Conference hydra::dejavu

    This is very much in keeping with the other stories I've been hearing.
    I've been told that the Hopi have actually had a meeting with native
    Australian Aborigines who have prophesied this since their "dream
    time".  Native American Indians (Tribal Elders) are meeting in council
    to plan medicine wheel gatherings.  Rainbow Warriors around the world 
    from all different cultures, countries, religions and backgrounds are 
    preparing for this time.  

     What about the number 144,000?I seem to recall some biblical reference
    using this number.Something about the 144,000 saviors on MT. Zion?
    Interesting.Is there a connection?
    
    MIKE

    I think so.  The number keeps coming up from a variety of sources.

The following was published in a new age magazine in Massachusetts. It is
fairly long and I was inquiring this morning as to where I should post it.
This seems to be a good place...


                            THE AGE OF FLOWERS
                         By Steven S.H. McFadden
                    [Re-printed here without permission]
    Though the  terms  New Age and Age of Aquarius are well known, if not
particulary well understood, few people have ever heard of the Age of the
Flowers.  Yet, if there is truth to  one  of  the  central legends of the
land we now know as America, that age begins  this summer over a critical
nine-day period that may be of profound importance to everyone  now  wal-
king the face of the earth.
    According to  students of these  American legends and prophecies, the
Age of the Flowers will begin  with a sharp acceleration in the energy at
work in the world, a period of  intense  spiritual action which may shake
the world for 25 years as the old gives way to the new.  Arising from the
ancient  cultures  of  Central America, these prophecies are recorded  in
what have come to be known as the Mayan and  Aztec  calenders,  works  of
high mathematical sophistication.   Because of their scientific elegance,
and the depth of  information  they  contain,  both the calenders and the
pyramids of this region are  considered  by some metaphysical scholars to
be  the  principal  repository  of esoteric teachings appropriate to this
hemisphere - the Yucatan as  the  Egypt  of  the Americas.  Many who have
studied these Central American artifacts believe  they  reveal  that this
present world cycle, called the Fifth Sun  by  the  Aztecs,  will  end in
August  of this summer just as the world  of  the  Sixth  Sun  begins  to
germinate.    To  be  understood,  these  native  prophecies  require   a
historical  context,  a context provided by a rich part of  the  American
heritage  that is generally given scant attention in textbooks.  In  this
overview,  that history leads naturally into a survey of the contemporary
interpretations of what some people are calling a paramount turning point
in history.

                           THE LORD OF THE DAWN
    Over 1,000 years  ago  in  the land now  known as Mexico,  the Toltec
tribe was led by a great king and prophet named Quetzalcoatl.  His symbol
was a serpant covered with  green  feathers,  representing  the  union of
spirit and matter.  Called the Lord of the Dawn, he  was  thought to be a
Divine  Son  who was carrying out the will of the Godhead.   Quetzalcoatl
was  described  as  a  white  man with a beard, who wore long robes,  and
taught of  one  supreme  God.   He gave the Toltecs many material things,
such as their  calendar,  and  instructed  them  in  all  manner of arts,
sciences, and social customs.
    Though the myths of  this continent are indistinct in many ways, most
students of the Americas would agree that Quetzalcoatl was our most spec-
tacular culture hero, certainly the one with the  most  widespread influ-
ence.   Teaching a religion of love, he formed  two  holy  orders;    the
Jaguar  Knights  and the Eagle Knights.  Like the famed  Knights  of  the
Round  Table - and at about the same period in history  -  these  Central
American  Knights were dedicated to the search for spiritual strength and
to deeds of  honor,  mercy, and kindness.  Along with all who believed in
Quetzalcoatl's teachings, they  became  members  of the Fellowship of the
Tree of Life.   There  is  a real tree in Oaxaca, Mexico, that symbolizes
this love and unity of people  who  have merged their hearts together and
work to fulfill the teaching of the Creator.
    As history has  amply  recorded, this emphasis on the heart was later
distorted by the Aztecs  in  a ritual of bloody sacrifice.  William Irwin
Thompson expresses that distortion vividly  in his book _Blue_Jade_from_-
_the_Morning_Star_,  "In the religion of Quetzalcoatl, one  learned...how
to open one's heart to the light of the  sun.    The opening of the heart
charkra  to thte light  is one of the sublime religious experiences,  and
this  image was used, and is still used today, by the Sufis  as  the  in-
signium of their  practice.    The Aztecs, however, perverted the ancient
practice, reduced it to  a  fundamental literalism, and began to rip open
the chests of sacraficed victims  so that the priest could hold the heart
up to the sun.
    Despite this perversion, the core of Quetzalcoatl's message was noble
and highly advanced - a reality that was later obscured  through the zea-
lous work of missionaries.  Quetzalcoatl is said to have foretold many of
the most important events to  come  in  the  thousand  years  which would
follow his death. In particular, he prophesized that he would return some
day in the same manner as he had left, over the Eastern ocean. But before
he returned,  he  said,  bearded white men would come in boats with sails
like white wings.    They  would  conquer the indians and force on them a
different religion - a  beautiful  religion,  but  one that the white men
would not live up to themselves.
    When the  world  seemed  to  be  dying from abuses of the science the
white conquerers would  bring  with  them,  Quetzalcoatl prophesized, the
Tree of Life would wither and die, symbolizing the end of one age and the
start of another.  As  understood  by  the Toltecs, our present world has
been  preceded by four other worlds  or  creations,  all  of  which  were
destroyed as they became spiritually corrupt -  the  last  one by a great
flood.  Quetzalcoatl prophesized that after his passing  the  world would
go  through  thirteen  52-year  cycles  of  decreasing light and  choice,
followed  by nine 52-year cycles of increasing darkness and trouble,  the
period  of nine hells.  The last of those periods ends  this  summer,  on
August 16, 1987, to be exact.
    According to Quetzalcoatl, our fate  at  the  end  of this age is, as
ever,  in our own hands.   We  can  destroy  the  world  through  selfish
thoughts and actions, or we can come  into  harmony with the Divine order
and all the creations of the earth.  As  expressed  in  native cosmology,
humanity holds a central postition between the two great powers  of Light
and  Darkness, and is the focus of the struggle and indeed  the  ultimate
determinant  of  the winner of the primal dual between them.  We  possess
free will, and thus can choose one or the other.

                        NINE DAYS TO THE NEW AGE?
    Writer and  researcher Eugene Johnson of Dallas, Texas has produced a
fascinating manuscript entitled_Ancient_Mexican_Prophecy_for_the_New_Age.
In it he links  the Central American prophecies  to the persistent legend
of Atlantis - a continent  that,  according  to  myth, was located in the
middle of what we know today as the Atlantic Ocean.  Johnson believes At-
lantis  was  the  home port of Noah and of other boat people who survived
the great flood  which is remembered in many cultures as having destroyed
the World before this  one,  the world of the Fourth Sun in Aztec termin-
ology.  When Atlantis went under, those who  were  wise and good are said
to have escaped in boats and eventually to have  seeded the future civil-
izations  of  Europe, Egypt, the Orient and the Americas.  "The  Mayans,"
Johnson writes, "apparently established themselves  on  the Yucatan Penn-
insula with an already highly developed civilization..."
    Many researchers theorize that those ancient  American cultures had a
prophetic sense that their new world would  one  day also come to an end.
Those beliefs, they say, are encoded in the  architecture of the pyramids
and in the mathematical symbols on the calendars.
    In his manuscript, Johnson writes that the city of Teotihuacan, a few
miles  northeast  of  Mexcio  city,  served for thousands of years as the
primary seat of learning and religious ceremony for the Americas.  At its
zenith around 600 AD, it was probably the largest city in the world.  The
name Teotihuacan means "birthplace of the gods." According to legend, the
city and its elegant pyramids  were  built  at the beginging of the Fifth
Sun, after the Atlantean cataclysm, to  commemorate the start of that new
age, and to set forth in its  design  and  proportions  a prophecy of the
spiritual plan for the generations to come.   Teotihuacan is said to be a
power center, connected by ley (energy) lines to thousands  of other holy
sites  around  the world such as Stonehenge, Mystery Hill, Machu  Picchu,
and  the Egyptian Pyramids.  Johnson says this city, with its  mysterious
ceremonial  pyramids,  will  be  a  primary  focal  point  for the subtle
energies which  will  infuse  the Earth this summer during the transition
from the Fifth Sun to the World of the Sixth Sun.
    No one knows for sure what  the new world cycle will bring, according
to Johnson.  But he does indulge in  some cautious speculation; "it's un-
reasonable  to  expect  that  suddenly, in 1987, the diseased  conditions
which plague the world will evaporate leaving us in a  blissful  state of
perfection.  The world must go through a 'cleansing' of some sort to open
up sufficient space for new development to begin." According to his manu-
script, the first  critical  period  of  the  prophecy  spans  nine days,
starting at sunrise Sunday,  August  16, and concluding with the New Moon
on August 24.  What may occur then, he says, is similar to the biological
phenomenon  of ontogeny recapitualating phylogeny, wherein the life cycle
of an organism repeats in a greatly compressed time period the evolution-
ary  history  of the species.  In other words, as he  puts  it,  "perhaps
these  nine  days of August '87 will somehow recapitualate the preceeding
468 years  of  history,  serving as a 'gestation' phase, if you will, for
the embryonic development of the new age."
     The nine days begin  a 25 year cycle when the energies which are re-
leased will be, according to Johnson  and  others, intensified and accel-
erated.  The keynote for this prophetic period  is a crisis in conscious-
ness,  a period of intense spiritual action.  "It  could  mean,"  Johnson
writes, "that the exsisting ways of thinking, relating, and communicating
are no longer satisfactory for  the  new conditions ...  The prophecy may
relate to a broad, perhaps global, process  of  completion  and spiritual
transformation, and further may point to a critical time when humanity as
a whole is initiated into a higher level of maturity and consciuosness.

                           HARMONIC CONVERGENCE
    In  his  recently published book entitled _The_Mayan_Factor:_Path_Be-
yond_Technology_, poet  and  visionary Jose Arguelles, Ph.D., sets out an
elaborate interpretation of  the events prophesied in the Mayan claendar.
Arhuelles says that since  the  begining of what he calls the Great Mayan
Cycle, we have been passing  slowly through a beam of cosmic energy 5,125
years wide.  That beam of  energy,  he  writes, is intended to accelerate
the  vibratory  rate of subtle energies on  earth  and  bring  them  into
harmony with the galaxy.  This summer, he  says,  we shift into the final
stage of that acceleration, a radical quickening of energy and conscious-
ness that will last 25 years until December 21, 2011 -  the final date in
the  prophetic Mayan Calender.  At that time, according to Arguelles, our
galactic synchronization will be complete.  Whatever parts of our civili-
zation have survived the  transition  will be in harmony with the galaxy.
We will have found a  path  that  allows  us  to go beyond the limits and
perils of the machine age by blending spirit with technology.
    One  critical moment in this transition, Arguelles  says,  occurs  at
sunrise on the morning of Sunday, August 16.  That  begins  what he calls
"harmonic convergence,"  the  time  when acceleration process begins with
the release of potent  cosmic  energies  intended to bring the earth into
harmony with the rest of the galaxy.  Arguelles is organizing multi-media
arts festivals around the world to  celebrate  this  event,  and  to help
create focal points for the arrival of the cosmic impulse.
    According to Arguelles, from the moment of  that  August  sunrise for
five intense years, the world will undergo transformative chaos, the cli-
max  of  the  seemingly disaterous and dynamically corrupt materialism of
the industrial world.  This global chaos, he writes, is likely to include
the collapse and regrouping of  the  major  governments, as well as dein-
dustrialization, and demilitarization. "But," he adds, "it  is  precisely
at the climax of matter, A.D.  1987-1992, the fateful moment of material-
ism's full ripeness,  that  the  highest  and  culminating purpose of the
entire historical cycle reveals itself."
    This  new revelation, or  paradigm,  Arguelles  says,  is  a  unified
planetary consciuosness, marked by an  inspired  and  illumined humanity.
He believes all this will happen by  1992,  when  the  process  of trans-
formative chaos will have stabilized and the world will be freer to focus
its energies on preparing for the final harmonic convergence in 2011.

                          RIGHT NOW IN OUR HEARTS
    Tony Shearer, a member of the Lakota Indian nation, is a noted author
lecturer and performer.   Since  1965,  when his grandfather Harry Flying
Horse presented him with a  talismanic  flute, he has travelled the world
to sound this mystery in music and story.    With passion - but with com-
mercials and a lack of context - he spoke  before  a Boston audience this
spring.  He told of his dreams and his visions  of  Quetzalcoatal and the
calendars  of Central America.  He also spoke resonantly of the  Tree  of
Life in Oaxaca, Mexico, a tree he knew and climbed as a boy.   "The Ency-
clopedia Brittanica says that tree is 2,000 years old," Shearer says,"but
it's really over 6,000 years old."
    According to Central American  prophecy the Tree of Life - which is a
Sabino, an ancestor of the Redwoods - will wither and perish as the world
of the Fifth Sun comes to an  end.    "I've seen it," Shearer says, "it's
gigantic and it's beautiful and it's dying now.  When it's dead that will
be the proof of the new world."
    Tony Shearer is filled with hope for what may  blossom.    He exhorts
those who fear his tale to take "one step" toward  the  beauty  which  is
possible.   "What lies in out future," he says, "lies right  now  in  our
hearts."

                            THE AGE OF FLOWERS
    Vermont resident  Dhyani  Ywahoo, a respected Cherokee teacher who is
the 27th generation  of  her family to carry forward sacred teachings and
also an acknowledged master  of  Tibetan  Buddhism, says that many native
Americans are paying close attention  to  the transition described by the
calendar.  "This age ending has been a time when people have gathered in-
formation about building and inventions to make life better.   Now is for
people to recognize that the inventions are a creation of mind and to put
aside  such  inventions as cause harm, and to bring forth and further de-
velop those activities that  benefit  all  beings  and benefit the future
generations."
    "We are moving around  the  spiral,  coming again to a place of whole
civilization, of true  panetary  consciousness.   What we see now are the
fever throes, the end of  the fever's nightmares as the sickness and poi-
sons leave the system.  And just  how  well  the  culture,  the people go
through  this time is really dependent upon the  calling  of  the  light,
because  in a time of purification the light makes clear  the  places  of
darkness."
    "How much the planet will suffer, how much the people will suffer, is
really determined by consciousness of groups.  It is no longer at  matter
of individuals just finding  the  light  within  themselves;  it's really
necessary to establish a network,  to  rebuild those areas of the earths'
web that have benn harmed by unclear thinking."
    "Ultimately, it just takes 144,000 people out of the entire planet to
transmute  it - it's the same number  as  in  the  Book  of  Revelations.
That's because numbers are real, number are tones,  numbers are sound and
dimension.  And the frequency of 144,000 cna turn and set free the anger,
the demons of people's fear and transform it so that people are no longer
harassed by the energy of war."
    "In 1983 the Elders told me 'the tide has turned Dhyani.    There are
enough  people  doing  good  medicine  to  prevent the destruction of the
Earth.' Many  people  are taking the right steps to look at the nature of
their own minds  and  to find a stability and to seek good relationships,
and to be responsible  in  word, thought, and action.  This is making the
difference."
    So as Dhyani sees it, come  August we start a new calendar.  "Accord-
ing to the way we are taught,  and  the seeds that are being planted, the
calendar is to manifest peace, an age of  peace.  The elders have asked -
this is a large Council of Elders, so they speak  to  Central  and  North
American people - that the morning after every full moon at  about ten AM
that we gather flowers and that we go outside and we look  to the sun, to
the  flowers, and to the heart of the earth.  In so doing we  bring  more
solar  energy and flower wisdom to the earth, because the next age is the
Age of Flowers."
    "Flowers give  light and joy," Dyhani says.  "They also have a subtle
consciousness.  They have a unity of mind.  The flower energy is peacful,
and flowers are great  medicine.   By meditation on flowers we can reduce
the inflammation caused by aggressive habits  of  mind.   Flowers are our
medicine for the next age."

                            SWIFTDEER'S VISION
    An American Indian named Harley Swiftdeer lectures  frequently on the
teaching and visions of the Intertribal Medicine Societies.  According to
Swiftdeer, these societies believe that in 1987 we will  be  blessed when
144,000  Sun Dance enlightened teachers awaken in their dream mind-bodies
and become a major force of the Light.  A Sun  Dance teacher is any human
being  who  has  awakened,  who honors all paths, all teachers, all ways.
"On August 17, 1987," Swiftdeer has said, "Rainbow Lights will be seen in
dreams  all  over the world and those Rainbow Light dreamers will help to
awaken the rest of humanity."

