS62::SEB = 44284::SEB
|
| 420.34 | Customer Query: ODL New Directions (BNU questions) | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Fri Mar 21 1997 18:45 | 28 |
| From: ZKONS1::"win@gate.fim.fgan.de" 21-MAR-1997 08:28:02.31
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj: ODL New Directions (BNU questions)
Hello,
yesterday i got the next release of DECcampus with the new one Bookshelf
Navigation Utility (BNU). The Online Documentation Library CD-ROM User's
Guide is not enaugh detailed for me and our environment configuration.
Normaly all book- and libraryfiles are stored on our InfoServer. So i have
a lot of questions:
1. Is there a orderable manual for the BNU?
2. Is it possible to setup the BNU for the InfoServer and if yes,
what is the easiest way to do this with small work?
3. How can i add BookReader books or HTML books to BNU library?
My Email address is: win@gate.fim.fgan.de
Post address: FGAN-FIM
R. Wingert
Eisenstockstr. 12
D-76275 Ettlingen
Germany
Thanks in advance and regards R. Wingert
|
| 420.35 | Customer Query: ODL New Directions - questions | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Fri Mar 21 1997 18:46 | 46 |
| From: ZKONS1::"RGROSSHOLZ@TBR.State.TN.US" 20-MAR-1997 14:22:44.82
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj: ODL New Directions - questions
I mounted the March 1997 On-Line Doc CDs. My Bookreader could not access
them. So I began reading the documentation that came with the CDs.
Since then, I have;
1) Printed the 'Online Documentation Library - CD-ROM Users' Guide',
2) Upgraded from DECwindows Motif 1.1 to 1.2-4,
3) Attempted to print the 'OpenVMS Internet Product Suite Version 1.1
Installation guide and Product Notes' (the $ SET DISPLAY example
did not help at all, what are the options) from my VAXstation and
my PC, I finally had to use LYNX to print this document,
4) Attempted to access the same file using Netscape Navigator from
my PC, and
5) Discovered that since my VAXstation has a black and white monitor,
Netscape Navigator will not even work.
If I am reading the documentation correctly, I cannot get to the Online
Documentation files without BNU. The installation of BNU searches for
Netscape Navigator before it will install.
I have a VAXstation 3100/30 with a black and white monitor. VMS version
6.1 and Motif 1.2-4.
I have a Dell pentium with a 17" color display and Netscape Navigator
3.0. Windows 95.
How do I get to the Online Documentaion? Am I misreading the BNU
installation instructions? Is there a way to get to the Online files
from a PC using Netscape Navigator? (I have access to a Windows NT machine
with Microsoft Internet Explorer. Can I get to the files with that
product?)
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
========================================================================
Rollin Grossholz TECnet: TBR::RGROSSHOLZ
VMS System Manager INTERNET: RGROSSHOLZ@TBR.STATE.TN.US
Tennessee Board of Regents Telephone: 615/366-4453
1415 Murfreesboro Rd FAX: 615/366-4464
Nashville, TN 37217 USA
========================================================================
|
| 420.36 | Customer Feedback - Not happy with "ODL New Directions" | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Wed Mar 26 1997 13:05 | 19 |
|
From: ZKONS1::"Stephen.L.Arnold@Arnold.Com" 26-MAR-1997 02:33:48.40
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC: Stephen.L.Arnold@Arnold.Com
Subj: Not happy with "ODL New Directions"
I attend DECUS Symposia 3 times a year and am a member of the ASAP
program. I use DEC Document to produce Bookreader books. Where should
I have learned about this initiative and had the opportunity to provide
input? How will third parties create books for this tool on CD-ROM? On
magnetic disk? Why is it necessary to disable the Bookbrowser PAK? To
hurry along the transition? I'm feeling blindsided again...
Regards,
"Steve" Stephen L. Arnold, Ph.D., President, Arnold Consulting, Inc.
Address 2530 Targhee Street, Madison, Wisconsin 53711-5491 U.S.A.
Telephone +1 608 278 7700 Facsimile +1 608 278 7701
Internet Stephen.L.Arnold@Arnold.Com http://WWW.Arnold.Com
Pager (800) 351 8927
|
| 420.37 | Reply to Customer (I think) | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Wed Mar 26 1997 13:06 | 48 |
|
From: ZKONS1::"odl_cdrom@donvan.zko.dec.com" 26-MAR-1997 08:55:37.65
To: CDROM_DOCS@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj: User Feedback (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
Kelly McDonald
zeno@gregory1.com
Dear Kelly:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
We're sorry that you had difficulty accessing the Online
Documentation Library.
Unfortunately, DIGITAL erred on the cover letter so it
was not included in the box with the ODL.
We are pleased that you were able to print the User
Guide in .PS format. There is also a .TXT format of this
guide available from: [README]ODL_USER_GUIDE.TXT
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is DIGITAL's intent to update and enhance the Online
Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and in the
future.
Sincerely,
Information Integration Department
Digital Equipment Corporation
|
| 420.38 | Reply to Customer (I think) | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Wed Mar 26 1997 13:07 | 63 |
|
From: ZKONS1::"odl_cdrom@donvan.zko.dec.com" 26-MAR-1997 09:46:59.41
To: CDROM_DOCS@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj: User Feedback Response (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
Cornell University - Laboratory of Nuclear Studies
230A Wilson Synchrotron Lab
Judd Falls & Dryden Road
Ithaca, NY 14853-8001
Dear Mr. Ball:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online Docu-
mentation Library.
The Online Documentation Library is unlikely to change
to HTML format within the next few months. The intent
of the Bookshelf Navigation Utility is to assist in that
transition and help move away from proprietary formats.
In the meantime, we will continue to make available the
Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy so that you can continue
to access Bookreader books on the CD, at least for the
next few releases.
To access the new Online Documentation Library CD-ROMs,
you can do the following:
1. Install the Bookshelf Navigation Utility. You can
continue the installation even though BNU will not
be able to find Netscape Navigator on your system.
Keep in mind that the BNU will work fine except when
it encounters an HTML book in the library. Without
Netscape Navigator installed, the BNU will be unable
to open the book. Note, however, that there are cur-
rently few books available exclusively in HTML format
on the ODL.
2. Continue using the Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy. It
isn't apparent from your feedback which platform you
are on (OpenVMS Alpha or OpenVMS VAX).
If you are on OpenVMS VAX, a saveset is provided on
the CD-ROM which you can use to continue to access
the Bookreader books with a Bookreader hierarchy.
This saveset is located in [SETUP]VAXDOCMAR97.SAV and
information on accessing the saveset is in [README]$README.TXT
on Disc 1 of the ODL.
|
| 420.39 | Reply to Customer - Page 2 | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Wed Mar 26 1997 13:08 | 32 |
| From: HYLNDR::CDROM_DOCS 26-MAR-1997 10:00:24.44
To: @[cdrom_docs.dis]mail_watch.dis
CC:
Subj: CDROM_Docs/Forward:
Page 2
If you are on OpenVMS Alpha, the Bookreader book-
shelf hierarchy is being made available through ECO
ALPCDDOCMAR97.
Note that the Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy will not
be able to access any HTML books on the ODL (although
there are a limited number of these today).
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is DIGITAL's intent to update and enhance the Online
Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and in the
future.
Sincerely,
Information Integration Department
Digital Equipment Corporation
|
| 420.40 | Internal Query: Need to verify BNU on Japanese OS environment | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Mar 31 1997 14:52 | 23 |
| From: ZKONS1::"aori@sqmjpn.enet.dec.com" "27-Mar-1997 1512" 27-MAR-1997 01:10:42.49
To: hylndr::morse, "cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com"@jrd.dec.com
CC: sqmjpn::aori
Subj: Need to verify BNU on Japanese OS environment.
Hi,
I have understood recently that Digital UNIX Q2CY97 ODL includes BNU.
Japan needs to verify the tool and the associated documents such as
user's guide or readme are applicable for Japanese environment or not.
Could you let me know, where I can get the tool and the associated
documents online.
This is urgent and very important for Japan.
Your help is highly appreciated.
Best Regards,
Yoshi
|
| 420.41 | Reply: User Feedback Stephen.L.Arnold@Arnold.Com | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Mar 31 1997 14:53 | 66 |
|
From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 27-Mar-1997 1406 -0400" 27-MAR-1997 14:01:28.84
To: US2RMC::"Stephen.L.Arnold@Arnold.Com"
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback Stephen.L.Arnold@Arnold.Com (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
Stephen L. Arnold, Ph.D., President
Arnold Consulting, Inc.
2530 Targhee Street
Madison, Wisconsin 53711-5491
Dear Dr. Arnold:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
Cover letters issued with previous Online Documenta-
tion Librarys have announced the introduction of the
Bookshelf Navigation Utility (BNU).
Some of your questions may be answered by a "Frequently
Asked Questions" document that will be sent out in a
cover letter to all existing Online Documentation Li-
brary subscribers. In addition, this information will be
included in future versions of the Online Documentation
Library User's Guide.
In addition, that guide will be updated in the near fu-
ture to provide additional information about integrating
your existing library with the BNU.
In the mean time, to access the new Online Documentation
Library CD-ROMs, you can do the following:
1. Install the Bookshelf Navigation Utility. You can
continue the installation even though BNU will not
be able to find Netscape Navigator on your system.
Keep in mind that the BNU will work fine except when
it encounters an HTML book in the library. Without
Netscape Navigator installed, the BNU will be unable
to open the book. Note, however, that there are cur-
rently few books available exclusively in HTML format
on the ODL.
2. Continue using the Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy. It was
not clear to us which platform you were on (OpenVMS Alpha
or OpenVMS VAX).
If you are on OpenVMS VAX, a saveset is provided on
the CD-ROM which you can use to continue to access
the Bookreader books with a Bookreader hierarchy.
This saveset is located in [SETUP]VAXDOCMAR97.SAV and
|
| 420.42 | Reply: Page 2/Userfeedback (mailed funny) | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Mar 31 1997 14:53 | 31 |
|
Page 2
information on accessing the saveset is in [README]$README.TXT
on Disc 1 of the ODL.
If you are on OpenVMS Alpha, the Bookreader book-
shelf hierarchy is being made available through ECO
ALPCDDOCMAR97.
Note that the Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy will not
be able to access any HTML books on the ODL (although
there are a limited number of these today).
We welcome any further input and suggestions that you
can provide us.
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is DIGITAL's intent to update and enhance the Online
Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and in the
future.
Sincerely,
Information Integration Department
Digital Equipment Corporation
|
| 420.43 | Internal Query: ODL New Directions | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Mar 31 1997 14:54 | 19 |
|
From: ZKONS1::"miller@pa24.eng.pko.dec.com" 27-MAR-1997 10:43:22.09
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj: ODL New Directions
I must admit this is one of the worse things we have done at Digital. To use
Netscape but NOT put the files in .html format. I can not run netscape on my
VAX, I run it from a pc and an alpha running dunix. Now I can no longer access
the online documentation as:
1. It is NOT in bookreader format
2. I can not access the files from dunix or the pc as nfs serving the files
does no good, as bnu doesn't run on either.
How in the world am I supposed to access the documentation?
tom miller
|
| 420.44 | User Query: BNU Flash | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Mar 31 1997 14:55 | 26 |
|
From: ZKONS1::"Diana.Stephens@Coors.com" 28-MAR-1997 09:59:11.58
To: "'cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com'" <cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com>
CC:
Subj: BNU Flash
I just received the BNU flash message.
It states
"Netscape Navigator V2.02 or higher. Netscape Navigator re-
quires Digital TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS software
(minimum
Version 3.3 or later with corresponding mandatory update) "
But nothing mentions what the UCX 3.3 mandatory update is.
What ECO of UCX v3.3 should we be at to run Netscape?
Thanks!
