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Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

926.0. "'Dianetics' Book" by CURIE::HEBERT (just slips away - but I try) Mon Dec 05 1988 14:34

Hi - I'm relatively new to this conference (I'll enter something in 
the 'who are you' note) and I think this conf. is great.

Anyway - I didn't see any notes in the directory on this topic, so...
I was thinking of getting the book 'Dianetics' by L. Ron 
Hubbard (I've seen it advertised on tv) and I was wondering, for those 
of you who have read it or know something about it,  what you thought. 
Good ideas - worthwhile? I heard the author is an ex-sci-fi writer and 
that he started a religion/church? based on the book?

thanks,

Charlotte
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926.1BEWARE!GRECO::MISTOVICHMon Dec 05 1988 15:3645
    Dianetics is a system of counseling that enables the person to lesson
    the impact of traumatic events by repeatedly re-experiencing the emotions
    attached to specific events until they energy attached to the event
    dissipates.  One literally becomes bored with the experience that
    was causing problems. 
    
    I have been through some dianetic counseling.  I believe it is a
    valid and powerful therapeutic tool.  It is similar to traditional
    types of therapy, but has some differences that 
    make it more effective.  Unlike traditional therapy, it is very
    systematic.  The counselor leads you through a traumatic event until
    the energy is dissipated.  If the energy will not lessen, than the
    dianetics belief is that there is an earlier, related trauma, and
    the counselor regresses you until you find that earlier trauma.
     The regressions happen remarkably fast--in a matter of seconds.
    When you find the original trauma that is causing a problem, you
    re-experience it until it dissipates, then move forward to the later
    traumas.  They disappear very quickly, since the original trauma
    creates a foundation for the later, related ones.
    
    Unfortunately, dianetics became a razorblade in the monkeys hand.
     The originator of the technique and founder of the "church" of
    scientology, L. Ron Hubbard, was the leader of a cult that made
    him quite wealthy.  He was also a fugitive from the governments
    of many countries around  the world and spent the end of his life
    living on a ship, literally unable to dock.  A book about Hubbard
    was recently published.  It was written by an ex-"church" member.
     By the way, the group was set up as a "church" for tax-evasion.
    I suppose Hubbard was/is the "god."
    
    His cult, the "Church of Scientology," was (and is) an incredibly
    manipulative, coercive organization.  I got involved in the
    organization very briefly after reading the book.  I had an incredibly 
    difficult time getting out of it.  I was continually hounded by
    phone calls and letters from members, after I received a couple
    weeks of dianetic counseling.  After 6 months, I moved.  Otherwise
    I suppose they would still be calling me!  
    
    Also, they only allow you to have a certain amount of dianetics,
    then refuse you anymore until you take some very expensive "classes"
    that supposely speed up later dianetics work.  The books in the 
    classes contain some subtle attempts at brainwashing.  My books 
    disappeared out of my apartment shortly after I refused to
    return to the group.  Its too bad they disappeared.  I was planning on 
    using them for an expose'-type article.  
926.2More Information on SubjectPLEXUS::V5REGISTRARMon Dec 05 1988 20:478
    
    
    Just wanted to mention that in the Psychology conference (TERZA::
    PSYCHOLOGY) Note 40 deals with the subject.  You might want to
    read thru the 58 or so replies.  Some interesting info.
    
    Joanne
    
926.3VIDEO::MORRISSEYWhen the children cry...Tue Dec 06 1988 17:549
    
    
    re: -1
    
    	Just out of curiosity....is this Church of Scientology the same
    	one that Lisa Marie Presley supposedly belongs to?
    
    	JJ
    
926.4small points ...FLASH1::KALLISAnger's no replacement for reason.Tue Dec 06 1988 19:0511
    Time to throw in a few cents' worth...
    
    I haven't (and don't intend to) read the discussion in PSYCHOLOGY.
    L. Ron Hubbard was a science-fiction writer who, in 1950 or thereabouts
    came up with Dianetics, which he wrote of originally in _Astounding
    Science Fiction_ magazine.  Much has been written about it since.
    
    Hubbard later developed Scientology, which was a sort of superset
    of Dianetics; this later became the base for the Church of Scientology.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
926.5Anyone wanna join a cult?WOODRO::OLSONRTFMFri Dec 16 1988 08:1619
    I read "Dianetics" twice and was extremely excited about the
    possibility of becoming a "Clear".  I do believe in Dianetics, to
    a certain degree, however, when they asked me to "DONATE" $65/hr
    session to achieve the Clear level, I guess you know where I told
    them to stick it.
    
    The organization sort of reminds me of the "Moonies" or something
    of the sort.  They have a college that you can attend to become
    a counselor and such.
    
    You do find out a lot of things that happened during your life
    that molded it to where you are now, Engrams, such as a person who
    could remember back to when he was in his mothers womb and his father
    had sex with his mother during the pregnancy.  Kind of outlandish
    if you ask me!
    
    
    -jeff-
    
926.6How to find more info on ScientologyDRCS::ABEYAI'll fix you a program in no time !Thu Jan 19 1989 08:0914
    re .0
  > I didn't see any notes in the directory on this topic,
    
    Charlotte, you'll find plenty of info by must doing:
    
    NOTES> DIR/TITL=SCIENTO
    
    or even better (but it will take a LONG time, so do it
    before going for lunch for example):
    
    NOTES> DIR/ALL/TITL=SCIENTO
    
    Ines