                              CEREMONIAL TIME
    We live  in  a  world  awash with the pulsations of spiritual energy.
Clamors and illusions greet us at every turn, ranging from fundamental to
romantic to occult.  We need not leave out TV's to know that our world is
filled with a confusion of prophets  and teachings and apocaltptic decla-
mations. What are we to make of this one?
    Consider the context.  This mythology and prophecy, overlooked for so
long, comes to the fore in a time  when issues of Central American policy
occupys a critical place in public consciousness - a time when Mexico and
all  of Central America are in ecomonical and sociel unrest.   The  scene
appears  set  for something dramatic tohappen.  All that is necessary, it
seems, is a catalyst.
    This feverish interest  in  the  pyramids  of  Central America arises
within one year of  a  major  discovery in Egypt.  Using laser technology
(light), archaeologists have discovered a  network of mysterious unopened
chambers making up at least 15 percent of the Great Pyramid of Giza.  Ex-
plorers have yet to gain access to thos chambers to see what secrets they
may hold, but the time may well be at hand.
    So  much anguish, so much uncertainty attend this late stage  in  the
atomic  millenium.   Powerful energies are already at work in the  world.
Whether taking cues from the nightly news, the Bible, the Sphinx or outer
space,  most  people  have come to feel that we live in a time of  trans-
ition. But transition to what?
    No one  will  know for sure, of course, until we get  wherever  we're
going.  But many people on many paths have dedicated their lives to help-
ing  steer  planet  Earth  toward a higher destiny, a spiritual  destiny.
Thousands  will  be  using the prophesied shift to the Age of  Flowers  -
whether that shift be a real event or just a working hypothesis -  to en-
gage in spiritual  action  consecrated  to  the  healing  of our troubled
world.
    Around the nation and  around the globe, perhaps 144,000 or more will
greet the World of the  Sixth  Sun  at sunrise on August 16, and at other
inspired moments during the nine-day transition.   For some that greeting
will be a gesture as simple as  a  flower meditation, while for others it
will  be an elaborate mystical ceremony on a  mountain  top  or  at  some
sacred site.  All will be seeking some creative  way  to  commemorate the
end of a long period with hard lessons.  All  will  be reaching for a way
to  draw down spiritual influences that can help humanity to begin  again
at a higher turn of the veolutionary spiral.  They will be  dreaming  for
rainbows. They will be praying for blossoms.

(Author Steven S.H.  McFadden is a teacher, a writer and a gardener.   He
makes his home near The Grand Monadnock).

     This is getting to be more interesting as we go!I just realized
    that in areading i had done several years ago it said i was to be
    one of the 144,000 told of in the bible!Also i have noticed a
    significant increase in my psychic energy.I am able to use the ouija
    board with one hand by myself!Also my wife told me of a dream she
    had which was many colored lights.And the other night when i was
    talking to my spirit contact he asked me what all the red lights
    were for(there wasnt any of course).He said they were in the room
    with us.Wow!This could be an exciting and revealing time coming
    up!Anyone else have any similar observations?
    
    
    MIKE

    RE: 418.5
    I just attended a lecture last week by Steven McFadden on THE AGE
    OF FLOWERS at Joya's Book Store in Fitchburg.  It was quite
    informative.  I'll be celebrating the coming of the new age at Mystery
    Hill in Salem, N.H.
    

Re: .1 There was indeed a meeting of the Hopi and Aborigines. It was
quite interesting I was told. 
       I attended a Medicine Wheel Gathering in New York this June. We
will be building a Medicine Wheel in Lunenburg on August 9th (the full
moon) in preparartion for convergence. Native Americans have been
observing earth changes and have been preparing for some time.

Re: .7 I was at Joya's also. I noticed your Digital badge and heard you
make reference to Notes files. I met Steve the previous Sunday at a
meeting of the New England Area Bear Tribe, where he also spoke on the
Age of Flowers. 

     If anyone is interested in learning more about Native American
spirituality, or in observing or participating in a Medicine Wheel, send
mail and I will send you some info.

Jay

    I just hope that we have enough time before the Children Of The
    Dark begin the dance of destruction in the Persian Gulf.

<-- re -1
Interesting. When you attended Steve Mcfadden's talk at Joya's, do you
remember the reporter/astrologer who stood up and gave his preditcion on
the Persain Gulf? He said based on occurances he saw in 1985 that would
be recreated in 1987, he predicted that there would be a conflict in the
Persian Gulf on September 1. He stated what the astrological conditions
were to be, but not being an astrologist it went right by me.

    
    Good grief! Was *everybody* at Steve's talk from DEC? I'll have
    to start wearing my badge around!
    
    It's interesting that the new age coming is the sixth, as is the
    seal being broken in the reference in the Revelation. What is the
    span of an age? Are we in the Atlantean age right now? That would
    place the span at about 10,000 years...I'd like to try to correlate
    historical events in 10,000-year blocks with the seals in the
    Revelation.
    
    Perry
    

      There is also talk on the spirit plain about this new age.A rumor
    about having something to do with the Earths rotation.Anyone hear
    anything about this or any changes in the Earths cycles?
    
    MIKE

    Yes, I was at Joya's too_:-) ... 
    
    Now that I think about it the astrologer did reference Sept 1, but
    not being an adept in astrology I've forgotten his exact references. 
    The Hopi prophesies contain reference to the fifth world (I believe)
    ending and the sixth beginning .... another reference to the sixth
    world?

    
    
    
    I just remembered something...in note 362.7 (End-of-the-world dreams),
    I mentioned a dream I had some years ago where four globes were
    descending in the sky before me and exploding - they were the planet
    Earth.  Could this relate in any way to the prophecies of this being
    the fifth world and my dream symbolically showed the end of the
    previous four worlds?   Hmm...
    
    Carole
    

    Or it could relate to the 4 angels holding back the winds, prior
    to the sealing of the 144,000.

    I think this is pretty humorous....So far I think there were 3 or
    4 of us "digits" at Joya's that night and we didn't even realize
    it at the time.  I'm the redhead that attended with the rather large,
    good looking Italian.  His name is Joe DeCaria and he teaches
    meditation Thursday nite at Joya's.  Anyway, I just thought it was
    funny.  Small world I guess!
    

    As I am new to New England, I am unfamiliar with Mystery Hill. 
    Would someone please enlighten me as to the story behind this place
    and perhaps how to find it?
    
    

    
    Just for ID, I was the fellow at Joya's with a full beard that had
    a small tape recorder running near Steve's desk.
    
    Perry
    

I sat in the first row, right in front of the desk. Directly to my left
was my wife, Penny and to her left was Betsy Browne who runs the New
England chapter of the Bear Tribe.

re -.2  I know Joe from a looong time ago.

Jay

P.S. That makes four of us!

    Re: 418.8
    
    Mystery Hill is in Salem, New Hampshire.  For more information you
    can call them  (603) 893-8300.  They are located on Rt. 111 in Salem.
    To get there would depend on where you were coming from.  If you'd
    be traveling from say Rt. 2, you'd take:
    
    495 north to 93 north
    
    from 93 north you'd take the exit marked Salem  Rt. 28
    
    When you get to Rt. 28 there is a traffic light.  Take a left at
    the traffic light and follow that to Rt. 111.  Once you're that
    close, they have signs directing you to it.  
    
    It's in the same area as Canobie Lake Park.
    
    The best way to get as much info as you'd like is to call them.
    If I can be of further help, let me know.
    
    Have a nice day!!!
    

    That makes five of us... I was over on the couch.  
    
    Joe was telling me about Mystery Hill too (grew up in the same
    neighborhood_:-) apparently its called "the American Stonehendge".
    I'd like to know more too if anyone has any additional detail.
    

The following was taken from one of Bob Monroe's early "Explorer sessions".
It relates to the coming changes. One wonders what the individual who touched 
energy must have felt at the time. I enter in here for your consideration.

			==================

    Blessed are they who seek me. In seeking me, their long period of 
forgetfulness is coming to an end. They are awakening to who they truly 
are - a living part of me, manifesting life and radiating love.
    You have forgotten to look for me, much less gaze upon my countenance, 
oh, ye of little faith. There are countless numbers who live in the 
expectancy of my coming. In truth, I never left.
    Let him who has ears to hear, let him hear, now.
    You seek me amidst your blindness. You look upon me without recognition, 
You touch my hand and know not whom you have touched.
    You proclaim my name and my teachings as it suits you and the occasion. 
Awaken, behold the reality of my being that is among you.
    I am the earthquake, wind, and fire.
    I am the still small voice piercing the thunderous tumult.
    I am the peace beyond all understanding.
    I am the light that guides all men to the Father.
    I am the love that overcometh all things.
    I am the light that illumines the minds of men. I am the the sustenance of 
men's souls.
    I am your life and you are my own.
    I am the very breath you breathe.
    We are one in the Father.
    Do not despair, I will never leave thee nor forsake the, nor can you truly 
forsake me, for we are one.
    Let the old way be gone. It must die and its ashes be blown to the four 
corners of the earth. The new is emerging but you must change your
perspective. Do not look for me in the form of a man. The time is not yet.
But look for me in the life that speaks to you in your everyday activities.
You have looked amiss.
    I have no limitations and am not bound by physical dimensions.
    I defy logic and am beyond your conceptual imaginings.
    I live and move and have my being in all there is. You have sought me 
amiss.
    My countenance is seen within each face of my Father's creation. 
Look upon your brother and see my face. 
    Bend over a still pool. Do not be deceived. The image that you see 
reflected is my own.
    Do you not see the truth now?
    Learn of me. Take within your hand a leaf, a stone, a drop of water, 
and know that nothing exists that does not contain me.
    Have you not known that I am eternal life and therefor recognize 
neither the past not the future? Only the now, that is. Live in the now, 
with me.
    I stand in the light, as you stand in the light. But you do not know of 
your light. I am here to show you that your light and my light are one and
the same. Once you recognize this divine light to be a part of all that is,
will you then begin to understand your own relationship to life, to your
creator, and thereby to your own sonship eternal.
    I neither slumber nor sleep and you must learn that your soul neither 
slumbers nor sleeps. Once you realize this, you are aware of your spiritual
vitality and wakefulness to your higher consciousness. In so knowing you will 
understand that I am truly closer than your hands and feet. In this
knowing, in this knowledge, we are one.
    Live in truth. Be truth. Live in beauty. Become an artist in living.
    Live in me and let me express you.
    I reside in all space and no space, all time and no time.
    Once you turn and become a part of my reality, all power is restored
unto you. This is the power that makes you one with all things. This is
the power that will set you free.
    My children, abide in me.

        I just found out today that Lazaris will be giving a talk on
    this Harmonic Convergence on Sunday night, August 16 in San Francisco
    and on August 17 in Los Angeles.  I did not attend the 2-day which
    concluded yesterday but apparently Lazaris said that there is a
    great deal of misinformation about this convergence.  As I intend
    to attend, I will report the outcome on Monday (assuming I am still
    here at DEC.)  The following is the information available on the
    flyer which I received today:
      
     An incredibly powerful evening...A once-in-a-lifetime experience...
              HARMONIC CONVERGENCE WITH LAZARIS!
          [The Ritual of Emergence]
      
    Harmonic Convergence culminating on August 16th and 17th, 1987,
    is a time of beginning.  According to the Mayan Calendar, it is
    a time of accelerated growth on every level of consciousness.  It
    is a time to draw together--to converge--your intention, your resolve,
    and your power!
      
    On each of these two evenings, Lazaris will discuss the fuller meaning
    and significance of Harmonic Convergence and how to make use of
    the energy that will be celebrated all over the world.
      
    Many have encouraged you to gather together in high energy spaces
    on these days.  Lazaris invites you to come spend this time with
    him as he conducts a most powerful and most high ritual of emergence.
      
    Harmonic Convergence is a time to renew your Personal and World
    Vision.  Step forth and demand the future you desire!  Step forth
    from the darkness of your own fears and doubts into the Light of
    a positive future!
      
    You are a Spark of Consciousness--a Spark of Love and Light.  Combine
    your illumination with the many Sparks who will be gathering
    (converging) with Lazaris in either San Francisco or Los Angeles
    to participate together in a ritual that Lazaris has prepared
    specifically for this time of Harmonic Convergence.
      
    It will be an incredibly powerful evening...a once-in-a-lifetime
    experience...
    
       
    
    
    
    Frederick
    

Where are people spending Aug. 16th and what will you be doing?  I don't
know yet.  I'm hoping to get some idea from responses to this.  I would
like to be doing something constructive for the occaision.

		Dave

Re .26

We will be meditating at sunrise, probably near a newly lit fire.
We will do the same thing on the 17th to welcome the new age.

I have a copy of an interview with Jose Arguelles, from _Meditation_Magazine_
written by John-Alexis Viereck. I am trying to get some excerpts together
to post here. It's an excellent article.

From it Jose suggests ritual...

Ritual Ceremony for Harmonic Convergence

The Hundreth Monkey.. simply put is the belief that when a critical mass
of humanity arrives at a common vision and resolve ... the "idea" will
leap through the imagination of a significant majority of the human race.

The core minimum requirement for phase shift is 144,000 self-selected
humans. Twelve days of purification will be culminated by two days of
ceremony.

"On sunrise August 16, following the dawnbreak new fire lighting ceremony,
principle emissaries at key planetary points lay down their bodies in
circular formation. Heads toward the fire, feet outward, on their backs
gazing skywards. These emissaries constitute the first wave of of humans
to surrender control thus allowing terrestrial hierachy to assert
harmonic command. Rendering unto the heirarcy all ego control the
emissaries chant the new world into being."

"...on the morning of August 17, everywhere on the planet Harmonic
Convergence Circles [of dancers] will be rotating counter-clockwise. The
drum beats will carry throughout the earth. ... the circles will continue
through the morning to dance to the steady drumbeat, arousing, causing
others to assemble and join the dance."

....I would type more, but gotta run... more later
Jay

    Down under we will be meeting around 8pm Eastern Standard Time at
    a Centre near Sydney.  For $5 donation we can watch a video, have
    a group discussion and group meditation at precisely 10pm est, then
    music and drinks to follow.
    
    There is a dawn beach meeting near my place but have to find out
    final details.
    
    ....dale

    
    Since I believe this is just another fad, I will not be doing anything
    special at all on either of those two days.
    
    /Bevin

    Reply to .30; Brett,
    
    Spoilsport!  B^)

    If that's a monday I'll have to work.  I'll be think Kozmic thoughts
    though.

Re: < Note 418.30 by TLE::BRETT >

That's ok too. At least 144,00 others got you covered.

    Regardless of the "fad" status,  I've decided to greet the sun on
    the 16th out on my balcony, with a special meditation session, and
    allowing the energy to flow through me, and connect with the other
    143,999(+) of us.    
    
    Sheila
    

    
    
    You know, even if this whole thing is a bunch of c**p, it certainly
    can't hurt the world and us if lots of people are up with the sun
    on August 16th and sending/receiving positive, peaceful and
    accepting thoughts.  I plan to be at Mystery Hill in Salem, N.H.
    with many others and will be thinking of all of you (including
    you, Bevin :-))
    
    Carole
    

    I plan to note the exact time I first open my eyes on the morning
    of the 16th and cast a horary chart for the moment, then reflect
    on its influence for my own natal chart.  I am most curious to see
    what I will find.
    
    Even though there are no "traditionally significant" astrological 
    correspondences that I can find for the world at large that day, 
    (or maybe I lack the necessary knowledge to know what is truly 
    significant) I have noticed that many who have been coming for 
    readings lately (as well as myself) are having very significant outer 
    planet transits in August, transits that indicate a time of
    consciousness raising and/or creative realizations.
    
    Many of us (I feel) struggle for years to balance the mundane and 
    sacred impulses and activities in our lives and souls.  Some of us 
    give up that struggle, embracing one or the other impulse wholly; 
    some give lip service of a kind to both while keeping our own private 
    counsel on the matter.  I have a feeling that this is a time when 
    many can figure out what that balance should be for them, and how to 
    manifest it in the material world their own special ways.
    
    And as Carole says, positive thinking never hurt, and just might
    help.  It, and life, is really what you make it.
    
    Marcia

re .0
>	I found this extract in the midsummer edition of 'Anima' magazine
>published in Glastonbury, England:

>			      =-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Open Letter to 144,000 Rainbow Humans.  Presumed channelled, source unknown.

According to a special issue of _EroSpirit_, published in Albuquerque
NM June '87, the letter was written by Jose Arguelles (who coined the
term Harmonic Convergence) and was dated February 28, 1987.

Jay

    
    Re.0 - Trust, Understanding and Acceptance
    
    I'd just like to mention here that within the last 4 months, there
    seems to be this incredible sense of trust among many people that
    I either know personally or indirectly through one other person.  
    
    The information which is being exchanged is of the kind which one
    would be afraid of telling another person for fear that the receiver 
    of the information may not understand them or that they will disclose
    the secret to someone else, or the secret will be met with ridicule. 
    
    It seems to be a chain link of some sort encircling the globe, because
    the person I first told (wrote) my secret to lives on the other side 
    of the world.  He understood me so completely that I was overwhelmed 
    with his ability to so totally comprehend what I had said (or in this 
    case, written).  From that I gained the trust and the confidence to 
    share information/secrets/life experiences with other select people, 
    and in each case this opened them up to feel that they could trust me 
    with a secret of theirs.  In every case, healing occurred - on both 
    sides, though in very different ways.  Also, in every case, it seemed 
    to be that all people involved managed to regain either parts or all 
    of their self-confidence which had been repressed for a very long time 
    and also managed to get over some or all of their prior fears based 
    on past bad experiences where they had trusted other people and were 
    betrayed.
           
    On additional observation - in every case, it seems like all of
    the people involved either have taken, or are taking an inventory of 
    their lives and feelings and how they are/were being treated, and from
    that have made the conscious decision to not to continue to settle for 
    anything less than they feel they deserve, in terms of being treated 
    well by other people, especially those people who are close to them.
    
    We all agree, without exception, that something is definitely
    happening.  It is a very powerful healing force.  If the observations 
    above are any indication of what is to come, then it will be truly 
    wonderful indeed!
    