Diana Stephens
Coors Brewing Company
|
| 420.45 | User Query: ODL New Directions: Duplicate books on ODL sets | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Mar 31 1997 14:55 | 221 |
|
From: ZKONS1::"JWINDSOR@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU" 28-MAR-1997 15:15:07.31
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC: JWINDSOR@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU
Subj: ODL New Directions: Duplicate books on ODL sets
The new BNU doc sets are set up so that any books which are to be found in
different shelf "trees" are duplicated. This is VERY prodigal of disk space
which can be a problem for those of us who don't have enough CD readers and
copy some of the ODL CDs to hard disk. By my addition, the list below adds up
to over 88,800 unnecessary blocks.
Note that this is not a problem with BNU, but with the formatting of the ODL
doc sets. It seems to me that it should be possible to put each book out
only once and point the different bookshelves to it using an explicit path.
Joellen Windsor
University of Arizona
VMS Systems Programmer
*****
Files before duplicate purge: 1248
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$64$DKA100:[SYSMGMT]D341AA19.BKB;1 1254 12-FEB-1997 13:04:54.32
$64$DKA100:[TELNTWRK]D341AA19.BKB;1 1254 12-FEB-1997 15:43:10.04
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$64$DKA100:[SYSMGMT]D341AA18.BKB;1 2962 12-FEB-1997 13:04:21.86
$64$DKA100:[TELNTWRK]D341AA18.BKB;1 2962 12-FEB-1997 15:42:43.39
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$64$DKA100:[SYSMGMT]D341AA17.BKB;1 404 12-FEB-1997 13:04:16.14
$64$DKA100:[TELNTWRK]D341AA17.BKB;1 404 12-FEB-1997 15:42:38.26
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D33HAA26.BKB;1 1063 11-FEB-1997 15:06:32.42
$64$DKA100:[TELNTWRK]D33HAA26.BKB;1 1063 12-FEB-1997 15:39:05.89
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D33HAA25.BKB;1 153 11-FEB-1997 15:06:30.13
$64$DKA100:[TELNTWRK]D33HAA25.BKB;1 153 12-FEB-1997 15:39:03.52
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D33HAA20.BKB;1 1375 11-FEB-1997 15:06:19.81
$64$DKA100:[TELNTWRK]D33HAA20.BKB;1 1375 12-FEB-1997 15:38:39.17
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D33HAA19.BKB;1 226 11-FEB-1997 15:06:16.87
$64$DKA100:[TELNTWRK]D33HAA19.BKB;1 226 12-FEB-1997 15:38:36.39
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$64$DKA100:[SYSMGMT.HSMV21]SSMUSERG.BKB;1 522 20-JAN-1997 14:03:18.46
$64$DKA100:[SYSMGMT.SSMV13A]SSMUSERG.BKB;1 522 20-JAN-1997 14:03:18.46
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$64$DKA100:[SYSMGMT.SLSV28A]MDMSOPSG.BKB;1 3248 14-JAN-1997 10:20:40.45
$64$DKA100:[SYSMGMT.SMFV12]MDMSOPSG.BKB;1 3248 20-JAN-1997 14:05:26.28
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$64$DKA100:[SYSMGMT.SLSV28A]MDMSINST.BKB;1 248 13-JAN-1997 20:50:42.52
$64$DKA100:[SYSMGMT.SMFV12]MDMSINST.BKB;1 248 20-JAN-1997 14:04:46.45
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$64$DKA100:[SYSMGMT.HSMV21]MDMSOPSG.BKB;1 3248 20-JAN-1997 14:05:26.28
$64$DKA100:[SYSMGMT.SLSV28A]MDMSOPSG.BKB;1 3248 14-JAN-1997 10:20:40.45
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D35XAAA6.BKB;1 672 11-FEB-1997 15:08:58.04
$64$DKA100:[SYSMGMT]D35XAAA6.BKB;1 672 12-FEB-1997 13:13:01.75
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D35XAAA4.BKB;1 11976 11-FEB-1997 15:07:32.93
$64$DKA100:[SYSMGMT]D35XAAA4.BKB;1 11976 12-FEB-1997 13:10:52.62
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D35XAA11.BKB;1 360 11-FEB-1997 15:07:27.91
$64$DKA100:[SYSMGMT]D35XAA11.BKB;1 360 12-FEB-1997 13:10:47.60
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AAA9.BKB;1 3259 11-FEB-1997 15:19:56.76
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AAA9.BKB;1 3259 14-FEB-1997 12:56:00.68
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AAA8.BKB;1 2889 11-FEB-1997 15:19:35.28
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AAA8.BKB;1 2889 14-FEB-1997 12:55:38.42
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AAA5.BKB;1 3366 11-FEB-1997 15:19:09.83
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AAA5.BKB;1 3366 14-FEB-1997 12:55:12.82
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA40.BKB;1 1047 11-FEB-1997 15:19:00.94
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA40.BKB;1 1047 14-FEB-1997 12:55:03.47
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA39.BKB;1 1834 11-FEB-1997 15:18:46.77
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA39.BKB;1 1834 14-FEB-1997 12:54:48.34
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA38.BKB;1 106 11-FEB-1997 15:18:44.90
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA38.BKB;1 106 14-FEB-1997 12:54:46.12
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA37.BKB;1 669 11-FEB-1997 15:18:39.00
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA37.BKB;1 669 14-FEB-1997 12:54:39.96
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA36.BKB;1 1321 11-FEB-1997 15:18:28.44
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA36.BKB;1 1321 14-FEB-1997 12:54:29.19
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA35.BKB;1 1479 11-FEB-1997 15:18:17.27
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA35.BKB;1 1479 14-FEB-1997 12:54:16.95
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA34.BKB;1 3372 11-FEB-1997 15:17:51.90
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA34.BKB;1 3372 14-FEB-1997 12:53:51.06
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA33.BKB;1 5023 11-FEB-1997 15:17:20.77
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA33.BKB;1 5023 14-FEB-1997 12:53:13.47
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA32.BKB;1 1957 11-FEB-1997 15:17:06.42
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA32.BKB;1 1957 14-FEB-1997 12:52:57.92
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA31.BKB;1 780 11-FEB-1997 15:17:00.44
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA31.BKB;1 780 14-FEB-1997 12:52:51.09
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA30.BKB;1 1199 11-FEB-1997 15:16:51.61
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA30.BKB;1 1199 14-FEB-1997 12:52:41.01
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA29.BKB;1 1047 11-FEB-1997 15:16:43.21
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA29.BKB;1 1047 14-FEB-1997 12:52:32.21
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA28.BKB;1 827 11-FEB-1997 15:16:36.56
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA28.BKB;1 827 14-FEB-1997 12:52:24.35
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA27.BKB;1 5096 11-FEB-1997 15:16:02.92
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA27.BKB;1 5096 14-FEB-1997 12:51:46.26
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA26.BKB;1 1887 11-FEB-1997 15:15:48.76
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA26.BKB;1 1887 14-FEB-1997 12:51:31.51
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA25.BKB;1 945 11-FEB-1997 15:15:40.77
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA25.BKB;1 945 14-FEB-1997 12:51:23.45
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA24.BKB;1 3201 11-FEB-1997 15:15:18.37
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA24.BKB;1 3201 14-FEB-1997 12:50:59.45
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA23.BKB;1 1955 11-FEB-1997 15:15:05.00
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA23.BKB;1 1955 14-FEB-1997 12:50:44.28
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA22.BKB;1 86 11-FEB-1997 15:15:02.74
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA22.BKB;1 86 14-FEB-1997 12:50:41.89
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA21.BKB;1 6676 11-FEB-1997 15:14:15.60
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA21.BKB;1 6676 14-FEB-1997 12:49:52.14
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA20.BKB;1 6491 11-FEB-1997 15:13:26.63
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA20.BKB;1 6491 14-FEB-1997 12:49:04.06
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA15.BKB;1 5945 11-FEB-1997 15:12:41.69
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA15.BKB;1 5945 14-FEB-1997 12:48:20.58
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
******
Duplicate filespec names in a BNU set:
$90$DKB200:[OFFAPP]D3B1AA14.BKB;1 7893 11-FEB-1997 15:11:40.78
$90$DKB200:[PROGTOOL]D3B1AA14.BKB;1 7893 14-FEB-1997 12:47:22.43
%DIFF-S-SAMEFILE, files are identical
|
| 420.46 | User Feedback - miller@pa24.eng.pko.dec.com | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Wed Apr 02 1997 13:38 | 60 |
|
From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 31-Mar-1997 1127 -0400" 31-MAR-1997 11:22:07.48
To: ZKONS1::"miller@pa24.eng.pko.dec.com"
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback - miller@pa24.eng.pko.dec.com (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
Tom Miller
US2RMC::"miller@pa24.eng.pko.dec.com"
Dear Tom:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
The vast majority of books are still compatible with
Bookreader. To access the new Online Documentation Li-
brary CD-ROMs, you can do the following:
1. Install the Bookshelf Navigation Utility. You can
continue the installation even though BNU will not
be able to find Netscape Navigator on your system.
Keep in mind that the BNU will work fine except when
it encounters an HTML book in the library. Without
Netscape Navigator installed, the BNU will be unable
to open the book. However, there are currently few
books available exclusively in HTML format on the
ODL.
2. Continue using the Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy.
If you are on OpenVMS VAX, a saveset is provided on
the CD-ROM which you can use to continue to access
the Bookreader books with a Bookreader hierarchy.
This saveset is located in [SETUP]VAXDOCMAR97.SAV and
information on accessing the saveset is in [README]$README.TXT
on Disc 1 of the ODL.
If you are on OpenVMS Alpha, the Bookreader book-
shelf hierarchy is being made available through ECO
ALPCDDOCMAR97.
Note that the Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy will not
be able to access any HTML books on the ODL (although
there are a limited number of these today).
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is DIGITAL's intent to update and enhance the Online
|
| 420.47 | User Feedback - miller@pa24.eng.pko.dec.com (Page 2?) | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Wed Apr 02 1997 13:38 | 44 |
| From: HYLNDR::CDROM_DOCS 31-MAR-1997 11:36:00.35
To: @[cdrom_docs.dis]mail_watch.dis
CC:
Subj: CDROM_Docs/Forward:
Page 2
Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and in the
future.
Sincerely,
Information Integration Department
Digital Equipment Corporation
***************************************
From: ZKONS1::"miller@pa24.eng.pko.dec.com" 27-MAR-1997 10:43:22.09
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj: ODL New Directions
I must admit this is one of the worse things we have done at Digital. To use
Netscape but NOT put the files in .html format. I can not run netscape on my
VAX, I run it from a pc and an alpha running dunix. Now I can no longer access
the online documentation as:
1. It is NOT in bookreader format
2. I can not access the files from dunix or the pc as nfs serving the files
does no good, as bnu doesn't run on either.
How in the world am I supposed to access the documentation?
tom miller
*****************************************
|
| 420.48 | User Feedback - zeno@gregory1.com; ODL New Directions | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Wed Apr 02 1997 13:44 | 48 |
|
From: ZKONS1::"odl_cdrom@donvan.zko.dec.com" 26-MAR-1997 08:55:37.65
To: CDROM_DOCS@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj: User Feedback (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
Kelly McDonald
zeno@gregory1.com
Dear Kelly:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
We're sorry that you had difficulty accessing the Online
Documentation Library.
Unfortunately, DIGITAL erred on the cover letter so it
was not included in the box with the ODL.
We are pleased that you were able to print the User
Guide in .PS format. There is also a .TXT format of this
guide available from: [README]ODL_USER_GUIDE.TXT
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is DIGITAL's intent to update and enhance the Online
Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and in the
future.
