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Conference hydra::dejavu

Title:Psychic Phenomena
Notice:Please read note 1.0-1.* before writing
Moderator:JARETH::PAINTER
Created:Wed Jan 22 1986
Last Modified:Tue May 27 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2143
Total number of notes:41773

364.0. "Ramtha: "As it were indeed"" by GUMDRP::SANTELLA () Tue May 12 1987 16:59

     Lately I ran into some audio cassettes of someone 
called JZ Knight who is the medium for a spirit being by
the name of "Ramtha".  Does anyone have any information 
regarding this path/religion/whatever?

                                       Steve
    
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364.1First check what's already been written.PBSVAX::COOPERTopher CooperTue May 12 1987 20:2220
    Ramtha and Knight have been discussed a number of times in this
    conference.  If you say at the NOTES prompt:
    
    		SEARCH "Ramtha"
    
    The first note containing that string will appear.  You can then
    say simply
    
    		SEARCH
    
    repeatedly to step to each note containing mention of Ramtha in
    turn.  The notes you will find are:
    
    	105.10, 121.61, 154.16, 238.0, 287.0,.4,.5,.6,.7,.8, 288.7,.8,.9,
    	316.30,.60 and, of course 364.0,.1
    
    You could also try searching for Knight or JZ or J.Z. to see if
    you come up with any more.
    
    				Topher
364.3Another view on RamthaDECWET::MITCHELLCRTs: Live long and phosphor!Fri Nov 06 1987 20:1248
    This letter appeared in Monday's edition of the _Seattle Times_ in
    response to an article on Ramtha.  (It so happens I know the author of
    the letter). 


Dear Editor:

Objective journalism has always been an oxymoron, but only a moron would
find any journalistic sense in Elizabeth Rhodes' article about J.Z. Knight,
aka Ramtha.  Let's be frank, folks: J.Z. Knight is the biggest fake since
Uri Geller, and then some.  Channelers are a dime a dozen in Seattle; check
the last page of _The Weekly_.  J.Z. has just had some good marketing advice.
 Yes, I have seen her video tapes (two or three times the price of any others).
 She's not only an actress, but a bad actress.  She meditates for a few
minutes, then stretches, walks with stiff legs, and speaks in a deeper voice
touched with an English accent (gosh! now we know she's not J.Z. anymore!).
 Rhodes describes this as "a dazzle of strangled syntax."  Oh sure.  And
then she speaks to the crowd with empty statements telling you how wonderful
you look, how you must love yourself, things your best friend could tell
you for the price of a beer.  J.Z. charges only 400 dollars.  With eyes
transfixed, her husband (her soulmate!), always present, watches J.Z. act,
thinking of the next horse they can buy with the money they're raking in.
 And how convenient that the J.Z. Knight newsletter provides the schedule
of the latest Ramtha tour as well as a list of video tape prices.  I guess
Ramtha must offer financial advice, too.  Maybe old Ramtha was not only
a warrior, but respected banker in Atlantis.  Gosh, maybe I should check
my history books.  Rhodes writes, "It's a time [Atlantis] about which
anthropologists know very little."  Why is that, Elizabeth?  _The Seattle
Times_ might do well to review their articles for content.

Rhodes is right about one thing.  J.Z.'s audience is composed mostly of
white, middle-class women.  However, because I have known some of the Ramtha
clan, let me add a few more details.  They are also divorced or unhappy
or without direction, looking for something that's going to provide an easy
answer.  For the most part, they are also uneducated.  In a word, they are
vulnerable.  And that's the key to J.Z's success: she preys on vulnerable
people, telling them exactly what they want to hear, and charging outrageous
prices.  Will Ramtha ever preach for free, for instance, to the poor Spanish
sections of Brooklyn or to the homeless of Seattle?  I doubt it.  They'd
laugh her off the stage.

Save your money, folks.  Talk to your best friend.  You'll get the same
advice.  You won't have to watch an embarrassing acting job.  And you'll
save about 400 bucks.

Respectfully Yours,

Robert L. Shuster, Seattle
364.4Put Her Out to PastureBARAKA::BLAZEKA new moon, a warm sun...Sat Nov 14 1987 21:245
    In my opinion, J.Z. Knight is a bad actress and greedy humanoid,
    INDEED!
    
    					Carla
    
364.5Well, J.Z. wasn't too bad this time.PUZZLE::GUEST_TMPHOME, in spite of my ego!Wed Nov 18 1987 04:5420
    I saw her on "People are Talking" (local San Francisco show, I think)
    this morning (Tuesday.)  They had her on with some *fear-monger*
    who just wrote a book called "Out on a Broken Limb" (ha-ha, isn't
    that funny?---enter sarcastic grin.)  The man is a Christian and
    expressed a great deal of narrow-minded views against Ramtha
    (though he admitted he had never watched her on tape--he's only
    read J.Z.'s book.)  To be honest, though I don't care for Ramtha
    too much (I don't feel he is overly *enlightened,*) and I have a
    few problems with J.Z., I will say that she handled herself very
    well in my view on this show.  The man managed to extrude a few
    boos (Is this the opposite of oobs, Mary?) from the audience while
    J.Z. managed to get some polite applause.
      
    She answered some difficult accusations rather calmly and with aplomb.
    I will repeat, I thought she "done good!"  (Had I been in her shoes,
    I feel that I might have reacted with a great deal more anger than
    she seemed to exhibit.)
      
    Frederick