    Cindy
      

    My feelings are that as we get closer to the year 2000 there are
    more and more people walking in the light!
    
    This being the case then it is more unlikely that whatever dark
    is out there will have a chance of gaining control.  The seasons
    are gradually changing, the weather is unpredictable, etc.  So as
    long as we can all pull together on the 16th 17th and whenever it
    will help.
    
    Interesting to note that down under Ayers Rock is a major energy
    point and most of us meditating direct all enery to this area....
    
    See you all on the Sunday and Monday, so to speak.
    
    ....dale
    
    

    RE .26 
    
    The following is from Genesis, a Universal Teacher. It suggests 
    some ways to enhance these days.
    
                                ----------
    	A MESSAGE TO THE SOULS GATHERING UPON THE EARTH
    		     ON AUGUST 16 - 17, 1987
        
         During the full moon of August 16 - 17, the quality of 
    energy upon the earth will be heightened. As the sun rises on 
    August 16, the earth will become flooded with a beam of light, 
    marking the passageway into the Aquarian Age. It is of 
    profound significance that those in service of the Universe 
    greet this Light with full consciousness and an open heart. 
    This is the Energy that carries the intelligence and the 
    guidance for the PHYSICAL manifestation of the Age of Light. 
    As such, this Energy will ignite great changes upon your 
    earth. The way of Light will build in power, uniting groups of 
    people all over your earth.
    
         During the past two decades, the currents of energies 
    coming into the earth's system of life have been directed 
    toward the profound activity of these two days. In order to 
    enter the next millennium in the fullest potential of your 
    consciousness, it has been necessary for many of you - indeed,
    for most of you - to release the parts of yourselves and your 
    lives that would make the years following the August shift of 
    energy intensely difficult. For many of you, it seems as 
    though the traumas and upsets of your lives would never end, 
    and that the reasons for all of these changes would remain a 
    mystery to you.
    
         All of you have been and continue to be guided into 
    positions - both internally and externally - in which you can 
    most be of service to your earth now. The activities of 
    cleansing, so long prophesized, shall move with greater 
    rapidness across the lands of your earth. Whatever lingered 
    (or lingers) in your lives that prevents your capacity to 
    respond to the call to support Life, whether that block be a 
    perception, a limiting geographic location, or a relationship, 
    has to be released from your paths.
         
         Those enterprises that would continue to divide your 
    earth and its peoples will now begin to lose force rapidly. 
    The nonphysical world of guides and teachers will move even 
    closer to the physical world, desiring to expand the channels 
    of communication between levels of consciousness. More and 
    more people will come to know their connection to the Divine 
    Intelligence as this world of yours becomes reshaped to 
    reflect a higher order of meaning, purpose and life.
    
         Preparations need to be taken in order that one's body, 
    mind and spirit be made completely receptive to this current. 
    Begin with the physical body. The change in the frequency of 
    light will have an effect on all forms of matter. As a 
    different current of light enters the physical form, the 
    entire physical form needs to be recalibrated in order to 
    accommodate the energy. This is not unlike shifting from a 
    toxic diet to a balanced, whole nutritional program. The 
    physical body - if it is in any way toxic - may undergo 
    detoxification. Likewise, those areas of the earth that are 
    toxic can be expected to begin a detoxification process.
    
         Certain steps can be taken in order to cleanse the 
    physical body prior to the August 16th date:
    
         1. Begin releasing yourself from food products which 
    contain chemicals.
    
         2. Create a nutritional program which is primarily fruit, 
    vegetables, grains and dairy products. The intent is to allow 
    your physical system to become as vibrationally light as 
    possible. Remain on this light nutritional regime from dawn 
    August 15 through dawn, August 18.
    
         3. Release unnecessary drugs. Release tobacco products. 
    Consumption of alcohol should be reduced to a very low minimum 
    or released completely. From August 15 through the 17th, no 
    alcohol or drugs should be consumed whatsoever. The human 
    system must not be drugged or unconscious during this Sacred 
    time.
    
         4. Observe Friday evening through Monday evening as a 
    time in which the priorities are those of the heart. The 
    quality of the energy upon your earth during these days will 
    be exceptional. Do not dispense it carelessly, such as might 
    happen if you were to get caught up in a traffic jam or spend 
    the day shopping. This is a time of alignment, of heightened 
    awareness and of introspection. This is also a time of 
    celebration, of lightness, of being with people close to the 
    heart. A solemn attitude is unnecessary.
    
                       PROCEDURES FOR MEDITATION
    
    Sunrise: Sunday, August 16, 1987
    
         Gather with your close family/friends with whom your bond 
    is intimate. Greet the dawn light, the beginning of this  Age 
    of Light, seated in a circle. Hold each other's hands and 
    visualize yourselves as one unit of life and energy, As the 
    dawn comes, consciously bring the new vibration into your 
    awareness: body, mind and spirit. In this way, you are 
    honoring your connection to each other as spirits who have 
    chosen paths of service together. you are forming one column 
    of energy, one unit of force - allowing the delicate current 
    of energy to collectively penetrate your life systems.
    
         The focus of this meditation is specific: it is a time of 
    consciously releasing patterns operating within your life that 
    you do not wish to bring with you into the years to come. The 
    patterns in your life that limit you in any way, that prevent 
    you from being a loving human being, should be focused upon 
    and released into the energy of this dawning time on August 16.
    
    Evening: Sunday
    
         This is a time of celebration, of recognizing and joyfully 
    embracing the spiritual journeys you share with each other. 
    This is an evening to spend with your extended spiritual 
    tribes. Come together with the intentions of knowing that your 
    time is now upon the earth: the hour so long predicted has 
    come. The meditation should begin as the moon begins to rise. 
    During this meditation, it is important that each human being 
    focus on his/her commitment to service and to living in 
    harmony with all the kingdoms of the earth. Know that during 
    this time, you will be setting in motion patterns that will 
    guide you from that point forward into the next millennium. It 
    is not necessary to be specific in terms of your commitment: it 
    is sufficient to commit yourself to harmony, to life, to being 
    a loving force upon the earth.
    
         Following the silent meditation, if sharing with each 
    other seems appropriate to your group, then do so.
    
    Monday, August 17th. 1987
    
         The energy of this day should be directed toward putting 
    in motion the positive patterns of support that will strengthen 
    your spiritual lives. The energy of this day is that of newness, 
    beginning, empowerment, cleansing, liberation. Use it wisely.
    
         Before August 17, take time to appraise your spiritual 
    practice. Become mindful of what levels of discipline or 
    awareness need to be entered into in order to move forward on 
    your path. Commit to those practices on this day.
    
         If you are involved in any form of healing your physical 
    body, focus on the fullness of health on this day. Visualize 
    your physical body as returning to a natural state of health 
    and balance. The energies on this day will be dynamically 
    empowered to assist the healing of the physical levels of life. 
    
         During these days of Light upon your earth, take time to 
    realize and appreciate those souls with whom you are 
    journeying, living and serving in this lifetime. These bonds 
    are not accidents; you are with each other because of 
    agreements to empower the earth, life and one another during 
    this period of time upon your earth.
    
         Learn to live in harmony with each other. Learn to live in 
    the realization that within the Universal Consciousness, there 
    are no secrets. All is known. Strive to live your lives with 
    such openness and love that the fear of one another - and of 
    the precious experience of life upon your planet - finally 
    dissolves.

re .39
>                                                        The seasons
>   are gradually changing, the weather is unpredictable, etc.

Just an observation... three people yesterday, independantly pointed out
three things. 1) roadside weeds that normally change color in the fall
(turn purple, she called them purple spike things?) are already changing
color. 2) someone else said that wild flowers in her yard that usually 
blossom in the fall are already in blossom. 3) my wife pointed out to me
that the pumpkin in our garden is already 90% orange and said that they
don't normally change color 'til the first frost.

The first 2 I can't attest to as I can't say that I noticed. But I did
notice the pumpkin turning orange and thought that was odd. I understand
these things normally to occur as temperature and the amount of daylight
change. Coincidence? Weather? Accelerated energy??? Who knows?
Jay

    
    
    RE: .40
    
    Hi Bill,
    
    Thanks for entering the information - the guidelines will be
    very helpful.
    
    Regards, Carole
    

    RE .42
    
    Things with the weather?!
    
    My SO and I were talking about that last night as we walked around
    the yard.  There are some wild flowers that are dying.  There are
    some trees that seem to be just hanging on.  They look like poplar
    and it is a definite possibility that they could be diseased.
    
    There are a lot of pines in out yard and some ground greens (I am
    sorry that I don't know the name of these little plants, but you
    can find them in almost any forest or woods here in New england)
    are changing color.  They are ahead of their time!  It shouldn't
    be happening for another month -at least!  These little greens begin
    to change when the leaves do.
    
    i'll have to take another walk and see what other things I find.
    Whatever IS happening to the environment, it seems very strange.
    
    Leigh

    re .42,.44
    
    	I wouldn't read too much into it. I notice both of you are from
    	N.E. - we've had several cold nights and very little rain lately.
    
    	How about the rest of the world? Anybody out there notice anything
    	strange?
    
    		Robert.

    Really, since you asked...
    
    We've been having 95-97 degree days with HIGH humidity, so I
    was surprised to see some yellow Maple leaves (a lot!) falling
    to the ground.
    
    Theresa.

    Re: .40 and some of the earlier notes:
    
    How do you know if you are one of the "chosen"?  Although what seems
    to matter is that you are open to the experience and keep learning..
    
    Lately (within the past 3-4 months) I have been writing again, and
    discovering or re-discovering things that delight me--hobbies, people,
    new knowledge.  I have also begun using crystals, and reading about
    them.  For the past year I have had a compulsion;  almost like a
    physical push to learn sign language--I have no idea why.  But I
    bought a book, and plan to enroll in the fall.  There must be some
    reason I'm going to need it!  I have also set goals (personal ones),
    that I review day and night.  Although I still retain some old bad
    habits, I have developed new healthier habits, and feel much more
    attuned to my life, God, the earth, and other people than I ever
    have before.  The best way to describe it is freedom from fear.
    I have also been spending a lot of time and energy on changing my
    career path from technical support to teaching (I teach at nights,
    and decided around March of this year I wanted to do it fulltime
    here)--matter of fact, I've amazed myself at my own persistance
    at it!  I also am aware of a greater feeling of personal freedom;
    less likely to run myself down, more satisfied with myself, my looks,
    my attitudes, etc.  
    
    I wonder--do all these things signal a change in me that has been
    triggered by the great forces coming into play at this time?
    
    By the way, Aug. 16 is my fiance's birthday, so the day will probably
    have golf in it somewhere!  However, I generally start my days with
    some floor exercise and stretching, then a long walk.  During the
    walk I say my prayers, and just generally thank God for all I've
    been given.  So this seems to fit in with what others will be doing.
    It's been great to hear what-all people plan to do--as others have
    said, this can only be good for us, so why not be a part of it?
    We can't all be meditating, etc., etc.,, but we CAN be conscious
    of what is happening, and be aware that we are all a part of it.
    Hopefully the Age of Flowers will be a rennaisance of sorts for
    our poor old earth.
    
    Best wishes to everyone,
    
    Jane
    
    

    re:.40
    
    One thing we all should know about is on 16th-17th of August, the
    moon is not new or full - it is in quarter full. 
    
    					-ps

<--- That's correct. The moon is full on the 9th and will wane to new,
which is on the 24th. That marks the ending of the 9 day transition which
begins on the 16th.
Jay

    
    
    I just got back from the Black Hills of South Dakota, which by the
    way is one of the "power spots in the Americas".  I was attending
    a spritual retreat & one of the field trips was to Bear Butte.
    Bear Butte has been & still is used as a worship site for several
    Indian groups.  Before the field trip we had a Lakota Sioux shaman
    give a short talk.  One of the things that he pointed out was that
    the Buffalo berries were turning ripe & several other natural
    phenomenon 	indicating winter was coming, were happening sooner than 
    usual.
    
    The shaman also said that this was (in their belief system) not
    a good sign as winter symbolizes spiritual darkness, but that we
    still had time to pull it together.   
    
    I haven't been out in nature recently, so can't speak about what
    is happening in Colorado.

    
    Jayna

    To add to this ...
    
    According to the local newspaper, _The Middlesex News_, on 17 August,
    in Maynard, Main Street will be closed to traffic from 7:00 AM to
    7:00 PM 5 days a week for at least 5 weeks.  17 August is the _first_
    day this happens.
    
    Hmm.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    Down under the Magnolias are out earlier than usual, and are now
    showing some leaves.  We really haven't had winter as such, today
    is a beautiful day and I am in summer clothes.  The shops are having
    some incredible sales, which is always an indication that sales
    are down.
    
    People seem to be a little touchier, and are being put to tests.
    Me for instance, I live in a block of four units, and we were all
    given one month's notice as the owner was going to move into them
    and renovate into two houses.  On a limited budget, with rents
    skyrocketing in our area everybody has been laughing at the money
    I have and what I want.
    
    So, I sat down and wrote out exactly what myself and my two teenage
    daughters wanted in out new home, put it away and composed a simple
    affirmation which I repeat as often as I can......with less than
    two weeks until deadline I am still reasonably calm (on the outside)
    but my daughters are not.
    
    Not only, but bills are coming in left right and centre, my power
    bill is double what it normally is, insurance arrived, removalists
    need to be paid whenever, and there are no backup resources.
    
    I hsve no doubt that the right place will turn up in time for the
    right money, but ......
    
    As far as people being really moody, or sick, or lost, these people
    (or 90%) are enlightened and are still having problems, but more
    so than usual.  I find I am preoccupied with finding a home and
    a little terse, not usually me.
    
    Other than that little niggle the spring flowers are already out
    and people are already clammering to the beaches at weekends.  We
    are having days of about 20-22 degrees (C) when normally August
    is our coldest and windiest month.
    
    re: 40
    
    Many thanks, I have passed many copies onto various people who have
    also said thanks.
    
    ....dale

    
I just want to share with all of you how I've been feeling lately. 
I've been feeling more glad to be alive than ever before.  I've been
more careful in what foods I eat, back to exercising after quite a
few years, I feel as if I want to nurture everyone.  Sunrises and
sunsets are more intensely beautiful; last night, for instance, the
skyline was a gorgeous shade of pink, with white puffy clouds touched
along the top with a light grey color.  Incredible.  

I'm normally an energetic person; when I'm tired and need to go on,
I usually recoup very quickly.  Somehow, there's an inherent source
of energy that I'm able to tap into when I need to.  Lately, I have even
more energy, vitality.  I feel so alive!  I've been constantly on the go;
and when I have nothing to do, I can't stay in my apartment; I need to
be outside in the open air.  My intuitive senses are sharper.  I'm being
surprised by phone calls and mail from people I haven't heard from in
awhile.

A treasured relationship of a few years ago that waned because of
lack of communication and hurt feelings has come back into my life
and is richer than before.  I also seem to be working harder to enhance
other relationships in my life at this time.

Materially, I am a single, divorced woman with one paycheck and not 
a very big one to boot and, at times, I wonder how I'm going to make it. 
Lately, an unexpected check or two has arrived in the mail.  I bought a 
few shares of a copper stock and every day the stock is rising and rising.
My co-workers who are heavily into stock and stock purchases are blown
away by what's happening to the stock I bought.  Yes, I could lose it
all tomorrow (the stock,) yet, I don't believe this is going to happen.

Are all these good things happening because of my positive thinking?
Is it because I have FIRE signs all over my natal chart, Sun Aries,
Moon Leo, with LEO rising, in fact, all 3 Fire signs are present in
my chart; the Grand Fire Trine coming up?  Is it something else that's 
happening?  I don't know.  What I do know is positive thinking is a 
very important part of my life. It's proven itself over and over.  I 
do have days when I'm not so positive and those are the times when 
I attract nothing.

I realistically visualize the best in life and, more often than not, it
comes to me.  I realize that we don't all have this gift, and I do believe
it's a gift that's been given me because tapping into it is not very 
difficult for me. There are other areas in my life that I have to struggle
to achieve any semblence of order.  Yet, I feel, if something is worth 
having, then it is worth any hard work that needs to be done to acquire it.  

Charlene

    Can anyone tell me what time sunrise will be on the 16th?
    
    Thanks,
    Sheila
    

    Re .54:
    
    The best thing to do is to look it up in the _Old Farmer's Almanac_.
    However, a word of caution:  this will give sunrise in terms of
    Eastern Standard Time for Boston.  To find out for elsewhere, it's
    necessary to make corrections.  The OFA gives tables to do this,
    since the actual moment of sunrise will vary according to your precise
    geographical location.  Since I don't know where you will be, and
    since my OFA is in the house at the moment, that's as exact as I
    can be.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    Lately I have had a strong feeling of the need to savor every aspect
    of my life.  Each day seems more lovely than the last and I deeply
    want to memorize all aspects of it - sight, smell, feel, taste (etc).
    I find that I have to remind myself that the future will be just
    as memorable as the present.  I believe that what is happening is
    that I am becomeing more and more in tune with the earth.  As a
    result, I am finally seeing the beauty and harmony around me.  It's
    great!  
    
    Marion

    Hmm, read each note and feel slightly confused but optimistic--
    I, too, have noticed that things outside are happening sooner,
    such as the beach plums are ripe already, the pines at the cape
    seem to be dying...but this to me, is NOT a GOOD sign.  I find
    no comfort in an early autumn/winter.  I presumed that it was due
    to the semi-drought we're having here in Mass.  But for the positive,
    I, too, have made some firm resolutions to change my current way
    of life, though I won't be in the position, monitarily or emotionally,
    for several more years.  Perhaps this Aug. 16-17th, if I assert
    myself to the sun (I am truly a sun worshipper any way)--I won't
    have to wait several years?
    