Sincerely,
Information Integration Department
Digital Equipment Corporation
|
| 420.49 | User Query: harries@spcc.ppl.com; BNU (Broken Navigation Utility) | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Wed Apr 02 1997 13:49 | 36 |
| [Mail forwarded to ODL group: 2-Apr]
[Mail acknowledge to sender : 2-Apr]
From: ZKONS1::"harries@spcc.ppl.com" 31-MAR-1997 18:33:28.62
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj: BNU (Broken Navigation Utility)
We received the march document set and I have installed BNU on a VAXstation 4000
model 60, running 6.2 OpenVMS, and Netscape Navigator Gold, version 3.0b5.
Invoking BNU results as follows:
$ bnu
Error opening bookshelf.
Title: Unknown.
File: LIBRARY.ODL
Reason: no such file or directory
Could not find accessible bookshelf.
File: LIBRARY.ODL
If I force BNU (by selecting File, Switch Library) to present a library, I get
further errors when it invokes Bookreader. We presently find this distribution
unusable.
Dave Harries
PacifiCorp
523-251-5179
harries@spcc.ppl.com
|
| 420.50 | User Query: FAIRFIELD@SLC.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU; March Online Documentation Library, VAX & Alpha: Bookreader issues | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Wed Apr 02 1997 13:49 | 122 |
| [Mail forwarded to ODL group: 2-Apr]
[Mail acknowledge to sender : 2-Apr]
From: ZKONS1::"FAIRFIELD@SLC.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU" 31-MAR-1997 23:01:42.08
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC: FAIRFIELD@SLC.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Subj: March Online Documentation Library, VAX & Alpha: Bookreader issues
Dear People,
Having received the VAX and Alpha ODL CDROMs for March, I have a
number of issues that seem to have no clear resolution. I
understand your desire to have sites migrate to BNU, and I
understand your desire to move to BNU in order to have a multi-
platform documentation interface. Nevertheless, it looks like this
is going to be a potentially difficult move for us.
BACKGROUND:
==========
VMS at the SLAC site comprises three moderate sized VMSclusters
plus dozens of standalone VMS systems. My cluster consists of 33
nodes, both VAX and Alpha; the second largest cluster consists of
about 20 nodes, both VAX and Alpha, and the smallest cluster has
about 12 nodes, all VAX. The standalone systems are probably evenly
split between older VAXen and newer Alphas.
Within my machine room I maintain an Infoserver. The Infoserver
serves the documentation CDROMs to all VMS systems at SLAC,
typically in excess of 80 systems have these CD's mounted. Up to
this point, I have loaded all but the last of the VAXDOC and all but
the last of the AXPDOC CD's (we haven't needed to access the
Japanese and other Asian books) in the Infoserver. Both VAXDOC and
AXPDOC CD's are mounted by all systems, and we have simply been able
to define DECW$BOOK as a search list which includes all four of the
VAXDOC and AXPDOC CD's, plus one supplied by TGV for Multinet, etc.
It is our preliminary plan to continue to use Bookreader to
access the March CD's. Once I've been able to mount these (see
questions below), the various systems will be able to migrate to BNU
at their own pace.
QUESTIONS:
=========
1) I recollect Digital having said, at some point in the past,
that the VAXDOC and AXPDOC documentation would be
consolidated into a single set of CD's. Is this still your
intended direction? If so, when do you expect to have it
fully implemented.
2) The VAXDOC collection has been reduced from 4 to 3 CD's, and
the 3rd of these contains only Japanese books, if I'm not
mistaken. The AXPDOC collection is still 2 CD's, but the
2nd of these now contains more than just the Japanese docs.
Is the VAXDOC collection a _superset_ of the AXPDOC
collection, or are there still books that are _only_ present
on the AXPDOC CD's (DECmigrate is/was an example of the
latter, Fortran 90 is another)?
3) The CD labeled VAXDOCMAR971 contains, in the [SETUP]
directory, the BACKUP saveset VAXDOCMAR97.SAV. I understand
(and have restored the saveset to disk) that this contains
the "bookshelf" files for the March VAXDOC CD's that will
allow Bookreader to be used (until or unless BNU is
installed). I found no such corresponding saveset on
AXPDOCMAR971 CD. Is there a corresponding set of bookshelf
files? If the answer to (2) above is that there _are_ books
on the AXPDOC set that are _not_ on the VAXDOC set, how are
we to access those via Bookreader?
4) It is a requirement for us to be able to access both VAX and
Alpha documentation from either an Alpha or a VAX. Will BNU
support this transparently? It is not clear from the
various ODL documentation since the Alpha version mentions
only AXPDOC, and the VAX version mentions on VAXDOC.
5) The documentation for Multinet (from Cisco, formerly TGV) is
in Bookreader format on a CDROM. Similarly, the
documentation for our NCD X-terminals is in a subdirectory
on disk, again in Bookreader format. The same is true of
various free and some Digital software, for example, DFU
found on the OpenVMS FREEWARE CD. If and when we move to
BNU, _how_ are we to make these additional sets of
Bookreader documentation _visible_ to BNU? With Bookreader,
it was a simple matter of editing LIBRARY.DECW$BOOKSHELF.
Is the same supported for the .ODL files? Is there another
supported method? Can you provide a tool to do the
conversion?
6) While I not have installed and tried BNU yet (I cannot since
I don't have sufficient free CDROM drives to maintain
support for the old CD's for the rest of the site _and_
mount the new CD's testing), I have read the various
documentation you have supplied, and that has appeared
recently on DSNlink. Given that BNU uses its resource file
to locate the mounted documentation CD's, it would _appear_
that upon changing CD's (as happens quarterly) and modifying
the resource file, _every_ instance of a running BNU
application must be stopped, and the user restart it, in
order to access the new CD's. Is this the case? Is
restarting BNU sufficient, or will users have to logout of
their current DECwindows Session in order that the BNU
resource file be read in again fresh?
Note that under Bookreader, when the system logical name
DECW$BOOK was changed, extant Bookreader applications could
(usually) continue without being restarted...
I look forward to reading your response. We would like to get
the March documentation online as soon as possible but must address
these questions first.
Thanks very much, Ken
--
Kenneth H. Fairfield | Internet: Fairfield@Slc.Slac.Stanford.Edu
SLAC, P.O.Box 4349, MS 46 | DECnet: SLC::FAIRFIELD
Stanford, CA 94309 | Voice: 415-926-2924 FAX: 415-926-3515
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
These opinions are mine, not SLAC's, Stanford's, nor the DOE's...
|
| 420.51 | User Query: PRIECKMANN@stthomas.edu -- New BNU Documentation | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Wed Apr 02 1997 16:19 | 41 |
|
[Mail forwarded to ODL group: 2-Apr]
[Mail acknowledge to sender : 2-Apr]
From: ZKONS1::"PRIECKMANN@stthomas.edu" 2-APR-1997 12:00:03.27
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj:
Hello,
New BNU Documentation.
Here is the list of problems I found,
1. You can not search through all Books.
2. Not all documentation from DEC is compatible with BNU format, example:
OVMSDOC071 (VMS 7.1). is still on Bookreader format. We also have other
no-DEC documentation that works only with the bookreader.
3. Alpha documentation did not provide the bookreader bookself save set.
4. We have been using (very successfully I may add) shareware translation
programs
to view bookreader documents on a VT terminal or Web browser They not longer
works with the new format.
5. The documentation does not tell you how to use Netscape browser to access this
documents.
For now I will have to go back the Decembers documentation library.
It would be nice to leave DECW$BOOK directory until ALL libraries are converted.
What it is good about it:
1. Better organized
Summary: Not to good. You have to make sure that all the documentation you are
sending will work with this new format.
Peter Rieckmann
prieckmann@stthomas.edu
|
| 420.52 | User Query: 75713.600@CompuServe.COM - ODL New Directions | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Wed Apr 02 1997 20:35 | 43 |
|
[Another satisfied customer with out new and complete BNU strategy]
[(sorry an inside joke, I told ODL group strategry was incomplete ]
[ in Dec. but... I also wonder if this borders on lawsuits since ]
[ we sold them one service but are delivery something quite diff.)]
[Mail forwarded to ODL group: 2-Apr]
[Mail acknowledge to sender : 2-Apr]
From: ZKONS1::"75713.600@CompuServe.COM" 2-APR-1997 16:16:47.24
To: DIGITAL ONLINE DOC <CDROM_DOCS@ZKO.DEC.COM>
CC:
Subj: ODL New Directions
You guys are making it harder and harder for smaller, poorer customers to use
your products. As it is now, if I want to read documentation, I have to leave
my
office and travel to another building where the Alpha and its CD-ROM drive are
located so that I can load the appropriate CD. The only convenient way I have
to
read the documentation is with the VTB program that I downloaded from a DECUS
library. I don't have, and can't afford to get DECwindow Motif or an XWINDOWS
terminal, I don't have a PC network, I don't have an internet connection on the
Alpha,
and I have no prospects for getting netscape for the alpha (I am running VMS,
and
am not in a position to change operating system.)
I am getting more and more frustrated at the way you introduce "improvements"
which only make my life more difficult. I am sure I am not the only customer
in this
position. If you are going to make documentation that can only be read using
layered products, you should provide those layered products to the subscribers
to
your documentation service.
Sandy Rosenberg,
Data Processing Coordinator
Town of Watertown
424 Main St
Watertown CT 06795
(860) 945-5263
|
| 420.53 | Internal Query: saunders@lioth.lkg.dec.com - Location of DECC RTL Ref Differs from Shelf | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu Apr 03 1997 20:14 | 17 |
| [Mail forwarded to ODL group: 3-Apr]
[Mail acknowledge to sender : 3-Apr]
From: ZKONS1::"saunders@lioth.lkg.dec.com" 3-APR-1997 10:53:23.08
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj: Location of DECC RTL Ref Differs from Shelf
The DECC Run-Time Library Reference Manual is located
in %VAXDOCMAR971/progtool/deccxx/d37aaaa7.bkb, not
%VAXDOCMAR971/progtool/d37aaaa7.bkb as indicated in
%VAXDOCMAR971/progtool/d37aza13.odl.
Thanks,
John Saunders
DECdns Engineering
|
| 420.54 | User Query: macdonald@movies.enet.dec.com - ODL New Directions | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu Apr 03 1997 20:17 | 25 |
| [Mail forwarded to ODL group: 3-Apr]
[Mail acknowledge to sender : 3-Apr]
From: ZKONS1::"macdonald@movies.enet.dec.com" "3-Apr-1997 1617" 3-APR-1997 09:22:06.20
To: "cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com"@vbormc.vbo.dec.com
CC:
Subj: ODL New Directions
Hi,
I have just put the March 1997 documentation cds up on our system and followed
the instructions on AV-R5B5A-TE regarding installing the bookreader hierarchy
from saveset.
There seems to be a gap in these instructions round what should be entered into
the MASTER_LIBRARY.DECW$BOOKSHELF file so that the shelf can be seen. I've tried
various options but because there is no *.decw$bookshelf file I can't see these
books.
Can you advise me on what I need to do to view these books up until I get around
to installing BNU?
Thanks, Sylvia Macdonald
(Systems Manager, EDO)
|
| 420.55 | Reply to: harries@spcc.ppl.com - feedback | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu Apr 03 1997 20:18 | 66 |
|
From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 03-Apr-1997 1118 -0400" 3-APR-1997 11:13:10.97
To: US2RMC::"harries@spcc.ppl.com"
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback - Harries@spcc.ppl.com (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
Dave Harries
PacifiCorp
523-251-5179
harries@spcc.ppl.com
Dear Mr. Harries:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
The error that you get when invoking BNU on your VAXsta-
tion suggests an incomplete setup. We suggest removing
the BNU and running the setup again. To do this, follow
these steps:
$ PRODUCT REMOVE BNU
$ DELETE DECW$SYSTEM_DEFAULTS:BNU.DAT;*,LIBRARY.ODL;*
$ @DISK$VAXDOCMAR971:[SETUP]SETUP
Upon completion, you should see the following lines at
the end of the file, SYS$COMMON:[DECW$DEFAULTS.USER]BNU.DAT;:
BnuLibrary.library: SYS$COMMON:[DECW$DEFAULTS.USER]LIBRARY.ODL
BnuLibrary.htmlViewer: SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]NETSCAPE-
EXPORT.EXE
BnuLibrary.VAXDOCMAR971: DISK$VAXDOCMAR971
BnuLibrary.VAXDOCMAR972: DISK$VAXDOCMAR972
BnuLibrary.VAXDOCMAR973: DISK$VAXDOCMAR973
Also upon completion, SYS$COMMON:[DECW$DEFAULTS.USER]LIBRARY.ODL
should include the following line:
shelf %VAXDOCMAR971/000000/contents.odl OpenVMS VAX Online Documentation Library (Q1CY97)
You mention that if you force BNU (by selecting File,
Switch Library) to present a library, you get further
errors when it invokes Bookreader. What errors do you
get? Do you get these errors when invoking Bookreader by
itself? Please provide us with more information if you
are able.
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is DIGITAL's intent to update and enhance the Online
Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and in the
future.
Sincerely,
Shared Engineering Services
Information Integration Team
Digital Equipment Corporation
|
| 420.56 | Reply to: sqmjpn::aori - feedback | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu Apr 03 1997 20:19 | 49 |
|
From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 03-Apr-1997 1432 -0400" 3-APR-1997 14:28:25.73
To: SQMJPN::AORI
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback Response - sqmjpn::aori (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
Yoshi Aori
DEC Japan
"aori@sqmjpn.enet.dec.com"
Dear Yoshi:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
We hope to have an Internal Kit for you by this month's
end. It may not be exactly what will be shipped for
DIGITAL UNIX on the next release, but you will be able
to test the functionality and provide feedback to us.
The Bookshelf Navigation Utility did not ship on the
April 1997 CD-ROM. The disc is set up for it, but it was
held from the April shipment.
We will supply the sources to the ODL's User's Guide for
you, they are in .SDML format (VAX DOCUMENT).
Sincerely,
Shared Engineering Services
Information Integration Team
Digital Equipment Corporation
|
| 420.57 | Reply to: win@gate.fim.fgan.de - feedback | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu Apr 03 1997 20:19 | 67 |
|
From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 03-Apr-1997 1520 -0400" 3-APR-1997 15:14:41.77
To: ZKONS1::"win@gate.fim.fgan.de"
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback Response "win@gate.fim.fgan.de" (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
R. Wingert
Eisenstockstr. 12
D-76275 Ettlingen
Germany
Dear R. Wingert:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
There is no orderable manual for the Bookshelf Naviga-
tion Utility. The Online Documentation Library User's
Guide contains all the information on installing and
using the BNU. This guide will continue to be updated
with more information in the future.
Yes, the BNU can be set up to work with an InfoServer.
Simply mount the InfoServer CD-ROM as you normally
would. InfoServer devices appear as local devices on
the OpenVMS system so that it becomes transparent to
the BNU that it is reading from the InfoServer.
The next release of the ODL will have an updated ODL
User's Guide which will include information on extending
the library to add your own Bookreader and HTML books.
The ODL bookshelves used by the BNU are similar to
Bookreader bookshelves. Differences include:
o A title entry only has two fields-the keyword "title"
and the text of the title.
Book and Shelf entries have three fields-a keyword
that indicates the type of entry (e.g. SHELF, BOOK,
HTML), a pathname (file specification), and the text
of the title.
o Fields in ODL bookshelves are separated by white
space (i.e. blanks and tabs) instead of the backslash
('\') character used by Bookreader. However, BNU will
recognize backslash characters as field separators.
o ODL pathnames use ISO-9660 style syntax. Pathname
components are separated with slash ('/') characters.
OpenVMS directory syntax is not recognized and will
cause errors. The pathnames are translated to OpenVMS
syntax internally.
|
| 420.58 | Reply to: win@gate.fim.fgan.de - feedback/pg 2 | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu Apr 03 1997 20:19 | 33 |
| From: HYLNDR::CDROM_DOCS 3-APR-1997 15:29:40.64
To: @[cdrom_docs.dis]mail_watch.dis
CC:
Subj: CDROM_Docs/Forward:
Page 2
o Pathnames that begin with '/' are treated as abso-
lute. The first component is the device name. If
a pathname begins with '%label', BNU looks up the
mount point for that label in its resource file and
substitutes that device for the %label field.
o BNU does not apply any default file extensions. You
must include the extension in the pathname.
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is DIGITAL's intent to update and enhance the Online
Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and in the
future.
Sincerely,
Shared Engineering Services
Information Integration Team
Digital Equipment Corporation
|
| 420.59 | Reply to: win@gate.fim.fgan.de - feedback | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu Apr 03 1997 20:20 | 66 |
| From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 03-Apr-1997 1522 -0400" 3-APR-1997 15:16:03.63
To: ZKONS1::"win@gate.fim.fgan.de"
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback Response "win@gate.fim.fgan.de" (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
R. Wingert
Eisenstockstr. 12
D-76275 Ettlingen
Germany
Dear R. Wingert:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
There is no orderable manual for the Bookshelf Naviga-
tion Utility. The Online Documentation Library User's
Guide contains all the information on installing and
using the BNU. This guide will continue to be updated
with more information in the future.
Yes, the BNU can be set up to work with an InfoServer.
Simply mount the InfoServer CD-ROM as you normally
would. InfoServer devices appear as local devices on
the OpenVMS system so that it becomes transparent to
the BNU that it is reading from the InfoServer.
The next release of the ODL will have an updated ODL
User's Guide which will include information on extending
the library to add your own Bookreader and HTML books.
The ODL bookshelves used by the BNU are similar to
Bookreader bookshelves. Differences include:
o A title entry only has two fields-the keyword "title"
and the text of the title.
Book and Shelf entries have three fields-a keyword
that indicates the type of entry (e.g. SHELF, BOOK,
HTML), a pathname (file specification), and the text
of the title.
o Fields in ODL bookshelves are separated by white
space (i.e. blanks and tabs) instead of the backslash
('\') character used by Bookreader. However, BNU will
recognize backslash characters as field separators.
o ODL pathnames use ISO-9660 style syntax. Pathname
components are separated with slash ('/') characters.
OpenVMS directory syntax is not recognized and will
cause errors. The pathnames are translated to OpenVMS
syntax internally.
|
| 420.60 | Reply to: win@gate.fim.fgan.de - feedback/pg2 | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu Apr 03 1997 20:20 | 34 |
| From: HYLNDR::CDROM_DOCS 3-APR-1997 15:32:11.14
To: @[cdrom_docs.dis]mail_watch.dis
CC:
Subj: CDROM_Docs/Forward:
Page 2
o Pathnames that begin with '/' are treated as abso-
lute. The first component is the device name. If
a pathname begins with '%label', BNU looks up the
mount point for that label in its resource file and
substitutes that device for the %label field.
o BNU does not apply any default file extensions. You
must include the extension in the pathname.
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is DIGITAL's intent to update and enhance the Online
Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and in the
future.
Sincerely,
Shared Engineering Services
Information Integration Team
Digital Equipment Corporation
|
| 420.61 | Reply to: 75713.600@CompuServe.COM - Feedback | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu Apr 03 1997 20:30 | 51 |
| From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 03-Apr-1997 1600 -0400" 3-APR-1997 15:54:45.35
To: ZKONS1::"75713.600@CompuServe.COM"
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback Response - 75713.600@CompuServe.COM (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
Sandy Rosenberg - Data Processing Coordinator
Town of Watertown
424 Main Street
Watertown, CT 06795
Dear Sandy:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
We're sorry that the new changes have not worked to your
advantage. The Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy will still
provide access to those books in Bookreader format. This
hierarchy was not made available on CD-ROM in the last
release, but, due to customer feedback we will include
it on the next release.
Although we encourage you to install the BNU, we are
also making available a Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy
for the OpenVMS Alpha Online Documentation Library. This
hierarchy is currently available in a saveset provided
through thje Engineering Change Order (ECO) ALPCDDOC-
MAR97 which is available from:
o DIGITAL Electronic Service Delivery Tools, such as:
DSNlink,
Web,
Information and Support Service (WIS) and,
DIGITAL Dial-In Access (DIA))
If you need further information, please contact your
normal DIGITAL support channel.
|
| 420.62 | Reply to: 75713.600@CompuServe.COM - Feedback/pg2 | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu Apr 03 1997 20:31 | 26 |
| From: HYLNDR::CDROM_DOCS 3-APR-1997 16:01:22.84
To: @[cdrom_docs.dis]mail_watch.dis
CC:
Subj: CDROM_Docs/Forward:
Page 2
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is DIGITAL's intent to update and enhance the Online
Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and in the
future.
Sincerely,
Shared Engineering Services
Information Integration Team
Digital Equipment Corporation
|
| 420.63 | User Query: win@gate.fim.fgan.de - ODL New Directions (<more>BNU questions) | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Fri Apr 04 1997 13:10 | 26 |
| [Mail forwarded to ODL group: 4-Apr]
[Mail acknowledge to sender : 4-Apr]
From: ZKONS1::"win@gate.fim.fgan.de" 4-APR-1997 01:17:54.05
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj: RE: ODL New Directions (BNU questions)
Hello,
many thanks for your short description of the new BNU. Here some more
questions:
1. We have stored all books, shelf and librarian on a disk on
our InfoServer. If i understand right, i have to convert all
library- and shelffiles to be BNU compatible, or not?
2. If a pathname do not start with a '/' or '%', this will be
interpreted as relative to the currrent position?
3. Is it possible to add WWW pathes like the following:
http://www/index.html or are only the normal ISO-9660 filenames
allowed (/dev/directory/.../filename.extension)? If the latter
is right, is there any other way to specify WWW pathes?
Ince more many thanks for your helping. Thanks in advance and regards R. Wingert
|
| 420.64 | Reply to: 75713.600@CompuServe.COM - Feedback | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Fri Apr 04 1997 13:27 | 52 |
|
From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 04-Apr-1997 0925 -0400" 4-APR-1997 09:20:51.69
To: ZKONS1::"75713.600@CompuServe.COM"
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback Response - "75713.600@CompuServe.COM" (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
Sandy Rosenberg - Data Processing Coordinator
Town of Watertown
424 Main Street
Watertown, CT 06795
Dear Sandy:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
We're sorry that the new changes have not worked to your
advantage. The Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy will still
provide access to those books in Bookreader format. This
hierarchy was not made available on CD-ROM in the last
release, but, due to customer feedback we will include
it on the next release.
Although we encourage you to install the BNU, we are
also making available a Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy
for the OpenVMS Alpha Online Documentation Library. This
hierarchy is currently available in a saveset provided
through thje Engineering Change Order (ECO) ALPCDDOC-
MAR97 which is available from:
o DIGITAL Electronic Service Delivery Tools, such as:
DSNlink,
Web,
Information and Support Service (WIS) and,
DIGITAL Dial-In Access (DIA))
If you need further information, please contact your
normal DIGITAL support channel.
|
| 420.65 | Reply to: 75713.600@CompuServe.COM - Feedback/pg2 | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Fri Apr 04 1997 13:27 | 26 |
| From: HYLNDR::CDROM_DOCS 4-APR-1997 09:21:23.13
To: @[cdrom_docs.dis]mail_watch.dis
CC:
Subj: CDROM_Docs/Forward:
Page 2
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is DIGITAL's intent to update and enhance the Online
Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and in the
future.