    And for yet another element--has anyone else noticed that the traffic/
    drivers seem to be extra surly lately?  Some days it seems that
    drivers are literally aiming for one another.  Or perhaps its due
    to the fact that I'm on the road so much myself that I'm more
    sensitive to other drivers.  It's been a killer out there though
    and driving has become a drain and a chore, rather than a release
    and sign of freedom as I once felt.
    
    Well, whatever it is, something is changing...
    

    Re early Fall:
    
    In the old Norse legends, there was something called ... well, I
    won't try to spell it, but it was a special winter that came just
    before Ragnarok [or Gotterdammerung, if you prefer].  It was a l_o_n_g
    spell of winter, after which the gods would have to fight the frost
    and fire giants.  Sort of a Norse equivalent of Armageddon.
    
    No, I'm not pessimistic.  But I  think it's an interesting datum.
    
    How _are_ things in Norway/Denmark/Sweden these days?
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    Before Ragnarok comes the Fimbulwinter, a winter lasting several
    years in a row.  I dunno what "fimbul" means.
    
    Earl Wajenberg

    Wasn't it Dylan who said "you don't have to be a weather man to
    see which way the wind is blowing"?

    Although I have been a reader in this conference for the past several
    months, I have not yet written anything.  This topic convinced me that
    I had to write because so many things in my life seem to be connected
    to this whole Harmonic Convergence thing.

    Firstly, I live in France and August 16 will be my first anniversary of
    having moved to France.  Seeing the date in the title of this note is
    what originally caught my attention and I am glad it did.

    I recently visited the States for a couple of weeks on vacation and for
    one of these weeks I was a staff member at a summer camp run by a
    friend.  Steve McFadden, the author of the article in note 481.5 and a
    personal friend of mine, was an Instructor and the Associate Director
    at the camp.  He mentioned to me at the time that he had written that
    article and that it had been posted in a digital notes file.  It
    sounded interesting at the time but I promptly forgot about it.

    Since rediscovering this topic through the base note and reading all
    the replies to it I have noticed some things similar to things others
    have noted.  I have recently gotten back in touch with a friend I had
    drifted away from and we have been having lots of fun together.
    Spring, which is usually very rainy, was dry this year and Summer,
    which is usually very hot and dry, has been relatively cool and has had
    some very unseasonable thunderstorms.  A small plum tree grove on our
    property has been producing tons of fruit and has been doing so for
    several weeks.  The US dollar is currently rising in value when within
    the past year it had dropped uncomfortably low.

    All of these things seem to indicate, to me at least, that something is
    happening.  Some people appear to be concerned about the possibility of
    an early or long Winter, but it does not bother me because Winter is my
    favorite season.  Whatever may happen, I look forward to the 16th and
    17th and am going to try to be up to see the sunrise (if I can find out
    what time it is over here) and to spend some time in meditation.

    I hope that all goes well for everyone.


    Jessica Clark

    

    Most everything that has been said about this coming weekend 
    has been "good" in one manner or another. The beginning of a new
    wonderful age, everyone being in tune with everyone else, love
    joy, and happiness etc. etc. etc.
    
    BUT, it has been mentioned, and almost intentionally skipped over
    it seems, that past "ages" have ended in catastrophy. The great
    flood for example. The myan calendar ending ABRUPTLY and so on.
    
    I bring this up for two reasons. First of all, I wonder if anyone
    has any other, less joyess ideas about this coming weekend, and
    may be holding back, and secondly, Nostradamus has 4 or 5 prophecies
    (sp?) for this month and year, which are NOT good. 
    
    One in particular mentions a fleet, floundering in the Persian Gulf
    which, according to his usual astrological method of divination,
    is supposed to take place on, I believe, August 27th.
    
    If anyone is interested, I'll enter the interpeted prophecy, and
    explanation given tonight.
    
    
    Steve

    I'm interested Steve.

    Ditto for me.

    
    Steve - go for it!  
             
    

                                        
    I have several posters hanging on my home-away-from-home (cubicle)
    walls and wanted to share some of the captions with you.  Will start
    with the most optimistic one on 'winter':
    
    
    "In the midst of winter I finally learned that there was in me an
    invincible summer.                - CAMUS"
    
    also:
    
    "WONDERS NEVER CEASE - Experience your share and more..."
    
    "Today's dream is the threshold of tomorrow's discovery."
                         
    "The clearest way into the Universe is through a forest 
    wilderness.              - John Muir
    

    Ok. My book on Nostradamus is at home, and I'll enter the
    appropriate passages when I get home tonight.
    
    
    Steve

    Being a sceptic and having said that I didn't think anything would
    happen (except dissapointing some people) I still think nothing will
    happen of any significance. But if something should happen in the
    Persian Gulf I'm sure Nostradamus or Harmonic Convergences will be
    blamed. B^) 

    I don't believe that anything cataclysmic, or even "newsworthy"
    (you should pardon the expression!) is going to happen on these
    dates.  I don't think World War III will begin, or the earthquake
    knock off California, or that the savior in the form of an extra-
    terrestrial will appear.  But the significance of these days is
    the marking, the celebration of the positive energies, the expanded
    consciousness that more and more persons on this Earth are discovering 
    and disseminating.  The growing number of those practicing positive
    deeds and influences will surely boost the energies in that direction.
    
    Sheila
    

    A meditation group I belong to is planning to get together over
    the Aug 15-18 time frame in the Jackson/ Moab Utah area. Does anyone
    know where or who I could contact at this late date to rent a house
    or condo during this time.
    
    Please contact me directly at:
    Aohm::jacobs
    or call 223-9519 

I'm worried about the 16th. I don't want to sound like a pessimist, but I 
think that most of the replies in this topic have been a bit eye-glazing. 
The bit of information that worries me the most is that the Hopi vision of 
the end of this age was of spiderwebs stretching across the sky; that, with 
the troubles in the Middle East and the astrological predictions I've heard 
for late August/early September, make me very uneasy.

Growth comes through pain. While I truly believe that a powerful change is 
coming to this planet, I must also believe that the change will be the 
result of tremendous hardship.

*HOWEVER*

Certain people have the ability >right now< to use the raw power that will 
be available over the next few weeks to certain advantage. I think that 
most of you reading this reply fall into this category. We've used it 
before now to create parking spaces, travel in the astral planes, and so 
on. 

We'll be noticing a quantum jump in our psychic abilities. We'll feel calm 
in the middle of chaos and will have a real sense of determination in our 
actions. It's our responsibility, those of us who know how to use power, to 
subtly guide the world toward a renewed love of Earth. During this period 
of change, though, we may find that we need to use the power selfishly to 
protect ourselves against a world in confusion. Do this by wrapping the 
power around you in a swirl from your feet up to the heavens. Later you 
will learn how to let the power flow through you, but for now just surround 
yourself in it. 

Frankly, I have not a clue as to what we're supposed to do. I'm a little 
pissed that we're being thrown into this mess with what seems to be minimal 
guidance. I'm confused, frightened, and anxious. I'm just going to hold on 
for dear life and trust that what I need to know will come to me (it always 
does).

The "Age of Flowers," as someone has called it, is not the result of some 
super-being come to save the planet. It's a turning point in a natural 
cycle of life. It's neither good nor evil. It just is. We're fortunate to 
be alive to witness this amazing thing...and, as lovers of our planet, 
I hope that we'll all use our new knowledge for her good.

But don't expect to wake up on the 17th to lions bedding down with lambs. 
(Or eagles with bears, for that matter.)

Perry (a.k.a. Tananda)

    re priors
    
    May the force be with you!
    

    	I've been thinking...
    
    	Imagine that the last age began around 3000 BC or thereabouts,
    and at that time there was a lot of powerful psychic energy, and
    some beings which people called gods walked about and liked to say,
    "This is Good." At some point, they left, promising to return.
    
    	If there is something to this, and this event is the mark of
    their return, how impressed are they going to be with the current
    state of the planet? The Amer-indian gods might be especially annoyed
    with the way their land has been usurped and exploited. 
    
    	So, focus that energy...and be ready to explain and apologize
    (?) for several centuries of ignorance and short-sightedness on the
    part of our ancestors.
    
    ---------------------------
    
    	And another question. I drove out to Mystery Hill to see how
    far it was from my house (~20 minutes from what used to be Benson's
    Animal Farm in Hudson NH) and noticed that it is quite fenced in
    and operated like a tourist (echem) attraction, surrounded by fences
    that state the hours in no uncertain terms as 9am to 6pm. Are special
    arrangements being made by the people who want to be there at dawn?
    I suppose we could hang out in the parking lot, but that's not quite
    what I had in mind... 
    
    	Ed

    
    
    RE: the last few notes...
    
    Though it may seem that some people are approaching this event with
    rose-colored glasses, I don't think that's really the way
    it is.  I for one choose not to dwell on the possibility that things
    might get rough - because if I do I'll be frozen in fear and unable
    to participate with faith and trust.  I've spent too much of my
    life like that.  I think myself and others are just trying to stay 
    aligned with thih and trust.
    
    RE: .74
    
    Ed,
    
    From what I heard, Mystery Hill is supposed to stay open for the
    weekend.  Did you notice if you have to pay to get in?  Think I'll
    give them a call and check all this out.  There are other places
    that people have been mentioning...Mt Monadnock, Mt Wachusett, etc.
    Or even your own backyard!  I'll enter what I find out.
    
    Carole
    

    First of all, a clarification. In my opening note about Nostradamus,
    I stated that there were 4 or 5 prophecies pertaining to this
    coming weekend. This was a generalazation, and reflected my own
    interpatation of the quatrains to follow. This was mainly based
    on the fact that the first three quatrains all refer to the end
    of one age, and the beginning of another. All of the prophecies
    also deal with VERY current events. My appologies for drifting 
    from the actual text.
    
    The following prophecies will be written in two parts, just as they
    appear in the book. First, a literal interpetation of the original
    prophecie, and second, and explanation by the author. Any comments
    by myself, will be enclosed in parentheses.
    
    
    
    
    
    The following text is taken from the book "The Prophecies of 
    Nostradamus", translated, edited and introduced by Erika Cheetham.
    
    
    			A scythe joined with a pond in
    			sagittarius at its highest ascendant.
    			Plague, famine, death from military hands;
    			the century approaches its renewal.
    
    When Saturn and Aquarius are in conjunction with Sagittarius in
    the ascendant, towards the end of a century, we should expect a
    great war, together with disease and famine. This description is
    so general that it could fit our century as well as any other. 
    Nostradamus does refer later in Centuries to the possibility of
    a third war toward the end of this century.
    
    		(The first hint of trouble at a centuries renewal).
    
    
    
    			After great misery for mankind
    			an even greater approaches when 
    			the great cycle of the centuries is renewed.
    			It will rain blood, milk, famine, war and 
    			disease: In the sky will be seen a fire, 
    			dragging a trail of sparks.
    
    
    The great castatrophe of war that Nostradamus predicts here is linked
    with a comet appearing at the end of a century. The most likely
    is Halley's comet, last seen in 1910 and due to reappear in 1986,
    which is consistent with the other dates given by Nostradamus. He
    is obviously not exactly clear when this war will break out and
    dates between the late 70's and 1999 are given. Comets were important
    to 16th century philosophers and had significance according to their
    place in the zodiac. It does not seem to apply to the 1910 dating,
    because Nostradamus specifies that a great war has already taken
    place before the comet appears.
    
    	(Through reading the book, it seems that Nostradamus is considered
    	 to be more or less correct if the prophecie is within a few
    	 months to a year. Could he have been just a year off on this
    	 one?????)
    
    
    			A new law will occupy a new
    			land around Syria, Judea and
    			Palestine. The great barbarian 
    			Empire will crumble before the 
    			century of the Sun is finished.
    
    
    The first two lines speak for themselves and describe the creation
    of the state of Isreal. By barbarian, Nostradamus means Arabic or
    non-Christian and ;implies here that Isreal will eventually triumph
    over her Arab enemies before the end of the 20th Century--The century
    of the Sun.
    
    
    
    			The people of Rhodes will
    			demand help, abandoned by
    			the neglect of their heirs. The
    			Arab Empire will assess its
    			course, its cause revived again 
    			by the West.
    
    
    At a time of unrest in Greece, which could refer to the present
    regime, the U.A.R. will asssess its position and be helped in some
    way by America. Possibly this last line refers to the attitude taken
    by the U.S.A. over the Suez or to the complicated political pressures
    now being brought to bear on the Middle East.
    
    	(Bare in mind that this book was written 14 years ago. I'm sure
    	 current events played a part in the interpetations. Hence the
    	 reference to Suez. However the middle east is considerable
    	 more unstable now than it was then, and we (usa) are, after
    	 all, reflagging oil tankers and putting them under American
    	 protection).
    
    
    
    			The Arab Prince, Mars, the Sun
    			Venus and Leo, the rule of the
    			Church will succumb to the sea.
    			Towards Persia very nearly a 
    			million men will invade Egypt and
    			Byzantium, the true serpent.
    
    
    When Mars, the Sun and Venus are in conjunction with Leo, the
    following predictions are forecast about a new Arabian Empire.
    It will attack Persia, Egypt, Constantinople (Byzantium) and the
    navies of Christendom. According to the commentator, Lee McCann
    (1942), this conjunction will take place on the 21st of August,
    1987. This must therefore in some way link up with the quatrains
    about the uprising in Asia. (not listed here).
    
    
    
    			By night, the rainbow will 
    			appear near Nantes, the marine
    			arts will raise up rain. In the
    			Arabian Gulf a great fleet will
    			flounder: in Saxony a monster
    			will be born of a bear and a sow.
    
    
    This quatrain may apply to the 20th century. In 1947, the scientists
    discovered how to produce artificial rain. At a time when a rainbow
    appears at Nantes, a fleet will meet disaster either in the Red
    Sea, since there is no actual Gulf of Arabia, or in the Arabian
    Sea, which lies to the south, or the Persian Gulf to the east.
    
    (I find it interesting here that the word RAINBOW is used, and
     considering all the action that is taking place in the middle
     east, that a fleet will meet disaster in the Persian Gulf (my
     choice).
    
    
    Well, that's it folks. Take it for what it's worth. Anyone have
    a pair of rose colored glasses they want to sell?????
    
    
    Seriously, I much prefer to look toward this weekend in a much more
    positive manner, and believe that mankind, no matter how bull headed,
    will stop short of destroying itself.
    
    
    Steve

.62 Jessica;  were you at Spring Hill?  After  we built the Medicine Wheel in
Lunenburg  this weekend we were invited up to Spring Hill in  Ashby  to  par-
ticipate in a Sweat Lodge with a Lakota Souix who left today  for the Rosebud
reservation for  a  Sun  Dance.    Three  days  of  non-stop ceremony.  Steve
McFadden went with him as his moral support. 

.63 Steve;   It is  true  that the 'new age' will bring a perfect world which
will be very  unlike  this  one.    Reply .72 (Perry/Tananda) says it nicely;
there will be a  quantum  leap  in our physic abilities.  It will be the com-
bining of technology and awareness.  It will not happen overnite.  There is a
five year period of intense change followed  by  20  years  of  change  which
brings to an end the Mayan calendar.   Beyond that, I believe, is when things
start to really get good.  Until then, as  with all change there will be con-
flict and the troubles that changes bring about, especially intense  changes.
I've been told that the first step is to get over  the  fear  and  commit  to
being a part of the change.  It is a time to  be  sovereign.    The  power to
bring about the phase shift is within.  It is true that there are predictions
for  this  year  which  appear frightening.  I was told again of a particular
astrological aspect  which involves Neptune and which will occur on September
first.  I  believe, as most do, that something in the Persain Gulf will occur
in that time frame,  but the way it was put this weekend was;  we should pray
for the best possible scenario whether that be crisis avoidance or a confilct
which will act as a catalyst  that  is  needed to bring about the change that
will occur.  Thanks for reply .76 with the interpreted  prophecy,  although I
haven't read it yet

.70 Sheila;  Nothing newsworthy will occur  on the 16th or 17th.  In fact the
only reference I've seen in any national news  medium,  in  any  form  was in
Doonsbury  ;') But, California is expected, by some, to  be  in  the  Pacific
within the first five year period.  In terms of  numbers  of those practicing
positive deeds and influences;  it has been said 144,000 rainbow dancers will
be  awakened on those days, but with regard to the 100th monkey  principle  -
which  says  that  when  a  'critical  mass'  of humanity arrives at a common
vision,  the  idea will reach the imagination of a significant majority - the
'critical mass'  of  the  human  population  has  been  calculated  at 11% or
550,000,000! 

.72 Perry;   Nice reply.I agree with the minimal guidance.  It does seem that
for most of us  it  was only recently that we even heard anything about this.
But, I think the key  is  quiet  reflection, not being "confused, frightened,
and anxious.".  Look inside and what you need to know WILL come.  I think you
believe that.