Sincerely,
Shared Engineering Services
Information Integration Team
Digital Equipment Corporation
|
| 420.66 | Reply to: saunders@lioth.lkg.dec.com - Feedback | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Fri Apr 04 1997 15:13 | 44 |
| From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 04-Apr-1997 1105 -0400" 4-APR-1997 10:59:42.08
To: ZKONS1::"saunders@lioth.lkg.dec.com"
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback - "saunders@lioth.lkg.dec.com" (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
John Saunders
DECdns Engineering
"saunders@lioth.lkg.dec.com"
Dear John:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
We have informed the Consolidation and Engineering folks
of the DECC RTL shelf differences and it will be cor-
rected.
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is DIGITAL's intent to update and enhance the Online
Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and in the
future.
Sincerely,
Shared Engineering Services
Information Integration Team
Digital Equipment Corporation
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| 420.67 | Reply to: prieckmann@stthomas.edu - Feedback | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Fri Apr 04 1997 15:14 | 64 |
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From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 04-Apr-1997 1106 -0400" 4-APR-1997 11:01:31.70
To: US2RMC::"prieckmann@stthomas.edu"
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback - "prieckmann@stthomas.edu" (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
Peter Rieckmann
prieckmann@stthomas.edu
Dear Mr. Rieckmann:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
Some of your questions may be answered by a "Frequently
Asked Questions" document that will be sent out in a
cover letter to all existing Online Documentation Li-
brary subscribers. This information will also be in-
cluded in future versions of the Online Documentation
Library User's Guide.
In addition, that guide will be updated in the near fu-
ture to provide additional information about integrating
your existing library with the BNU.
With the next release of the ODL, the OpenVMS documenta-
tion set will be BNU-compatible and will be included in
the CD-ROM consolidation.
The OpenVMS Alpha Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy is
being made available through Engineering Change Order
(ECO) ALPCDDOCMAR97.
Your problems of using shareware translation programs
to view bookreader documents on a VT terminal or WEB
browser should be alleviated through the Bookreader hi-
erarchy for Bookreader books. HTML documents are already
accessible by VT; if you have a Web server, you can copy
the HTML documents onto your Web server and access them
that way.
If you are experiencing problems with your Netscape
browser you should access Netscape 'help.' There are
different icons for books in the ODL; only when an HTML
icon appears will Netscape be launched to view those
books.
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is DIGITAL's intent to update and enhance the Online
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| 420.68 | Reply to: RGROSSHOLZ@TBR.State.TN.US - feedback | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Apr 07 1997 19:32 | 51 |
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From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 07-Apr-1997 1457 -0400" 7-APR-1997 14:57:59.95
To: US2RMC::"RGROSSHOLZ@TBR.State.TN.US"
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback - US2RMC::"RGROSSHOLZ@TBR.State.TN.US" (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
Tennessee Board of Regents
Rollin Grossholz - VMS System Manager
1415 Murfreesboro Rd
Nashville, TN 37217
Dear Rollin:
The message below indicates that OpenVMS is not regis-
tered in the POLYCENTER Software Installation database.
%PCSI-W-SFTREFWRN, referenced product DEC VAXVMS VMS not
found for product DEC VAXVMS BNU V1.0
The most likely explanation is that you are running
OpenVMS VAX Version 6.1 and the POLYCENTER Software
Installation utility wasn't used to register OpenVMS
when you installed the OpenVMS VAX Version 6.1 operat-
ing system on your VAX computer. To register OpenVMS,
enter the following command, and then restart the BNU
installation.
$ PRODUCT REGISTER PRODUCT VMS /SOURCE=SYS$UPDATE
Hopefully this will allow you to install the BNU and run
it without further problems.
Sincerely,
Shared Engineering Services
Information Integration Team
Digital Equipment Corporation
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| 420.69 | Reply to: RGROSSHOLZ@TBR.State.TN.US - feedback/pg2 | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Apr 07 1997 19:32 | 92 |
| From: HYLNDR::CDROM_DOCS 7-APR-1997 15:05:14.66
To: @[cdrom_docs.dis]mail_watch.dis
CC:
Subj: CDROM_Docs/Forward:
From: US2RMC::"RGROSSHOLZ@TBR.State.TN.US" "System Manager" 26-MAR-1997
11:01:
37.77
To: donvan::odl_cdrom
CC:
Subj: Re: User Feedback (CDROM_DOCS)
Thank you for getting back to me. I hate to keep bothering you, but when
I started to install BNU and received a couple of 'Termination recommended'
messages. I aborted the procedure since they were not referenced in the
installation documentation. I have included the log below my signature
box. Any help would be apprciated.
========================================================================
Rollin Grossholz TECnet: TBR::RGROSSHOLZ
VMS System Manager INTERNET: RGROSSHOLZ@TBR.STATE.TN.US
Tennessee Board of Regents Telephone: 615/366-4453
1415 Murfreesboro Rd FAX: 615/366-4464
Nashville, TN 37217 USA
========================================================================
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Online Documentation Library Setup
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Checking for the Bookshelf Navigation Utility (BNU).
BNU not found.
Invoking the BNU setup...
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bookshelf Navigation Utility (BNU) Setup
------------------------------------------------------------------------
BNU requires Netscape Navigator for viewing HTML documents.
looking for Netscape Navigator ...
looking for Netscape Navigator ...
Do you have Netscape Navigator installed? [NO]
Netscape Navigator may be installed from the OpenVMS
Internet Product Suite. You must rerun this setup
procedure after installing Netscape Navigator.
Terminating is strongly recommended.
Do you want to terminate? [YES] no
Installing Bookshelf Navigation Utility ...
%PCSI-W-SFTREFWRN, referenced product DEC VAXVMS VMS not found for product
DEC VAXVMS BNU V1.0
Terminating is strongly recommended. Do you want to terminate? [YES] no
The following product has been selected:
DEC VAXVMS BNU V1.0
Do you want to continue? [YES]
*** DEC VAXVMS BNU V1.0: Bookshelf Navigation Utility for OpenVMS
) Digital Equipment Corporation 1997. All rights reserved.
%PCSIUI-I-DONEASK, execution phase starting
The following product will be installed:
DEC VAXVMS BNU V1.0
%PCSI-E-PARUDF, the file [SYSLIB]DCLTABLES.EXE has not been provided by a
previous Install or Register operation - module update skipped
Terminating is strongly recommended. Do you want to terminate? [YES]
Portion Done: 0%
%PCSI-E-S_OPCAN, operation cancelled by request
%PCSIUI-E-ABORT, fatal error encountered - operation terminated
continuing Online Documentation Library Setup...
Configuring: "OpenVMS VAX Online Documentation Library (Q1CY97)"
This library consists of 3 volumes. You will be prompted for the device
where each volume will be mounted. You may use logical device names.
Where will volume 1 [VAXDOCMAR971] be mounted? [DISK$VAXDOCMAR971] :
Interrupt
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| 420.70 | User Request: robert_kaplow@hccompare.com - bad openvms web page | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Apr 07 1997 19:33 | 9 |
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From: ZKONS1::"robert_kaplow@hccompare.com" 7-APR-1997 14:55:00.00
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj: Minor typo on your web page
Check http://www.openvms.digital.com/openvms/os/swroll.html
One reference is to OpenMVS :-)
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| 420.71 | Reply to: robert_kaplow@hccompare.com - will be fixed | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Apr 07 1997 19:39 | 41 |
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[Note: the OpenVMS web page has links to the software ops reports. The
[ links to the reports calls OpenVMS "OpenMVS". Clicking on these
links brings up the software ops public rollout report. To confuse
matters further the contact listed for the web pages is
cdrom_docs -- without clarification that this account is for the
reports linked to rather than the links page. As a result we've
gotten mail about the bad web stuff. We requested the OpenVMS
group fix this last quarter and it was.. apparently though this
page is regenerated automatically each time we issue a report
and the automatic tool is broken.]
From: ZKONS1::"cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com"
To: ZKONS1::"robert_kaplow@hccompare.com"
Subj: Minor typo on your web page
Thank you for your observation.
Unfortunately, this isn't our web page. Although the reports are
ours, the page pointing them is owned by the OpenVMS product group.
It is the pointers that have "OpenMVS" rather than "OpenVMS". Therefore
I regret we cannot directly fix the problem.
We have forwared your observation to the appropriate group and they have
been good about fixing problems (this happened last quarter too -- I guess
they have an automated procedure to generate this page of links?). We'll
monitor the page until its fixed.
To verify that its the same item I'm currently looking at, its the line
" . Sofware Products Supporting OpenMVS Version 7.0 or Higher" ?
^^^
Do you observe the problem in other items or places?
Again, thank you.
Dwight Brown
CDROM_DOCS Postmaster
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| 420.72 | Reply to: FAIRFIELD@SLC.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU - Feedback | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Tue Apr 08 1997 18:07 | 62 |
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From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 08-Apr-1997 0849 -0400" 8-APR-1997 08:49:34.86
To: ZKONS1::"FAIRFIELD@SLC.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU"
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback Response - "FAIRFIELD@SLC.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU" (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
Kenneth H. Fairfield
SLAC, P.O. Box 4349, MS 46
Stanford, CA 94309
SLC::FAIRFIELD
Dear Mr. Fairfield:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
Some of your questions may be answered by a "Frequently
Asked Questions" document that will be sent out in a
cover letter to all existing Online Documentation Li-
brary subscribers. This information will be included
in future versions of the Online Documentation Library
User's Guide.
That guide will be updated in the near future to provide
additional information about integrating your existing
library with the BNU.
The ODL bookshelves used by the BNU are similar to
Bookreader bookshelves. Differences include:
o A title entry only has two fields: the keyword "title"
and the text of the title.
Book and Shelf entries have three fields: a keyword
that indicates the type of entry (e.g. SHELF, BOOK,
HTML), a pathname (file specification), and the text
of the title.
o Fields in ODL bookshelves are separated by white
space (i.e. blanks and tabs) instead of the backslash
('\') character used by Bookreader. However, BNU will
recognize backslash characters as field separators.
o ODL pathnames use ISO-9660 style syntax. Pathname
components are separated with slash ('/') characters.
OpenVMS directory syntax is not recognized and will
cause errors. The pathnames are translated to OpenVMS
syntax internally.
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| 420.73 | Reply to: FAIRFIELD@SLC.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU - Feedback/pg2 | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Tue Apr 08 1997 18:07 | 62 |
| From: HYLNDR::CDROM_DOCS 8-APR-1997 08:53:23.58
To: @[cdrom_docs.dis]mail_watch.dis
CC:
Subj: CDROM_Docs/Forward:
Page 2
o Pathnames that begin with '/' are treated as abso-
lute. The first component is the device name. If
a pathname begins with '%label', BNU looks up the
mount point for that label in its resource file and
substitutes that device for the %label field.
o BNU does not apply any default file extensions. You
must include the extension in the pathname.
DIGITAL may consolidate the VAX and AXP CD-ROM offerings
in the future; however, there are no plans in place to
implement that in the foreseeable future.
There are some books that are exclusive to OpenVMS
Alpha, and therefore not included on the OpenVMS VAX
CD-ROM. The reverse is also true.
For OpenVMS Alpha, the Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy is
being made available through ECO ALPCDDOCMAR97. In the
future, the Bookreader hierarchy will be available on
CD-ROM for both OpenVMS VAX and OpenVMS Alpha.
This saveset is available from:
o DIGITAL Electronic Service Delivery Tools (such as
DSNlink, Web Information and Support Service (WIS),
and DIGITAL Dial- In Access (DIA))
o the World Wide Web at:
http://www.service.digital.com/html/patch_main.html
o the following FTP address:
ftp://ftp.service.digital.com/public/vms/
If you need further information, please contact your
normal DIGITAL support channel.
The VAX and Alpha documentation can be read from either
platform transparantly, provided you run the SETUP.COM
procedure for each ODL library you wish to access. This
procedure is found in the [SETUP] directory on disc
1 on every ODL library. The SETUP.COM procedure will
invoke the BNU installation if necessary and install the
appropriate BNU image.
As currently implemented, users will have to restart BNU
to be able to read a newly configured library. Restart-
ing BNU is sufficient, they do not have to restart their
DECwindows session. We have future changes planned that
will reduce the need to restart BNU.
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| 420.74 | Reply to: FAIRFIELD@SLC.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU - Feedback/pg3 | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Tue Apr 08 1997 18:07 | 28 |
| From: HYLNDR::CDROM_DOCS 8-APR-1997 08:54:15.37
To: @[cdrom_docs.dis]mail_watch.dis
CC:
Subj: CDROM_Docs/Forward:
Page 3
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is DIGITAL's intent to update and enhance the Online
Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and in the
future.
Sincerely,
Shared Engineering Services
Information Integration Team
Digital Equipment Corporation
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| 420.75 | Reply to: win@gate.fim.fgan.de - feedback | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Tue Apr 08 1997 18:08 | 58 |
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From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 08-Apr-1997 0946 -0400" 8-APR-1997 09:47:07.14
To: ZKONS1::"win@gate.fim.fgan.de"
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback Response - "win@gate.fim.fgan.de" (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
R. Wingert
Eisenstockstr. 12
D-76275 Ettlingen
Germany
Dear R. Wingert:
If you would like your own bookshelves to be compatible with
the BNU, yes you will have to convert all of them. However, if
your Bookreader files are all in a single directory, this can
be assured by the following two steps:
1. Make sure there are no directories in the file refer-
ences.
2. Make sure all shelf file references include the file
extension (such as .DECW$BOOKSHELF)
A pathname that does not start with a '/' or '%,' will
be interpreted as relative to the current position.
The "current position" means the location of the shelf
file containing the reference, not your default user
directory.
At this time, you can only use the ISO-9660 filenames.
One way to get at the World Wide Web paths would be to
create a local HTML file with the WWW references in it.
You could then use the BNU to navigate to the HTML file,
then follow the included WWW references with Netscape.
We hope this aids you in setting up your BNU.
Sincerely,
Shared Engineering Services
Information Integration Department
Digital Equipment Corporation
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| 420.76 | Reply to: win@gate.fim.fgan.de - Feedback/pg2 | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Tue Apr 08 1997 18:09 | 62 |
| From: HYLNDR::CDROM_DOCS 8-APR-1997 09:52:47.37
To: @[cdrom_docs.dis]mail_watch.dis
CC:
Subj: CDROM_Docs/Forward:
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
R. Wingert
Eisenstockstr. 12
D-76275 Ettlingen
Germany
Dear R. Wingert:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
There is no orderable manual for the Bookshelf Naviga-
tion Utility. The Online Documentation Library User's
Guide contains all the information on installing and
using the BNU. This guide will continue to be updated
with more information in the future.
Yes, the BNU can be set up to work with an InfoServer.
Simply mount the InfoServer CD-ROM as you normally
would. InfoServer devices appear as local devices on
the OpenVMS system so that it becomes transparent to
the BNU that it is reading from the InfoServer.
The next release of the ODL will have an updated ODL
User's Guide which will include information on extending
the library to add your own Bookreader and HTML books.
The ODL bookshelves used by the BNU are similar to
Bookreader bookshelves. Differences include:
o A title entry only has two fields-the keyword "title"
and the text of the title.
Book and Shelf entries have three fields-a keyword
that indicates the type of entry (e.g. SHELF, BOOK,
HTML), a pathname (file specification), and the text
of the title.
o Fields in ODL bookshelves are separated by white
space (i.e. blanks and tabs) instead of the backslash
('\') character used by Bookreader. However, BNU will
recognize backslash characters as field separators.
o ODL pathnames use ISO-9660 style syntax. Pathname
components are separated with slash ('/') characters.
OpenVMS directory syntax is not recognized and will
cause errors. The pathnames are translated to OpenVMS
syntax internally.
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| 420.77 | Reply to: win@gate.fim.fgan.de - Feedback/pg3 | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Tue Apr 08 1997 18:09 | 34 |
| From: HYLNDR::CDROM_DOCS 8-APR-1997 09:53:26.44
To: @[cdrom_docs.dis]mail_watch.dis
CC:
Subj: CDROM_Docs/Forward:
Page 2
o Pathnames that begin with '/' are treated as abso-
lute. The first component is the device name. If
a pathname begins with '%label', BNU looks up the
mount point for that label in its resource file and
substitutes that device for the %label field.
o BNU does not apply any default file extensions. You
must include the extension in the pathname.
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is DIGITAL's intent to update and enhance the Online
Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and in the
future.
Sincerely,
Shared Engineering Services
Information Integration Team
Digital Equipment Corporation
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| 420.78 | Customer Query: williamsca@wku.edu - BNU | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu Apr 10 1997 20:49 | 23 |
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From: ZKONS1::"williamsca@wku.edu" 9-APR-1997 10:40:59.80
To: CDROM_DOCS@ZKO.DEC.COM
CC:
Subj: BNU
Well, it's great that Digital wants to provide more online documentation;
however, I think it is unreasonable for Digital to expect customers to have to
use Netscape. I do most of my work via a telnet session and do not have ready
access to the windowing terminal on the console. If you are going to force
your customers to use some web browser, then you should also provide a
text-based way to via the material (using Lynx perhaps). I hope you will give
some alternate method serious consideration.
| ____/ | /| / Curtis Williams, OpenVMS Systems Manager |
| / | / | / Western Kentucky University |
| /___ | / | / Academic Computing, WAB 313 |
| ______/ __/ __/ Bowling Green, KY 42101 USA |
| USPA C-25179 Voice: 502-745-5251 Fax: 502-745-6014 |
| INTERNET: williamsca@wku.edu WWW: http://www2.wku.edu/~williamsca/ |
| "Work hard, rock hard, eat hard, sleep hard, grow big, wear glasses if |
| you need 'em." -- The Webb Wilder Credo |
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| 420.80 | User request: NT_Solutions@merlin.kcc.com - OpenVMS CD-ROM Documentation | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Apr 14 1997 15:17 | 13 |
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From: ZKONS1::"NT_Solutions@merlin.kcc.com" 11-APR-1997 10:58:30.75
To: "'cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com'" <cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com>
CC: "'Marty'" <garofalo@merlin.kcc.com>, "'Tim'" <Schmitz@Merlin.kcc.com>
Subj: OpenVMS CD-ROM Documentation
I think it is ridiculous for Digital to waste time and resources creating
yet another new and proprietary standard for OpenVMS documentation. This
standard that is embraced world wide and by Digital ( except the OpenVMS
folks ) is a HTML browser client, I firmly believe that the OpenVMS group
need to provide it's documentation in 100% HTML format, and let the
licensed VMS users decide what browsers to use and what platform to
load the documentation on.
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| 420.81 | Reply to: williamsca@wku.edu - Feedback | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Apr 14 1997 15:18 | 63 |
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From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 11-Apr-1997 1412 -0400" 11-APR-1997 14:12:34.27
To: ZKONS1::"williamsca@wku.edu"
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback Response "williamsca@wku.edu" (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
Mr. Curtis Williams, OpenVMS Sys Mgr
Western Kentucky University
Academic Computing, WAB 313
Bowling Green, KY 42101
Dear Mr. Williams:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
The Online Documentation Library is unlikely to change
to HTML format within the next few months. The intent
of the Bookshelf Navigation Utility is to assist in that
transition and help move away from proprietary formats.
In the meantime, we will continue to make available the
Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy so that you can continue
to access Bookreader books on the CD, at least for the
next few releases.
To access the new Online Documentation Library CD-ROMs,
you can do the following:
1. Install the Bookshelf Navigation Utility. You can
continue the installation even though BNU will not
be able to find Netscape Navigator on your system.
Keep in mind that the BNU will work fine except when
it encounters an HTML book in the library. Without
Netscape Navigator installed, the BNU will be unable
to open the book. However, there are currently few
books available exclusively in HTML format on the
ODL.
2. Continue using the Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy. It
isn't apparent from your feedback which platform you
are on (OpenVMS Alpha or OpenVMS VAX).
If you are on OpenVMS VAX, a saveset is provided on
the CD-ROM which you can use to continue to access
the Bookreader books with a Bookreader hierarchy.
This saveset is located in [SETUP]VAXDOCMAR97.SAV and
information on accessing the saveset is in [README]$README.TXT
on Disc 1 of the ODL.
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| 420.82 | Reply to: williamsca@wku.edu - Feedback/pg2 | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Apr 14 1997 15:18 | 33 |
| From: HYLNDR::CDROM_DOCS 11-APR-1997 14:17:31.88
To: @[cdrom_docs.dis]mail_watch.dis
CC:
Subj: CDROM_Docs/Forward:
Page 2
If you are on OpenVMS Alpha, the Bookreader book-
shelf hierarchy is being made available through ECO
ALPCDDOCMAR97.
Note that the Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy will not
be able to access any HTML books on the ODL (although
there are a limited number of these today).
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is DIGITAL's intent to update and enhance the Online
Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and in the
future.
Sincerely,
Shared Engineering Services
Information Integration Team
Digital Equipment Corporation
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| 420.83 | Reply to: NT_Solutions@merlin.kcc.com - Feedback | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Apr 14 1997 15:21 | 63 |
|
From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 14-Apr-1997 1043 -0400" 14-APR-1997 10:44:01.42
To: ZKONS1::"NT_Solutions@merlin.kcc.com"
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback Response "NT_Solutions@merlin.kcc.com" (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
NT Solutions
"NT_Solutions@merlin.kcc.com"
Dear NT Solutions:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
The Online Documentation Library is unlikely to change
to HTML format within the next few months. The intent
of the Bookshelf Navigation Utility is to assist in that
transition and help move away from proprietary formats.
In the meantime, we will continue to make available the
Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy so that you can continue
to access Bookreader books on the CD, at least for the
next few releases.
To access the new Online Documentation Library CD-ROMs,
you can do the following:
1. Install the Bookshelf Navigation Utility. You can
continue the installation even though BNU will not
be able to find Netscape Navigator on your system.
Keep in mind that the BNU will work fine except when
it encounters an HTML book in the library. Without
Netscape Navigator installed, the BNU will be unable
to open the book. However, there are currently few
books available exclusively in HTML format on the
ODL.
2. Continue using the Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy.
If you are on OpenVMS VAX, a saveset is provided on
the CD-ROM which you can use to continue to access
the Bookreader books with a Bookreader hierarchy.
This saveset is located in [SETUP]VAXDOCMAR97.SAV and
information on accessing the saveset is in [README]$README.TXT
on Disc 1 of the ODL.
If you are on OpenVMS Alpha, the Bookreader book-
shelf hierarchy is being made available through ECO
ALPCDDOCMAR97.
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| 420.84 | Reply to: NT_Solutions@merlin.kcc.com - Feedback/pg2 | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Apr 14 1997 15:21 | 28 |
| From: HYLNDR::CDROM_DOCS 14-APR-1997 10:45:32.82
To: @[cdrom_docs.dis]mail_watch.dis
CC:
Subj: CDROM_Docs/Forward:
Page 2
Note that the Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy will not
be able to access any HTML books on the ODL (although
there are a limited number of these today).
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is DIGITAL's intent to update and enhance the Online
Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and in the
future.
Sincerely,
Shared Engineering Services
Information Integration Team
Digital Equipment Corporation
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| 420.85 | User query; renee.guilmette@po.state.ct.us - ODL New Directions | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Tue Apr 15 1997 21:11 | 18 |
| From: ZKONS1::"renee.guilmette@po.state.ct.us" 15-APR-1997 16:58:48.46
To: "'cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com'" <cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com>
CC:
Subj: ODL New Directions
The March 1997 OpenVMS VAX Online Documentation Library no longer appears to be in "Bookshelf" format.