.74 Ed;  3113 BC according to some..  And at leat one said that this is good,
but  predicted it would get worse.  Thirteen  52-year  cycles  of  decreasing
light and choice, followed by nine 52-year cycles of  increasing darkness and
trouble, the nine hells.  We are at the very  end of the nine hells.  In fact
we are in the last 26 years years of the last  hell.   Which implies the next
25 years ('87-92 and '92-2012) could get very rough.  [BTW I believe '92 ends
the Aztec calendar and 2012 ends the Mayan calendar.] So, I don't think  that
any 'god' that returns, whether it is Quetzalcoatl or Christ are expecting to
be impressed.    Native Americans since the early 1800's have been annoyed at
the way we've usurped and exploited the land.  But there are native Americans
who today look at  all  those who are 'aware' and talk of us as their allies,
and believe that there will  be  a  healing and that humans will be a part of
that healing.  We have nothing  to  explain  or  apologize  for.  There is no
past.  Re;  Mystery Hill - I wanted to go Wachuset Mt and found also that the
gate closes and dusk and in order to  be  there  at  sunrise we would have to
hike  up in the dark with our seven year  old.    There  will  however  be  a
noon-time gathering at Wachuset, which we will try to make.   As for sunrise,
it may be at the Wheel we built, a sacred spot for me.

Lastly;  my thoughts.  There will be a Harmonica Conference  on  the 16th and
17th ;') It will affect everyone, whether they are aware of what's  happening
or not.  There will be  an  intense  change  that will end the petro-chemical
economy and the balance of power will  shift  from  two  super powers to many
regional autonomies.  De-militarization will occur.   The  earth  will not be
destroyed  because its not ours to destroy, and  although  a  great  deal  of
damage could be done, there is the power to  heal and cleanse.  There will be
much  earth  activity,  earthquakes  and  volcanoes.  There will be  a  great
division of people, but not along race or nationality lines but  more  like a
polarization.  All this will happen in a short 5 year period.  By the time we
reach 1992, we will be heading into a time of stabilization.  We will be well
connected  with  the  earth as a living thing.  There will be a  greater  em-
phasis on the importance of ritual and  artistic activity.  We will be commu-
nicating and possibly travelling in ways remarkably different  from  what  we
know today.  The earth will have begun to  detoxify itself.  By the year 2012
we will have restored oursleves to "that natural circle of  perfection  where
all  the dimensions of being are inseparably united.".  What a  dreamer,  eh?
We will Dance the Dream Awake!  
Jay

    I don't think anybody has to worry about California sinking into the
    sea: The shelf on which it rests is 5 miles thick.  The ocean is a
    maximum 2 miles deep in that area. 
    
    
    John M.

    RE: .72
      I, for one, don't believe that growth through pain is the best
    way for growth...growth through fun and pleasure has got to be a
    better way.
      As for the 16th and 17th, I didn't know anything about it until
    I read it here about one month ago.  Being the Lazaris "friend
    that I am, however, leads me to believe that this won't be the
    cataclysmic event that so many predict.  Why?  Because if it were
    to be *that* important, Lazaris would have said something for us
    PRIOR to the 16th.  He will be talking about it on the night of
    the 16th in San Francisco and the night of the 17th in Los Angeles.
    That would make it *almost too late* to do anything about, wouldn't
    you agree?  I suspect that it will be something akin to the beginning
    of a new year, not the devastation of an old...(something doomsayists
    have been predicting for millenia--wrongly, too, I should point
    out.)  Perhaps it is the beginning of a new age and a great opportunity
    for us to "gather together" our collective energies to synergize
    and propel us along further than would otherwise have been possible.
    We have a week to wait and see...I shall report on Lazaris' talk
    next Monday...sorry that it will probably be "too late" for you
    East Coasters.
     
    Frederick
    

    
    re: .-1
    
    My (imperfect) understanding is that the 16th is the final day of
    the old age (I'm still wondering if this is the Atlantean age, or
    did the Flood begin a new one... "Antedeluvial?") and that the 17th
    is the first day of the new age. There is a period of nine days
    prior to and nine days following the 17th which is a time of heightened
    awareness.
    
    The feeling I get is that the world's odometer is coming up to
    999,999.9 and that at dawn on the 17th it will roll over to 000000.0...
    you know the little bump in your stomach that you get when your
    car does this; think of what it will feel like on a global scale!
    
    I also believe that the change is a periodic function (in the math
    sense) and that the sign of the derivative is about to switch. Various
    sources claim varying periods of time for the function to have a
    real effect on us, but the majority seems to favor between 9 and
    20 years. Whatever the time frame, we've got a lot of work to do.
    
    On a slightly related subject...don't miss the Perseids meteor shower
    this week! Best viewing will be Wednesday at about midnight.
    
    Perry/Tananda
    

    
    re: mystery hill
    
    In answer to someone's question about Mystery Hill admission prices,
    I just called the place and was told these prices:
    
    	Adults 		$5
    	Students	$4
    	Senior Citizens	$3
    	Children 6-12	$1.50
    	Children < 6	Free
    
    There is a 20% discount if you are a member of AAA.
    
    I'm trekking up there for luch today and will enter my impressions
    in a separate note later today or tomorrow (I'll also ask them about
    "sunrise services").
    
    Perry/Tananda
    

    Re .82:
    
    >There is a 20% discount if you are a member of AAA.
    
    American Automobile Association?  American Astrological Association?
    Alliance of American Admen?  Ancient Atlantean Adepts?    
    
    ;-)
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.                                       

    OK, I have a Mystery Hill flyer in my hands:
    
    Open (Weather Permitting) Weekends April & November
    Daily - May 1st thru Oct 31st
    
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    Just my $.02 worth on this weekend.  It is astrologically flavored
    ;-)
    
    The grand fire trine that everyone else has been making a great
    deal of is not exact that weekend; indeed, it is not exact at any
    time this summer, even though the planets are pretty close.  For
    transit, or event work, most astrologers recommend vanishingly small
    orbs of aspect--less than 15 minutes!  With Uranus in 22 degrees
    Sagittarius, Jupiter in 29 degrees Aries, and the Leo planets situated
    from 18 to 25 degrees, the orbs are close enough for a birth chart,
    but not for event work.  However, as many have told me, especially
    people who have lots of their planets in fire signs, or those who
    have planets in the last 8 degrees of any sign, they feel
    over-energized this summer.
    
    What _is_ happening astrologically this summer is that the minor
    planet Chiron (discovered in 1977 orbiting between Saturn and Uranus;
    has a 50-year orbital path) is transiting across 26-27 degrees of 
    Gemini this month.  This is directly across from 26 degree (and 
    the minutes escape me at the moment) Sagittarius, which astronomers 
    correlate with the galactic center.  Us Earthers suddenly becoming 
    more "in tune" with the galactic energy as a whole?  Harmonic
    convergence?  Call it what you may.  These are exciting possibilities.
    It does seem that those of us who have a potent natal Chiron,
    or have planets in 26-27 degrees of any sign, or have the Gemini-
    Sagittarius sign polarity strong in their horoscope may be the ones
    feeling the heat on this one.
    
    The newest book on Chiron in astrology calls the planet the Rainbow
    Bridge.  The authoress believes that its function is to help us
    "invest matter with spirit" (a quote from a book on crystals), to
    help us integrate the more cosmic energies represented by Uranus,
    Neptune and Pluto, into our more personal selves (Sun, Moon, Mercury, 
    Venus, Mars) and worldly selves (Jupiter, Saturn).  The possibility
    could be there for us to being really learning to integrate the
    material with the spiritual sides of ourselves, to become conscious
    of the two, to begin healing the terrible split many of us experience
    between the two.
    
    Three things work for this:  One is the fact that Chiron is opposing
    the important degree of Sagittarius; the opposition aspect implies
    confrontation (as with a mirror) and awareness of another reality
    than our own.  Two is the fact that Chiron is in Gemini, the sign
    of the conscious mind and mental functions; many of us (even my
    friends who know nothing about Harmonic Convergences or DEJAVU or
    any of this) are more conscious at this time of otherworldly realities
    and wondering now what place such might have in their lives.  Third,
    a loose configuration is formed this month, even if not exact enough
    for transit work by adding Chiron to the grand fire trine.  The
    configuration is called a Kite; it occurs when a grand trine has
    an opposition running from one of the trining planets (in this case,
    Uranus in Sag) to an opposing planet (Chiron in Gemini) which creates
    extra sextiles (60 degree aspects) between that opposing planet
    and the other members of the grand trine.  The "spine" of the kite,
    created by the opposing planets, gives one the energy to actually
    use the trine, which as a transit itself can go unnoticed; it tends
    to reflect a harmonious state of being, rather than a state of action.
    The opposition itself is also a state of being, and with the extra
    sextiles, a state of learning.
    
    What all this astro-gobbeldy-goo says to me is that we have an oppor-
    tunity to become aware _without_the_necessity_of_a_crisis_to_bring
    it_home_ of the capability and responsibility to heal ourselves
    and, by implication, by our future actions, our planet.  Chiron at 
    the head of the Kite is this healing factor; wherever it is in our 
    natal charts is where we often feel in special need of healing, 
    and where we keep doing things over and over again until we feel 
    we've "got it right".  With Chiron in Gemini, perhaps many of us
    are trying to get our heads on straight, in order that our lives
    may go forward in harmony and love, rather than the messes we feel
    they may have been.
    
    Now as to actual events, who can say?  There may indeed be a war
    over in the Middle East.  Can we conduct ourselves, as a country,
    so that such a conflict does not become a disaster?  Will California
    fall into the Pacific Ocean?  I doubt it, because the San Andreas 
    fault is not either a separating fault (which would cause the drifting
    apart of the land masses) or a vertical fault (which would cause
    one land mass to sink, the other to rise).  It's a _sliding_ fault,
    and what southern California is really doing is heading north, for
    Alaska.  (That'll be a surprise for the bathers at Malibu :-).)  Can
    world peace be achieved?  Let's not just only hope or think so;
    perhaps we might research what each of us can _do_ in our own small
    ways, within our governmental systems, the organizations we might 
    support, whatever our personal research could uncover that would 
    inch us closer to a more peaceful planet.  Are the seasons suddenly
    changing sooner?  Not here in New England, not really.  We had an
    extremely wet spring, which caused massive overgrowth of all sorts
    of vegetation, then a hot, dry summer (and no, humidity in the air
    doesn't count, just real rain) which has caused both early maturation
    for some plants, starvation and dying off for others (kind of like
    getting heavy into debt and then losing your job).  The trees that
    I notice are actually turning are few and far between--I've counted
    3 in all, and they're ones that I notice begin turning in August
    every year when the summer has had unusual weather conditions; they
    are for the most part, young, weak and not that well to begin with
    and they always lose it early on.  The lovely purple flowers have 
    _always_ bloomed in late July and early August--I know that, because 
    I fell in love with them the first year I moved here and have watched 
    them avidly ever since.  Dry summers bring them out in force.  And I 
    wouldn't consider a mild weather shift in the northern hemisphere to 
    be the herald of Fimbulwinter; after all, didn't our companion from 
    Down Under report that warm weather was arriving earlier down there?
    Now, if he'd said that it was colder than a you-know-what, _then_ I 
    could believe in a global cooling trend.
    
    In short, don't panic.  Curiosity is much more fun.   :-)  Take
    care all,
    
    Marcia

RE: .78
    
    Although I don't expect California to "fall into the ocean" anytime
    in the next 500,000 years (much less next week), I don't see what
    your statement has to do with it.
    
    By definition *all* land is higher than the ocean is deep (excepting
    some relatively small inland patches, e.g., Death Valley).  When
    people talk about California "sinking" into the ocean, what they
    really mean is that the land "sinkes" into the mantle and the sea
    runs in over the land.  This *does* happen, for example there was
    a volcanic island which first appeared and then disappeared near
    Iceland a few years back.  I am told that the southern part of England
    is (very, very slowly) sinking into the Atlantic in just this way
    (while Scotland gets higher and higher).
    
    Also with changing of climate the worldwide sea-level can change
    submerging costal areas.
    
    Finally, a channel can be formed connecting a lower-than-sea-level
    inland portion to the ocean, causing sudden, catastrophic flooding.
    This apparently happened a few tens of millenia ago when the
    Mediteranean Sea was formed.
    
    California won't "fall" into the ocean because the principle motion
    of the faults which are causing all that tectonic activity is mostly
    pushing California northward with some push into the land.  Its
    not moving up/down particularly right now (some local up down movement
    as the ground "folds" under the preasure).
    
    					Topher

    Re last few:
    
    I think the California_falling_into_the-Ocean myth started because
    of the San Andreas Fault.  Some people think that if there's a fault
    line, whatever's on one or the other side of it _necessarily_ will
    rise or sink rather than just sliding laterally.  Now, if anything's
    to sink, it's more likely [so the reasoning goes] to be the part
    on the far side of the fault from the Rocky Mountains, meaning that
    California [according to this hypothesis] woukld be more likely
    to slide into the Pacific than that everything east of the fault
    would be likely to sink ibto the Atlantic & Gulf of Mexico.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    I have spoken to the director of public parks and have obtained
    permission to go to Mount Wachusett on the 15th to greet the sun.
    I am sending the paper work in today and the permit will be sent
    to my home....(he's heard about the harmonic convergence_:-).
    
    Anyone who wishes to join Carole Fretts and I will be most welcome...
    just send mail for directions.
    Mary

What's happening at Mystery Hill on the 16th:

I went up to the site today and spoke with Ernie, a tour guide at 
"America's Stonehenge," about acitivity on Mystery Hill this weekend. He 
seemed concerned about the tremendous number of people expected; he 
estimated between 1,500 and 2,000 would try to get to the summit on the 
16th. He also (jokingly, I think, though he didn't smile) spoke of 
borrowing a detachment of NH National Guardsmen to protect the ruins and to 
maintain security.

Mystery Hill will open at 7 a.m., rather than their normal 9:30 a.m. on the 
16th. Guides will escort the crowd up to the summit, but no access to the 
ruins will be available. There is a chain-link fence around the structures, 
and no one will be allowed inside during the sunrise ceremonies. Folks 
*will* be allowed to congregate near the monoliths facing the rising sun. 

After the sun is up, the group will be escorted down the hill to the lodge. 
Once the hill is cleared, guided tours will be run about every 15 minutes. 
See previous notes regarding the entrance fee.

I couldn't tell if Ernie believed whether or not Mystery Hill is a power 
spot, although he did say that he would be there on the 16th.
                   

    Re .87 (with tongue held firmly in cheek)
    
    > Now, if anything's
    > to sink, it's more likely [so the reasoning goes] to be the part
    > on the far side of the fault from the Rocky Mountains...

    However, anyone with the proper background in Warner Brothers
    Cartoonology knows that it's the Rocky Mountains that will fall
    away leaving California hanging in mid air! ;-)
    
    Beep, beep!
    Paul.

    Re .90:
    
    ...Until someone notices it ... :-P
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

I agree with someone that if something DOES happen on the 18th, (or is it the
16th or 17th?) that, according to the Hopi, anyway, it will not be pretty.
After all, their prophecies have involved the unfolding of nasty physical
events such as wars, no? 

Who was it that mentioned a meteor shower?  I had a dream last week (I didn't
hear of the prophecies till yesterday) that a BIG meteor struck the Earth.
Hmmmmm....  We'll see what happens.

Frankly, I don't think ANYTHING will happen.

John M.

    Re:  California
    
    
    Please, let's not get ridiculous.  My remark about California was
    in hyperbole to emphasize that the change we see (or don't see)
    about the 16th of August will be subtle.  
    
    I can't believe I'm even defending this!
    

    	But Shelia, look how much we all learned about plate tectonics!
    ;-)
    
    	I love notes!
    
    	Ed

    CORRECTION:
    I ment that my permit is for dawn on SUNDAY the 16th... not the
    15th......
    		I ' m  s o  c o n f u s e d  

RE: .76
    
    It probably isn't necessary, but I suppose I should point out that
    the interpretations of Nostradamus are highly speculative.  In the
    past interpretations of Nostradamus have only been successful when
    they were talking about events which have already taken place or
    which would occur soon and which other people, without reference
    to occult sources, were predicting as well.  Of course, it may be
    that history has finally provided enough clues to allow the modern
    interpreters to be correct.
    
    Interpretation of Nostradamus frequently starts with associating
    verses with each other -- linear sequence is not a particularly
    good clue to what goes with what.  Certainly, as quoted in isolation,
    the quatrains presented do not point unambiguously at the
    interpretations presented.  For example, "in the sky will be seen
    a fire, dragging a trail of sparks" sounds much more like a meteoritic
    fireball than like a comet to me.  Or even to a rocket reentry if
    one wants to assume that the text refers to "special" events in
    this century.  Granting an identification with a comet, I would
    look for a much more exceptional comet than Halley turned out to
    be *or even was expected to be*.  The only thing special about Comet
    Halley is its relative short period, and the unwarrented attention
    it received its last two passes.
    
    The lines interpretted as the creation of the state of Israel would
    seem to apply equally (and more plausibly if we don't insist on
    its application to events of this century which we feel are
    significant from our vantage point) to the fall of the Ottoman Empire.
    And why is "the people of Rhodes" taken to mean the Greeks in general?
    Would we take a modern quatrain referring to "the people of Staten
    Island" as referring to the United States?
    
    While the interpretation given is certainly a possible one, I don't
    think it is a particular compelling one.  Whether or not Nostradamus
    was a true prophet, his complex allegories and evocative language
    encourage people to find what they are looking for in his prophecies.
    Nostradamus' code is, I think, unbroken if it exists at all.
    
    					Topher

    Does anyone know of any locations where it's better to be on August
    16th and 17th, particular near Santa Clara, California?
        