I'm assuming from the yellow notification sheet that it is now in a format that the Bookshelf Navigation Utility can read.
Unfortunately, I did not see any reference as to how we are supposed to install or use BNU. I read the release notes in the latest version of Motif and saw no reference to BNU.
Please explain how we are to use the March ODL.
Thank you,
Renee Guilmette
(860)566-4471
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| 420.86 | User query: BAKICH@fhep32.physics.usyd.edu.au - Online Documentation query | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Tue Apr 22 1997 16:07 | 27 |
|
From: ZKONS1::"BAKICH@fhep32.physics.usyd.edu.au" 21-APR-1997 23:07:21.64
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj: Online Documentation query
Can you please advise what would be the correct order number
for the OpenVMS VAX software products online documentation
library CDROMs ?
Our service subscription includes the OpenVMS documentation
but does not include the documentation on the various specific
software products, such as DEC C/C++ or DEC FORTRAN language
reference manuals, user guides, etc.
Our local suppliers have suggested a 'one-time order' number
QA-VYR8A-G8, but could not confirm whether this CDROM does
include the compiler manuals and user guides mentioned above.
Thanks in advance,
Andrew M.Bakich
School of Physics A28 | phone 612 9351 2638
University of Sydney | fax 612 9351 7727
Sydney NSW 2006 | email bakich@physics.usyd.edu.au
AUSTRALIA
|
| 420.87 | User query: pnankervis@VNET.IBM.COM - OVMS 7.1 Distribution | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Wed Apr 23 1997 18:33 | 24 |
|
From: ZKONS1::"pnankervis@VNET.IBM.COM" "23-Apr-1997 1125" 22-APR-1997 21:42:23.90
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj: OVMS 7.1 Distribution
Hi,
The documentation for the 'OVMS VAX LP & OS PKG Q1CY97' kit
indicates that the OVMS 7.1 distribution should be on CD #1.
There is a directory for it containing documentation but no
binaries. Is there some trick to this or has OVMS 7.1 been
ommitted from the distribution? (It is not on CD #1 but I
have not checked the other CDs).
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
Paul Nankervis
Midrange Systems
ISSC Australia
Email: pnankervis@vnet.ibm.com
|
| 420.88 | Reply to: renee.guilmette@po.state.ct.us; feedback | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Wed Apr 23 1997 18:40 | 735 |
| 420.89 | Reply to: Jyoungacp@aol.com - User feedback | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Fri Apr 25 1997 15:38 | 82 |
|
From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 25-Apr-1997 0936 -0400" 25-APR-1997 09:35:39.34
To: ZKONS1::"Jyoungacp@aol.com"
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback Response - "Jyoungacp@aol.com" (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
James Young
Atlantic City Press
1000 W. Washington Ave.
Pleasantville, NJ 08232
Dear Mr. Young:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
Some of your questions may be answered by a "Frequently
Asked Questions" document that will be sent out in a
cover letter to all existing Online Documentation Li-
brary subscribers. This information will also be in-
cluded in future versions of the Online Documentation
Library User's Guide.
The Bookreader bookshelf hierarchy is available if
you choose not to use the BNU. This hierarchy will
allow you to continue using Bookreader as your book-
shelf interface, but you will only be able to access
Bookreader books. This hierarchy is located on Disc
1 of the VAX ODL release in the following location:
DISK$VAXDOCMAR971:[SETUP]VAXDOCMAR97.SAV. Refer to the
information in the [README]$README.TXT file on how to
install the Bookreader hierarchy from saveset.
For the current Alpha release, the Bookreader hierarchy
is available as an ECO: ALPCDDOCMAR97. However, the
Bookreader hierarchy will be available on the next Alpha
ODL release.
The Online Documentation Library (old and new) is in-
tended for windowing systems. DIGITAL has never sup-
ported a VT (ascii-based) interface to Bookreader.
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is the intent of DIGITAL to update and enhance the
From: HYLNDR::CDROM_DOCS 25-APR-1997 09:40:07.18
To: @[cdrom_docs.dis]mail_watch.dis
CC:
Subj: CDROM_Docs/Forward:
Page 2
Online Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and
in the future.
Sincerely,
Shared Engineering Services
Information Integration Team
Digital Equipment Corporation
|
| 420.90 | Reply to: BAKICH@fhep32.physics.usyd.edu.au - Online Documentation query | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Fri Apr 25 1997 15:38 | 112 |
| 420.91 | User Query; PCMcTeague@DELGROUP.COM - ODL New Directions | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Mon Apr 28 1997 16:58 | 18 |
|
From: ZKONS1::"PCMcTeague@DELGROUP.COM" 28-APR-1997 10:27 28-APR-1997 10:27:00.00
To: "'cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com'" <cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com>
CC:
Subj: ODL New Directions
I was happy to see that you are moving to browser-based documentation,
but I am still not sure it will help us. We have a three-node cluster
(two VAX, one Alpha) running VMS v6.2. We do not run DECwindows and
have no plans to do so, since our applications do not require it. Can
we use this online documentation? Our developers would certainly love
to have this information available on their desktops. I would greatly
appreciate an answer to this question. Thank you.
Patrick McTeague
VMS Administrator
The Delaware Group
215-255-2114
|
| 420.92 | User Query: LAUER@hepvms.physics.yale.edu - ODL New Directions | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu May 01 1997 12:30 | 38 |
|
From: ZKONS1::"LAUER@hepvms.physics.yale.edu" 30-APR-1997 11:40 30-APR-1997 11:40:00.00
To: CDROM_DOCS@ZKO.DEC.COM
CC:
Subj: ODL New Directions
Hello,
I've just installed BNU on our VMS 7.1 VMScluster. It's working quite
nicely and the HTML files provide definite added functionality
However, although the HTML files have definite
advantages I am concerned about the inability to (easily if at all)
print an entire book. For example,
I find it desirable and necessary to print the installation guides in
entirety.
It appears that with the advent of HTML docs the ability to print a whole
manual has been lost (without clicking on each of the chapters and printing
them separately).
Am I missing something here ? Will this functionality disappear ?
(this IS a problem with Hypertext. Obviously linked documentation
has advantages for interactive browsing but if there are >1
sections desired in hard copy, there is a problem. Our users require that
we provide the full document in postscript or PDF so they can print it
all if necessary).
Any thoughts/help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for listening
Rochelle Lauer
Director, Yale University High Energy Physics Computing
lauer@hepmail.physics.yale.edu
|
| 420.93 | Reply to: LAUER@hepvms.physics.yale.edu - ODL New Directions | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu May 01 1997 12:30 | 94 |
| From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 30-Apr-1997 1510 -0400" 30-APR-1997 15:09 30-APR-1997 15:09:00.00
To: US2RMC::"LAUER@hepvms.physics.yale.edu"
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback Response "LAUER@hepvms.physics.yale.edu" (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
Rochelle Lauer
Director, Yale University High Energy Physics Computing
lauer@hepmail.physics.yale.edu
Dear Mr. Lauer:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
The ability to print the whole book from HTML makes it
difficult to use online, thus, most authors have opti-
mized their HTML files for online display.
To help alleviate this situation, most all products have
a PostScript[TM] (.PS) or ASCII (.TXT) version of their
install guides available as part of their binary kits.
If a particular product's documentation is not available
in PostScript (.PS) or ASCII formats, you may wish to
provide feedback to that product group on either providing
.PS or .TXT files, or constructing their HTML files
as one large file that can be printed intact.
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is the intent of DIGITAL to update and enhance the
Online Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and
in the future.
Sincerely,
Shared Engineering Services
Information Integration Team
Digital Equipment Corporation
===================================
From: ZKONS1::"LAUER@hepvms.physics.yale.edu" 30-APR-1997 11:40 30-APR-1997
11
:40:00.00
To: CDROM_DOCS@ZKO.DEC.COM
CC:
Subj: ODL New Directions
Hello,
I've just installed BNU on our VMS 7.1 VMScluster. It's working quite
nicely and the HTML files provide definite added functionality
However, although the HTML files have definite
advantages I am concerned about the inability to (easily if at all)
print an entire book. For example,
I find it desirable and necessary to print the installation guides in
entirety.
It appears that with the advent of HTML docs the ability to print a whole
manual has been lost (without clicking on each of the chapters and printing
them separately).
Am I missing something here ? Will this functionality disappear ?
(this IS a problem with Hypertext. Obviously linked documentation
has advantages for interactive browsing but if there are >1
sections desired in hard copy, there is a problem. Our users require that
we provide the full document in postscript or PDF so they can print it
all if necessary).
Any thoughts/help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for listening
Rochelle Lauer
Director, Yale University High Energy Physics Computing
lauer@hepmail.physics.yale.edu
|
| 420.94 | Print All? | FORTY2::KNOWLES | Per ardua ad nauseam | Fri May 02 1997 07:36 | 10 |
| Rather than putting pressure on writing groups to make their HTML
offerings less web-like (all in one file), couldn't we ask developers
to ship an executable that takes all the mouse-work out of printing all
the bits of a web of HTML documents? Is it feasible for BNU to enhance
the browser with a menu item that does this for any book (maybe it's
not, but it's an interesting thought)?
b
[I would have put this in the "New Directions" note, but that's getting
a bit cluttered with me talking to myself.]
|
| 420.95 | User Query: Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr - Printing Books with BNU | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu May 08 1997 16:18 | 29 |
|
From: ZKONS1::"Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr" 30-APR-1997 12:23 30-APR-1997 12:23:00.00
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj: Printing Books with BNU
Hello,
I've just installed BNU on my VMS systems and now it's no more possible to
print a book.
Is there something to replace this ?
Thank you,
Regards,
Daniel Clar
o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o
| Daniel Clar e-mail : Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr |
| Computer Operations Manager : dc@supelec.fr |
| Service Informatique Supelec and |
| Plateau de Moulon DECUSF::CLAR_D or |
| 91192 Gif sur Yvette Cedex - France Daniel.Clar@decus.fr |
| Tel : (33 1) 69 85 14 87 Fax : (33 1) 69 85 12 34 |
o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o
|
| 420.96 | Reply to: Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr - printing docs | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu May 08 1997 16:19 | 88 |
| From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 02-May-1997 0931 -0400" 2-MAY-1997 09:29 2-MAY-1997 09:29:00.00
To: US2RMC::"Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr"
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback Response "Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr" (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
Daniel Clar
Service Informatique Supelec
Plateau de Moulon
91192 Gif sur Yvette Cedex - France
Dear Mr. Clar:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
The BNU did not change the ability of Bookreader to
print books, this works the same as it has in the past.
Most products have a PostScript[TM] (.PS) or ASCII
(.TXT) version of their install guides available as
part of their binary kits.
If a particular product's documentation is not available
in PostScript (.PS) or ASCII formats, you may wish to
provide feedback to that product group on either provid-
ing .PS or .TXT files, or constructing their HTML files
as one large file that can be printed intact.
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is the intent of DIGITAL to update and enhance the
Online Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and
in the future.
Sincerely,
Shared Engineering Services
Information Integration Team
Digital Equipment Corporation
====================================
From: ZKONS1::"Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr" 30-APR-1997 12:23 30-APR-1997
12:23:00.
00
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj: Printing Books with BNU
Hello,
I've just installed BNU on my VMS systems and now it's no more possible to
print a book.
Is there something to replace this ?
Thank you,
Regards,
Daniel Clar
o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o
| Daniel Clar e-mail : Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr |
| Computer Operations Manager : dc@supelec.fr |
| Service Informatique Supelec and |
| Plateau de Moulon DECUSF::CLAR_D or |
| 91192 Gif sur Yvette Cedex - France Daniel.Clar@decus.fr |
| Tel : (33 1) 69 85 14 87 Fax : (33 1) 69 85 12 34 |
o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o
|
| 420.97 | User Query: TOM@stblaw.com - install procedure doesn't work across a network | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu May 08 1997 16:20 | 11 |
| From: ZKONS1::"TOM@stblaw.com" 2-MAY-1997 10:04 2-MAY-1997 10:04:00.00
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj: install procedure doesn't work across a network
invoking the BNU install procedure from a remote (decnet) node fails.
based on the error message, i assume that it fails to take into account the
possibility that the filespec for the CDROM contents may include a node name.
/tom crowley
|
| 420.98 | User Query: Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr - Several Questions on BNU (resend because no answer) | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu May 08 1997 16:22 | 64 |
| From: ZKONS1::"Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr" 7-MAY-1997 04:57 7-MAY-1997 04:57:00.00
To: cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com
CC:
Subj: Several Questions on BNU (resend because no answer)
Hello,
1) I'm trying to use BNU as described in the document called FAQ about the BNU
and in particular :
$ define/system disk$axpdocmar971 node::disk$axpdocmar971:
If the command is
$ dir DISK$AXPDOCMAR971
the result is :
$ Directory NODE::DISK$AXPDOCMAR971:[000,000]
000000.DIR;1 BACKUP.SYS;1 BADBLK.SYS;1 BADLOG.SYS;1
BITMAP.SYS;1 CONTENTS.ODL;1 CONTIN.SYS;1 CORIMG.SYS;1
HARDWARE.DIR;1 INDEXF.SYS;1 LABEL.DAT;1 OFFAPP.DIR;1
PRODLIST.ODL;1 PROGTOOL.DIR;1 README.DIR;1 SECURITY.SYS;1
SETUP.DIR;1 SYSMGMT.DIR;1 TELNTWRK.DIR;1 VOLSET.SYS;1
Total of 20 files.
$
But with BNU the display is :
X Online Documentation Library
X Online Documentation Library
and when I click on Online Documentation Library, there is an error message :
Error opening bookshelf.
Title: Online Documentation Library
File: /NODE::DISK$AXPDOCMAR971:/000000/contents.odl
Reason: no such device
In fact, the definitions used are not taken in the logicals table but in
bnu.dat and even with the good definition in bnu.dat the error message is
the same.
2) Some layered products with decwindows interface consult the bookreader
documentation as Help. It doesn't work any more.
Thank you for your answers
Regards,
Daniel Clar
o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o
| Daniel Clar e-mail : Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr |
| Computer Operations Manager : dc@supelec.fr |
| Service Informatique Supelec and |
| Plateau de Moulon DECUSF::CLAR_D or |
| 91192 Gif sur Yvette Cedex - France Daniel.Clar@decus.fr |
| Tel : (33 1) 69 85 14 87 Fax : (33 1) 69 85 12 34 |
o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o
|
| 420.99 | Reply To: Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr - Several Questions on BNU (resend because no answer) | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Thu May 08 1997 16:22 | 95 |
|
From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 03-May-1997 2041 -0400" 3-MAY-1997 20:39 3-MAY-1997 20:39:00.00
To: US2RMC::"Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr"
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback Response - "Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr" (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
Daniel Clar
Dear Mr. Clar:
The BNU did not change the ability of Bookreader to
print books. Although the BNU does not support printing
books, Bookreader still does.
There are a few ways to print a book from the Bookreader.
The simplest is to select all topics in the Table of
Contents, then select File->Print Topic(s), in the Con-
tents window.
Alternatively, you could create a Bookreader library for
the book(s) you wish to print, open that library with
Bookreader and print the book from the library window as
you have always done.
The next release of the ODL will include a Bookreader
hierarchy which will make the latter alternative much
simpler.
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is the intent of DIGITAL to update and enhance the
Online Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and
in the future.
Sincerely,
Shared Engineering Services
Information Integration Team
Digital Equipment Corporation
====================================
From: 57320::"Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr" "Daniel Clar" 2-MAY-1997 10:21:43.65
To: donvan::odl_cdrom
CC:
Subj: Re: User Feedback Response "Daniel.Clar@supelec.fr" (CDROM_DOCS)
> Digital Equipment Corporation
> 110 Spit Brook Road
> Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
>
>
> Daniel Clar
> Service Informatique Supelec
> Plateau de Moulon
> 91192 Gif sur Yvette Cedex - France
>
> Dear Mr. Clar:
>
> Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
> Documentation Library.
>
> The BNU did not change the ability of Bookreader to
> print books, this works the same as it has in the past.
> Most products have a PostScript[TM] (.PS) or ASCII
> (.TXT) version of their install guides available as
> part of their binary kits.
Sorry I don't agree with this.
If I select a book abd choose the file menu, the only options are
Open Book, Switch Library and Exit.
So you have first to Open the Book and then only you're able to
print but Topics by Topics and not the whole book.
Regards,
Daniel Clar
|
| 420.100 | User query; "Todd.Orf@HSV.Boeing.com" - BNU | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Fri May 16 1997 15:46 | 22 |
|
From: ZKONS1::"Todd.Orf@HSV.Boeing.com" 16-MAY-1997 11:01 16-MAY-1997 11:01:00.00
To: "'cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com'" <cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com>
CC:
Subj: "ODL New Directions" ODL New Directions BNU configuration
When installing the BNU product on my ALPHA (VMS V6.2 1H1), I noticed
that I was asked for the two drives (logicals) to set up where the ODL
library would be mounted.
My question is: When useing Bookreader I set up a logicals to point to
other locations of Bookreader Librarys ( DECW$BOOK, DECW$BOOKSHELF). I
would like to get all my librarys in BNU.
Thank you for your time...
Todd Orf
VMS Systems Management
|
| 420.101 | Reply to: Todd.Orf@HSV.Boeing.com | HYLNDR::BROWN | | Fri May 23 1997 18:31 | 131 |
| From: DONVAN::ODL_CDROM "ODL - Online Documentation Library Central Account 23-May-1997 1040 -0400" 23-MAY-1997 10:38 23-MAY-1997 10:38:00.00
To: ZKONS1::"Todd.Orf@HSV.Boeing.com"
CC: @BNU_CUST_RESP
Subj: User Feedback Response - "Todd.Orf@HSV.Boeing.com" (CDROM_DOCS)
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
Todd Orf
VMS System Managment
"Todd.Orf@HSV.Boeing.com"
Dear Mr. Orf:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
To clarify your question, you have additional bookreader
libraries that you wish to integrate with the Bookshelf
Navigation Utility in other locations?
At this time, BNU can only access libraries on the same
system.
The Online Documentation Library bookshelves used by the
BNU are similar to Bookreader bookshelves. Differences
include:
o A title entry only has two fields: the keyword "ti-
tle" and the text of the title.
Book and Shelf entries have three fields: a keyword
that indicates the type of entry (e.g. SHELF, BOOK,
HTML), a pathname (file specification), and the text
of the title.
o Fields in ODL bookshelves are separated by white
space (i.e. blanks and tabs) instead of the backslash
('\') character used by Bookreader. However, BNU will
recognize backslash characters as field separators.
o ODL pathnames use ISO-9660 style syntax. Pathname
components are separated with slash ('/') characters.
OpenVMS directory syntax is not recognized and will
cause errors. The pathnames are translated to OpenVMS
syntax internally.
o Pathnames that begin with '/' are treated as abso-
lute. The first component is the device name. If
a pathname begins with '%label', BNU looks up the
mount point for that label in its resource file and
substitutes that device for the %label field.
o BNU does not apply any default file extensions. You
must include the extension in the pathname.
Page 2
If you would like your own bookshelves to be compatible
with the BNU, you will have to convert all of them.
However, if your Bookreader files are all in a single
directory, this can be assured by the following two
steps:
1. Make sure there are no directories in the file refer-
ences.
2. Make sure all shelf file references include the file
extension (such as .DECW$BOOKSHELF)
A pathname that does not start with a '/' or '%,' will
be interpreted as relative to the current position.
The "current position" means the location of the shelf
file containing the reference, not your default user
directory.
We hope this aids you in setting up your BNU.
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is the intent of DIGITAL to update and enhance the
Online Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and
in the future.
Sincerely,
Shared Engineering Services
Information Integration Team
Digital Equipment Corporation
From: ZKONS1::"Todd.Orf@HSV.Boeing.com" 16-MAY-1997 11:01 16-MAY-1997
11:01:00
.00
To: "'cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com'" <cdrom_docs@zko.dec.com>
CC:
Subj: "ODL New Directions" ODL New Directions BNU configuration
When installing the BNU product on my ALPHA (VMS V6.2 1H1), I noticed
that I was asked for the two drives (logicals) to set up where the ODL
library would be mounted.
My question is: When useing Bookreader I set up a logicals to point to
other locations of Bookreader Librarys ( DECW$BOOK, DECW$BOOKSHELF). I
would like to get all my librarys in BNU.
Thank you for your time...
Todd Orf
VMS Systems Management
|
| 420.102 | Positive feedback from Boeing (.101) | SUPER::MULLEN | | Fri May 30 1997 18:03 | 118 |
|
From: 57320::"Todd.Orf@HSV.Boeing.com" "Orf, Todd L" 23-MAY-1997 14:46:04.80
To: "'\"Todd.Orf@HSV.Boeing.com\"@ZKONS1.enet.dec.com'"
CC: "'@BNU_CUST_RESP@zko.dec.com'"
Subj: RE: User Feedback Response - "Todd.Orf@HSV.Boeing.com" (CDROM_DOCS)
Thank you for the information. I have created ODL files from the
DECW$BOOKSHELF files and put the information into LIBRARY.ODL.
All the information is there and works great. If I find the time I
might try to write my own HTML files and add them to the Library system
Thanks again
Todd Orf
VMS Systems Management
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, New Hampshire 03062-2986
Todd Orf
VMS System Managment
"Todd.Orf@HSV.Boeing.com"
Dear Mr. Orf:
Thank you for your recent feedback on the Online
Documentation Library.
To clarify your question, you have additional bookreader
libraries that you wish to integrate with the Bookshelf
Navigation Utility in other locations?
At this time, BNU can only access libraries on the same
system.
The Online Documentation Library bookshelves used by the
BNU are similar to Bookreader bookshelves. Differences
include:
o A title entry only has two fields: the keyword "ti-
tle" and the text of the title.
Book and Shelf entries have three fields: a keyword
that indicates the type of entry (e.g. SHELF, BOOK,
HTML), a pathname (file specification), and the text
of the title.
o Fields in ODL bookshelves are separated by white
space (i.e. blanks and tabs) instead of the backslash
('\') character used by Bookreader. However, BNU will
recognize backslash characters as field separators.
o ODL pathnames use ISO-9660 style syntax. Pathname
components are separated with slash ('/') characters.
OpenVMS directory syntax is not recognized and will
cause errors. The pathnames are translated to OpenVMS
syntax internally.
o Pathnames that begin with '/' are treated as abso-
lute. The first component is the device name. If
a pathname begins with '%label', BNU looks up the
mount point for that label in its resource file and
substitutes that device for the %label field.
o BNU does not apply any default file extensions. You
must include the extension in the pathname.
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If you would like your own bookshelves to be compatible
with the BNU, you will have to convert all of them.
However, if your Bookreader files are all in a single
directory, this can be assured by the following two
steps:
1. Make sure there are no directories in the file refer-
ences.
2. Make sure all shelf file references include the file
extension (such as .DECW$BOOKSHELF)
A pathname that does not start with a '/' or '%,' will
be interpreted as relative to the current position.
The "current position" means the location of the shelf
file containing the reference, not your default user
directory.
We hope this aids you in setting up your BNU.
We regret any inconvenience that you have encountered
while trying to use the Bookshelf Navigation Utility.
It is the intent of DIGITAL to update and enhance the
Online Documentation Library to meet your needs, now and
in the future.
Sincerely,
Shared Engineering Services
Information Integration Team
Digital Equipment Corporation
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