		    Regards,            
    
 			    John

Wait a minute:  Do you people in Mass. realize that you will be "greeting
the sun" about 2.5 hours before the Hopi?  Since it is THEIR prediction
and THEIR calendar at issue here, shouldn't you be chanting/praying/whatever
on their time schedule?

John M.

    RE: .99
    
    Wait a minute!  As I recall, Mt. Tam was held to be an *evil* place
    by the local tribes!
    
    
    John M.

    RE: .96 regarding Nostradamus
    
    I have been a bit of an astronomy buff in the past though I dont
    seem to have enoughtime to pursue it lately .... BUT ......
    
    Drum roll folks ...............
    
    I heard a news report yeaterday onthe radio that the Persiades
    (is that the right name??) will be seen in the skies I belive this
    weekend. The Persiades are meteors, or a meteor shower , that I
    think, appear on a cyclical basis. 
    
    As a note, the other night coming home from a dear friend's home
    in Clinton Mass, I did notice sporadic meteor activity in the skies.
    
    Can anyone shed some light in this direction???
    
    Samurai Writer

    Can someone tell us the exact time the Sun will appear over the
    horizon in Mass????/
    
    
    Samurai

    I dont know if this has anything to do with wht's happening lately
    ...... another BUT .... this morning I heard a report on an FM station
    .... Russian scientists have discovered a Norse Viking who did in
    900 AD , frozen in allegedly perfect preservation. A Russian female
    scientist has volunteered and they have extrracted the Viking's
    sperm and impregnated the female with it. According to the news
    this morning the pregnancy is healthy and will be carried to term!!!!
    
    Oh forthe days of Saturday Night Live, Samurai Tailor Where Are
    You?????
                                 Samurai Writer
    

    Re .103:
    
    There's no one time; it depends wehere you live.  Those who live
    on Cape Cod, for example, will see the sun rise long before those
    who live in, say, Springfield will.
    
    The best way to check this it to use the _Old Farmer's Almanac_,
    which will give the time for Boston (standard, _not_ Daylight),
    which you can use as a base.  Correction tables will enable you
    to dertermine this for your area....
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    Re: .102 Meteor shower
    
    The Persiades [sp?] meteor shower occurred last night, August 12th.
    It was not very impressive because of the nearly full moon that
    was out all night.
    
    
    On another note, I heard a news report yesterday concerning a large
    number of bottle-nosed dolphins that have been washing up on the east
    coast recently. In the last month over 125 dolphins have been found.
    They all seem to have died at sea, some time before they washed up as
    opposed to the usual "beaching" incidents that account for the 5-10
    dolphins found most years. They ALL have died from the same ailment.
    At this time it is not known if they were poisoned or diseased. This
    disturbs me because I have always felt a kinship with these beautiful
    sea mammals. Maybe the coming changes will effect more than just the
    human condition. 
    
    Paul.

    Re .106:
    
    The Perseid meteor shower _peaked_ last night.  You may still see
    a nice display tonight, if weather permits.  There will be fewer
    meteors, but the moonlight will be less, as the moon's waning.
    
    For best results, try about an hour-and-a-half before dawn.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    Yes, the Perseid meteor shower is a regular, perfectly normal, annual 
    event.  One I personally enjoy and try to see every year; most of
    the other annual meteor showers are in the winter (brrrr!).  
    
    Good watching is between August 5 - 15, and peaks around the 10th, 
    weather and phase of the moon permitting.  Spouse and I went out 
    last night and counted a dozen _good_ ones within the space of 
    half an hour, even at an early hour of night (9:15 - 9:45).  We 
    went out before moonrise, which was around a quarter of ten--it'll 
    be close to an hour later tonight, so there's more early evening 
    viewing time.  Steve K is correct about best viewing time being
    the wee hours, but the moon and my irritating habit of having to 
    sleep (;-)) will prevent me from taking advantage of it.
    
    There are other meteor showers that occur in other months on an
    annual basis.  If people are interested I'll dig up the info and
    post it someplace.
    
    Marcia

    Re .77

    Jay,

    Yes, I was at Spring Hill.  The camp I mentioned in my note, Camp
    Wileyah, is an organization without an actual location.  Each year they
    use different facilities depending on what is available, what is
    desired, etc.  This year we were situated at Spring Hill.

    Jessica

    

    So here comes harmonic synchronization. At dawn Sunday, several 
    thousand people will gather at various places around the globe, 
    join hands, and harmonize cerebrally.
          
    On Monday morning there will be the usual news of disaster, both 
    natural and man-made: earthquakes, volcanoes, dolphin drownings, 
    airplane crashes, extremes of weather, the mining of ships, minor 
    wars, polical scandals, and so forth. 
    
    Some will interpret this news as indicative of a major change. Although
    I am not Nostradamus, I predict that there will be no world-wide
    sensational news - nothing to compare with, for instance, the bombing
    of Pearl Harbor, the Black Death of the Middle Ages, or the invention
    of the printing press. 
    
    On Monday morning the earth will continue to revolve around the sun in 
    the orbit it has been in for billions of years. On Monday morning I
    will come to work, probably with my usual Monday morning jaded 
    attitude, and struggle to make it through another week.
    
    So have a nice weekend. And maybe Monday we can start writing on
    a new topic.
    
    -bs

    Here!  Here!!

    Re .111:
    
    >Here!  Here!!
    
    Where?  Where??  :-)
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    
    
    re: .110
    
    Your thoughts and opinions are most welcome in this note and others,
    just as everyone's are.  However, I would suggest that you just
    hit the KP, key to read the next unseen note if the discussion in
    this one is not to your liking.  There are others who might be
    enjoying it.
    
    Carole
    

    Re .110:
    
    Maybe there is nothing in this; and maybe that's correct.  However,
    while I don't anticipate a flat tire, it doesn't hurt to have a
    spare in the car.  If "psychic precautions" can help, all to the
    good; if they turn out to be unnecessary, no harm done.  So, with
    a "next unseen," why get bothered?
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    

    Re: .110 and onwards -
    
    I did not say I do not enjoy reading this note. On the contrary,
    it has been fascinating reading.
    
    However, I cherish the right to make my own predictions. You may
    or may not agree with them, but do not tell me what I should or
    should not be reading, and do not tell me what I should or should
    not be writing.
    
    Preparation for the future is an important part of life, and most
    of us spend a large portion of our conscious and unconscious existence
    preparing for it. I have made, in my opinion, sufficient preparation 
    for the events of the next few days.
    
    -bs

    re: .13
    
    Yes, I have heard through some channelled material that after the
    Harmonic Convergence the year will be 360 days.  Also Ley Lines
    are shifting.  The entity Leah being channeled through a person
    in Santa Fe has done several lectures, avaiable on tape on the
    Harmonic Convergence.

    re: .97
      
      Mt. Tam is indeed a good place according to newspaper accounts.
    Also Mt. Shasta, a definite power spot (which I hear is already
    "booked.")
      My choice would be the Golden Gate Bridge (mid-span) which if
    it isn't in fog as it so often is, should be great.  Sunrise is
    at 6:26 PST.
     
    Frederick
    

    
    Re.115
    
    Having just reread the prior five notes - I'd just like to make
    it clear that nobody is 'telling' you to do anything.  
    
    The word 'suggest' was used, however, and, as you mentioned, you
    are indeed free to write whatever you would like to write here.
    
    Cindy
    

    re: going anywhere.
      
         I personally am not going to go anywhere and unless you
    feel the need for human or earth companionship, I don't believe
    that it is necessary to do any traveling at all.  As we have discussed
    throughout this conference in many earlier topics, it comes down
    to choice.  Unlike the ancients who lacked in imagination (for
    the most part) we don't...therefore, we can simply IMAGE whatever
    we want to in our minds.  You can visualize Stonehenge or Macchu
    Picchu and FEEL that you are there.  If you need crutches, use them.
    If you simply want to go because you want to go, then that's all
    right, too.  Just don't go because you feel that you "have to"
    for fear the event won't work.  It'll work due to the amount of
    energy that will be focused, no matter where you are or the
    precise time in which it is being done.  May we all have a 
    "hopi sharing."
      
    Frederick
    

    re: 110,115
    
    I for one, do not feel that come Tuesday 18th August everything
    will be different, because this is going to take some time.  But....
    what we all do on the 16th and 17th will certainly make an impact
    for all our futures.  All that positive energy - whatelse !!
    
    Make 'white' not 'dark'
    
    ....dale

    Since lots of people have asked and hardly anybody's responded,
    here are some times for sunrise on 16 August, as computed from _The
    Old Farmer's Almanac_
    
    Boston, Lowell, and Manchester, N.H.:  5:52 
    Washington, D.C.: 6:23
    Chicago: 5:59
    Dayton, Ohio: 6:30
    Yuma, Ariz.: 7:16
    Boulder/Denver: 6:23
    Los Angeles: 6:17
    San Francisco: 6:27
    
    I'm assuming Daylight Savings for all these locations (otherwise
    everything's an hour earlier)
    
    17 August, the sun rises a minute later.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

<-- Thnaks Steve

With regards to sunrise and times. As said sunrise depends on were you
are. You should greet the sun as it comes over the horizon. There is
however a worldwide meditation which will be coordinated at a specific
time (8:00- 9:00 in east coast time). It is similar to the Peace
meditation of Dec 31st, 1986.

It has also been suggested that you greet the sun with flowers and
banners of color.  The specific colors suggested were blue, bordered with
yellow and a small amount of pink.

Jay

    RE: 110
    
    I know this is a bit late to respond to .110 but .......
    I feel that a little bit of cycism helps keep an idealist's vision
    anchored to reality.
    
    I don't feel that .110 was being a "downer" ... but rather that .110
    was simply trying to tell us to make sure we don't abrogate our
    lives for a dream and idealistic vision of a paradisical future.
                              
    Personally I believe in what is going to occur on August 16'th.
    But that doesn't mean that everyone will experience a verifiable
    event. Some of us will swear by what ever happens while others are
    going to sit there and wonder where our intellects have gone for
    the vacation ;-).
    
    Thank you .110 for inserting some reality here
    
    Samurai

    From what I've been seeing in some of the replies it appears that
    people are expecting some sort of science fiction-type earth shaking
    dramatic changes to suddenly take place after sunday. I myself do
    not know what to expect, maybe everything will be exactly the same
    as before--at least on the surface. 
    
    My feeling, however, is that the real meaning of the experience
    is being missed. One of the deepest messages of the "new age" is
    that the time has arrived for us to look inward, to bring change
    from within each of our own hearts and to reach the hearts of others.
    Realize that we as human beings have created the conditions that
    exist, through our own actions. That which we see around us and
    think of as bad has been created by us because of our lack of 
    wisdom-manifest. 
    
    By the same token, we have within us the power to correct all of
    that which is bad, but this must be done by collective realization
    and commitment toward the direction of our hearts. We are created
    from God, and being His children we are the reflection of His every
    breath. Our dreams are His dreams, His dreams are ours. We reflect
    the infinite beauty, compassion and wisdom that He is. We are the
    Love that He is. 
    
    As the ages pass we evolve to become more like Him. Change is con-
    stantly happening around us/in us/to us. It is not smooth change,
    it comes in fits and starts, so to speak. No one of us really knows
    the way things will happen because at every moment we act to create
    the events of the future, whether consciously or unconsciously.
    We therefore need to develop spiritually a communion with each
    other and with nature and with God, that we may strengthen our
    collective power to bring us to the next levels of human evolution
    and rise above the "forces" that could destroy us even as we speak.
    
    So, in a mouthful I guess what I'm trying to express is that we
    shouldn't be looking for fireworks and science fiction as we cross
    whatever border we are going to cross sunday, but that instead we
    need to collectively create from within ourselves all of that stuff
    and more. The beauty that awaits us is incomparable to anything
    that we know now...feel it!
    
    
                     let's work together to make it happen

    REF .116
    
    
    I cant remember where i mentioned it,but i had received information
    from the spirit world that the Earths rotation would be affected
    in some way.Your info seems to verify that.
    
    
    MIKE

    RE: 110
    
    I didn't hear it as a downer myself.  What I did hear is a formal
    pronouncment of the little cynic that lives in the upper left hand
    corner of my brain.  This little guy has been snickering at me on
    and off for much of my life ( he had a field day when I was a kid
    with things like Santa Clause and the green monster under my bed!)
    I also must admit after reading all the notes before 110, it seemed
    to me to be a breath of fresh air and I did get a chuckle out of
    it since I had been reading the replys for nearly 30 min.  In addition,
    I feel that a non-believing opinion has just as valid a place in
    this notes file as a believing one.  I know I enjoy reading about
    each, and often find myself - in my own wishy-washy sort
    of way - agreeing with both.           
    
    Marion  (who_is_not_very_hard_to_please)

Before leaving today I wanted to say something to all of the people in 
DEJAVU who walk the same spirit path and who have come to mean so much to me.

I truly believe this to be a sacred and very special time for humanity.  I 
don't know if what we are doing will be readily apparent to the world, but I 
do feel that we are part of a very important evolutionary process of some sort.

I don't know what (if anything) is going to happen on Sunday on a physical 
level...but I do know that it is very important that I be there to join with 
the universe and pay my respects to the Creator for the gift of life, of time, 
and of nature.  I also feel that this is a call to participate in a larger 
plan or process, the scope of which may well be beyond our comprehension.  

God willing, ... we will meet together in peace on Sunday morning to bid the
Old Age goodbye... I will join with you in spirit.

Take care,
Mary

    To inject a mild note of practicality into this, I suggest strongly
    that wherever you plan to congregate, you might want to check the
    local weather forecast.  Besides the obvious (can you "greet the
    Sun" if it's overcast?) it might make a difference on how one wishes
    to approach the site.
    
    If the weather's going to be particularly bad in your area, remember
    other "power spots" might manifest themselves in various houses
    or worship.
    
    peace and tranquility to you all,
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    	Rumors abound;
    
    	if the length of the year were to change, I suspect that would
    trigger earthquakes.   I also think it would take an outside force
    (like a comet or stray moonlet or something pretty massive) to
    cause such an event.   I really doubt there will be sudden geographical
    changes this weekend.   However, there is one group spreading the
    rumor that colo spgs will be hit by a quake this weekend.   I don't
    believe this at all.   For one thing, the birds and animals are
    not leaving, as they would before a quake.
    	*But*, if I notice the birds leaving sunday morning or something
    equally ominous, I will certainly modify my plans.   
    
    	I suspect that whatever does happen will be subtle, and pretty 
    unnoticable for most people.   Lets all pray that nothing triggers 
    hysteria, the rumors and craziness hopefully will be kept under control....
    
    	Alan.

    
    Just a brief comment on how I'm approaching this weekend.
    
    I see the 16th/17th as sort of a cosmic New Year. Arguelles' theory
    about a "power beam" that Earth is passing through doesn't do much
    for me, but I do firmly believe that a new age will dawn on the
    morning of the 17th.
    
    I intend to (figuratively) bury my old, emotionally-distraught,
    spiritually-bankrupt self in a brief ceremony at sunset on the 16th.
    During the dark hours I will meditate, fast, and, with a friend,
    heal my spirit of the trauma it has suffered in this world.
    
    On the morning of the 17th, at sunrise, I will be reborn as a new
    being of light, purified with burning sage, ready to set my new
    course in my new life.
    
    Intuition tells me to get to a mountain, and I will bid farewell
    to the old and greet the new on Mt. Wattatic in Ashby MA. (I'm hoping
    to avoid the crowds.)
    
    Perry/Tananda
    

    Re .134:
    
    Sage is okay, but I'd suggest Sandalwood in its place.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    I intend to sleep late that morning. If the earth should get jolted
    out of the orbit it has been in for 4 billion years, it'll probably
    wake me.
    
    To those of you who are participating, I wish you the best, and
    I sincerely hope you have a rewarding, significant, and lasting
    experience. And, despite what I said earlier, I am looking forward
    to reading about your experiences.
    
    -bs 

    Its probably a little late to be saying this, but I just discovered
    how to use Notes yesterday, and just spent the last 2 afternoons
    reading all of these.
    
    The information I have been given regarding this weekend which might
    help all of you, is that the denial of who we are, who we have been,
    our suppressed emotions, etc. is beginning to be lifted. This creates
    a wonderful opportunity for healing on an emotional/spiritual level.
    It is suggested that if emotions come up you allow yourself to feel
    them completely and then release then through the breathe, blowing
    out with a "P" sound, or that you send the emotion love and white
    light.  In this way you can integrate all aspects of yourself, and
    learn to love the light and the dark within yourself, which will
    help you also to release judgement about others.  It is also suggested
    that you take crystals with you to your sunrise meditations.  There
    is suppossed to be also an opportunity for physical healing.   
    
    OOOPS - I'm late got to run---you guys are on your own...
    
    Love and Light to ALL
    
    Ann Carpenter  
      
    
    we are each individually being given the
    opportunity to begin to heal ourselves in a profound way.  Our denial
    about who we are, who we have been in the past, our true powers,
    our suppressed feelings will begin to be lifted.  This may cause
    much confusion for many peopnrise meditations. 
    process.  We can breathe out our limiting patterns.  Blow out yourise
    ri
    breathe with a "P" sound, which helps release.  The higher chakras
    may be opened for some.  There is especially good energy for physical
    healing, but each person must ALLOW this, o
    energies to flow through them.  It is suggested that you take your
    crystals with you to your sunrise meditations

    
    
    RE: .137
    
    Thanks for your note.  This is so appropriate to what I've been feeling
    this week.  I've been on the biggest emotional roller-coaster ride
    ever.  Last weekend and early this week I was feeling the most
    centered I've ever felt.  Then Wednesday, the bottom fell out and
    it feels like there is no solid ground under my feet.  And my emotions
    are just bubbling to the surface and I find tears in my eyes almost
    immediately.  I've been really irritated and aggressive because
    I have never felt quite like this before and my equilibrium has
    been thrown off.  Your message opened my eyes to see that the
    strongest hands I could ask for are holding me.
    
    Carole
    

    It seems to me that if some change were to take place we would have
    to wait for some 300 to 400 years to see it.
    
    Have fun on your outtings.

I think in 10 years people will look back on the "harmonic convergence" as they
do Woodstock or "The summer of Love."


Oh well. Whatever makes your duck quack....


John M.

    I am catching some distressing information off OPUS that indicates
    that some groups are saying that a massive cleansing of the earth
    will occur in the near future. Also what I am hearing is that 2/3rds
    of us are gonna be wiped from the face of the planet.
    
    An interesting idea crossed my mind yesterday concerning Atlantis and
    Mu. Perhaps if one puts present industrial nations into the place of
    Atlantis we have a _current_ mythology. Could it be that those who are
    sensitive to the Atlantis stories are really sensitive to our future.
    We are Atlantis. Frightening isn't it?

    RE: .141
    
    What is OPUS?
    
    
    Blame the Atlantis story on Plato.
    
    
    John M.

    Let's hear about your peceptions to the 16'th. I know i perceived
    amazing things that day! In words and images as i sat on top of
    a dam overlooking the wachussetts resevior. I was in a natural alpha state
    brought about through meditation, and spent from 5:30 am to 6:30 am 
    (sunrise for me occurred at 6:15am) in prayer to God and
    meditation.... projecting a strong desire for peace and change.
    
    What were your perceprions? Did you see, either with your mind or
    physical eye, a vision? Did you "hear"???
    
    Samurai Writer 

    I will honestly say that it affected my wife more than me (she isn't
    into occult subjects, though she's very sensitive psychically).
    16th was the calmest day she's had since we returned from our vacation.
    However, sdhe apparently didn't sleep very well last night.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    Has anyone tried reading the Bible lately. Revelations, Daniel,
    Isaiah, Ezekiel, and the Gospels explain what will happen to the
    earth and all it's people. It also tells how to reach spiritual
    freedom and eternal life. Through Christ Jesus and not through
    mediums, crystals, the sun, spirits, and the occult is this
    done. Try it, you might like it.
    
    			You'll be in my prayers!!!!
    
    				In Christ Jesus we'll save the world!!
    
    					db
    

    RE:145
    
    Have you ever studied Judaism and Quantum Physics concurrently,
    have you ever read Aristotle's treatise on the nature of Man and
    Reality, have you ever read Ouspensky's disertations on Gurdjieff's
    teachings? 
    
    Samurai Writer
    

    re .145
    
    >Has anyone tried reading the Bible lately.

    I do, frequently.
    
    > ...             Through Christ Jesus and not through
    >mediums, crystals, the sun, spirits, and the occult is this
    >done. Try it, you might like it.
    
    I've "tried" Christianity, and I _love_ it.  However, my friend,
    I suspect, from your entry, that you believe that those who
    investigate the occult are somehow acting antithetical to Jesus'
    teachings.  This does not happen to be the case.  An analogy: Jesus
    healed the sick; should a study of medicine thus be condemned? 
    I doubt that those of us who worship Jesus are trying to usurp His
    power; that certainly is not my intent.  And for those in this
    Conference who are not Christian (Jews, Pagans, Moslems, Hindus...),
    it is not the occult, but other aspects of their faith, that place
    them on their paths.   
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    re: .147
    
    I, as a Christian, wasn't condemning knowing about the occult, as
    I WAS certainly involved with it and in it. But the Bible says that
    fortune telling, contacting the dead and alot of the occult type
    of stuff is not, to put it mildly, pleasing to God and that it is
    Satan's way of deceiving one into thinking they ( the person) is
    the means of what ever they are doing. If one is a Christian one
    know's Christ told His disciples that all things are possible
    through Him. That means healing, confort, changing the world
    around you, etc. etc..  I see this rainbow group meditation as
    not being down through Christ but on the assumption that it is
    through human means. That goes against Biblical teachings. This
    is my opinion and perception and I don't mean to turn this into
    an evangelical notes. The Holy Spirit inspired me to do it. So
    it is done.
    
    
    			Dennis
    

    
    ans
    I', interested in hearing from others about your group meditations.
    I spent it in Cenral Park in New York City.  It kind of reminded
    one of the 60's, but people were the best behaved I have ever seen
    them in NY.  I experienced being sort of down one minute, followed
    by power surges the next.  In the evening I sort of had about an
    hour where flashes from former lives and from childhood occurred
    one right after the other before I could analyze any of it.  
    
    My body feels a little out of sorts, like it does when my energy
    isn't balanced.  
    
    My understanding of this event, is that it is to begin to usher
    in a new, higher frequency energy, and that we will begin to vibrate
    faster.  I guess, this will take some adjustment before we realize
    what is hitting us, if anything.  I also understand, that if we
    have been expressing one polarity, such as right brain, or rationality
    vs. intuitive, male vs. female ( aspects, not our bodies), that
    along with this shift in enrgy we may begin to swing towards the
    other polarity.  As we understand and are able to express both
    polarities, we are able to integrate and become whole.  
    
    Regarding the past few notes on Jesus Christ vs. other paths; I
    think it is important to acknowledge that we each have our own paths
    which are the best ways for each of us to progress spiritually.
    One person can never know anothers path.  I personally do not believe
    in a judgemental God.  I believe God is within us all.  If our paths
    make us feel more ALIVE and more LOVING and more ACCEPTING, than
    it has to be the right one for us, because God is Love.
    
    Ann Carpenter
    
    
    
    

    Re .148:
    
    >     ..                                But the Bible says that
    >fortune telling, contacting the dead and alot of the occult type
    >of stuff is not, to put it mildly, pleasing to God ...
    
    I presume you're citing primarily Isiah (I don't hacve an OT with
    me, so I have to punt on that) and perhaps Rev. 22:15, where
    "sorcerers" are mentioned along with dogs, whoremongers, murderers,
    idolators, and liars.  Note here that the "fortune tellers" are
    other than kindly looked upon because the people who follow them
    are giving up free will, God's greatest gift (other than His Son);
    and "sorcerers" are actually what we'd call [in the olden sense]
    necromancers; those who defile the dead to do their magic.  Alburtis
    Magnus, who was involved with occult studies and never varied from
    the white (good) path considered the occult like anything else:
    capable of being used for either good or evil; he eventually became
    a Christian saint, and studied occult things throughout his life.
    
    >                     .  .   .                  and that it is
    >Satan's way of deceiving one into thinking they ( the person) is
    >the means of what ever they are doing. If one is a Christian one
    >know's Christ told His disciples that all things are possible
    >through Him. 
    
    But would He deny people trying to heal, or counsel, or comfort?
    Should a doctor not study medicine because Jesus healed?  No, I
    suspect rather that as we have been given abilities and talents,
    we are expected to use them, always being thankful for the gifts
    bestowed upon us by God.
    
    Please don't think that any abilities some of us show necessarily
    means lack of reverence for the Lord.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
    P.S.: As noted before, I can speak only from a Christian perspective;
    I cannot presume to speak for my friends of other faiths. 

    A legalistic view is that (somewhere in Levitics or Deutoronomy) it is
    written that "The secret things are of God but the things that are
    revealed to us are given to us for our benefit." That was given to the
    Jews. I am not a Jew so this semi-prohibition is not poinited at me. 
    
    If JHWH gives any prohibitions, He gives it to his people, not to the
    gentile people in general. Please keep the War God JHWH on his little
    mountain in the Middle East. We don't need Him in Dejavu. B^) 

re: 418.151 


What is JHWH?????

Please explain.

- Howard

    RE: .152
    
    JHWH is known as the "tetragrammation."  It is the way Old Testament
    writers wrote the name of God in order to avoid pronouncing it.  It
    sometimes appears as YHWH, Yaweh, or Jehova.  This is the God who
    appeared to the Israelites on mount Horeab. 

    I think ol' Mikie's gonna get some flames... 

    John M. 

    Re last few:
    
    Well, John, it is really "Tetragrammaton." But I'm the last to throw
    rocks at typos.
    
    On the whole JudeoChristian perspective: it is true that there are
    certain strictures (fuzzed via translation) about some paranormal
    activities; however, it is also clar in the Bible that certain
    paranormal activities are condoned.  When Joseph was sold into slavery
    in Egypt by his brothers, it was his ability to interpret dreams
    and foretell the future by them that made him Pharaoh's right-hand
    man. ( Seven fat years followed by seven lean years, for those withy
    fuzzy memories.)  This is as much futuretelling as a Tarot deck,
    and obviously was an approved activity.  Likewise, Moses performed
    _exactly the same kind_ of magic as Pharaoh's court magicians, just
    Moses' was stronger because he was doing it in the service of the
    Lord.  The Magi, who came to worship the infany Jesus did so because
    of an astrological interpretation of events; clearly, they were
    not condemned for it.
    
    There is plenty in the Bible, for those of the JudeoChristian faiths,
    that illustrates that _in the service of the Lord_, i.e., not for
    self aggrandizement, many paranormal activities are quite all right.
    But in order to see that, one needs not obnly to read, but to study
    the Bible.
    
    Steve Kallis,  Jr.

re: < Note 418.151 by NEXUS::MORGAN "Welcome to the Age of Flowers" >
                              -< Sequester JHWH >-

>    A legalistic view is that (somewhere in Levitics or Deutoronomy) it is
>    written that "The secret things are of God but the things that are
>    revealed to us are given to us for our benefit." That was given to the
>    Jews. I am not a Jew so this semi-prohibition is not poinited at me. 
>    


Let me first say that I am not a theologian yet I do have a moral 
sense about Judeo-Christian ethic.


Question:

Isn't God, God?

God doesn't make a distinction about his children why should you?

He has accepted the fact that they come in all different colors and 
speak and live in different ways.  (sort of like IBM computers:-)

Is not the "Old Testament" the basis for the current Jewish and 
gentile teachings?  Hence, the expression the "New Testament."

>    If JHWH gives any prohibitions, He gives it to his people, not to the
>    gentile people in general. Please keep the War God JHWH on his little
>    mountain in the Middle East. We don't need Him in Dejavu. B^) 

BTW, isn't there a "holy war" going on in Northern Ireland between 
Catholic and Protestant people?  To the best of my understanding these 
two groups of people are often called gentile.

- Howard

    I don't believe that the bible is anything more than a very old
    and interesting book containing some truth, some fiction, some bull.
    I don't believe that Jesus Christ ever intended people to use Him
    the way they have... to dominate and control other people by fear.
    I feel that if Jesus were alive today He would be part of what the
    New Age stands for... tolerance, love, light, and the search for
    enlightenment.  

re:all     Yesterday Lazaris spoke to a turn-away crowd of over 1200 people
at the Cathedral Hill Hotel in San Francisco.  The topic was the Harmonic
Convergence of which there has been so much interest generated lately.
The following is a reproduction of my notes.  The same topic is to be
covered tonight in Los Angeles (and it will be taped...tapes to be available.)
  
    This is a time of coming together in agreement-that our world is ready.
The future is worthy of our participation.  This is a global event that happens
only once.  It is a converging energy of harmony.  The Beginning Begins!-it is 
a nine-day cycle begun by these two days-which lead to a five-year period
that begins a 25-year cycle.  It is also the beginning of a horizonless future.
IT is the beginning of the New Age and a New Spirituality.  Individually, we
all begin at different times.  Though there are those who have already made
the jump, there are more doing so now.  The purpose:  To state that "I am
worthy, my world is worthy of my creation."  Someday, some lifetime, the others
will take off their masks.  Behind the masks, lies hope.  Many are watching
us.  It is a time of leadership where the "cosmos" waits for our lead:  by
our light, our laughter and our joy.  It will cause a ripple not only into our 
future, but also "backwards" into our past, all the way to our supposed
big bang!  From our higher consciousness where we had power without respon-
sibility or accountability (Utopia) we have gone through to our unconscious
mind then to our sub-conscious mind and finally we have reached our
Conscious mind.  So this is the converging of power to the resources of our
conscious mind-they are our beliefs, attitudes, thoughts, and choices 
(from our sub-conscious.)
     The numbers of people gathered is not as important as the magnitude
of the people gathered.  The astrological Grand Trine, the Mayan calendar,
the Aztec prophesies, etc. are all a bit of a stretch [to lead to a conclusion
of this particular date, etc.,] yet it is important.  There *IS* a shift
in vibration now that may NOT show up on some scientific measurement but
it is there.  Atlantis sank--some believe it and some don't.  That's the way
truth is.  It [truth] lies across the Bridge of Belief.  For those that are so 
afraid, that, like cornered animals, that they must lash out and deny, it's best
to leave them their way out...to allow them their hostilities.  Nothing 
will ever prove the existence of Lemuria, either.  Thank goodness.  God/Goddess/
All-THat-IS also lies across the Bridge of Belief.  Scientists will never
capture God/Goddess/All-That-Is conclusively, either.  *It will slip
through our fingers if we allow it to be proved.*  This Harmonic Convergence
will also always lie beyond this "bridge."  It is NOT a critical mass,
but it is a morphogenic mass.  So, what is this?
      It is a time each individual gathers his/her powers and comes together
as a group(s) from many diverse places to harmonically align our powers to
focus on a future we create.
      There are four different types of power:
      1.  The power of choice (to decide and build on them)
      2.  The power of responsibility.
      3.  The power of giving (loving) and knowing that "I do it good enough."
          (this is OUR power, and we give it to others.)
      4.  The power of healing-of self, others, the planet, and the universe.
      There are those who have failed, fallen, have limited scope (they
can't stretch that far or they can't reverse successes.)  A fantastic
Rubik's cube is our reality-there is no solution just turning over one corner-
we need to come up with new answers.  We need to bring our powers into 
harmony.  Align them anyway-focus, like a laser TO CONVERGE ON A FUTURE,
NOT ON A PROBLEM.  Don't wait for others!  Make the decision!  What will 
result will be a New Age, a new world, a new horizon line...a world not
yet conceived.
      1.  It means that our reality creation tools will work more effectively
than ever before (actively, passively, interactively, meditatively, etc.)
YOU WILL ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT (not always what you ask for)-and you will
get it more concisely and sooner than before.  The thoughts we have will
have more import.  Others can resonate with us.  Each cell in our heart
beats at its own rate;  as you touch two cells together, they beat at the
same rate.  This is the law of resonance.
      2.  Our dreams will come true faster.
      3.  On a practical level, our understandings of how the universe works
will change. (*We* will be vindicated in a certain way.)  More and more
we will start living the light, the laughter, the joy and with ease.  More
and more solutions will become available.  Patternless patterns will come
about.  Not by revolution, but by change.
      This is a time to take back our powers from wherever we've given 
them, "rightly" or "wrongly."  That we will lead (from over the globe)
silently and quietly.  Not by razzmatazz but by individual decision.
  
     This one-hour talk ended and Lazaris went on to lead us on an
unusual (for us) meditation and "ceremony".  Unusual in that there
were four different "countdowns" to harmonize with ourselves, others
on the planet, others on different levels and with our universe.
Also unusual was the "outloud" declarations that we made to change our-
selves and to release the "old."  [I have never witnessed either of
these two happenings in my six years with Lazaris.]  The doors to the
hotel room were open and people sat on the floor in the aisleways and 
out the doors.  No doubt casual passersby found this group imposing.
This whole ceremony followed a Sunday workshop entitled: Abundance,
The art of having it all.
  
  
Frederick

      

    Reply to .156; Coffman,
    
    Do you really want me to answer this? If so read on...
    
    
                               
    God is not God. God is a word, specificaly a noun that supposedly
    describes something very illogical and intangable. I think the use
    of this word brings the user up very short of the mark.
    
    Remember that we use language to convey ideas. In this language
    we use words that sometimes hit the nail on the head and at other
    times the nail is missed completely. I suggest that the nail is
    missed completely when the noun God is used.
    
    The use of this noun colors your reality with Juedo-Christian
    overtones. If that is what you want then fine. Otherwise you might want
    to consider what the use of this noun does to your inner processes. 
    
    I guess I object to the use of the noun God when some people really
    mean the war god JHVH or some other god. But if that's what they want
    to do I can live with it for a little while. B^) 

Reply 159; MORGAN     
<    God is not God. God is a word, specificaly a noun that supposedly
    describes something very illogical and intangable. I think the use
    of this word brings the user up very short of the mark.>

	Agreed.    

<    Remember that we use language to convey ideas. In this language
    we use words that sometimes hit the nail on the head and at other
    times the nail is missed completely. I suggest that the nail is
    missed completely when the noun God is used.>

	Agreed.  Using language to convey ideas sometimes works and 
	sometimes does not.
    
<    The use of this noun colors your reality with Juedo-Christian
    overtones. If that is what you want then fine. Otherwise you might want
    to consider what the use of this noun does to your inner processes. >

	My reality and my inner processes are mine.  I accept 
	responsibility for myself as a Soul in living in this 
	physical world.  You seem to have put a *label* on these ideas, 
	does not this "color" your reality?
	    
<    I guess I object to the use of the noun God when some people really
    mean the war god JHVH or some other god. But if that's what they want
    to do I can live with it for a little while. B^) >

	It seems to me that your belief system really doesn't have 
	room for someone in a discussion to use the word God in anyway 
	that does not match up with your meaning for the word/concept God.

	I have a feeling that this discussion has been going on for 
	many a year and that it will continue.  I also believe that 
	both of us will have to live with other people's opinions for 
	quite some time to come.

	Perhaps in your haste to respond to my use of language you 
	forgot to comment on my statement regarding a 'holy war' in 
	Northern Ireland amongst what I understand to be gentile 
	people.  Please comment on this.  I *am* interested in 
	your opinion.  

- Howard

    
    *NOW* you've done it! As every orthodox Jew knows, if something
    has the name of G-d on it, IT CAN'T BE THROWN AWAY without a
    complicated ritual.
    
    The disk pack on DMATE2 which holds DEJAVU must now be preserved
    _ad infinitum_, unless the system manager can find a rabbi to perform
    the appropriate ceremony.
    
    So there!  ;-p
    
    Tananda/Perry
    

    re: last couple
      
    Do you think you can find some other arena in which to carry your
    "holy"  wars?  This does not seem like the proper topic for that
    to me.
      
    Frederick
    

    Reply to .161; Donham,
    
    Ok. I'll just scrape JHVH's name right off the diskpac. Here.. ok.. a
    little bit here.. a little there.. catch that edge now, and rrrrippppp,
    there, the name is pulled off. Now what do I do with it?? B^) 

    Reply to Howard,
    
    What has the sad war in Ireland got to do with the tetragramation
    or August 16th?
    
    I was saying that we should exculde G_D from this topic because
    It dosen't belong in it.

    BTW, please do not assume that everyone has the same understanding of
    G_D as you. Also please do not assume that everyone has a G_D at all.
    Please do not assume that everyone _wants_or_needs_ to have a G_D. Some
    of us get very concerned when others place us in the _wrong_ spiritual
    family. 
    
    Although there are some 1 billion Christians there are still some 4
    billion others that don't subscribe to a belief in a Judeo-Christian
    G_D.
    
    Also please do not include me in the Judeo_Christian family. I am *NOT*
    a follower of the War God Jehovah or His Crowned and Victious Son. I am
    *NOT* a member of that clan (cult?) and have no desire to be.  I am
    *NOT* a child of G_D. If anything I am a child of the Universe, nothing
    more, nothing less. 
    
    Personaly I don't recommend a foray into theology. I do highly recomend
    the study of Mythology and the evolution of such. The study of
    mythology will shed much more light upon theology than most people can
    withstand. Along with mythology I have learned much from psychology,
    especially Jung and the archetypes. Perhaps the study of archetypes
    should be done before the study of mythology.
    
    Looking at the archetypes and the psychological effects of such on
    believers it may be the proper religious business of the followers of
    the various War G_Ds to be converting or killing one another. So the
    sad, sad war in Ireland may scan nicely when one takes into
    consideration the archetypes ascribed to. After all, these people want
    to be like their G_D as closely as possible. The histories of the
    middle east, past and present, confirms that suspision for me. Please
    note that I am not refering to all religious adherents, just the ones
    that like to kill others in their G_Ds name. 
    
                             BACK AT THE RANCH...
    
    Likewise our expectations of the beginning of the Age of Flowers guides
    our experience of that event. If we see the upcomming age in a positive
    light, relinking us to nature, we will experience that. If we expect
    that there will a shaking up and out we will look for that in everday
    experience.
    
    Now as for religious wars, I think that every religious war would be
    stopped dead in it's tracks if all the adherents of different
    theologies/belief systems would think for themselves and question
    authority. But then again some people don't want to think for
    themselves. Perhaps we need to be a little skeptical, but not so
    skeptical that our brains get cemented to our pancreas. B^)

    I prefer to phrase the concept of a being like G_D or JHVH or whatever
    in the manner Richard Bach used in Illusions.
    
    The Infinite Radiant Is
    
    
    this just about fits my feelings to a T.
    
    -Jody
    

    re -1
    Yep, that sounds like where my mind is coming from too.

    RE:164 
    
    
    WOW! FLAME_ON BROTHER! I am in such complete support of your stand
    as it relates to the way alleged beleivers in Christ interpret what
    G_D has asked of them. I fall in between your views and those of
    Judeo-Christianity. I belive there is a G_D, BUT .... I believe
    ... that ... that specific Creative Force which you believe in I
    have chosen to name G_D. And let's face it, if there is an energy
    somewhere in the reality spectrum that is so cohesive as to have
    self-perpetuating conciousness and this Force ha chosen, one of
    many, the nam G_D .... who am I to argue! 
    
    In short Mike, I am also tired of having either far right or far
    left oriented people pushing their belief structures in such a way
    as to implie stupidity upon those who do not agree on every aspect
    as they do. Fanaticism in ANY FORM must be eliminated if this planet
    is to survive.
    
    Samurai Stands In Service

                         WORD GAMES
    
    A couple of thoughts on words we have been tossing around......
    
    1. G_D        Generator Of Dimensions
    2. evil       "live" spelled backward
    3. devil      "lived" spelled backward
    4. HUMan      Heavenly Undivided Man 
    
    
    
    Fighting the Dark
    
    On a separate topic, athought for those who would wish to "save"
    others, or to eliminate anything including seemingly opposing
    belief systems from others.  Is it possible that by "fighting"
    the "dark", we only create dark within ourselves because we are
    not accepting or loving those expressing another viewpoint?
    

    I think we are heading back toward the topic. I was just reading
    tonight about the ancient Gods and Goddesses of Greece. I was lucky
    to just stumble upon a good book that describes the old ones as
    archetypes. 
    
    What is really interesting to me is the dialogue between Apollo and
    Dionysus. Apollo is represented as the God of light (control) and
    Dionysus as the God of darkness (surrender to the animal self). Deep in
    the human psyche both archetypes exist. If one is suppresed it will
    go underground and errupt later at a less convienent time.
    
    Part of the New Age movement is an erruption into general consciousness
    of a relinking Dionysian process. Since most people were raised in an
    Apolloian world they have lost the ability to "channel" this process
    towards a positive ends. Thusly the animal darkness becomes the
    darkness of horror when Dionysian actions errupt into an Apolloian
    lifestyle.
    
    August 16th whether or not it has anything to do with anything else
    is a marker in history that points us toward the other archetypes
    in our lives which we have ignored or suppressed.
    
    Some key items about Dionysus and human interaction are:
    
    (These are metaphorical of course) 
    
    You can't bind (stop) him, the bonds slide right off or he will create
    the illusion that you are binding him and are actually binding
    something else, perhaps your SO to the bedpost. B^) 
    
    Don't fear him. He likes to roar and stomp his feet like a bull.
    Dionysus actually loves courage in the face of danger. You'll get
    on his good side right away if you neither fear him or try to stop
    him.
    
    He likes to party alot. That is his main focus. In his partying he
    will wipe all care from your mind temporarily.
    
    He also relinks back to nature and natural things. Sex, free lifestyles
    and freedom from daily worries are also his horn, uh, ear marks.
    (Sorry, couldn't resist. B^)
    
    Dionysus is only an archetype, one of at least 14 in ancient Greecian
    mythology. But this archetype, like all other archetypes (God/desses)
    live in our subconscious. If we don't deal with him he will byte us on
    the tail when we are not looking. All the archetypes have a
    constructive and a destructive side. Knowing how to deal with them can
    be a real blast (alotta' fun) and also puts you in touch with yourself. 
    
    So August 16th is another form of an archetype. It is a reminder
    that we have to relink back to our mother, our enviroment, hopefully
    on a holistic level. Suppressing this relinking will cause Dionysus
    to resurface at a later date. So party with the New Age now, because
    tomarrow the flowers may wilt. B^)

    I saw an entry on OPUS that came out of St. Louis that referenced
    and article in one of their papers. In this article a Mayan scholar
    says that even by Jose Arguelle's own mathamatics the Mayan callendar
    doesn't run down till 2012. Is this true? Is Jose a trickster?

re: .170
    Every article I read on the convergence quoted Arguelles as saying the
Mayan calander ends in 2012. What he termed the Harmonic Convergence
occured on the 16 and 17th. That began a 9 day transition which ended
today with the rising of the new moon. He then stated there would be a
five year period of intense, accelerated change ending in 1992 (which I
believe is the end of the Aztec calander). Then there would be a 20 year
period of less intense change, completing the phase transition and ending
the Mayan calander.
    Although with the convergence we have entered the new age, one of the
reasons Arguelles believed the next 25 years would be critical, is
because he refers to this as the last 25 years of the ninth hell in the
Mayan calender. 
    He may still be a "trickster".
Jay

    
    I think I'm am beginning to develop a unified field theory, for
    the fields of economics, theology, and psychic-ology.
    
    
    They all involve the art of making predictions in one of two forms
    
    	(a) that can't be tested, because they are to vague, or
    
    	(b) that can be explained away when nothing detectable happens
            (or worse, when the opposite to what was predicted happens).
    
    
    I think I would describe this whole Aug 16/17 thing as the largest
    non-event I have ever seen in a notes file.  I hope the lesson is
    learnt for the next time some extinct cultures artificial calendar
    turns to a new page!
          
    
    /Bevin
    
    

Boy, it's too bad not everyone noticed what happened on the 16th and what is
*still* happening.  My whole life has changed and is continuing to change
at an accelerated pace.  Big karma surfacing.  What is a non-event for some
people was the biggest event of my life.

		Dave

"Sometimes you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look
at it right"

    RE. 418.173
    
    Hi Dave....I wanted to tell you how nice it was to meet you at Joya's
    house on the 16th.  My life has changed for the better since that
    day also.  My life has not been an easy one, but leading up to and
    since the 16th, things have just gotten better.  Also, I don't feel
    so alone anymore.  Like my favorite John Lennon song says.....
    "you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm *not* the only one".  For those
    of us who dream of a better world, the 16th was hardly a "non-event".
    
    Peace to you all,
    
    Marie
    

    My entire life changed on the 16th.  I feel as if I've wakened from
    a long coma... so much has changed.  Perhaps it is our space/time
    in life that gives us our perspective on where we are and on what
    is happening.  Perhaps our expectations are a reflection of where
    we are coming from.  All real change comes from within... those
    who are internally tuned to the intuitive life forces or to the
    myoho may be more sensitive to whats happening around them on a
    spiritual level.  The 16th marked the most important change in my
    life.

    
    And it just keeps getting better and better.....
    
    Talk about creating one's own reality - I finally got the courage
    to go interview for this job I've wanted for a long time - and 10
    minutes into the interview, I got the job!
    
    There are a lot of other positive changes in my life since the 
    16th as well, but this one was the best....so far.
    
    Cindy (who_will_be_changing_nodes_very_soon)
    

    
    
    A new reply to this note after 2 years!.....More on earthquakes...
    
    Re: .85  Marcia
    
    You mentioned in your reply regarding the San Andreas Fault "It's
    a _sliding_ fault, and what southern California is really doing
    is heading north, for Alaska"
    
    and Re: .85 Topher
    
    You mentioned in your reply regarding California - "California won't
    "fall" into the ocean because the principle motion of the faults
    which are causing all that tectonic activity is mostly pushing 
    California northward with some push into the land.  Its not moving
    up/down particularly right now (some local up down movement as the
    ground "folds" under the pressure)."

    
    After the October 17th earthquake in San Francisco, I heard some
    reports of geologists being really surprised that the movement of
    this quake *was* up/down rather than sliding north/south the way
    they usually do.  Any comments or thoughts on this?
    
    Carole

RE: .177 (Carole)
    
    You already quoted the relevant statement from .86, though perhaps my
    careless typing didn't make that clear enough:
    
    	"(some local up down movement [may occur] as the ground "folds"
    	 under the pressure)."
    
    I wasn't being more knowledgable than the geologists who were surprised
    by the vertical fault movement.  Rather I was admitting limitations of
    simple models.  That the overall movement is horizontal means that
    it is virtually impossible for the whole plate to move vertically
    and "sink" California.  Thinking about it I realized, however, that
    while there seems no particular reason for it to happen (hence the
    geologists surprise) it is not totally out of order for there to be
    local vertical movement.  San Fransisco might sink, Los Angelos might
    sink, but California, or even Southern or Northern California will not.
    
    So, nothing has changed in this regard...
    
    						Topher

    
    
    RE: .178 
    
    Thanks for the reply Topher.  Not that I believe California is
    going to sink....I just thought it was interesting that the next
    big quake in California moved in a way that is not its normal
    movement.  I happened to be re-reading this note and noticed the
    discussion about plate movement.
    
    Carole

    Well, here it is 1992 and we have almost completed the last five years
    of acceleration and things will begin to slow down now.  Looking back
    now, how do you feel about what has happened?  Some of the things that
    come to mind for me is the fall of communism in Europe, Desert Storm,
    an increase in the consciousness of taking care of our environment and
    seeing people actually working to reverse some of the damage done, the
    US finally becoming a part of the Earth Summit (to be held in Rio de
    Janiero) this summer..... etc.
    
    I am about 3/4 of the way through Jose Arguelles book 'Surfers of the
    Zuvuya'.  He wrote this after the Harmonic Convergence after his son
    was killed in a car accident (which was only a month after the
    convergence).  He writes about becoming in-tuned to his dimensional
    double  - Uncle Joe Zuvyua (pronouced ZOO-vu-ya).  Uncle Joe tells him
    about the plans the Maya have for Earth, about the history of Earth and
    the role the Maya have played in shaping that history.  Its an
    interesting book, if I took it literally it would be rather silly - I
    have really had to read between the lines and think about what message
    he is trying to get across and not get caught up in the style of how it
    is written.  I am reading it to my 8 & 12 year old boys at bedtime, the
    8 year old always falls asleep (its a little to abstract for him), but
    my 12 year old things it 'awesome'.  He has begun to notice things like
    synchronicity and is even more tuned in to what is happening to Earth.
    
    Anybody else out there read this book yet or have any comments about
    the last five years....?
    
    Yvonne 

    re: .180 (Yvonne)
    
         Yeah, as far as the last five years are concerned, I'd say
    "Awesome!" too!  :-)
    
    Frederick
    

    Hi Yvonne,
    
    I've read the book and enjoyed it, but then I feel particularly drawn
    to the Mayan culture.  I think I passed it on to my son who is away at
    college.
    
    My life has changed drastically in the last five years and I can
    pinpoint the beginnings of these major changes (most certainly for the
    better) to the weekend of the Harmonic Convergence.  It has been an
    'accelerated' growth period for me.
    
    Ro
    

    
    My life has changed dramatically in the past 5 years from around the 
    time of the convergence.
    
    I learnt TM the following week, I ended a dead relationship the
    following month and I finally said there is more to life than work. I
    stopped working long days and planned my time better. I learnt to relax
    and found again the old me that had gone away for a few years. 
    
    I was back to the laid-back person who had lots of interests, took care of
    her friends and made time just to sit in the sun. I started to read all
    sorts of books - The Awakening Earth (?) by Peter Russell had a great
    impact on me. I was back to being a biologist (my first career) in the
    way I thought about the earth and humanity - the whole Gaia concept. I
    became greener, I gave up eating meat and cut down on my drinking. 
    
    I looked at New Age interests and spent many a happy day at Glastonbury
    and Avebury where I found peace and beauty. Oh and I finally got my act
    together with the basenoter after many years of friendship and married
    him :-) The five year period has concluded with the birth of our first
    child: Rebecca Kate. 
    
    I just hope I have the energy to find the next 5 years as rewarding.
    
                              seals
    

    Seals,
    
    Thanks for sharing your experience - wow, that's wonderful!!!
    
    My life too has changed dramatically since the Harmonic Convergence. 
    The events that have happened to me since that time I feel have led me
    back to my purpose for being here and finding my spiritual partner to
    walk the path with me.
    
    Interestingly, I'm currently reading a book by Grace & Ivan Cooke
    entitled The Light in Britain: A vision of the ancient spiritual
    centres of Britain where they relate the 'messages' she received at
    places such as Avesbury and Silbury that you mentioned.  Would love to
    hear more about your experiences there, if you care to share.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Ro
    

    
    Avebury (note spelling) is just a wonderful place. It's best to visit
    in winter or very early or late in the day in summer to avoid the
    crowds. You can feel the peace around you.
    
    I have not received any messages or the like during my visits - simply
    the whole of the Avebury area (including Silbury Hill and the Kennet
    Long Barrow) plus Glastonbury are great places to wind down and forget
    daily life.
    
    The only strange thing that has happened was when a pair of dowsing
    rods came together when I crossed the stone circle at Avebury. But then
    we have noticed this on ley-lines and the like before.
    
                      seals
    

    
    Seals,
    
    That's wonderful!  Another DEJAVU wedding and baby!  Congratulations!
    
    Cindy

    
    Thanks
    
    Some folks have asked when we are having Rebecca christened. These are
    usually the same folks who were rude enough to ask why didn't we get
    married in church. 
    
    Our reply is: "She is not going to be christened, she went to Avebury 
    and sat in the stone circle at 2.5 weeks." :-) :-) :-)
    
    Of course living only 20 miles from Avebury means that we can all visit
    the circle as often as we want.
    
                 seals
    

    You're so lucky... :-)